How has Obama not been indicted or impeached by now?

[QUOTE="King-Kai"]As I said before, Al-Awlaki was never proven to be an actual member of Al-Quada; he was only proven to be a propagandist. Hence, the portion of the 5th Amendment that you bolded is irrelevant.worlock77

Membership in Al-Qaeda aside, he was a propagandist who was spreading violent rhetoric against the US, so I'd say that could be construed to be a public danger.

That's not grounds for murder, and you know it. Also, once again, the Buddha did not espouse violence.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="King-Kai"]As I said before, Al-Awlaki was never proven to be an actual member of Al-Quada; he was only proven to be a propagandist. Hence, the portion of the 5th Amendment that you bolded is irrelevant.King-Kai

Membership in Al-Qaeda aside, he was a propagandist who was spreading violent rhetoric against the US, so I'd say that could be construed to be a public danger.

That's not grounds for murder, and you know it. Also, once again, the Buddha did not espouse violence.

- So your solution would have been what?

- Not relevant.

Even if there was enough cause for an impeachment, there is too many Americans now only care about their own personal problems and self interest.Jd1680a

The American public can't impeach the president.

As we're coming to the end of his first term, I have mixed feelings about President Obama. On the plus side, I feel he's handled the military well: our forces have nailed two major terror leaders on his watch and he ended combat operations in Iraq. I feel that he cares about the middle class, as many of his positions emphasize the middle class.

On the downside, he's increased our debt by 5 trillion dollars over the last four years. Our national debt now just about matches our GDP. Our children and grandchildren could very well end up paying for that.

I'm a moderate Republican and I'll be voting Republican in November, except if Newt Gingrich gets the nomination (Newt has failed to impress me). In that case, I'll vote Obama just because I don't want my vote to go to waste.

[QUOTE="sonicare"]

It was a bad call. I give you that. As much as I dont like terrorists, the govt. circumvented due process on this guy. Assasinating your citizens sets a bad precedent.

How is it any different than, say, declaring someone "wanted dead or alive"? And for that matter the government has deported citizens before (and long before ether Bush or Obama were born), so these kinds of precdents aren't exactly new.

some of the hate for obama is just plain stupid, there is a reason why congress hasn't impeached Obama for this... because its stupid

some of the hate for obama is just plain stupid NEWMAHAY

As we're coming to the end of his first term, I have mixed feelings about President Obama. On the plus side, I feel he's handled the military well: our forces have nailed two major terror leaders on his watch and he ended combat operations in Iraq. I feel that he cares about the middle class, as many of his positions emphasize the middle class.

On the downside, he's increased our debt by 5 trillion dollars over the last four years. Our national debt now just about matches our GDP. Our children and grandchildren could very well end up paying for that.

I'm a moderate Republican and I'll be voting Republican in November, except if Newt Gingrich gets the nomination (Newt has failed to impress me). In that case, I'll vote Obama just because I don't want my vote to go to waste.

MathMattS

[QUOTE="NEWMAHAY"]some of the hate for obama is just plain stupid sonicare

As we're coming to the end of his first term, I have mixed feelings about President Obama. On the plus side, I feel he's handled the military well: our forces have nailed two major terror leaders on his watch and he ended combat operations in Iraq. I feel that he cares about the middle class, as many of his positions emphasize the middle class.

On the downside, he's increased our debt by 5 trillion dollars over the last four years. Our national debt now just about matches our GDP. Our children and grandchildren could very well end up paying for that.

I'm a moderate Republican and I'll be voting Republican in November, except if Newt Gingrich gets the nomination (Newt has failed to impress me). In that case, I'll vote Obama just because I don't want my vote to go to waste.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="sonicare"]

It was a bad call. I give you that. As much as I dont like terrorists, the govt. circumvented due process on this guy. Assasinating your citizens sets a bad precedent.

sonicare

How is it any different than, say, declaring someone "wanted dead or alive"? And for that matter the government has deported citizens before (and long before ether Bush or Obama were born), so these kinds of precdents aren't exactly new.

What does a trail have to do with it? This is an ages old practice. What about police being authorised to use deadly force? The people they shoot don't get a trail ether. I'm neither defending nor condeming it. I'm simply saying such practicies have been around forever. They've been accepted too, so what makes this case different?

As we're coming to the end of his first term, I have mixed feelings about President Obama. On the plus side, I feel he's handled the military well: our forces have nailed two major terror leaders on his watch and he ended combat operations in Iraq. I feel that he cares about the middle class, as many of his positions emphasize the middle class.

On the downside, he's increased our debt by 5 trillion dollars over the last four years. Our national debt now just about matches our GDP. Our children and grandchildren could very well end up paying for that.

I'm a moderate Republican and I'll be voting Republican in November, except if Newt Gingrich gets the nomination (Newt has failed to impress me). In that case, I'll vote Obama just because I don't want my vote to go to waste.

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

How is it any different than, say, declaring someone "wanted dead or alive"? And for that matter the government has deported citizens before (and long before ether Bush or Obama were born), so these kinds of precdents aren't exactly new.

What does a trail have to do with it? This is an ages old practice. What about police being authorised to use deadly force? The people they shoot don't get a trail ether. I'm neither defending nor condeming it. I'm simply saying such practicies have been around forever. They've been accepted too, so what makes this case different?

As we're coming to the end of his first term, I have mixed feelings about President Obama. On the plus side, I feel he's handled the military well: our forces have nailed two major terror leaders on his watch and he ended combat operations in Iraq. I feel that he cares about the middle class, as many of his positions emphasize the middle class.

On the downside, he's increased our debt by 5 trillion dollars over the last four years. Our national debt now just about matches our GDP. Our children and grandchildren could very well end up paying for that.

I'm a moderate Republican and I'll be voting Republican in November, except if Newt Gingrich gets the nomination (Newt has failed to impress me). In that case, I'll vote Obama just because I don't want my vote to go to waste.

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="sonicare"] I'm concerned about the debt as well. If republicans are serious about preventing a catastrophic debt, then they should not be preaching about cutting taxes. They should cut spending and maintain the taxes. That's how the deficit is reduced. Once it gets under control, then taxes can be reassessed.sonicare

People only want to impeach the president if he got head from an intern. Torturing people, going to war for no reason, violating the rights of US citizens is fine for most politicians.

People only want to impeach the president if he got head from an intern. Torturing people, going to war for no reason, violating the rights of US citizens is fine for most politicians.

BossPerson

Correction: fat, ugly intern. Look at Kennedy - that man considered the day incomplete if we hadn't banged at least 20 interns. No one wanted to impeach him though.

Awlaki wasn't assassinated. He was a traitor and an enemy combatant and was killed during a time of war.

REALLY. Please make it Stop. :twisted:

FACT: Obama hasn't violated the Constitution

I know facts hurt.

When predator drones start raining down missiles on suspects on us soil...I'm with you. He was an enemy combatant, wand it only openly supported and chose to live with members of the opposing faction, I'm glad he's dead, I supported this 100% and hope to hear of more high level targets suffering the same fate. He might have been born here but he wasn't American. Put your time and effort into a cause other then a man who would have ended your life in a heartbeat if given the opportunity. Like I said before his demise sends a clear message to our opponents...if we would do this to a man who lived amount us what chance do you have.Huffanddoback

Because the alternatives are INSANE.Vadislav

Joe Biden wouldn't be so bad.

Because he hasn't done anything impeachable or criminal.

worlock77

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Because he hasn't done anything impeachable or criminal.

eboyishere

He didn't get Congressional approval for sanctioning the involvement of the U.S. Military in Libya. That is unconstitutional.

He was a traitor and an enemy combatant and was killed during a time of war.

airshocker

Obama should be impeached so that Joe Biden can step in. "Pres Joey-B". I like the sound of that.

President Obama is a great man. He has deported more illegal immigrants than any other president I believe. But he also makes a great scapegoat.

Oh no. Traitor? Maybe. But you won't convince anyone on the false belief that he was a combatant. And there is no war in Yemen. Also, assination isn't a dirty word, and it isn't divorced from war.

Vadislav

There is no false belief. He was actively trying to harm the United States and her citizens. He was also actively aiding the enemy. That makes him an enemy combatant.

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Because he hasn't done anything impeachable or criminal.

King-Kai

He didn't get Congressional approval for sanctioning the involvement of the U.S. Military in Libya. That is unconstitutional.

This happens a lot. Congress has only used it's constitutional right to declare war five times. Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, and the Gulf War were undeclared wars. Hardly an impeachable offense, especially since the President is the commander and chief and is given constitutional right to wage war.

I'm going to be honest and say that I have a positive bias toward Obama since he's a Democrat and not a crazed Republican. However, after considering a few actions which his administration has taken, I've come to wonder why he hasn't been indicted or impeached by now. His administration has violated the Constitution numerous times, in the most heinous manner on each occasion. For example, the Fifth Amendment states the following:

Fifth Amendment: [quote="United States Constitution"]No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.King-Kai

Take specific note of the portion that is in bold font (i.e. "nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law"). When President Obama's administration sanctioned theassassinationof Anwar Al-Awlaki, it violated this Constitutional clause. Awlaki, a U.S. Citizen, was assinated without due process; he was never indicted or tried for any of the supposed crimes he was assinated for. Hence, he was deprived of life without due process of law, which is an egregious violation of the Constitution. How has the Obama Administration been allowed to do this? Can't the Supreme Court step in? How about the Attorney General? Oh, wait, he was nominated by the President himself. Talk about conflict of interest. :roll:

Cenk Uygur talks about the assasination here.

Another example of Obama's violation of the Constitution was his sanctioning of U.S. Military involvement in Libya. He never got Congressional approval.

So, considering these examples, how has he not been indicted? WTF is happening to the U.S.? Doesn't anyone have any respect for the Constitution?

because he is black,if they impeach him its racism lol and all the blacks will go on riots and kill all the white people.

[QUOTE="King-Kai"]

I'm going to be honest and say that I have a positive bias toward Obama since he's a Democrat and not a crazed Republican. However, after considering a few actions which his administration has taken, I've come to wonder why he hasn't been indicted or impeached by now. His administration has violated the Constitution numerous times, in the most heinous manner on each occasion. For example, the Fifth Amendment states the following:

Fifth Amendment: [quote="United States Constitution"]No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.bbwwoman

Take specific note of the portion that is in bold font (i.e. "nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law"). When President Obama's administration sanctioned theassassinationof Anwar Al-Awlaki, it violated this Constitutional clause. Awlaki, a U.S. Citizen, was assinated without due process; he was never indicted or tried for any of the supposed crimes he was assinated for. Hence, he was deprived of life without due process of law, which is an egregious violation of the Constitution. How has the Obama Administration been allowed to do this? Can't the Supreme Court step in? How about the Attorney General? Oh, wait, he was nominated by the President himself. Talk about conflict of interest. :roll:

Cenk Uygur talks about the assasination here.

Another example of Obama's violation of the Constitution was his sanctioning of U.S. Military involvement in Libya. He never got Congressional approval.

So, considering these examples, how has he not been indicted? WTF is happening to the U.S.? Doesn't anyone have any respect for the Constitution?

because he is black,if they impeach him its racism lol and all the blacks will go on riots and kill all the white people.

Black people are only 14 percent of the U.S. population, which makes the prospect of killing all of the Whites impossible. The Whites would win.

Hes black, thats kind of a shield these days. That and too many people mindlessly follow himMephers3

Obama is a White man.

I'm going to be honest and say that I have a positive bias toward Obama since he's a Democrat and not a crazed Republican. However, after considering a few actions which his administration has taken, I've come to wonder why he hasn't been indicted or impeached by now. His administration has violated the Constitution numerous times, in the most heinous manner on each occasion. For example, the Fifth Amendment states the following:

Fifth Amendment:

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.United States Constitution

Take specific note of the portion that is in bold font (i.e. "nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law"). When President Obama's administration sanctioned theassassinationof Anwar Al-Awlaki, it violated this Constitutional clause. Awlaki, a U.S. Citizen, was assinated without due process; he was never indicted or tried for any of the supposed crimes he was assinated for. Hence, he was deprived of life without due process of law, which is an egregious violation of the Constitution. How has the Obama Administration been allowed to do this? Can't the Supreme Court step in? How about the Attorney General? Oh, wait, he was nominated by the President himself. Talk about conflict of interest. :roll:

Cenk Uygur talks about the assasination here.

Another example of Obama's violation of the Constitution was his sanctioning of U.S. Military involvement in Libya. He never got Congressional approval.

So, considering these examples, how has he not been indicted? WTF is happening to the U.S.? Doesn't anyone have any respect for the Constitution?

[QUOTE="Mephers3"]Hes black, thats kind of a shield these days. That and too many people mindlessly follow himKing-Kai

Obama is a White man.

LOL

[QUOTE="King-Kai"]

[QUOTE="Mephers3"]Hes black, thats kind of a shield these days. That and too many people mindlessly follow himbbwwoman

Obama is a White man.

LOL

Well, he is...as much as he is a Black man.

obama is just a puppet,you get rid of him he is just gonna be replaced by another to do their bidding.

I love how Republicans are always preaching "constitution this, constitution that" and yet they consistently show themselves to have no damn clue WHAT the constitution actually says.

At this point it is freaking IMPOSSIBLE for Obama to get away with anything unconstitutional considering the Republicans blow the anti-constitutional whistle every freaking time he does something they don't agree with...

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Because he hasn't done anything impeachable or criminal.

King-Kai

He didn't get Congressional approval for sanctioning the involvement of the U.S. Military in Libya. That is unconstitutional.

The War Powers Act says otherwise.

[QUOTE="bbwwoman"]

[QUOTE="King-Kai"]

Obama is a White man.

King-Kai

LOL

Well, he is...as much as he is a Black man.

I guarentee you that if you saw a photograph of him while knowing nothing of his background you'd think "black man".

[QUOTE="King-Kai"]

[QUOTE="bbwwoman"]

LOL

worlock77

Well, he is...as much as he is a Black man.

I guarentee you that if you saw a photograph of him while knowing nothing of his background you'd think "black man".

Not me. As a Black person, my perception of who's Black differs from most people.

He's a great man. He created millions of jobs and significantly reduced the national debt...