This topic is locked from further discussion.
[QUOTE="cory4513"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="cory4513"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="trickmyster13"]They take most of my mother's work, she is in the home construction business, when we consider moving we can pretty much forget moving the business anywhere near the border, the immigrants there take all the work and will work for practically nothing, or other construction officers will smuggle immigrants to work under them, these people get all the jobs because they can bid them extremely low because they don't have to pay there workers anything more then a few bucks an hour. Illegal Immigrants ARE NOT good for this country or for my mother's business.yoshi-lnexFree market? Minumum wages? Reporting? what? It's pretty easy to get people charged for paying under the table, just report if they aren't paying minimum wage. how would we know if their getting paid below minimum wage, and if they made them minimum wage they wouldnt even hire them. Plus illegal immigrants shouldnt be hired for any amount of pay
the people there just want to make a better life for their families and themselves. I'm not saying they're smart (far from it) or that they're entitled to just go there, but racism isn't right either. The US needs the immigrants to do certain jobs "true americans" won't do for $6 an hour. Your country needs the work of immigrants as much as they do.jm4847
[QUOTE="RoyTheViking"]Yes. I live in Alabama. My hometown is now nicknamed Guadalahoover. We are pretty much required to know spanish.cory4513i always thought alabama was hicktown usa
Certain parts are. But there are some very high class areas.
[QUOTE="cory4513"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="cory4513"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="trickmyster13"]They take most of my mother's work, she is in the home construction business, when we consider moving we can pretty much forget moving the business anywhere near the border, the immigrants there take all the work and will work for practically nothing, or other construction officers will smuggle immigrants to work under them, these people get all the jobs because they can bid them extremely low because they don't have to pay there workers anything more then a few bucks an hour. Illegal Immigrants ARE NOT good for this country or for my mother's business.yoshi-lnexFree market? Minumum wages? Reporting? what? It's pretty easy to get people charged for paying under the table, just report if they aren't paying minimum wage. Kind of hard to report people who technically don't exist.
[QUOTE="jakecufc8888"]I don't care. Let them come in, I welcome them. All men are created equal, so all men should be able to live in the same places. It's not as if they chose to live there.cory4513GET HERE LEGALLY AND THEN YOUR AN EQUAL CITIZEN The problem is that's it's so dang hard to get legal citizenship. Last year we did something on it and barely anybody got in.
I don't care. Let them come in, I welcome them. All men are created equal, so all men should be able to live in the same places. It's not as if they chose to live there.jakecufc8888
I have no problems with legal immigrants. I have a major problem with those who come here illegally.
[QUOTE="cory4513"][QUOTE="jakecufc8888"]I don't care. Let them come in, I welcome them. All men are created equal, so all men should be able to live in the same places. It's not as if they chose to live there.jakecufc8888GET HERE LEGALLY AND THEN YOUR AN EQUAL CITIZEN The problem is that's it's so dang hard to get legal citizenship. Last year we did something on it and barely anybody got in. if you want to come here so bad then you better work as hard as you can to come here
[QUOTE="cory4513"][QUOTE="jakecufc8888"]I don't care. Let them come in, I welcome them. All men are created equal, so all men should be able to live in the same places. It's not as if they chose to live there.jakecufc8888GET HERE LEGALLY AND THEN YOUR AN EQUAL CITIZEN The problem is that's it's so dang hard to get legal citizenship. Last year we did something on it and barely anybody got in.
Then get a green card. Those are easy to get.
[QUOTE="jakecufc8888"]I don't care. Let them come in, I welcome them. All men are created equal, so all men should be able to live in the same places. It's not as if they chose to live there.cory4513GET HERE LEGALLY AND THEN YOUR AN EQUAL CITIZEN getting in has become such a difficult and buracratic mess that it's just so much easier to sneak across the boarder, that nobody bothers.......that's the problem that really needs to be addressed.
GET HERE LEGALLY AND THEN YOUR AN EQUAL CITIZEN The problem is that's it's so dang hard to get legal citizenship. Last year we did something on it and barely anybody got in.[QUOTE="jakecufc8888"][QUOTE="cory4513"][QUOTE="jakecufc8888"]I don't care. Let them come in, I welcome them. All men are created equal, so all men should be able to live in the same places. It's not as if they chose to live there.RoyTheViking
Then get a green card. Those are easy to get.
Yeah, I guess that would work. I know somebody who had one of those. I wish we would just let anybody in though.[QUOTE="RoyTheViking"]GET HERE LEGALLY AND THEN YOUR AN EQUAL CITIZEN The problem is that's it's so dang hard to get legal citizenship. Last year we did something on it and barely anybody got in.[QUOTE="jakecufc8888"][QUOTE="cory4513"][QUOTE="jakecufc8888"]I don't care. Let them come in, I welcome them. All men are created equal, so all men should be able to live in the same places. It's not as if they chose to live there.jakecufc8888
Then get a green card. Those are easy to get.
Yeah, I guess that would work. I know somebody who had one of those. I wish we would just let anybody in though.So let in rapists, pedophiles, kidnappers, muderers, and other criminals? Great Idea!
[QUOTE="cory4513"][QUOTE="jakecufc8888"]I don't care. Let them come in, I welcome them. All men are created equal, so all men should be able to live in the same places. It's not as if they chose to live there.yoshi-lnexGET HERE LEGALLY AND THEN YOUR AN EQUAL CITIZEN getting in has become such a difficult and buracratic mess that it's just so much easier to sneak across the boarder, that nobody bothers.......that's the problem that really needs to be addressed. Yah it is a problem that needs to be adressed, every one who comes here illegally needs to be shot
[QUOTE="jakecufc8888"][QUOTE="RoyTheViking"]GET HERE LEGALLY AND THEN YOUR AN EQUAL CITIZEN The problem is that's it's so dang hard to get legal citizenship. Last year we did something on it and barely anybody got in.[QUOTE="jakecufc8888"][QUOTE="cory4513"][QUOTE="jakecufc8888"]I don't care. Let them come in, I welcome them. All men are created equal, so all men should be able to live in the same places. It's not as if they chose to live there.RoyTheViking
Then get a green card. Those are easy to get.
Yeah, I guess that would work. I know somebody who had one of those. I wish we would just let anybody in though.So let in rapists, pedophiles, kidnappers, muderers, and other criminals? Great Idea!
man, no. Maybe a check for wanteed listings in other countries (if they keep those in Mexico) They would come over anyway though.Who do you think has a brighter future? Hard working immigrants or lazy natives? geist117Who do you think has an even brighter future, the companies hiring them, not having to pay the taxes or those who hire honestly and do pay taxes. -Take this situation as one that the majority cares very little about when answering.
Illegal aliens also get other benefits from the ones talked about. They often get lower rent and Mexican community discounts, discounts that aren't available in anglo communities. Where Mexicans move to the prices for things go down. So, they really don't make that much less.FPSGunnerDudeWhere in America (if at all) do you live? I live in Tennessee and the prices of things are higher than usual. :| Take note that this is supposed to be a state with a high pop. of illegal immigrants.
[QUOTE="jakecufc8888"]I don't care. Let them come in, I welcome them. All men are created equal, so all men should be able to live in the same places. It's not as if they chose to live there.RoyTheViking
I have no problems with legal immigrants. I have a major problem with those who come here illegally.
I'm not a fan of the current state of legal immigration either. We take so many non-anglo legal and illegal immigrants, Europeans don't want to immigrate here anymore.[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="cory4513"][QUOTE="jakecufc8888"]I don't care. Let them come in, I welcome them. All men are created equal, so all men should be able to live in the same places. It's not as if they chose to live there.cory4513GET HERE LEGALLY AND THEN YOUR AN EQUAL CITIZEN getting in has become such a difficult and buracratic mess that it's just so much easier to sneak across the boarder, that nobody bothers.......that's the problem that really needs to be addressed. Yah it is a problem that needs to be adressed, every one who comes here illegally needs to be shot I guess people just overlooked what I wrote of in my original post.....*sighs* The truth is right back there, if you all wish to stop and look.
[QUOTE="RoyTheViking"][QUOTE="jakecufc8888"][QUOTE="RoyTheViking"]GET HERE LEGALLY AND THEN YOUR AN EQUAL CITIZEN The problem is that's it's so dang hard to get legal citizenship. Last year we did something on it and barely anybody got in.[QUOTE="jakecufc8888"][QUOTE="cory4513"][QUOTE="jakecufc8888"]I don't care. Let them come in, I welcome them. All men are created equal, so all men should be able to live in the same places. It's not as if they chose to live there.jakecufc8888
Then get a green card. Those are easy to get.
Yeah, I guess that would work. I know somebody who had one of those. I wish we would just let anybody in though.So let in rapists, pedophiles, kidnappers, muderers, and other criminals? Great Idea!
man, no. Maybe a check for wanteed listings in other countries (if they keep those in Mexico) They would come over anyway though.Well you said let them all in and that all men are created equal. And no, most crimes in poorer parts of mexico cannot be stopped. When I was in Rio Bravo, Mexico, I asked about crime here and they said its just something they get used to and can do nothing about.
[QUOTE="geist117"]Who do you think has a brighter future? Hard working immigrants or lazy natives? BranKetraWho do you think has an even brighter future, the companies hiring them, not having to pay the taxes or those who hire honestly and do pay taxes. -Take this situation as one that the majority cares very little about when answering.
Illegal aliens also get other benefits from the ones talked about. They often get lower rent and Mexican community discounts, discounts that aren't available in anglo communities. Where Mexicans move to the prices for things go down. So, they really don't make that much less.FPSGunnerDudeWhere in America (if at all) do you live? I live in Tennessee and the prices of things are higher than usual. :| Take note that this is supposed to be a state with a high pop. of illegal immigrants. I live in Texas and I know for a fact Mexican apartments are much cheaper, like $100s cheaper, since I used to live in one.
[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="cory4513"][QUOTE="jakecufc8888"]I don't care. Let them come in, I welcome them. All men are created equal, so all men should be able to live in the same places. It's not as if they chose to live there.cory4513GET HERE LEGALLY AND THEN YOUR AN EQUAL CITIZEN getting in has become such a difficult and buracratic mess that it's just so much easier to sneak across the boarder, that nobody bothers.......that's the problem that really needs to be addressed. Yah it is a problem that needs to be adressed, every one who comes here illegally needs to be shot I agree with Cory, people like Yoshi have never realized how difficult it is to get physical labor jobs in areas close to the border. Hell last week 7 illegal immigrants were kicked out of an apartment close to my house, they were smuggling drugs in and out of my community there was FBI everywhere, I am real glad people like Yoshi are supporting them and there career decision.
[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="geist117"]Who do you think has a brighter future? Hard working immigrants or lazy natives? FPSGunnerDudeWho do you think has an even brighter future, the companies hiring them, not having to pay the taxes or those who hire honestly and do pay taxes. -Take this situation as one that the majority cares very little about when answering.
Illegal aliens also get other benefits from the ones talked about. They often get lower rent and Mexican community discounts, discounts that aren't available in anglo communities. Where Mexicans move to the prices for things go down. So, they really don't make that much less.FPSGunnerDudeWhere in America (if at all) do you live? I live in Tennessee and the prices of things are higher than usual. :| Take note that this is supposed to be a state with a high pop. of illegal immigrants. I live in Texas and I know for a fact Mexican apartments are much cheaper, like $100s cheaper, since I used to live in one. I wasn't aware that there are still race-specific lodgings in America...I get your point, but if it was/is such a problem, why not....call the authorities...i.e.....the government for a real case in court....
GET HERE LEGALLY AND THEN YOUR AN EQUAL CITIZEN The problem is that's it's so dang hard to get legal citizenship. Last year we did something on it and barely anybody got in.[QUOTE="jakecufc8888"][QUOTE="cory4513"][QUOTE="jakecufc8888"]I don't care. Let them come in, I welcome them. All men are created equal, so all men should be able to live in the same places. It's not as if they chose to live there.RoyTheViking
Then get a green card. Those are easy to get.
Green cards aren't easy to get if you're coming to a country for a better financial opportunity. My brother is an African-born fellow and he had to pay around 600-800 dollars to get his Green Card. They aren't cheap.[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="cory4513"][QUOTE="jakecufc8888"]I don't care. Let them come in, I welcome them. All men are created equal, so all men should be able to live in the same places. It's not as if they chose to live there.cory4513GET HERE LEGALLY AND THEN YOUR AN EQUAL CITIZEN getting in has become such a difficult and buracratic mess that it's just so much easier to sneak across the boarder, that nobody bothers.......that's the problem that really needs to be addressed. Yah it is a problem that needs to be adressed, every one who comes here illegally needs to be shot I'm not sure if this is a joke or not.......if it isn't than you really need to recognize the value of human life....
[QUOTE="FPSGunnerDude"][QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="geist117"]Who do you think has a brighter future? Hard working immigrants or lazy natives? BranKetraWho do you think has an even brighter future, the companies hiring them, not having to pay the taxes or those who hire honestly and do pay taxes. -Take this situation as one that the majority cares very little about when answering.
Illegal aliens also get other benefits from the ones talked about. They often get lower rent and Mexican community discounts, discounts that aren't available in anglo communities. Where Mexicans move to the prices for things go down. So, they really don't make that much less.FPSGunnerDudeWhere in America (if at all) do you live? I live in Tennessee and the prices of things are higher than usual. :| Take note that this is supposed to be a state with a high pop. of illegal immigrants. I live in Texas and I know for a fact Mexican apartments are much cheaper, like $100s cheaper, since I used to live in one. I wasn't aware that they're are still race-specific lodgings in America...I get your point, but if it was such a problem, why not....call the authorities...i.e.....the government for a real case in court.... That's a fact, people often segragate where they live, and non-anglo housing is often cheaper. I doubt I can personally do anything about it. Rent control for anglos maybe, I wish. Double standards only work for non-anglos.
[QUOTE="cory4513"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="cory4513"][QUOTE="jakecufc8888"]I don't care. Let them come in, I welcome them. All men are created equal, so all men should be able to live in the same places. It's not as if they chose to live there.trickmyster13GET HERE LEGALLY AND THEN YOUR AN EQUAL CITIZEN getting in has become such a difficult and buracratic mess that it's just so much easier to sneak across the boarder, that nobody bothers.......that's the problem that really needs to be addressed. Yah it is a problem that needs to be adressed, every one who comes here illegally needs to be shot I agree with Cory, people like Yoshi have never realized how difficult it is to get physical labor jobs in areas close to the border. Hell last week 7 illegal immigrants were kicked out of an apartment close to my house, they were smuggling drugs in and out of my community there was FBI everywhere, I am real glad people like Yoshi are supporting them and there career decision. While I don't support trafficing drugs, I do support people improving their lives, and if they have to enter a country illegally to do so, then oh well, if it wasn't so difficult to get in, it wouldn't be a problem.
[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="FPSGunnerDude"][QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="geist117"]Who do you think has a brighter future? Hard working immigrants or lazy natives? FPSGunnerDudeWho do you think has an even brighter future, the companies hiring them, not having to pay the taxes or those who hire honestly and do pay taxes. -Take this situation as one that the majority cares very little about when answering.
Illegal aliens also get other benefits from the ones talked about. They often get lower rent and Mexican community discounts, discounts that aren't available in anglo communities. Where Mexicans move to the prices for things go down. So, they really don't make that much less.FPSGunnerDudeWhere in America (if at all) do you live? I live in Tennessee and the prices of things are higher than usual. :| Take note that this is supposed to be a state with a high pop. of illegal immigrants. I live in Texas and I know for a fact Mexican apartments are much cheaper, like $100s cheaper, since I used to live in one. I wasn't aware that they're are still race-specific lodgings in America...I get your point, but if it was such a problem, why not....call the authorities...i.e.....the government for a real case in court.... That's a fact, people often segragate where they live, and non-anglo housing is often cheaper. I doubt I can personally do anything about it. Rent control for anglos maybe, I wish. Double standards only work for non-anglos. Okay...blame the people who decided to bunch up with the same color skinned people as their own 1st, not the newcomers who are deemed as infidels for coming to the country of immigrants.. This is ludicrous. :lol:
I gotta put in another edit....I don't know where you get your stuff from....but ethnic-specific lodging? Try financial situation for certain ethnicities, bud. When people congregate to certain areas for cheaper housing, it isn't to live with the "same colored people," it's because they just happen to be in the same situation as their fellow human with that tone of skin color. Illegal immigration is one thing, you're speaking of something far more sinister.
[QUOTE="FPSGunnerDude"][QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="FPSGunnerDude"][QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="geist117"]Who do you think has a brighter future? Hard working immigrants or lazy natives? BranKetraWho do you think has an even brighter future, the companies hiring them, not having to pay the taxes or those who hire honestly and do pay taxes. -Take this situation as one that the majority cares very little about when answering.
Illegal aliens also get other benefits from the ones talked about. They often get lower rent and Mexican community discounts, discounts that aren't available in anglo communities. Where Mexicans move to the prices for things go down. So, they really don't make that much less.FPSGunnerDudeWhere in America (if at all) do you live? I live in Tennessee and the prices of things are higher than usual. :| Take note that this is supposed to be a state with a high pop. of illegal immigrants. I live in Texas and I know for a fact Mexican apartments are much cheaper, like $100s cheaper, since I used to live in one. I wasn't aware that they're are still race-specific lodgings in America...I get your point, but if it was such a problem, why not....call the authorities...i.e.....the government for a real case in court.... That's a fact, people often segragate where they live, and non-anglo housing is often cheaper. I doubt I can personally do anything about it. Rent control for anglos maybe, I wish. Double standards only work for non-anglos. Okay...blame the people who decided to bunch up with the same color skinned people as their own, not the newcomers. This is ludicrous. :lol: All races bunch up with their own where I'm from, so your'e way off. Anglos are more accepting of others much of the time. Anglos also have to pay more rent to live with their own, unlike their non-anglo counterparts.
And "newcomers", excuse me but there have been large Mexican communities legal or illegal in Texas all of my life.
While I don't support trafficing drugs, I do support people improving their lives, and if they have to enter a country illegally to do so, then oh well, if it wasn't so difficult to get in, it wouldn't be a problem.yoshi-lnexAre you insinuating that you condone people coming here illegally, but it's okay because they wanted to better themselves?
[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"] While I don't support trafficing drugs, I do support people improving their lives, and if they have to enter a country illegally to do so, then oh well, if it wasn't so difficult to get in, it wouldn't be a problem.LukeAF24Are you insinuating that you condone people coming here illegally, but it's okay because they wanted to better themselves? Yes, until immigration policy is changed....
in no way possible, those ppl can do whatever they want2ndWonderSo you're with Arnold Illegalneger and all those others who support the illegals?
[QUOTE="LukeAF24"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"] While I don't support trafficing drugs, I do support people improving their lives, and if they have to enter a country illegally to do so, then oh well, if it wasn't so difficult to get in, it wouldn't be a problem.yoshi-lnexAre you insinuating that you condone people coming here illegally, but it's okay because they wanted to better themselves? Yes, until immigration policy is changed.... So, lets say someone broke into your house, illegally I might add. You come home from work, and he has done your dishes, vacuumed your floor, and wiped down the toilet. You tell him to get out, or you'll call the police. "But I have done all the jobs you don't want to do, and I can't find work at my own home". By your standards, you shouldn't ask him to leave. You should pay him, put him on your insurance plan, and give him free residence, just because he wants to better himself. That is what you are saying right?
And "newcomers", excuse me but there have been large Mexican communities legal or illegal in Texas all of my life.
How can you tell the difference between an illegal immigrant and a legal :? Do the 'illegals ones have shifty eyes? :?
I don't know how long you've been living...nor does it matter...unless it's longer than illegal immigration has been at the top 10 of the nation's things to deal with...but anyways...
The point of the "newcomers" phrase was to emphasize that since Caucasians more or less..ran the U.S. after its founding until these fellows started to realize what-was-what, at some point you (I'm just assuming here) have gathered enough credible info to make a claim that throughout America's entire history, people of certain ethnic origins have closed themselves off, essentially, to get cheaper, better or whatever kind of housing than those of "Anglo decent," specifically...instead of other reasons, like....violence (polic brutality is one of them, not just the community going postal) based solely off of ethnicity vs ethnicity (Basically the state of the country until the feds decided to give equal rights for people of different skin color...)...or luck of the draw (people of.....green skin tone live in a trailer park by chance) :|
 I'd like to learn of where you get this info....to
[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="LukeAF24"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"] While I don't support trafficing drugs, I do support people improving their lives, and if they have to enter a country illegally to do so, then oh well, if it wasn't so difficult to get in, it wouldn't be a problem.LukeAF24Are you insinuating that you condone people coming here illegally, but it's okay because they wanted to better themselves? Yes, until immigration policy is changed.... So, lets say someone broke into your house, illegally I might add. You come home from work, and he has done your dishes, vacuumed your floor, and wiped down the toilet. You tell him to get out, or you'll call the police. "But I have done all the jobs you don't want to do, and I can't find work at my own home". By your standards, you shouldn't ask him to leave. You should pay him, put him on your insurance plan, and give him free residence, just because he wants to better himself. That is what you are saying right? I think that's a not an accurate comparison......but to be fair I probably would hire him :P no insurance though.
I think that's a not an accurate comparison......but to be fair I probably would hire him :P no insurance though.yoshi-lnexIt's accurate, but on a smaller scale. If you would honestly hire him, then your opinion on the issue stands. If not, then you should rethink it.
[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="LukeAF24"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"] While I don't support trafficing drugs, I do support people improving their lives, and if they have to enter a country illegally to do so, then oh well, if it wasn't so difficult to get in, it wouldn't be a problem.LukeAF24Are you insinuating that you condone people coming here illegally, but it's okay because they wanted to better themselves? Yes, until immigration policy is changed.... So, lets say someone broke into your house, illegally I might add. You come home from work, and he has done your dishes, vacuumed your floor, and wiped down the toilet. You tell him to get out, or you'll call the police. "But I have done all the jobs you don't want to do, and I can't find work at my own home". By your standards, you shouldn't ask him to leave. You should pay him, put him on your insurance plan, and give him free residence, just because he wants to better himself. That is what you are saying right? the question shouldn't be if he would hire them, but if he would care if someone hired him to do the things that you mentioned.
Please Log In to post.
Log in to comment