THe demise of america what is your opinion on our possible first female president. kingyoto
It doesn't matter who you vote for.
Either way you lose.
Politicians could give a **** about the people..
Hilary Clinton...
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[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="SunofVich"]NO.that is also a way she wants to control us is with guns. your right though if she bans guns only criminals will have have guns. by banning guns your not stoping crime. criminals will get guns regardless of the laws becuase they are CRIMINALS. all it does is keeps the good old american from protecting his home with a reliable rifle. its hard to say how hilary will control us because rather than say control she says how she will restrict things ex. guns and video games. Why do you think she wants to completely ban guns now? she doesn't say ban guns becuase it creates an uproar via the bill of rights but gun control is her bringing us one step closer to taking our amenment rights to bare weapons.
She will restrict video games. (She said in one of her speeches that video games need to be treated like we treat our alcohol and tabacco. BS.)
She will try to illegalize our right to bare arms. (If you take the guns away from the people then only the government and criminals will have guns.)
I'm hoping for Obama. I really dont care if he has a Shaky history, Bush did. And I dont care that he has a middle eastern sounding name. IT DOES NOT MAKE HIM A TERRORIST.
yoshi-lnex
[QUOTE="kingyoto"]THe demise of america what is your opinion on our possible first female president. JohnWinger
It doesn't matter who you vote for.
Either way you lose.
Politicians could give a **** about the people..
true politictions couldn't care less about us they just want more power republican and democrat.
[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="SunofVich"]NO.that is also a way she wants to control us is with guns. your right though if she bans guns only criminals will have have guns. by banning guns your not stoping crime. criminals will get guns regardless of the laws becuase they are CRIMINALS. all it does is keeps the good old american from protecting his home with a reliable rifle. its hard to say how hilary will control us because rather than say control she says how she will restrict things ex. guns and video games. Why do you think she wants to completely ban guns now? she doesn't say ban guns becuase it creates an uproar via the bill of rights but gun control is her bringing us one step closer to taking our amenment rights to bare weapons. There needs to be a form of control
She will restrict video games. (She said in one of her speeches that video games need to be treated like we treat our alcohol and tabacco. BS.)
She will try to illegalize our right to bare arms. (If you take the guns away from the people then only the government and criminals will have guns.)
I'm hoping for Obama. I really dont care if he has a Shaky history, Bush did. And I dont care that he has a middle eastern sounding name. IT DOES NOT MAKE HIM A TERRORIST.
kingyoto
She's a decent polititionyoshi-lnexDecent politician? Isn't that an oxy-moron?
[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]She's a decent polititionEtheral_FilcherDecent politician? Isn't that an oxy-moron? yes.....it works in this case though...
[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="SunofVich"]NO.that is also a way she wants to control us is with guns. your right though if she bans guns only criminals will have have guns. by banning guns your not stoping crime. criminals will get guns regardless of the laws becuase they are CRIMINALS. all it does is keeps the good old american from protecting his home with a reliable rifle. its hard to say how hilary will control us because rather than say control she says how she will restrict things ex. guns and video games. Why do you think she wants to completely ban guns now? she doesn't say ban guns becuase it creates an uproar via the bill of rights but gun control is her bringing us one step closer to taking our amenment rights to bare weapons. There needs to be a form of control i disagree i think the goverment has too much control over our lives already.. on a side note how old are you i am 15 so remember your not dealing wit a politician here your dealin wit a punk kid. im probably not the best sutied person to debate my views on behalf of the republican party...
She will restrict video games. (She said in one of her speeches that video games need to be treated like we treat our alcohol and tabacco. BS.)
She will try to illegalize our right to bare arms. (If you take the guns away from the people then only the government and criminals will have guns.)
I'm hoping for Obama. I really dont care if he has a Shaky history, Bush did. And I dont care that he has a middle eastern sounding name. IT DOES NOT MAKE HIM A TERRORIST.
yoshi-lnex
[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="SunofVich"]NO.that is also a way she wants to control us is with guns. your right though if she bans guns only criminals will have have guns. by banning guns your not stoping crime. criminals will get guns regardless of the laws becuase they are CRIMINALS. all it does is keeps the good old american from protecting his home with a reliable rifle. its hard to say how hilary will control us because rather than say control she says how she will restrict things ex. guns and video games. Why do you think she wants to completely ban guns now? she doesn't say ban guns becuase it creates an uproar via the bill of rights but gun control is her bringing us one step closer to taking our amenment rights to bare weapons. There needs to be a form of control i disagree i think the goverment has too much control over our lives already.. on a side note how old are you i am 15 so remember your not dealing wit a politician here your dealin wit a punk kid. im probably not the best sutied person to debate my views on behalf of the republican party... That's all fine.
She will restrict video games. (She said in one of her speeches that video games need to be treated like we treat our alcohol and tabacco. BS.)
She will try to illegalize our right to bare arms. (If you take the guns away from the people then only the government and criminals will have guns.)
I'm hoping for Obama. I really dont care if he has a Shaky history, Bush did. And I dont care that he has a middle eastern sounding name. IT DOES NOT MAKE HIM A TERRORIST.
kingyoto
I just don't want people able to buy ak-47s and other assault weapons, which is legal right now btw. A shotgun or handgun is all the protection you'd need.....
that is also a way she wants to control us is with guns. your right though if she bans guns only criminals will have have guns. by banning guns your not stoping crime. criminals will get guns regardless of the laws becuase they are CRIMINALS. all it does is keeps the good old american from protecting his home with a reliable rifle. its hard to say how hilary will control us because rather than say control she says how she will restrict things ex. guns and video games. Why do you think she wants to completely ban guns now? she doesn't say ban guns becuase it creates an uproar via the bill of rights but gun control is her bringing us one step closer to taking our amenment rights to bare weapons. There needs to be a form of control i disagree i think the goverment has too much control over our lives already.. on a side note how old are you i am 15 so remember your not dealing wit a politician here your dealin wit a punk kid. im probably not the best sutied person to debate my views on behalf of the republican party... That's all fine.[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="SunofVich"]NO.
She will restrict video games. (She said in one of her speeches that video games need to be treated like we treat our alcohol and tabacco. BS.)
She will try to illegalize our right to bare arms. (If you take the guns away from the people then only the government and criminals will have guns.)
I'm hoping for Obama. I really dont care if he has a Shaky history, Bush did. And I dont care that he has a middle eastern sounding name. IT DOES NOT MAKE HIM A TERRORIST.
yoshi-lnex
I just don't want people able to buy ak-47s and other assault weapons, which is legal right now btw. A shotgun or handgun is all the protection you'd need.....
well... i could maybe be on board wit that but more people die every year from car accidents than from being shot... so why don't they have stricter driving laws sure they have strict laws but lots of people die in car accidents so why not just ban them period... maybe we just only let the very rich drive cars then there will be less accidents.[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]that is also a way she wants to control us is with guns. your right though if she bans guns only criminals will have have guns. by banning guns your not stoping crime. criminals will get guns regardless of the laws becuase they are CRIMINALS. all it does is keeps the good old american from protecting his home with a reliable rifle. its hard to say how hilary will control us because rather than say control she says how she will restrict things ex. guns and video games. Why do you think she wants to completely ban guns now? she doesn't say ban guns becuase it creates an uproar via the bill of rights but gun control is her bringing us one step closer to taking our amenment rights to bare weapons. There needs to be a form of control i disagree i think the goverment has too much control over our lives already.. on a side note how old are you i am 15 so remember your not dealing wit a politician here your dealin wit a punk kid. im probably not the best sutied person to debate my views on behalf of the republican party... That's all fine.[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="SunofVich"]NO.
She will restrict video games. (She said in one of her speeches that video games need to be treated like we treat our alcohol and tabacco. BS.)
She will try to illegalize our right to bare arms. (If you take the guns away from the people then only the government and criminals will have guns.)
I'm hoping for Obama. I really dont care if he has a Shaky history, Bush did. And I dont care that he has a middle eastern sounding name. IT DOES NOT MAKE HIM A TERRORIST.
kingyoto
I just don't want people able to buy ak-47s and other assault weapons, which is legal right now btw. A shotgun or handgun is all the protection you'd need.....
well... i could maybe be on board wit that but more people die every year from car accidents than from being shot... so why don't they have stricter driving laws sure they have strict laws but lots of people die in car accidents so why not just ban them period... maybe we just only let the very rich drive cars then there will be less accidents. that is the attitude of gun actovists switching out guns with cars. you see there are so many hypocritic demorcats out there all these rich people who body gaurds carring guns but they don't think the average joe should have a gun but they are so damn important that there body gaurd needs to carry a gun that is serious bull. clinton wants to make the laws strictior and strictor till the average joe isn't alowed to have a gun but her body guards of course have guns because she is SO important.[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]that is also a way she wants to control us is with guns. your right though if she bans guns only criminals will have have guns. by banning guns your not stoping crime. criminals will get guns regardless of the laws becuase they are CRIMINALS. all it does is keeps the good old american from protecting his home with a reliable rifle. its hard to say how hilary will control us because rather than say control she says how she will restrict things ex. guns and video games. Why do you think she wants to completely ban guns now? she doesn't say ban guns becuase it creates an uproar via the bill of rights but gun control is her bringing us one step closer to taking our amenment rights to bare weapons. There needs to be a form of control i disagree i think the goverment has too much control over our lives already.. on a side note how old are you i am 15 so remember your not dealing wit a politician here your dealin wit a punk kid. im probably not the best sutied person to debate my views on behalf of the republican party... That's all fine.[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="SunofVich"]NO.
She will restrict video games. (She said in one of her speeches that video games need to be treated like we treat our alcohol and tabacco. BS.)
She will try to illegalize our right to bare arms. (If you take the guns away from the people then only the government and criminals will have guns.)
I'm hoping for Obama. I really dont care if he has a Shaky history, Bush did. And I dont care that he has a middle eastern sounding name. IT DOES NOT MAKE HIM A TERRORIST.
kingyoto
I just don't want people able to buy ak-47s and other assault weapons, which is legal right now btw. A shotgun or handgun is all the protection you'd need.....
well... i could maybe be on board wit that but more people die every year from car accidents than from being shot... so why don't they have stricter driving laws sure they have strict laws but lots of people die in car accidents so why not just ban them period... maybe we just only let the very rich drive cars then there will be less accidents. that is the attitude of gun actovists switching out guns with cars. you see there are so many hypocritic demorcats out there all these rich people who body gaurds carring guns but they don't think the average joe should have a gun but they are so damn important that there body gaurd needs to carry a gun that is serious bull. clinton wants to make the laws strictior and strictor till the average joe isn't alowed to have a gun but her body guards of course have guns because she is SO important. i could debate this all night.
I wouldn't mind seeing a democrat as president, just not Hillary. She's too polarizing a figure and she's too dependent on focus groups to guide her every action.sonicaretrue the media made hilary clinton. i am republican so i disagree with demoratic views but hilary is for sure the worst posssible demoract to get elected.
[QUOTE="Shalashaska77"]The last thing we need is more ESRB restrictions. They are already riduculously biased.Flaming_Ape
That's another reason I forgot to explain in my debates in this thread...we can't be having all these restrictions on entertainment and that includes video games.
Agreed
I personally don't see any reason why people should hate her. I think that all of the spite comes from Conservatives being afraid of Hillary Clinton, and how powerful she could be.
She only wants greater esrb restrictions on games which is really needed right now becouse in many states any 9 year old can buy and m rated game, which could be damaging, her restrictions would simply make it so you have to be at least 17 to buy an m rated games......[QUOTE="kingyoto"]One she will try and restrict violent video games two she will pull out the troops and ruin everything that the great soldiers have fought so hard to achieve three she will destroy america by probably trying to disarm our nulear weapons progam and lastly she will stop oil drilling in Alaska and uor gas prices will go through the roof. sorry fellow teen drivers.yoshi-lnex
We need to pull out of Iraq at this point, we've installed a goverment, and the iraq army/police force is strong, why are we still there building billion dollar facilitys?
Where are you getting the idea that would would disarm our nuclear weapons program? Are you just making things up now? She hasn't said anything to this extent, and in reality we need to continue to disarm or nuclear arms, we can already kill every human on the planet with the weapons we have now, why do we need more? It just creates the greater possibility of these weapons/plans being stolen or misused.
The oil in alaska isn't used to produce gas, it's used to produce plastics, and almost all of it is shipped overseas anyways, she does want to push alternative fuels and fuel efficientcy plans to increase what we get from the gas we already have, so electing her would be good for "teen driveres".
Although I disagree with your statements about Iraq, I do agree that she won't(And more importantly, CAN'T.) do much against games. Anti-gaming laws have been shot down numerous times before, no matter who supported them. Noone can get rid of video games. It's a multibillion dollar industry with millions of happy consumers and no politician can ever change any of that. The industry has gotten far too large to stop. You'd have an easier time banning all kinds of porn.What do you think she would do exactly? If she becomes president of the United States, she'll do all kinds of bad stuff, including pushing high taxes, wanting to put total control over what people do in their lives, and like I said before, she always thinks she's doing what's "best" for people when it's not true, instead she's going to use what she says as her advantage (in a bad way). If she becomes president, you'll see clearly what she does bad. Taxes need to be raised at this point, after Bush's vendetta against the middle east, we've become much further in debt, and that needs to be fixed, unfortunatally that means taxes, and I really do respect a politition who does what they know is right even if people don't like what they do.[QUOTE="Flaming_Ape"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="Flaming_Ape"]Hilary Clinton is a total b**** in my opinion...she thinks she's doing what's "best" for people (which isn't true), plus once she's in power she thinks she has complete control over everybody's lives, in which I'll hate...I'm really begging for her not to become the next U.S. president, and I'm serious when I say that too.yoshi-lnex
You're going to have to be less vague than "she's going to take control of peoples lives" traditionally when democrats are in power they do the exact opposite and remove social restrictions upon individuals, so I need more than saying "she'll take advantage of her position"
Spoken like a true Democrat. Tax and spend. I am not dissing you or your political beliefs. I do, however disagree with your above stated pointShe's actually a very good politician. You all just hate her because she doesn't like violent video games, but in the larger picture, that issue isn't worth squat. She is a strong-minded person who has actually come to her political views of her own accord, and not from what her parents believed. In fact, she was raised conservative, and used to be a Republican. Hillary Clinton is hardly the "most liberal" Democrat, which seems to be a charge the GOP makes of every presidential candidate the Democrats raise.People are afraid of Hilary because she thinks she can have total control over everybody's lives once she's in power....
I personally don't see any reason why people should hate her. I think that all of the spite comes from Conservatives being afraid of Hillary Clinton, and how powerful she could be.swamprat_basic
At this point, I think anybody is better than Bush except another republican. Plus I'm already 18 so the game resrictions don't reallt apply to me anyway.
One Clinton in office was bad enough enough and now your talkin about a female one, forget about it...schoolisnotkoolAre you kidding me? Bill Clinton was really good in his first term... But to his last year he wasn't. Don't say he was bad. He did such good things for the country it's not even funny to say he was bad and just focus of the bad thing he did. Hilary will mess up gamer's lives, and everyone elses lives. I don't want that. I wanna live in a FREE country.
[QUOTE="schoolisnotkool"]One Clinton in office was bad enough enough and now your talkin about a female one, forget about it...WestSideAznAre you kidding me? Bill Clinton was really good in his first term... But to his last year he wasn't. Don't say he was bad.He did such good things for the country it's not even funny to say he was bad and just focus of the bad thing he did. Hilary will mess up gamer's lives, and everyone elses lives. I don't want that. I wanna live in a FREE country. Hillary is an old school chameleon of a politician who also promises good things but does not follow through. And I would never vote for her. To me, she is just riding on the so called "legacy" of her husband. She plays partisan politics, and given the public's attitude toward Bush, now is the perfect time for her to strike. People can blow Bill Clinton's whatsit all day long- he was just an average president, nothing to write home about. He gets credit for an economy he did not create. Plus if he would have kept his nose cleaner and not got involved in real estate scandals, adultry, and pergery, maybe he could have gotten more done. His cabinet contained the most criminals in the history of the United States. Clinton was one of the weakest Presidents in history as far as foreign policy and national defense. Basically we are suffering through his mistakes now. If it were not for Ronald Regan appointing Allen Greenspan as chairman of the fed many years ago,Clinton surely would have been a disaster of a president.Clinton also fought his share of senseless wars. But nobody wants to remember that.
[QUOTE="schoolisnotkool"]One Clinton in office was bad enough enough and now your talkin about a female one, forget about it...WestSideAznAre you kidding me? Bill Clinton was really good in his first term... But to his last year he wasn't. Don't say he was bad. He did such good things for the country it's not even funny to say he was bad and just focus of the bad thing he did. Hilary will mess up gamer's lives, and everyone elses lives. I don't want that. I wanna live in a FREE country. Bill clinton wasn't the worst president we ever had but regardless of political views not only did he have an afair(not that i can blame him hilary is a bigger man than him in more ways than one) then he lied about it to the American people pretty pathetic.
[QUOTE="WestSideAzn"][QUOTE="schoolisnotkool"]One Clinton in office was bad enough enough and now your talkin about a female one, forget about it...LukeAF24Are you kidding me? Bill Clinton was really good in his first term... But to his last year he wasn't. Don't say he was bad.He did such good things for the country it's not even funny to say he was bad and just focus of the bad thing he did. Hilary will mess up gamer's lives, and everyone elses lives. I don't want that. I wanna live in a FREE country. Hillary is an old school chameleon of a politician who also promises good things but does not follow through. And I would never vote for her. To me, she is just riding on the so called "legacy" of her husband. She plays partisan politics, and given the public's attitude toward Bush, now is the perfect time for her to strike. People can blow Bill Clinton's whatsit all day long- he was just an average president, nothing to write home about. He gets credit for an economy he did not create. Plus if he would have kept his nose cleaner and not got involved in real estate scandals, adultry, and pergery, maybe he could have gotten more done. His cabinet contained the most criminals in the history of the United States. Clinton was one of the weakest Presidents in history as far as foreign policy and national defense. Basically we are suffering through his mistakes now. If it were not for Ronald Regan appointing Allen Greenspan as chairman of the fed many years ago,Clinton surely would have been a disaster of a president.Clinton also fought his share of senseless wars. But nobody wants to remember that. just to say you are the most well informed person on this forum and you make very valid points.
[QUOTE="LukeAF24"][QUOTE="WestSideAzn"][QUOTE="schoolisnotkool"]One Clinton in office was bad enough enough and now your talkin about a female one, forget about it...kingyotoAre you kidding me? Bill Clinton was really good in his first term... But to his last year he wasn't. Don't say he was bad.He did such good things for the country it's not even funny to say he was bad and just focus of the bad thing he did. Hilary will mess up gamer's lives, and everyone elses lives. I don't want that. I wanna live in a FREE country. Hillary is an old school chameleon of a politician who also promises good things but does not follow through. And I would never vote for her. To me, she is just riding on the so called "legacy" of her husband. She plays partisan politics, and given the public's attitude toward Bush, now is the perfect time for her to strike. People can blow Bill Clinton's whatsit all day long- he was just an average president, nothing to write home about. He gets credit for an economy he did not create. Plus if he would have kept his nose cleaner and not got involved in real estate scandals, adultry, and pergery, maybe he could have gotten more done. His cabinet contained the most criminals in the history of the United States. Clinton was one of the weakest Presidents in history as far as foreign policy and national defense. Basically we are suffering through his mistakes now. If it were not for Ronald Regan appointing Allen Greenspan as chairman of the fed many years ago,Clinton surely would have been a disaster of a president.Clinton also fought his share of senseless wars. But nobody wants to remember that. just to say you are the most well informed person on this forum and you make very valid points. you make a good point too kingyoto
[QUOTE="swamprat_basic"]She's actually a very good politician. You all just hate her because she doesn't like violent video games, but in the larger picture, that issue isn't worth squat. She is a strong-minded person who has actually come to her political views of her own accord, and not from what her parents believed. In fact, she was raised conservative, and used to be a Republican. Hillary Clinton is hardly the "most liberal" Democrat, which seems to be a charge the GOP makes of every presidential candidate the Democrats raise.People are afraid of Hilary because she thinks she can have total control over everybody's lives once she's in power....
I personally don't see any reason why people should hate her. I think that all of the spite comes from Conservatives being afraid of Hillary Clinton, and how powerful she could be.Flaming_Ape
Right, because that makes a whole lot of sense...:roll:
I could very well say that Bush is a terrible president because he wants to control the lives of every person in the world, but it would be BS, just like your statement. Considering how on most issues Hillary Clinton is actually for more personal liberties (abortion, gay marriage, etc) than the average Republican senator, I have to say that all of you bitter Conservatives are hypocrites who have to resort to non-sensical, moronic hyperbole in order to bring down a strong-minded individual like Hillary Clinton.
[QUOTE="swamprat_basic"]She's actually a very good politician. You all just hate her because she doesn't like violent video games, but in the larger picture, that issue isn't worth squat. She is a strong-minded person who has actually come to her political views of her own accord, and not from what her parents believed. In fact, she was raised conservative, and used to be a Republican. Hillary Clinton is hardly the "most liberal" Democrat, which seems to be a charge the GOP makes of every presidential candidate the Democrats raise.People are afraid of Hilary because she thinks she can have total control over everybody's lives once she's in power....
I personally don't see any reason why people should hate her. I think that all of the spite comes from Conservatives being afraid of Hillary Clinton, and how powerful she could be.Flaming_Ape
I don't want her because she would NEVER be able to get in the position she is in today if it weren't for her husband (who CHEATED on her). She has NO feeling when she speaks, and she's pretty much a socialist! If she becomes pres, we might as well change the name of our country to Europe-minor or something. And Bill is probably running the show behind her. He's the real person in charge.
Bush is the same. If it weren't for his dad, he would never have become president. He's just finishing daddy's job.
SO MANY CLOSED MINDED PEOPLE! IT HURTS. It enrages me. We should just get rid of political parties. FORCE people to actually research their candidate before voting.
[QUOTE="swamprat_basic"]She's actually a very good politician. You all just hate her because she doesn't like violent video games, but in the larger picture, that issue isn't worth squat. She is a strong-minded person who has actually come to her political views of her own accord, and not from what her parents believed. In fact, she was raised conservative, and used to be a Republican. Hillary Clinton is hardly the "most liberal" Democrat, which seems to be a charge the GOP makes of every presidential candidate the Democrats raise.People are afraid of Hilary because she thinks she can have total control over everybody's lives once she's in power.... Complete control? What has she said to make you belive this?
I personally don't see any reason why people should hate her. I think that all of the spite comes from Conservatives being afraid of Hillary Clinton, and how powerful she could be.Flaming_Ape
If she is elected, our economy will go crap within a couple of months of her presidency. She thinks she has the right to take the profits of private companies like Exxon and spend it as she sees fit. I guess she missed the part in the Declaration of Independence where it says ...life, liberty, and the "pursuit of happiness"(meaning PROPERTY). Our security would be weaker and our nation would soon be attacked by terrorists. Of course, she would blame it on Bush like how her husband, good ole' Bill, blamed Bush for 9/11 and for N. Korea going nuclear. She would be the absolute WORST president since Jimmy Carter.
[QUOTE="Flaming_Ape"][QUOTE="swamprat_basic"]She's actually a very good politician. You all just hate her because she doesn't like violent video games, but in the larger picture, that issue isn't worth squat. She is a strong-minded person who has actually come to her political views of her own accord, and not from what her parents believed. In fact, she was raised conservative, and used to be a Republican. Hillary Clinton is hardly the "most liberal" Democrat, which seems to be a charge the GOP makes of every presidential candidate the Democrats raise.People are afraid of Hilary because she thinks she can have total control over everybody's lives once she's in power....
I personally don't see any reason why people should hate her. I think that all of the spite comes from Conservatives being afraid of Hillary Clinton, and how powerful she could be.swamprat_basic
Right, because that makes a whole lot of sense...:roll:
I could very well say that Bush is a terrible president because he wants to control the lives of every person in the world, but it would be BS, just like your statement. Considering how on most issues Hillary Clinton is actually for more personal liberties (abortion, gay marriage, etc) than the average Republican senator, I have to say that all of you bitter Conservatives are hypocrites who have to resort to non-sensical, moronic hyperbole in order to bring down a strong-minded individual like Hillary Clinton.
Hillary is b****. Not only do us conservatives hate her, but it looks like a lot of liberals on this board don't like her either. She's a big, fat phony.
[QUOTE="WestSideAzn"][QUOTE="schoolisnotkool"]One Clinton in office was bad enough enough and now your talkin about a female one, forget about it...LukeAF24Are you kidding me? Bill Clinton was really good in his first term... But to his last year he wasn't. Don't say he was bad.He did such good things for the country it's not even funny to say he was bad and just focus of the bad thing he did. Hilary will mess up gamer's lives, and everyone elses lives. I don't want that. I wanna live in a FREE country. Hillary is an old school chameleon of a politician who also promises good things but does not follow through. And I would never vote for her. To me, she is just riding on the so called "legacy" of her husband. She plays partisan politics, and given the public's attitude toward Bush, now is the perfect time for her to strike. People can blow Bill Clinton's whatsit all day long- he was just an average president, nothing to write home about. He gets credit for an economy he did not create. Plus if he would have kept his nose cleaner and not got involved in real estate scandals, adultry, and pergery, maybe he could have gotten more done. His cabinet contained the most criminals in the history of the United States. Clinton was one of the weakest Presidents in history as far as foreign policy and national defense. Basically we are suffering through his mistakes now. If it were not for Ronald Regan appointing Allen Greenspan as chairman of the fed many years ago,Clinton surely would have been a disaster of a president.Clinton also fought his share of senseless wars. But nobody wants to remember that.
Finally, someone with a brain.
If anything our economy would improve becouse we would begin to withdrawal from the middle east, on which we are currentally spending far more than we should, and our efforts are mainly in vein, all we are accomplishin at this point is the creation of myrters and hatred towards the west, so right now the risk of another attack is just increasing becouse of our neglagence. I don't know what she would do with our security, but I am sure that whatever she would do would improve on what is occuring right now....and she doesn't have the right to take away from people, congress does, and it's called taxes, it's an expence of living in an improving country.If she is elected, our economy will go crap within a couple of months of her presidency. She thinks she has the right to take the profits of private companies like Exxon and spend it as she sees fit. I guess she missed the part in the Declaration of Independence where it says ...life, liberty, and the "pursuit of happiness"(meaning PROPERTY). Our security would be weaker and our nation would soon be attacked by terrorists. Of course, she would blame it on Bush like how her husband, good ole' Bill, blamed Bush for 9/11 and for N. Korea going nuclear. She would be the absolute WORST president since Jimmy Carter.
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[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]What do you think she would do exactly? If she becomes president of the United States, she'll do all kinds of bad stuff, including pushing high taxes, wanting to put total control over what people do in their lives, and like I said before, she always thinks she's doing what's "best" for people when it's not true, instead she's going to use what she says as her advantage (in a bad way). If she becomes president, you'll see clearly what she does bad. Taxes need to be raised at this point, after Bush's vendetta against the middle east, we've become much further in debt, and that needs to be fixed, unfortunatally that means taxes, and I really do respect a politition who does what they know is right even if people don't like what they do.[QUOTE="Flaming_Ape"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="Flaming_Ape"]Hilary Clinton is a total b**** in my opinion...she thinks she's doing what's "best" for people (which isn't true), plus once she's in power she thinks she has complete control over everybody's lives, in which I'll hate...I'm really begging for her not to become the next U.S. president, and I'm serious when I say that too.Wslacker
You're going to have to be less vague than "she's going to take control of peoples lives" traditionally when democrats are in power they do the exact opposite and remove social restrictions upon individuals, so I need more than saying "she'll take advantage of her position"
Spoken like a true Democrat. Tax and spend. I am not dissing you or your political beliefs. I do, however disagree with your above stated point I'm not a democrat, and I believe I'm correct here.People are afraid of Hilary because she thinks she can have total control over everybody's lives once she's in power....[QUOTE="swamprat_basic"][QUOTE="Flaming_Ape"][QUOTE="swamprat_basic"]She's actually a very good politician. You all just hate her because she doesn't like violent video games, but in the larger picture, that issue isn't worth squat. She is a strong-minded person who has actually come to her political views of her own accord, and not from what her parents believed. In fact, she was raised conservative, and used to be a Republican. Hillary Clinton is hardly the "most liberal" Democrat, which seems to be a charge the GOP makes of every presidential candidate the Democrats raise.
I personally don't see any reason why people should hate her. I think that all of the spite comes from Conservatives being afraid of Hillary Clinton, and how powerful she could be.john_doe2
Right, because that makes a whole lot of sense...:roll:
I could very well say that Bush is a terrible president because he wants to control the lives of every person in the world, but it would be BS, just like your statement. Considering how on most issues Hillary Clinton is actually for more personal liberties (abortion, gay marriage, etc) than the average Republican senator, I have to say that all of you bitter Conservatives are hypocrites who have to resort to non-sensical, moronic hyperbole in order to bring down a strong-minded individual like Hillary Clinton.
Hillary is b****. Not only do us conservatives hate her, but it looks like a lot of liberals on this board don't like her either. She's a big, fat phony.
yes its not just right wing types like myself who dislke hilary people on the left dislike her as well. she would be nothing with out bill clinton and the fact that the media loves her.Please Log In to post.
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