how come black people

don't like metal music?

I've been to a lot of concerts and festivals and talked to a lot of people over the internet, but the amound of black people I have encountered in the scene comes down to around 6-8... especialy I have yet to see a black girl among them.

o.k. I know not a lot of people in general like metal music, but from what I see there are a lot more black that listen to every other gerne of popular music (basicly the % is higher in other gernes atleast from my expirience), there are also a lot of black artist in every gerne except (again) in metal

racial profiling = badgbpman630

exactly,

I'm black and I like Metal...

OH NOEZ THE UNIVERSE IS IMPLODING!

racial profiling = badgbpman630

racial profiling = badgbpman630

The TC isn't racial profiling. He's simply trying to draw a conclusion based upon his own observations.

[QUOTE="gbpman630"]racial profiling = badLuncbox1

Right. But whats the point?

But it ends with my kind calling me a white boy which is VERY stupidHellfury360

This.

Though, I gotta say it lessened over time. Comments like that were pretty much done halfway through university.

[QUOTE="Luncbox1"][QUOTE="gbpman630"]racial profiling = badgbpman630

Right. But whats the point?

[QUOTE="Luncbox1"][QUOTE="gbpman630"]racial profiling = badgbpman630

Right. But whats the point?

[QUOTE="gbpman630"]racial profiling = badLuncbox1

thank you. I am really not trying to be racist, I could care less about race when judging a human but in this case it is kinda interesting.

I'm black and I listen to a lot of different music

And, to hellfurry360 yeah I've had black people and white people call me white too, I just tend to ignore those people.

racial profiling = badgbpman630

dont be naive. Its not profiling, its real-world experience and observation.

For example, every single car I have seen with aluminum sideskirts, spoilers, and doohickies has been driven by a Hispanic. Every single one. So, as far as I am concerned, only Hispanics like to put stupid crap on their cars.

Stereotypes are like rumors; there is some truth to them, and there is a reason they exist. The trick is to not think of stereotypes as absolutes. I am not going around and say that all Hispanics put useless decorations on their cars, but if I do see a car with crap on it I am going to assume its a Hispanic.

And you cant blame me, for I have yet to be proven wrong. Thats the beauty of thinking in grey terms; you can say youre not racist, yet you can entertain racist thoughts at the same time.

probably because its crapmaccer101

I'm black and I listen to a lot of different music

And, to hellfurry360 yeah I've had black people and white people call me white too, I just tend to ignore those people.

anime56

My grandfather actually told me today that I need to get out around more black people, lol. He thinks that I wanna convert to "being white" because of the way I dress and all of my tattoos and piercings. I was just like "Wow. Just because I look a certain way doesn't mean I want to be something else, I'm very proud of my race." My grandfather can be very close-minded sometimes.

to all the people telling:

"well I am black and I like metal"

well duh, I am not interested about specific persons, I am interested in the overall statistic.

For example all the people who said that here: when you go to a concert are there a lot of other black people, is it difrent in the US then here in the EU? What do you think in comparison to other gernes?

most black ppl like to dance, you can't dance to metal that well. shyskillz

That could be it. :lol: I like music I can dance to.

racial profiling ftl.chrisrooR

[QUOTE="shyskillz"]most black ppl like to dance, you can't dance to metal that well. stevenk4k5

That could be it. :lol: I like music I can dance to.

[QUOTE="maccer101"]probably because its crapneedled24-7

hehe, i didn't completely mean it in a bad way, everyone's different.... different strokes for different folks

[QUOTE="gbpman630"]racial profiling = badmrbojangles25

dont be naive. Its not profiling, its real-world experience and observation.

For example, every single car I have seen with aluminum sideskirts, spoilers, and doohickies has been driven by a Hispanic. Every single one. So, as far as I am concerned, only Hispanics like to put stupid crap on their cars.

Stereotypes are like rumors; there is some truth to them, and there is a reason they exist. The trick is to not think of stereotypes as absolutes. I am not going around and say that all Hispanics put useless decorations on their cars, but if I do see a car with crap on it I am going to assume its a Hispanic.

And you cant blame me, for I have yet to be proven wrong. Thats the beauty of thinking in grey terms; you can say youre not racist, yet you can entertain racist thoughts at the same time.

I don't think the TC is racist for making this thread, but I do think you are for what you just said.

That is a stereotype for sure and is completely wrong.

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"]racial profiling ftl.needled24-7

So you're implying that it's fine to assume that all black people dislike metal?

[QUOTE="gbpman630"]

[QUOTE="Luncbox1"][QUOTE="gbpman630"]racial profiling = badneedled24-7

Right. But whats the point?

no, what's the point of stereotyping people? Whotf cares?

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="gbpman630"]racial profiling = badgbpman630

dont be naive. Its not profiling, its real-world experience and observation.

For example, every single car I have seen with aluminum sideskirts, spoilers, and doohickies has been driven by a Hispanic. Every single one. So, as far as I am concerned, only Hispanics like to put stupid crap on their cars.

Stereotypes are like rumors; there is some truth to them, and there is a reason they exist. The trick is to not think of stereotypes as absolutes. I am not going around and say that all Hispanics put useless decorations on their cars, but if I do see a car with crap on it I am going to assume its a Hispanic.

And you cant blame me, for I have yet to be proven wrong. Thats the beauty of thinking in grey terms; you can say youre not racist, yet you can entertain racist thoughts at the same time.

I don't think the TC is racist for making this thread, but I do think you are for what you just said.

That is a stereotype for sure and is completely wrong.

did you read the paragraph after that sentance :|

[QUOTE="needled24-7"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"]racial profiling ftl.chrisrooR

So you're implying that it's fine to assume that all black people dislike metal?

[QUOTE="needled24-7"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"]racial profiling ftl.chrisrooR

So you're implying that it's fine to assume that all black people dislike metal?

he isnt assuming that all black people dislike metal he is asking if they dont cause he hasnt seen to many black people who like metal

[QUOTE="needled24-7"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"]racial profiling ftl.chrisrooR

So you're implying that it's fine to assume that all black people dislike metal?

hmm looks like I should be a little bit clearer with the title. I mean MOST not all. It comes from like said observations, with seeing 5000 people on a festival and 1 of them being black, it kinda leads to this conclusion...

[QUOTE="gbpman630"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="gbpman630"]racial profiling = badFUBAR24

dont be naive. Its not profiling, its real-world experience and observation.

For example, every single car I have seen with aluminum sideskirts, spoilers, and doohickies has been driven by a Hispanic. Every single one. So, as far as I am concerned, only Hispanics like to put stupid crap on their cars.

Stereotypes are like rumors; there is some truth to them, and there is a reason they exist. The trick is to not think of stereotypes as absolutes. I am not going around and say that all Hispanics put useless decorations on their cars, but if I do see a car with crap on it I am going to assume its a Hispanic.

And you cant blame me, for I have yet to be proven wrong. Thats the beauty of thinking in grey terms; you can say youre not racist, yet you can entertain racist thoughts at the same time.

I don't think the TC is racist for making this thread, but I do think you are for what you just said.

That is a stereotype for sure and is completely wrong.

did you read the paragraph after that sentance :|

yea, where he says that if he sees a car with "crap" on it, he's going to assume a Hispanic is driving it? yea i did see that

Well I THINK it has something to do with he fact that the majority of metal artists being predominantly white thus attracting more of their own kind, as we are naturally attracted to things similar to our tastes and image, and the majority of rappers are black, explaining their popularity with other blacks. Its a logical conclusion IMO.

I like metal. im listening to THE BERSERKER right now. good stuff.

[QUOTE="FUBAR24"][QUOTE="gbpman630"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="gbpman630"]racial profiling = badgbpman630

dont be naive. Its not profiling, its real-world experience and observation.

For example, every single car I have seen with aluminum sideskirts, spoilers, and doohickies has been driven by a Hispanic. Every single one. So, as far as I am concerned, only Hispanics like to put stupid crap on their cars.

Stereotypes are like rumors; there is some truth to them, and there is a reason they exist. The trick is to not think of stereotypes as absolutes. I am not going around and say that all Hispanics put useless decorations on their cars, but if I do see a car with crap on it I am going to assume its a Hispanic.

And you cant blame me, for I have yet to be proven wrong. Thats the beauty of thinking in grey terms; you can say youre not racist, yet you can entertain racist thoughts at the same time.

I don't think the TC is racist for making this thread, but I do think you are for what you just said.

That is a stereotype for sure and is completely wrong.

did you read the paragraph after that sentance :|

yea, where he says that if he sees a car with "crap" on it, he's going to assume a Hispanic is driving it? yea i did see that

I don't think the TC is racist for making this thread, but I do think you are for what you just said.

That is a stereotype for sure and is completely wrong.

gbpman630

:lol: I like the way you bolded only a partial sentence fragment. Setting aside the rest of his post, if you had simply highlighted the first part "So, as far as I am concerned..." in addition to your selection, the meaning becomes very different. What a lame attempt to stir up trouble. You sir, should be ashamed of yourself.

There might be a few heavy or power metal songs in my mp3 player sometimes but Metal just isn't my favorite genre. It has nothing to do with my genes, I just grew up with a different type of music.

yea, where he says that if he sees a car with "crap" on it, he's going to assume a Hispanic is driving it? yea i did see that

gbpman630

"The trick is to not think of stereotypes as absolutes. I am not going around and say that all Hispanics put useless decorations on their cars"

there he isnt assuming that every hispanic does it. but everytime he sees one its hispanic. its an observation

[QUOTE="FUBAR24"][QUOTE="gbpman630"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="gbpman630"]racial profiling = badgbpman630

dont be naive. Its not profiling, its real-world experience and observation.

For example, every single car I have seen with aluminum sideskirts, spoilers, and doohickies has been driven by a Hispanic. Every single one. So, as far as I am concerned, only Hispanics like to put stupid crap on their cars.

Stereotypes are like rumors; there is some truth to them, and there is a reason they exist. The trick is to not think of stereotypes as absolutes. I am not going around and say that all Hispanics put useless decorations on their cars, but if I do see a car with crap on it I am going to assume its a Hispanic.

And you cant blame me, for I have yet to be proven wrong. Thats the beauty of thinking in grey terms; you can say youre not racist, yet you can entertain racist thoughts at the same time.

I don't think the TC is racist for making this thread, but I do think you are for what you just said.

That is a stereotype for sure and is completely wrong.

did you read the paragraph after that sentance :|

yea, where he says that if he sees a car with "crap" on it, he's going to assume a Hispanic is driving it? yea i did see that

you obviously read what you wanted to read and avoided the whole point to my argument.

The point is that, based on my experience thus far, I am correct to assume that if I see an older car with cheap aluminum sideskirts and other "accessories" (I think crap is a better term, but oh well you seemed offended by it), it will be driven by a Hispanic.

I do not, I REPEAT I DO NOT, assume every Hispanic drives a car with silly accessories on it. But, as I said before, when I do in fact see a car with silly accessories on it, I have yet to see a non-Hispanic driving it.

No, I am not racist in the sense you think I am. I am a realist, where every-day observations do in fact count for something.

I do not actively hate people not my skin color, nor do I assume they possess negative attributes. But, you know, the things we learn as we walk life's path have to count for something and one thing I learned is that if you see a 1980s Accord with a spoiler, aluminum sideskirts, two nice wheels, one regular wheel, and a spare, with four people sitting in the back...its a Hispanic driving it.

Want a more personal example? Fine...I am overweight. Obese, you might say. Now, I do not fit into the fattie stereotype; I work out six days a week, and I eat extremely healthy. Yet I have been criticized (stereotyped, you might say) all my life because of my weight. Now, I could think in black or white terms and say "dont hate me because of who I am! Stereotypes arent true!" But they are, to an extent, and it drives me crazy. I hate hearing these fat people complain that they have an addicition as they chomp down into some McDonalds. I hate these fat people objecting to Fat Bastard in Austin Powers. They give us fat people that dont fit the stereotype a bad name. But I cant blame the "haters", they are proven right on so many occasions.

So, in short, the people being stereotyped are as much to blame as the people doing the stereotyping.

[QUOTE="gbpman630"]

yea, where he says that if he sees a car with "crap" on it, he's going to assume a Hispanic is driving it? yea i did see that

FUBAR24

"The trick is to not think of stereotypes as absolutes. I am not going around and say that all Hispanics put useless decorations on their cars"

there he isnt assuming that every hispanic does it. but everytime he sees one its hispanic. its an observation

thank you! someone understands. Racism is such a touchy subject, and nobody is willing to meet halfway between idealism and reality.