How should I tell my Mom I'm an Atheist over lunch, OT?

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"][QUOTE="Wilfred_Owen"] Nothing turns out that simple. They'll be some screaming. Maybe a scoop of ice cream thrown. I don't know.KeitekeTokage

this should get your point across

Why exactly do you have to tell her? If it dosn't change anything then there's no reason to.markop2003

[QUOTE="markop2003"]Why exactly do you have to tell her? If it dosn't change anything then there's no reason to.surrealnumber5

Is everyone that chooses to think for themselves nonconformists?

Iwould pray about it before you talk to her, oh wait... :/

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="markop2003"]Why exactly do you have to tell her? If it dosn't change anything then there's no reason to.tenaka2

Is everyone that chooses to think for themselves nonconformists?

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Why make it an event? It's not a big deal. If she ever asks, tell the truth. Simple as that. Go on with your life.

I don't see the point of going through the theatrics. It's not like you're announcing a baby or engagement...

KeitekeTokage

thats the thing.

It really depends on how important you think this is. If you consider being an Atheist an important part of your life, maybe you should tell her.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] how else would he show her that he is a nonconformistsurrealnumber5

Is everyone that chooses to think for themselves nonconformists?

Yeah I suppose I agree with you, there is no real need to tell his mother he is atheist or us for thta matter.

Um..don't?

Seriously, you're making this sound like you're trying to come out of the closet or something.

Most people know that religion is crap anyway. I don't think she'll care.

Darkwanderer000

Most people believe strongly in what you call "crap". Get off your high horse. If his family is devout then it's a big deal.

[QUOTE="Darkwanderer000"]

Um..don't?

Seriously, you're making this sound like you're trying to come out of the closet or something.

Most people know that religion is crap anyway. I don't think she'll care.

m25105

Most people believe strongly in what you call "crap". Get off your high horse. If his family is devout then it's a big deal.

If his family makes a big deal out of this and it effects how they think of him then theyre not worth a crap though.

[QUOTE="m25105"]

[QUOTE="Darkwanderer000"]

Um..don't?

Seriously, you're making this sound like you're trying to come out of the closet or something.

Most people know that religion is crap anyway. I don't think she'll care.

rzepak

Most people believe strongly in what you call "crap". Get off your high horse. If his family is devout then it's a big deal.

If his family makes a big deal out of this and it effects how they think of him then theyre not worth a crap though.

You don't know anything about his family to make such a statement. His family might be devout and wishes for their son to be a good follower of whatever faith they pratice.

[QUOTE="rzepak"]

[QUOTE="m25105"]

Most people believe strongly in what you call "crap". Get off your high horse. If his family is devout then it's a big deal.

m25105

If his family makes a big deal out of this and it effects how they think of him then theyre not worth a crap though.

You don't know anything about his family to make such a statement. His family might be devout and wishes for their son to be a good follower of whatever faith they pratice.

That does not change my opinion...If people allow themeselves to judge others by their faith, they are not worth much IMO (i see i have to make that clear)

[QUOTE="m25105"]

[QUOTE="rzepak"]

If his family makes a big deal out of this and it effects how they think of him then theyre not worth a crap though.

rzepak

You don't know anything about his family to make such a statement. His family might be devout and wishes for their son to be a good follower of whatever faith they pratice.

That does not change my opinion...If people allow themeselves to judge others by their faith, they are not worth much IMO (i see i have to make that clear)

[QUOTE="rzepak"]

[QUOTE="m25105"]

You don't know anything about his family to make such a statement. His family might be devout and wishes for their son to be a good follower of whatever faith they pratice.

m25105

That does not change my opinion...If people allow themeselves to judge others by their faith, they are not worth much IMO (i see i have to make that clear)

And thats wrong? I have no need to love and respect everyone, everywhere and Im pretty sure everyone doesnt care about my useless opinion of them.

[QUOTE="m25105"][QUOTE="rzepak"]

That does not change my opinion...If people allow themeselves to judge others by their faith, they are not worth much IMO (i see i have to make that clear)

rzepak

And thats wrong? I have no need to love and respect everyone, everywhere and Im pretty sure everyone doesnt care about my useless opinion.

So....I've set up a lunch with my mom and have already made it clear that I want to discuss religion with her. I plan on telling her for the first time that I'm an atheist. About a month or so ago over lunch she asked me if I was agnostic, which shocked me because I never told her anything of the such (must have been careless somewhere on fb with a post). She didn't seem too devestated about that, just a bit upset perhaps a little more. The only thing she said to me was "I think you think that God judges people, and he doesn't judge people". One of her colleagues that's above her in ranking walked into the resturaunt at that moment and sat at the table next to us, and they began to have a conversation. I didn't want to talk about such a thing around her colleague not knowing how he may react so the conversation ended there. So now I've decided to set up lunch again and I plan on telling her this time. How exactly should I construct this conversatin OT?

Oh and she's Christian btw, my whole family is and I'm 20 yrs old and going to college (which she pays for) if that's at all relevant.

KeitekeTokage

it's not like lying about it will send you to hell.

there is not one way in which this is a good idea or improves anyones existence.

Just tell her that you think the structure of organized religion goes against your concept of faith. That way you can leave it open to the idea that you believe in something, yet you don't wish to follow the decrepit dogma of mankind that blinds so many people.

[QUOTE="KeitekeTokage"]

So....I've set up a lunch with my mom and have already made it clear that I want to discuss religion with her. I plan on telling her for the first time that I'm an atheist. About a month or so ago over lunch she asked me if I was agnostic, which shocked me because I never told her anything of the such (must have been careless somewhere on fb with a post). She didn't seem too devestated about that, just a bit upset perhaps a little more. The only thing she said to me was "I think you think that God judges people, and he doesn't judge people". One of her colleagues that's above her in ranking walked into the resturaunt at that moment and sat at the table next to us, and they began to have a conversation. I didn't want to talk about such a thing around her colleague not knowing how he may react so the conversation ended there. So now I've decided to set up lunch again and I plan on telling her this time. How exactly should I construct this conversatin OT?

Oh and she's Christian btw, my whole family is and I'm 20 yrs old and going to college (which she pays for) if that's at all relevant.

Riverwolf007

it's not like lying about it will send you to hell.

there is not one way in which this is a good idea or improves anyones existence.

Is it that big of a deal? My parents are religous, but they could care less about my beliefs.

YOU: "mom, I have something to tell you. You may not like it, but i'm talking to you as an adult and i would like you to take what i say seriously. I have been having some problems with my faith over the past X number of years for many reasons which i do not care to go into, however, I have come to the conclusion that I no longer believe in god; I have decided to become an Athiest. This does not make me abnormal or a nasty person, i simply do not have the same beliefs as you do and i hope it will not affect our relationship in any negative way."

^^^something like that?

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="KeitekeTokage"]

So....I've set up a lunch with my mom and have already made it clear that I want to discuss religion with her. I plan on telling her for the first time that I'm an atheist. About a month or so ago over lunch she asked me if I was agnostic, which shocked me because I never told her anything of the such (must have been careless somewhere on fb with a post). She didn't seem too devestated about that, just a bit upset perhaps a little more. The only thing she said to me was "I think you think that God judges people, and he doesn't judge people". One of her colleagues that's above her in ranking walked into the resturaunt at that moment and sat at the table next to us, and they began to have a conversation. I didn't want to talk about such a thing around her colleague not knowing how he may react so the conversation ended there. So now I've decided to set up lunch again and I plan on telling her this time. How exactly should I construct this conversatin OT?

Oh and she's Christian btw, my whole family is and I'm 20 yrs old and going to college (which she pays for) if that's at all relevant.

Darthmatt

it's not like lying about it will send you to hell.

there is not one way in which this is a good idea or improves anyones existence.

"Mom, I'm an Atheist."

[QUOTE="rzepak"]

[QUOTE="m25105"] Then half the world ain't worth much according to you.m25105

And thats wrong? I have no need to love and respect everyone, everywhere and Im pretty sure everyone doesnt care about my useless opinion.

rzepak is right. Anybody preaching religion then bashing everyone else not part of it is not worth much. The way I see it it's a one way ticket to their version of hell.

It's pretty clear why people are worried about admitting that they are Atheist. A University study concluded that Atheists are the most distrusted minority over in the USA.

Either way, just present the fact to her. If she is a loving Mother who isn't an ignorant bigot, she won't disown or frown upon you. If she has a very negative reaction, and things really go down hill, then she doesn't sound like a parent worthy of any respect.

[QUOTE="m25105"][QUOTE="rzepak"]

And thats wrong? I have no need to love and respect everyone, everywhere and Im pretty sure everyone doesnt care about my useless opinion.

F1ame_Shie1d

rzepak is right. Anybody preaching religion then bashing everyone else not part of it is not worth much. The way I see it it's a one way ticket to their version of hell.

Right after you tell her that you're scouring the internet looking for someone who will let you kill, cook and eat them. Just slip it in all nonchalant like.

Is it that big of a deal? My parents are religous, but they could care less about my beliefs.

sonicare

Why should you tell her?