Hip-hop vs rock vs metal?

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#51 atm0073
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Well, for one thing, metal is a sub-genre of rock, so... Anyway, being the technical, liberal musician I am, there isn't really any particular genre I don't like (well, maybe except for most country music and techno/related genres). The genres you mentioned (and all genres in general, really) are all good and respectable in their own right, but personally, I prefer the genre of rock the most out of the three.
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#52 NecroKvltMuffin
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Hip-hop is awesome. It'smusical poetry at its finest. The beats in hip-hop can also be pretty cool, especially if you have a good sound system, but the main reason why I like rap is for the lyrics and flow. Many people can'tunderstand the gangsta lingo, and to be honest, I can't at times either, but I almost think of it like Shakespere. You have to kind of read between the lines, so to speak. NOT that I'm comparing rappers to Shakespere, I'm just saying that neither can really be taken as face value. I dig old school west coast, but when it comes to 21st century rap, I like east coast. Rap can be violent, unlawful, and misogynistic, but it's nothing to be taken seriously. Although, some rappers do take it a bit far.

Metal is also a decent form of music, but it confuses me.One thing that gets on me about metal is how extreme it can be. For example, Cannibal Corpse. The music is bad, so bad. Why are the instruments so spastic? Why does the singer sound like cookie monster? Why are the lyrics so screwed up? I'm justusing this band as an example, because I know there are more bands out there like this.

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Cannibal Corpse is pretty awful and it sickens me that they're such a well known death metal band :(
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#53 Espada12
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Metal is also a decent form of music, but it confuses me.One thing that gets on me about metal is how extreme it can be. For example, Cannibal Corpse. The music is bad, so bad. Why are the instruments so spastic? Why does the singer sound like cookie monster? Why are the lyrics so screwed up? I'm justusing this band as an example, because I know there are more bands out there like this.

effena

I agree with this alot,cannibal corpse is horrible and there's alot of bands that sing about the same subjects as them or very anti-religious and satanic, I stay very clear from those.

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#54 jasopan
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I love rock and hip-hop but HATE metal...just yelling into makes and crazy annoying guitar solos.... but that's just my opinion
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#55 anihimrox222
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i love hip hop n i like some rock, but i dont like metal
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#56 69ANT69
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My music taste is extremely random, I appreciate almost all genres, and can listen to just about anything.
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#57 TheFlush
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I'm seriously missing electronic music in the topic title. :cry:

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#58 the-wayward
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rock rocks ..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#59 queen_vee
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I like all three genres :)
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Hip-hop = Awful.

Rock = Generally awesome.

Metal = Generally quite bad, but when the vocals are clean, it can be very good.

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#61 the-wayward
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Hip-hop = Awful.

Rock = Generally awesome.

Metal = Generally quite bad, but when the vocals are clean, it can be very good.

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#62 NecroKvltMuffin
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[QUOTE="jasopan"]I love rock and hip-hop but HATE metal...just yelling into makes and crazy annoying guitar solos.... but that's just my opinion

It is my opinion that people shouldn't have an opinion if they have no idea what they are talking about.
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[QUOTE="NecroKvltMuffin"][QUOTE="jasopan"]I love rock and hip-hop but HATE metal...just yelling into makes and crazy annoying guitar solos.... but that's just my opinion

It is my opinion that people shouldn't have an opinion if they have no idea what they are talking about.

Then the majority of OT shouldn't have opinions on a lot of things. In fact, the majority of OT should just stop posting. That way we would be happy and we could have nice things.
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#64 ParonoiaAgent
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Hip-hop = Awful.

Rock = Generally awesome.

Metal = Generally quite bad, but when the vocals are clean, it can be very good.

bangell99

generalizing is also awful

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[QUOTE="bangell99"]

Hip-hop = Awful.

Rock = Generally awesome.

Metal = Generally quite bad, but when the vocals are clean, it can be very good.

ParonoiaAgent

generalizing is also awful

Well I hate hip-hop, because I know what most of it sounds like and any variation you'd care to throw at me I would also dislike. As for rock, I generally like it, though there are many bad rock groups. I also hate screamo/harsh vocals, so no matter how good a metalsong is, ifit hasgot those vocals, I won't like it. But I do like metal like Dream Theater, who have clean vocals. You have to generalise in order to answer the question, really.

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#66 -Chimera-
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I also hate screamo/harsh vocals

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I still don't get how people think that screamo is somehow directly related to metal. It's a subgenre of punk for christ sake.
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#67 ParonoiaAgent
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[QUOTE="ParonoiaAgent"]

[QUOTE="bangell99"]

Hip-hop = Awful.

Rock = Generally awesome.

Metal = Generally quite bad, but when the vocals are clean, it can be very good.

bangell99

generalizing is also awful

Well I hate hip-hop, because I know what most of it sounds like and any variation you'd care to throw at me I would also dislike. As for rock, I generally like it, though there are many bad rock groups. I also hate screamo/harsh vocals, so no matter how good a metalsong is, ifit hasgot those vocals, I won't like it. But I do like metal like Dream Theater, who have clean vocals. You have to generalise in order to answer the question, really.

Not all hip-hop is the same, you're thinking of the BET/MTV crap.

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#68 deactivated-60678a6f9e4d4
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[QUOTE="bangell99"]

I also hate screamo/harsh vocals

-Chimera-

I still don't get how people think that screamo is somehow directly related to metal.

It's a subgenre of punk for christ sake.

Let's be honest, most metal does have harsh vocals, and I'm sure most of the metalheads will agree, as the majority of the stuff metalheads listen to on here has screaming.

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[QUOTE="bangell99"]

[QUOTE="ParonoiaAgent"]

generalizing is also awful

ParonoiaAgent

Well I hate hip-hop, because I know what most of it sounds like and any variation you'd care to throw at me I would also dislike. As for rock, I generally like it, though there are many bad rock groups. I also hate screamo/harsh vocals, so no matter how good a metalsong is, ifit hasgot those vocals, I won't like it. But I do like metal like Dream Theater, who have clean vocals. You have to generalise in order to answer the question, really.

Not all hip-hop is the same, you're thinking of the BET/MTV crap.

I know all hip-hop is not the same, but I don't like any of it.

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#70 -Chimera-
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[QUOTE="-Chimera-"][QUOTE="bangell99"]

I also hate screamo/harsh vocals

bangell99

I still don't get how people think that screamo is somehow directly related to metal.

It's a subgenre of punk for christ sake.

Let's be honest, most metal does have harsh vocals, and I'm sure most of the metalheads will agree, as the majority of the stuff metalheads listen to on here has screaming.

That's still completely unrelated to what I'm talking about. Screamo doesn't have anything to do with metal. It's part of a different genre.

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I really enjoy both classic rock and metal... hard to decide between those two. I don't like rap... at all.chessmaster1989

Chessmaster says it best.

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[QUOTE="bangell99"]

[QUOTE="-Chimera-"] I still don't get how people think that screamo is somehow directly related to metal.

It's a subgenre of punk for christ sake.-Chimera-

Let's be honest, most metal does have harsh vocals, and I'm sure most of the metalheads will agree, as the majority of the stuff metalheads listen to on here has screaming.

That's still completely unrelated to what I'm talking. Screamo doesn't have anything to do with metal. It's part of a different genre.

Ah, so you're just being pedantic. :P

I meant screaming, not the genre of screamo. I'll call it harsh vocals if you want.

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#73 ParonoiaAgent
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[QUOTE="ParonoiaAgent"]

[QUOTE="bangell99"]

Well I hate hip-hop, because I know what most of it sounds like and any variation you'd care to throw at me I would also dislike. As for rock, I generally like it, though there are many bad rock groups. I also hate screamo/harsh vocals, so no matter how good a metalsong is, ifit hasgot those vocals, I won't like it. But I do like metal like Dream Theater, who have clean vocals. You have to generalise in order to answer the question, really.

bangell99

Not all hip-hop is the same, you're thinking of the BET/MTV crap.

I know all hip-hop is not the same, but I don't like any of it.

Try MF doom or some other underground stuff

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#74 -Chimera-
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[QUOTE="-Chimera-"][QUOTE="bangell99"]

Let's be honest, most metal does have harsh vocals, and I'm sure most of the metalheads will agree, as the majority of the stuff metalheads listen to on here has screaming.

bangell99

That's still completely unrelated to what I'm talking. Screamo doesn't have anything to do with metal. It's part of a different genre.

Ah, so you're just being pedantic. :P

I meant screaming, not the genre of screamo. I'll call it harsh vocals if you want.

It's just that it's a really annoying misconception, because the two are not directly related like that. You'll find that a lot of fans of metal are the same way.
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#75 aliblabla2007
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[QUOTE="-Chimera-"][QUOTE="bangell99"]

I also hate screamo/harsh vocals

bangell99

I still don't get how people think that screamo is somehow directly related to metal.

It's a subgenre of punk for christ sake.

Let's be honest, most metal does have harsh vocals, and I'm sure most of the metalheads will agree, as the majority of the stuff metalheads listen to on here has screaming.

Uhh, no it doesn't. The only metal genres to make heavy use of harsh vocals are Black and Death. The closest to that is maybe Thrash, but even then, comparing Thrash vocals to Death vocals is like comparing a poodle to a rottweiler. Power/Progressive Metal is what you should look for if you want clean vocals; you can find plenty of recommendations for those sitting around in OT, and some of the most popular metal bands in OT that produce such music are Kamelot, Nightwish, Epica and Symphony X.

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#76 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="bobstos"]if everyone equally appreciated all kinds of music, then what would be the point of talking about them? it would almost defeat the purpose of OT.LJS9502_basic
I appreciate all genres of music. Except bluegrass and polka. Other than that I can certainly find music to listen to in the genres.

Haha, I would like to see your reaction if you heard Greek "laika" - the type of greek traditional music we play at festivals, marriage ceremonies etc etc.

:P

But yeah not quite one of the modern music genres.

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#77 Asim90
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I'll take Hip Hop, I don't really like rock music and metal to me isn't even music, just horrid loud noise.

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#78 markop2003
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Metal takes it for me. I can't stand a lot of mainstream hip hop and rock these days seem to include nearly everything including a guitar including Jonas Bros and Hannah Montana.
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[QUOTE="-Chimera-"][QUOTE="bangell99"]

Let's be honest, most metal does have harsh vocals, and I'm sure most of the metalheads will agree, as the majority of the stuff metalheads listen to on here has screaming.

bangell99

That's still completely unrelated to what I'm talking. Screamo doesn't have anything to do with metal. It's part of a different genre.

Ah, so you're just being pedantic. :P

I meant screaming, not the genre of screamo. I'll call it harsh vocals if you want.

Harsh vocals perhaps(but in truth not in my ears), but it dosen't make it part of Metal. And as chimera said, Screamo is a Punk sub genre so the Metalheads of GS wont agree with you there...

Screamo vocals are different compared to the growls and shrieks from certain Metal bands and sub genres.

Screamo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbZpPz4gqJ8

Death Metal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0TXXMtvovI

Black Metal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOTXectm0GI

Thrash Metal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBTgBkQqeOE

Just to give you an idea.

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Yes I'd listen to all three but in the end, electronica is king.
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[QUOTE="bangell99"]

[QUOTE="-Chimera-"] That's still completely unrelated to what I'm talking. Screamo doesn't have anything to do with metal. It's part of a different genre.tzar3

Ah, so you're just being pedantic. :P

I meant screaming, not the genre of screamo. I'll call it harsh vocals if you want.

Harsh vocals perhaps(but in truth not in my ears), but it dosen't make it part of Metal. And as chimera said, Screamo is a Punk sub genre so the Metalheads of GS wont agree with you there...

Screamo vocals are different compared to the growls and shrieks from certain Metal bands and sub genres.

Screamo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbZpPz4gqJ8

Death Metal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0TXXMtvovI

Black Metal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOTXectm0GI

Thrash Metal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBTgBkQqeOE

Just to give you an idea.

Hate 'em all. :P

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I LOVE metal, like alot of rock, and like a very very tiny amount of hip hop. Metal DESTROYS all genres except cIassical.:P
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#83 Norg
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man i like them all

Hip hop - MF doom, Dr Dre, Wu tang clan

Rock - The beatles, QUeens of the stone age, SIlverchair

Metal - Necrophagia,Pantera,Behemoth

How can u go wrong !!!!!!!!!!!!

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#84 Darth-Caedus
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[QUOTE="-Chimera-"][QUOTE="bangell99"]

I also hate screamo/harsh vocals

bangell99

I still don't get how people think that screamo is somehow directly related to metal.

It's a subgenre of punk for christ sake.

Let's be honest, most metal does have harsh vocals, and I'm sure most of the metalheads will agree, as the majority of the stuff metalheads listen to on here has screaming.

A large amount yes, however I wouldn't say most, only 2.5 (Death and black, plus some thrash and doom) of the various subgenres really use it all the time, there are plenty of sub-genres that rarely if ever use harsh vocals:P
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I already accept the differences. I don't go out of my way to enjoy another particular genre though. It's fine that it's different and most (mature) fans of music have accepted that. If they don't like it, it's not for them. Saying something stupid like "it's just noise" or "it's all about women and drugs" or any sort of generalization would be wrong.

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I have quite a broad acceptance of music but I'm not really fond of rap and techno

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Uhh, no it doesn't. The only metal genres to make heavy use of harsh vocals are Black and Death. The closest to that is maybe Thrash, but even then, comparing Thrash vocals to Death vocals is like comparing a poodle to a rottweiler. Power/Progressive Metal is what you should look for if you want clean vocals; you can find plenty of recommendations for those sitting around in OT, and some of the most popular metal bands in OT that produce such music are Kamelot, Nightwish, Epica and Symphony X.

aliblabla2007



I think most symphonic/orchestral metal has clean vocals. Progressive can go either way, and doom as well as some thrash bands don't have clean vocals all the time. Metal will not be for everyone, nor will rap/hip-hop or even rock.

It's totally fine. The only thing that bothers me about that is when people make stupid generalizations like "metal is all screaming (not even close to the right term, let alone a truth)" or "it's noise not music."

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#88 rydalincoln
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Hip hop is the best that other crap sucks balls.Hip hop has The Game,T.I,Lupe,Nas,Jay-z,Kanye,locksmith,wale,drake,Wu-tang,Chamillionaire,Eminem,Ludacris, and many other good rappers.All different styles of rappers in a great genre.

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i hate metal.

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#90 Darth-Caedus
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i hate metal.

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No you don't, you only hate your hard death rock. :P
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This should be answer enough :P
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Trick Question: Electronica
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#93 Chiddaling
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i love hip hop n i like some rock, but i dont like metalanihimrox222
Darn you anihim!! :P I like some hip hop, and rock. Listen to it sometimes now and then. But metal....that's like 24/7.
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#94 MasterBolt360
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Hip-Hop: 60% of my Ipod.

Rock: 30% of my Ipod.

Metal: 10% of my Ipod.

Hey, at least I'm all around.

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#95 Saturos3091
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Hip-Hop: 60% of my Ipod.

Rock: 30% of my Ipod.

Metal: 10% of my Ipod.

Hey, at least I'm all around.

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Mine was 60% metal, 20% rock, 10% electronica, and 10% folk. That was before I got so much new music that I didn't have room for the others and now it's almost 100% metal. I don't listen to my Ipod outside of the car though, so I still listen to rock/electronica/folk on my PC. :P
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[QUOTE="bangell99"]

[QUOTE="-Chimera-"] That's still completely unrelated to what I'm talking. Screamo doesn't have anything to do with metal. It's part of a different genre.tzar3

Ah, so you're just being pedantic. :P

I meant screaming, not the genre of screamo. I'll call it harsh vocals if you want.

Harsh vocals perhaps(but in truth not in my ears), but it dosen't make it part of Metal. And as chimera said, Screamo is a Punk sub genre so the Metalheads of GS wont agree with you there...

Screamo vocals are different compared to the growls and shrieks from certain Metal bands and sub genres.

Screamo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbZpPz4gqJ8

Sorry, but that is post-hardcore not screamo..

Youshouldlearnaboutthegenrebeforeyousaysomethingaboutit.

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#97 Saturos3091
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[QUOTE="tzar3"]

Harsh vocals perhaps(but in truth not in my ears), but it dosen't make it part of Metal. And as chimera said, Screamo is a Punk sub genre so the Metalheads of GS wont agree with you there...

Screamo vocals are different compared to the growls and shrieks from certain Metal bands and sub genres.

Screamo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbZpPz4gqJ8

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Sorry, but that is post-hardcore not screamo..

Youshouldlearnaboutthegenrebeforeyousaysomethingaboutit.



There's Screamo for everyone else who doesn't know what it is. :P

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I've been thinking about this topic lately,they all have goodartists and bad artists. Can't music fans just accept their diffrnences?

Discuss your overall opinion of each genre

Because there musical taste is less than a tea spoon
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#99 Lebbin
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Rock for me.

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#100 ruffluffs
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This should be answer enough :P horgen123
awesome and awsome pic golden sun ?