House of Representatives now have enough votes to end shutdown

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#51 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"]Republicans need to just let ObamaCare fail and then point and laugh while saying "I told you so." The Republicans would dominate for years after that. >_>HoolaHoopMan
The mandate seemed to work out well in MA. I doubt it will fail.

Just like Republicans predicted it would in the 90's.
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#52 Jimn_tonic
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Keep in mind, the shutdown was the whole point.

there is videos of republicans in 2010 promising their tea party constituency, that they would shutdown government.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClLaoZ36q3U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dTXv-I-3F0

obstructionist politics at its best. whether they accomplish anything or not by the shutdown is irrelevant. they just want to incite distain towards the current administration. 

if you got 10 mins, rachel maddow did a good piece on it

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#53 KC_Hokie
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The government shutdown is showing the American people how non-essential most of the government is.

Government is way too big and expensive. This whole thing is good even if it ends soon.

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#54 UnknownSniper65
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All of those Representatives (with the exception of Arkansas) are from blue or purple states....they have to vote with the democrats or lose their job.

The government shutdown is showing the American people how non-essential most of the government is.

Government is way too big and expensive. This whole thing is good even if it ends soon.

KC_Hokie

I wish more people saw it that way whenever the government shutdown. The federal government has expanded its constitutional mandate to the point of idiocy. Nobody can truly believe that, constitutionally speaking, the federal government was supposed to be the goliath its grown into.

 

Maybe if the federal government could keep the parks open if they didnt spend our money so frivolously across the globe.

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#55 DroidPhysX
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The government shutdown is showing the American people how non-essential most of the government is.

Government is way too big and expensive. This whole thing is good even if it ends soon.

KC_Hokie
Haha. It takes time to realize the effects of a government shutdown. Just like how it takes time to measure the effects of monetary policy set by the fed.
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#56 Born_Lucky
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The democrats shut down the government SIX TIMES, while Reagan was President.

When the Democrats shut down the government, it was barely mentioned in
the nightly news.

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

The government shutdown is showing the American people how non-essential most of the government is.

Government is way too big and expensive. This whole thing is good even if it ends soon.

DroidPhysX
Haha. It takes time to realize the effects of a government shutdown. Just like how it takes time to measure the effects of monetary policy set by the fed.

We're only about 1/4 shut down to boot. Only about 800k federal employees have been furloughed.
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#58 MakeMeaSammitch
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All of those Representatives (with the exception of Arkansas) are from blue or purple states....they have to vote with the democrats or lose their job.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

The government shutdown is showing the American people how non-essential most of the government is.

Government is way too big and expensive. This whole thing is good even if it ends soon.

UnknownSniper65

I wish more people saw it that way whenever the government shutdown. The federal government has expanded its constitutional mandate to the point of idiocy. Nobody can truly believe that, constitutionally speaking, the federal government was supposed to be the goliath its grown into.

 

Maybe if the federal government could keep the parks open if they didnt spend our money so frivolously across the globe.

I keep asking this when ever a con says something like this.

What can we honestly cut from the budget? Seems like on most things we've cut strait to the bone and now there's nothing left to cut.

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#59 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

The government shutdown is showing the American people how non-essential most of the government is.

Government is way too big and expensive. This whole thing is good even if it ends soon.

mattbbpl
Haha. It takes time to realize the effects of a government shutdown. Just like how it takes time to measure the effects of monetary policy set by the fed.

We're only about 1/4 shut down to boot. Only about 800k federal employees have been furloughed.

Not sure why KC is thinking partial shutdown for 3 days = people can live w/o government.
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Haha. It takes time to realize the effects of a government shutdown. Just like how it takes time to measure the effects of monetary policy set by the fed.

We're only about 1/4 shut down to boot. Only about 800k federal employees have been furloughed.

Not sure why KC is thinking partial shutdown for 3 days = people can live w/o government.

It's kc
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Republicans need to just let ObamaCare fail and then point and laugh while saying "I told you so." The Republicans would dominate for years after that. >_>The-Apostle
Genius plan. Propose ideas that everyone hates, hold a bill hostage until they add said ideas, have pundits repeat Obamacare until everyone thinks it was all his idea, hold government hostage in an attempt to defund it and then yell I told you so! I wish I had saved my posts from when Obamacare was originally being passed because then I'd be the one saying told you so.
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#62 dave123321
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Think apostle would be gleeful if we destroyed ourselves if it meant a democrat was going to be blamed. Reminds me of another user who always seemed happy at the misery of others because democrats were getting blamed
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[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

All of those Representatives (with the exception of Arkansas) are from blue or purple states....they have to vote with the democrats or lose their job.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

The government shutdown is showing the American people how non-essential most of the government is.

Government is way too big and expensive. This whole thing is good even if it ends soon.

MakeMeaSammitch

I wish more people saw it that way whenever the government shutdown. The federal government has expanded its constitutional mandate to the point of idiocy. Nobody can truly believe that, constitutionally speaking, the federal government was supposed to be the goliath its grown into.

 

Maybe if the federal government could keep the parks open if they didnt spend our money so frivolously across the globe.

I keep asking this when ever a con says something like this.

What can we honestly cut from the budget? Seems like on most things we've cut strait to the bone and now there's nothing left to cut.

Well the military, but that ain't ever gonna happen from a conservative.
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#64 UnknownSniper65
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[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

All of those Representatives (with the exception of Arkansas) are from blue or purple states....they have to vote with the democrats or lose their job.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

The government shutdown is showing the American people how non-essential most of the government is.

Government is way too big and expensive. This whole thing is good even if it ends soon.

MakeMeaSammitch

I wish more people saw it that way whenever the government shutdown. The federal government has expanded its constitutional mandate to the point of idiocy. Nobody can truly believe that, constitutionally speaking, the federal government was supposed to be the goliath its grown into.

 

Maybe if the federal government could keep the parks open if they didnt spend our money so frivolously across the globe.

I keep asking this when ever a con says something like this.

What can we honestly cut from the budget? Seems like on most things we've cut strait to the bone and now there's nothing left to cut.

Start with the Department of Defense and keep moving down the list. 

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#65 MakeMeaSammitch
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[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

I wish more people saw it that way whenever the government shutdown. The federal government has expanded its constitutional mandate to the point of idiocy. Nobody can truly believe that, constitutionally speaking, the federal government was supposed to be the goliath its grown into.

 

Maybe if the federal government could keep the parks open if they didnt spend our money so frivolously across the globe.

UnknownSniper65

I keep asking this when ever a con says something like this.

What can we honestly cut from the budget? Seems like on most things we've cut strait to the bone and now there's nothing left to cut.

Start with the Department of Defense and keep moving down the list. 

that's one area that people generally agree on. but that's only 7% of the budget outside what was allocated to middle easter wars, and that's actually pretty standard between countries.

What else can be cut?