How do you feel about the word YALL?

If you are inept enough to drink such a beverage, then you deserve to call it what you like...fellybat

[QUOTE="fellybat"][QUOTE="thepwninator"]

 

Change and degradation to a language are not one and the same. Indeed, many linguists believe that it is impossible for a language to "degrade" unless function is lost, and "y'all" is most definitely not an instance of a loss of function. In addition, it is, in no way, degenerating* to myself. If you believe that it, indeed, is, please tell me-I am ever so happy to prevent myself from "degeneration".

*I'm assuming you intended to use "denigrating"...?

thepwninator

As I have said before-the English language, like all other languages, evolves.  This is a completely undeniable fact.  Highly functional colloquialisms that have no viable alternatives often permeate through languages, no matter their origin nor their destination.

I find your intense dislike of a simple and functional word somewhat...bizarre, to say the least, by the way.

[QUOTE="thepwninator"][QUOTE="fellybat"] Consider the anthropological origin of "y'all". While it may serve a utilitarian purpose, how can you expect anyone from the rest of the world to take you seriously, using such terminology?fellybat

As I have said before-the English language, like all other languages, evolves.  This is a completely undeniable fact.  Highly functional colloquialisms that have no viable alternatives often permeate through languages, no matter their origin nor their destination.

I find your intense dislike of a simple and functional word somewhat...bizarre, to say the least, by the way.

You can never be too certain; you would not believe how much slang made it into the prose (not dialogue, mind you) of works such as Catch 22 and Crime and Punishment that has since entered into common use across most dialects of each book's respective language.

[QUOTE="fellybat"][QUOTE="thepwninator"]

 

As I have said before-the English language, like all other languages, evolves.  This is a completely undeniable fact.  Highly functional colloquialisms that have no viable alternatives often permeate through languages, no matter their origin nor their destination.

I find your intense dislike of a simple and functional word somewhat...bizarre, to say the least, by the way.

thepwninator

You can never be too certain; you would not believe how much slang made it into the prose (not dialogue, mind you) of works such as Catch 22 and Crime and Punishment that has since entered into common use across most dialects of each book's respective language.

[QUOTE="thepwninator"][QUOTE="fellybat"] While I appreciate the nature of the evolution of languages, I would argue that, never will "y'all" ever be noted in any future classic text, other than those primitive texts defining the decline of commercial culture in the early 21'st century. fellybat

You can never be too certain; you would not believe how much slang made it into the prose (not dialogue, mind you) of works such as Catch 22 and Crime and Punishment that has since entered into common use across most dialects of each book's respective language.

To be honest, I would prefer not to think of Jack Kerouac; I find his works despicable, and not because of his less-than-formal prose.

[QUOTE="fellybat"][QUOTE="thepwninator"]

 

You can never be too certain; you would not believe how much slang made it into the prose (not dialogue, mind you) of works such as Catch 22 and Crime and Punishment that has since entered into common use across most dialects of each book's respective language.

thepwninator

To be honest, I would prefer not to think of Jack Kerouac; I find his works despicable, and not because of his less-than-formal prose.

[QUOTE="thepwninator"][QUOTE="fellybat"] Think of Jack Kerouac and his feeble scribblings of the decline of the latter half of the 20th century... fellybat

To be honest, I would prefer not to think of Jack Kerouac; I find his works despicable, and not because of his less-than-formal prose.

I was referring more to the fact that I found his works to be intolerably boring than anything else.

I still don't quite understand your dislike of "y'all", however.  I have always been rather fond of the introduction of means of making one's prose more concise without losing meaning (though I am often guilty of using a rather bombastic form of speech when the need for conciseness does not present itself).  Conciseness makes conversation more efficient, thus freeing time for more fruitful activities.

[QUOTE="fellybat"][QUOTE="thepwninator"]

 

To be honest, I would prefer not to think of Jack Kerouac; I find his works despicable, and not because of his less-than-formal prose.

thepwninator

I was referring more to the fact that I found his works to be intolerably boring than anything else.

I still don't quite understand your dislike of "y'all", however.  I have always been rather fond of the introduction of means of making one's prose more concise without losing meaning (though I am often guilty of using a rather bombastic form of speech when the need for conciseness does not present itself).  Conciseness makes conversation more efficient, thus freeing time for more fruitful activities.

Get use to it language has been evolving since the dawn of time, it's a word... people will use it.

[QUOTE="thepwninator"]I think it is a perfectly viable word, as there aren't any other particularly valid and concise means of saying "you" in plural.fellybat

Because having a one word pluralised "you" is something that every language should have. It is actually an analogous to the French word "vous" when used as a plural.

[QUOTE="thepwninator"][QUOTE="fellybat"] Authors and poets are idealists, not realists. Dare any of them try to move into politics, sit back and watch them get shot down due to former dysfunctional relationships or drug abuse.fellybat

I was referring more to the fact that I found his works to be intolerably boring than anything else.

I still don't quite understand your dislike of "y'all", however.  I have always been rather fond of the introduction of means of making one's prose more concise without losing meaning (though I am often guilty of using a rather bombastic form of speech when the need for conciseness does not present itself).  Conciseness makes conversation more efficient, thus freeing time for more fruitful activities.

However, "y'all" does not necessarily represent that which you think it represents, and the meaning of actions and habits changes depending on the person who is committing them.

The southern accent in general makes me cringe, possibly because I associate it with very stupid people.domatron23

[QUOTE="domatron23"]The southern accent in general makes me cringe, possibly because I associate it with very stupid people.ishoturface

OMG I just hate it so much!

Have you also noticed some people in the South say "axe" instead of "ask"?

Blazerdt47

ya'll annoys me too. but about the "aks" instead of "ask" thing.

I learned this in Linguistics 101 this year, blew me away.

basically, "aks" is more grammatical than "ask" because it is older, old-english. it was the "ask" of old days.

"We can see that 'aks/ax' was a valid pronunciation from 1000 CE ("acsian") through at least 1549 CE ("He axeth"). If anyone axe, just say that no one lesser than Chaucer spelt it that way."

I use Y'all all the time. Heck, sometimes I even say, "You all." It's just a part of the vernacular of where I live and where I grew up. One phrase I do not say, nor will I ever is "fixin' ta", as in, "I'm fixin' ta go to the store."Katafran

[QUOTE="ishoturface"][QUOTE="domatron23"]The southern accent in general makes me cringe, possibly because I associate it with very stupid people.Katafran

I don't understand all the hate for Y'all. Just because someone uses the word doesn't mean they're uneducated. It's a perfectly acceptable way to say "you all." What about "Youse guys?" Does that bother everyone as well?hokies1313

I live in the tri-state area and I've never heard that phrase used in real life, though just the use of it in tv gets on my nerves. =X

What about "Youse guys?" Does that bother everyone as well?hokies1313

ugh, guidos are the worst man. i can picture this guy saying that and it makes me want to vomit.

Mocking the South eh? We say ya'll but we don't say axe instead of ask...

Don't get me started on the yankees boy!

I'm still supporting the Confederacy.