How many Athiest have actually...read the Bible ? (POLL)

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#51 Decessus
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Oh,I understand and agree completely with your point,what I was trying to say was that it would have felt hypocritical TO ME to make that decision without reading The Bible...I'm sure it wouldn't feel that way to others.DaveMcSavage


Fair enough.  Although, I'm not sure if hypocrite is the right word, but I understand what you're trying to say.
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#52 DaveMcSavage
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[QUOTE="DaveMcSavage"]Oh,I understand and agree completely with your point,what I was trying to say was that it would have felt hypocritical TO ME to make that decision without reading The Bible...I'm sure it wouldn't feel that way to others.Decessus


Fair enough.  Although, I'm not sure if hypocrite is the right word, but I understand what you're trying to say.

Couldn't think of a more appropiate word,my vocabulary is limited this early in the morning!:P
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#53 ProudLarry
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Read it in what sense? Read it from cover to cover, or just read many passages from it? I was raised Catholic (now atheist), so I was exposed to and read a little bit of it. But since Catholics don't put much emphasis in reading the Bible, I never read the whole thing. Infact I was told there was no real point in reading the entirety of the Bible.
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#54 Nisstyre_56
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I've read the "important" parts
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#55 foxhound_fox
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I would put money on there being a lot of Christians that have not read the Bible...

And why do atheists have to read the Bible if they are atheists anyways?
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#56 Sensui1986
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I went to a christian school so they learned me about the differnt passages in the Bible. I'm not a believer, I just went to school there because it could give me the best education. ow yeah... And I farted in church.
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#57 FireXero
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I had to read it at school when we were studying religion, i really liked the part where it says my father can sell my sister to slavery and if she behaves badly we can punish her by throwing stones at her! :)
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#58 Snomel
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I haven't read it cover to cover, but I have read bits of it for various reasons.

I'm not convinced by your argument though. I may not be completetly familiar with the Bible, but I did go to church and Sunday school a lot when I was younger, and a Christian youth club when I was a bit older. And nothing there convinced me that God exists. So why would reading the whole Bible be any different?

And I read your blog... I appreciate that you were ranting, but I found it badly structured, and mildly offensive. Atheist =/= pot smoker.

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#59 Lds_Ricky
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I would put money on there being a lot of Christians that have not read the Bible...

And why do atheists have to read the Bible if they are atheists anyways?
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Some one hasn't read the entirety of the thread...
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#60 Lds_Ricky
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I haven't read it cover to cover, but I have read bits of it for various reasons.

I'm not convinced by your argument though. I may not be completetly familiar with the Bible, but I did go to church and Sunday school a lot when I was younger, and a Christian youth club when I was a bit older. And nothing there convinced me that God exists. So why would reading the whole Bible be any different?

And I read your blog... I appreciate that you were ranting, but I found it badly structured, and mildly offensive. Atheist =/= pot smoker.

Snomel
Lol it's more towards my friends...and it's not a serious rant....just a spur of the moment thing...
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#61 foxhound_fox
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Some one hasn't read the entirety of the thread...Lds_Ricky


A few people on Gamespot does not represent the entire world population.
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#62 Nisstyre_56
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I had to read it at school when we were studying religion, i really liked the part where it says my father can sell my sister to slavery and if she behaves badly we can punish her by throwing stones at her! :)FireXero
COOL
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#63 Lds_Ricky
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[QUOTE="Lds_Ricky"]Some one hasn't read the entirety of the thread...foxhound_fox


A few people on Gamespot does not represent the entire world population.

The question which you asked previously was already answered on the first page....hence why I said read the thread...don't hop skip your butt to the end of it and drop a comment.
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#64 Deadite1
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I'm an atheist and I'm in the process of reading the bible.  I'm up to the Book of Jeremiah right now.

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#65 espoac
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I'm an atheist but I grew up catholic, so yes. Though it was actually my baptist grandmother who made me read it. Though if you're saying in order to not be Christian you have to read the Bible than that means you (who are presumably Christian) would have to read the Torah, the Qur'an as well as the religious texts of the other tens of thousands of religions that you don't follow as well. What Christians don't realise is that they are already atheists to 98% of the gods ever concocted by man. 
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I attended a Presbyterian school from 2nd to 6th grade and from grades 3-6 we had a Bible class where we read the whole thing. However, I'm not sure why you'd think that reading the Bible would be compelling to someone who doesn't have religious faith since, lacking that, it's just a book.
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#67 Nisstyre_56
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I attended a Presbyterian school from 2nd to 6th grade and from grades 3-6 we had a Bible class where we read the whole thing. However, I'm not sure why you'd think that reading the Bible would be compelling to someone who doesn't have religious faith since, lacking that, it's just a book.xaos
and a rather boring one at that, I would rather read D1ckens

christ, why does GS censor D1ckens???
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What is the point? It's like saying "I'm not racist"...Does that mean I have to go to some KKK meetings? The bible is a hideous piece of crap that has misled millions of sheep and caused them to pour onto the streets going "OMG Kill blacks! ....oh they are accepted now.... OKAY kill the gays! Discrimination all theway !!!"
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#69 daniel52587
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I dont believe in religion and I have read some of the bible. Not the whole thing. But a lot of it.
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#70 TheTerribleFish
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Don't see any reason why I should. Abit like asking why christians don't read the Qur'an...
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#71 -DarthVader-
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I've read it, i've had it read to me, i've had the child's version.

Nothing but a bunch of stories written long ago.
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#72 rat_pac
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I used to go to Church regularly when I was the age of 7 to the age of 12, only recently I read some of the Bible, thus making me a Atheist.
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#73 _BlueDuck_
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I'm assuming the point you are getting at is that it be would hipocritical for someone not beleiving in God/Christianity without reading the proper texts for it; however, using that logic, with religions such as Christianity (where their God/religion is the one true God/religion), it would be hipocritical for a beleiver of said religion(s) to discount all other religions without reading the religious texts of all other religious beleives. I'm pretty sure not many Christians have done that.
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[QUOTE="TallicaFan2005"]What is the point? It's like saying "I'm not racist"...Does that mean I have to go to some KKK meetings? The bible is a hideous piece of crap that has misled millions of sheep and caused them to pour onto the streets going "OMG Kill blacks! ....oh they are accepted now.... OKAY kill the gays! Discrimination all theway !!!"



Don't blame the book for the actions of men.

The Bible is just a collection of words on some pieces of paper.  It's men who have choosen to use those words as motivation to do terrible things.  At the same time, there have been many who have used the words from the Bible to do some of the most wonderful things that humanity has ever seen. 

I personally don't take the Bible as being inerrant, but that doesn't mean I think it's worthless.  There is much that we can learn from reading the Bible.  At the very least, it can gives us insight into the culture of the people who wrote it.
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I'm not an Atheist, and I don't read the Bible. Why? I'll believe what I want to believe. 
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#76 -Karayan-
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[QUOTE="Decessus"][QUOTE="TallicaFan2005"]What is the point? It's like saying "I'm not racist"...Does that mean I have to go to some KKK meetings? The bible is a hideous piece of crap that has misled millions of sheep and caused them to pour onto the streets going "OMG Kill blacks! ....oh they are accepted now.... OKAY kill the gays! Discrimination all theway !!!"



Don't blame the book for the actions of men.

The Bible is just a collection of words on some pieces of paper. It's men who have choosen to use those words as motivation to do terrible things. At the same time, there have been many who have used the words from the Bible to do some of the most wonderful things that humanity has ever seen.

I personally don't take the Bible as being inerrant, but that doesn't mean I think it's worthless. There is much that we can learn from reading the Bible. At the very least, it can gives us insight into the culture of the people who wrote it.

A rather obviously barbaric people.
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#77 WOLVERINE281
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I have read the bible. It's one of the main reasons I'm an atheist.
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#78 firebubbles
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i have, i also read the qu'ran, and buddhist scriptures
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#79 Donkey_Puncher
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Yes, it's one of the main reasons why I believe it to be a complilation of outdated Archaic parables, many of which teach horrible lessons (Old testament). 
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#80 Chuman231
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studying it in english..so yeah
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#81 Gamezilla57
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I won't read it either. If heaven and hell exsist I'll greet the devil with my right hand.
tequilasunriser



I'm sure his greeting won't be as pleasent as yours.
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#82 branketra
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im a christain and read the bible every nightyamum2
Not to offend..but have you noticed the incongruities yet? I'm not an atheist, nor am I a follower of a specific religion....but I was raised in an Uber-Christian household, so I know my way around a Bible or two.
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#83 -Karayan-
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[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"]I won't read it either. If heaven and hell exsist I'll greet the devil with my right hand.
Gamezilla57



I'm sure his greeting won't be as pleasent as yours.

The devil is a woman.
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#84 Decessus
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[QUOTE="-Karayan-"] A rather obviously barbaric people.



You will never be able to understand or appreciate the past if you judge a culture based on current customs and morals.  Times were different, and thus they required different social norms.  You don't have to agree with the way they lived, but it's important to understand it within the context of the timeframe.
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#85 -Karayan-
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[QUOTE="Decessus"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"] A rather obviously barbaric people.



You will never be able to understand or appreciate the past if you judge a culture based on current customs and morals. Times were different, and thus they required different social norms. You don't have to agree with the way they lived, but it's important to understand it within the context of the timeframe.

The romans weren't as barbaric as they were. In fact they had nothing against homosexuality, and didn't just stone everyone to death for the least of crimes or for shaving in a specific spot or working on a specific day. :?
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[QUOTE="Gamezilla57"][QUOTE="tequilasunriser"]I won't read it either. If heaven and hell exsist I'll greet the devil with my right hand.
-Karayan-



I'm sure his greeting won't be as pleasent as yours.

The devil is a woman.


So is God. Scientifically it makes sense, so I'm going with it.
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That is irrelevant.. most people in religions havent read it.  There is no real answer to these types of questions.  Any logical person that isnt brainwashed or ignorant would realize there is no right answer, therefore they wouldnt be dumb enough to be in a religion.  
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#88 Seize_the_dayX
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I consider myself agnostic, but yes...I have read bits and pieces of the Bible. I read probably about half of the whole book and even though it does have it's good messages and words of advice, I find a lot of it to be relatively false and impossible to believe to be true.
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#89 -Karayan-
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[QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="Gamezilla57"][QUOTE="tequilasunriser"]I won't read it either. If heaven and hell exsist I'll greet the devil with my right hand.
tomxizor



I'm sure his greeting won't be as pleasent as yours.

The devil is a woman.


So is God. Scientifically it makes sense, so I'm going with it.

Well, a god would at least be black. Since mankind developed in Africa. But I don't believe in any god.
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#91 Gamezilla57
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[QUOTE="Lds_Ricky"][QUOTE="tequilasunriser"]I won't read it eaither. If heaven and hell exsist I'll greet the devil with my right hand.
tequilasunriser
So your Athiest ? Details please.

I've got enough law from our government preventing me from doing as I please. Adding more restrictions from a 2000 year old fictional tale on top of what the government has already laid down is not my cup of tea. A boat with 2 of every animal a garden of eden talking, flaming bushes magic tablets gimme a break. Accept that you are nothing more than the very decaying material in your trash can and nothing more.





Accept that we will just rot one day just because that's what man tells us to think? I don't think so. I believe the Bible because I understand it and ask God to reveal more to me everytime I read it. If you refuse to really soak it up and believe what you're reading, then you will never understand it. Psalm 14:1says: "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good." Take note from that scripture.
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#92 -Jane-
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Why anybody would be atheist is beyond me...
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For those of you that are "Athiest" have you actually attempted at reading the Bible.... :?

Yes or No answer, I just want to see what the majority of the answers are here on GS, and I don't want any Novels...

Lds_Ricky

  Won't read the Bible ever..  It can't be taken literally, there is numerous fundamental argumetns form numerous sects on what meanings of certain passages are, and whether its real or a metaphor..   And people claim its a great read, sure but there are FAR better "Art of War" Comes to mind from Sun Tzu..  That bieng said the Bible is not credible what so ever.. It has been translated and rewritten hundreds if not thousands of times..  Every translation has made the overall meaning of the bible change fundamnetally.. Due to the fact many languages have words that have a completely different utter meaning when compared to other languages.. Some languages don't even have words that exists when compared to other languages.. Lets not forget that mankind is no beacon of light and I assure anyone that authors have changed the bible subtlely for their own bias through out history..  There is NUMEROUS amounts of proof from this such as the fact that it mentions that the world is flat with four corners.. If this were truely the word of god why would he/she put such misinformation in a book that is suppose to be a beacon of truth?

   Even the 10 commandments them selves are victims of this..  Read the adultry one very carefully, notice that it specifically speaks to MALES and not females.. Because Females at the time were considered PROPERTY and would be stoned to death if they were caught doing adultry... 

   So in the end IMO its not even that great of a book that conveys that great of a message.. There are much more philosophical superior books out there from the writings of Sun Tzu, Aristotole, Thomas Hobbes etc etc...

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[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="Lds_Ricky"][QUOTE="tequilasunriser"]I won't read it eaither. If heaven and hell exsist I'll greet the devil with my right hand.
Gamezilla57
So your Athiest ? Details please.

I've got enough law from our government preventing me from doing as I please. Adding more restrictions from a 2000 year old fictional tale on top of what the government has already laid down is not my cup of tea. A boat with 2 of every animal a garden of eden talking, flaming bushes magic tablets gimme a break. Accept that you are nothing more than the very decaying material in your trash can and nothing more.





Accept that we will just rot one day just because that's what man tells us to think? I don't think so. I believe the Bible because I understand it and ask God to reveal more to me everytime I read it. If you refuse to really soak it up and believe what you're reading, then you will never understand it. Psalm 14:1says: "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good." Take note from that scripture.


You are so brainwashed its almost laughable.  How do you know what the bible is trying to say.  Biblical interpretation is something that could be argued.  I am being general here, not talking about the passage you quoted.   Anything is possible in this kind of topic, therefore you cant honestly be 100% sure. 
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A few misconceptions that some Atheists make:

1.) Christians are stupid

2.) You shouldn't have to read the Bible in order to argue the existence of God

3.) Christians are a bunch of right-wing ultra conservative nut-jobs.

No, no and no. First of all, there are and have been many intelligent Christian people throughout history. C.S. Lewis anyone? Second, saying you shouldn't have to read the Bible to argue the idea of God is like saying you don't have to read Shakespeare's work to write a thesis on the influence of Shakespeare's literature. It makes you sound ignorant. Third, no not all Bible-believing Christians are over-judgemental people that blow up abortion clinics and shove the Bible down people's throats.

So, just open your minds for a second and ponder this question: Before Paul of Tarsus was a Christian he was one of the highest ranking priests in the Jewish religion. He brutally murdered Christians because he did not understand what they believed and he didn't like it. Amazingly, through a supernatural experience his life was completely changed and he became a fierce defender of Christianity and helped propel it into what it is today. Here is a historical figure who literally did a complete 180 and ended up being persecuted as a Christian himself. If there is no God than how did this REAL historical figure go from being a murderer of Christians to becoming one? What motivated him to do so? I don't think Paul had some kind of schizophrenic breakdown or any other physical change. It was a change of heart that could only be instigated by an outside force.

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#96 -Karayan-
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A few misconceptions that some Atheists make:

1.) Christians are stupid

2.) You shouldn't have to read the Bible in order to argue the existence of God

3.) Christians are a bunch of right-wing ultra conservative nut-jobs.

mynameisjosh657

I'm sorry but no one thinks that.
1.) No, they're not, their minds has been poisoned, that's not their own fault.
2.) No, obviously, that doesn't even make sense. But to use the bible in an arguement about the existence of some god is equally stupid.
3.) We know that not all christians are extremists. :?
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A few misconceptions that some Atheists make:

1.) Christians are stupid

2.) You shouldn't have to read the Bible in order to argue the existence of God

3.) Christians are a bunch of right-wing ultra conservative nut-jobs.

No, no and no. First of all, there are and have been many intelligent Christian people throughout history. C.S. Lewis anyone? Second, saying you shouldn't have to read the Bible to argue the idea of God is like saying you don't have to read Shakespeare's work to write a thesis on the influence of Shakespeare's literature. It makes you sound ignorant. Third, no not all Bible-believing Christians are over-judgemental people that blow up abortion clinics and shove the Bible down people's throats.

So, just open your minds for a second and ponder this question: Before Paul of Tarsus was a Christian he was one of the highest ranking priests in the Jewish religion. He brutally murdered Christians because he did not understand what they believed and he didn't like it. Amazingly, through a supernatural experience his life was completely changed and he became a fierce defender of Christianity and helped propel it into what it is today. Here is a historical figure who literally did a complete 180 and ended up being persecuted as a Christian himself. If there is no God than how did this REAL historical figure go from being a murderer of Christians to becoming one? What motivated him to do so? I don't think Paul had some kind of schizophrenic breakdown or any other physical change. It was a change of heart that could only be instigated by an outside force.

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     Cherry picking and misinformation FTW!

1.) Christians are stupid

--It sure seems that way when they believe the earth is only seven thousand years old when eveyr form of science from physics, geology, paleotology, etc says other wise.  Infact some fools think dinosaurs WALKED with man and tried to justifiy it through the verse of the Bible.

2.) You shouldn't have to read the Bible in order to argue the existence of God

---- Pure BS this is like me saying you do not understand god because my book the Quran is correct.. This is making the assumption that the Bible is 100% correct and IT ISN'T..  There ar enumerous foresights, I guess you think Noahs Arc was posisble, or at one time the earth really was flat sense the Bible said so?  Or what about int he early transitions that said the Earth was the center of the universe.

3.) Christians are a bunch of right-wing ultra conservative nut-jobs.

      No they arn't, but the arrogant fools like you ARE.  People who some how think their beliefs are above every one elses, yet will argue and betray Jesus's teachings just to prove that their faith is some how correct..  And no Christians arn't right wing Ultra conservative Nut jobs, BUT THEY HAVE hi-jacked the right wing.. In the end they are the source for quite a few of our bigotry and sexism in the US, numerous upon numerous evangelicals have been recorded saying many unbelievable statements.

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#98 KrayzieJ
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“Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burned, tortured, fined, and imprisoned, yet we have not advanced one inch toward uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half of the world fools and the other half hypocrites.” -Thomas Jefferson just pwned Christianity.
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#99 mynameisjosh657
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[QUOTE="mynameisjosh657"]

A few misconceptions that some Atheists make:

1.) Christians are stupid

2.) You shouldn't have to read the Bible in order to argue the existence of God

3.) Christians are a bunch of right-wing ultra conservative nut-jobs.

-Karayan-


I'm sorry but no one thinks that.
1.) No, they're not, their minds has been poisoned, that's not their own fault.
2.) No, obviously, that doesn't even make sense. But to use the bible in an arguement about the existence of some god is equally stupid.
3.) We know that not all christians are extremists. :?

Well then you haven't been around enough people. There are TONS of people who think Christians are idiot ultra-conservatives. To say that there is NO ONE that thinks this is an overgeneralization.

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#100 Trippinskott
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I'm an atheist and I've read the bible, it's a good fiction read, like The DaVinci Code.