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Did he create himself or something? I have been sitting here thinking about this for awhlie now and it's kinda interesting if i do say so myself. We all know that the bible says that god created the earth and humans. But how was god created?
whitetiger3521
I'm sorry TC were you actually expecting one of us to have an answer for you?
He was created after they destroyed the second death star.
Lief_Ericson
:lol:
Definitely the best answer here :P.
What happend after they blew up the first one?He was created after they destroyed the second death star.
Lief_Ericson
He was never created. according to the bible, he has no beggining or end. he has always been here, since before he created the universe. thats part of what my religion teaches anyway.
Neo-ganon
thats a little too convenient, especially considering the rest of the bible actually makes some sense from that point
everything is because god made it so
what about god?
god made himself god.
See? Just doesnt make sense.
[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]
He was never created. according to the bible, he has no beggining or end. he has always been here, since before he created the universe. thats part of what my religion teaches anyway.
mrbojangles25
thats a little too convenient, especially considering the rest of the bible actually makes some sense from that point
everything is because god made it so
what about god?
god made himself god.
See? Just doesnt make sense.
Self sustainment logically flows from omnipotence. If God is omnipotent, God is self-sustaining; if God is self-sustaining, God does not need a beginning and can only end if He wants to.
[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]
[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]
He was never created. according to the bible, he has no beggining or end. he has always been here, since before he created the universe. thats part of what my religion teaches anyway.
Theokhoth
thats a little too convenient, especially considering the rest of the bible actually makes some sense from that point
everything is because god made it so
what about god?
god made himself god.
See? Just doesnt make sense.
Self sustainment logically flows from omnipotence. If God is omnipotent, God is self-sustaining; if God is self-sustaining, God does not need a beginning and can only end if He wants to.
I don't really see how each statement logically follows from the previous one...
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]
[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]
thats a little too convenient, especially considering the rest of the bible actually makes some sense from that point
everything is because god made it so
what about god?
god made himself god.
See? Just doesnt make sense.
chessmaster1989
Self sustainment logically flows from omnipotence. If God is omnipotent, God is self-sustaining; if God is self-sustaining, God does not need a beginning and can only end if He wants to.
I don't really see how each statement logically follows from the previous one...
Omnipotence = infinite power.
Infinite power = infinite life.
Infinite life = no beginning or end.
It gets a bit more complicated after that.
Would you find the answer among what God created?Did he create himself or something? I have been sitting here thinking about this for awhlie now and it's kinda interesting if i do say so myself. We all know that the bible says that god created the earth and humans. But how was god created?
whitetiger3521
[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]
Self sustainment logically flows from omnipotence. If God is omnipotent, God is self-sustaining; if God is self-sustaining, God does not need a beginning and can only end if He wants to.
Theokhoth
I don't really see how each statement logically follows from the previous one...
Omnipotence = infinite power.
Infinite power = infinite life.
Infinite life = no beginning or end.
It gets a bit more complicated after that.
Well, infinite life implies no end, but it doesn't imply no beginning. Something could logically be created and have infinite life thereafter...
i can't believe some of the stuff human beings conjure up
we are such a dumb species it's depressing to me
this statement requires no response i'm just venting - though i'm sure one of you will have something to say
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]
[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]
I don't really see how each statement logically follows from the previous one...
chessmaster1989
Omnipotence = infinite power.
Infinite power = infinite life.
Infinite life = no beginning or end.
It gets a bit more complicated after that.
Well, infinite life implies no end, but it doesn't imply no beginning. Something could logically be created and have infinite life thereafter...
Then it's not a true infinite. A true infinite is no beginning or end.
And that is why it's called faith. You just have to believe, and you can question, but do not change your beliefs on the thoughts of others.Most religions will tell you that he/she/it is not affected by time, and has always existed. It's just a leap of faith you have to make, I guess.
efrucht
[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]
Omnipotence = infinite power.
Infinite power = infinite life.
Infinite life = no beginning or end.
It gets a bit more complicated after that.
Theokhoth
Well, infinite life implies no end, but it doesn't imply no beginning. Something could logically be created and have infinite life thereafter...
Then it's not a true infinite. A true infinite is no beginning or end.
No, that's definitely still infinite.
Think about the set N = {1,2,3,4,5,...,n,...}. It is most certainly infinite, but it does have a beginning. On the other hand, Z = {...,-n,,...,-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3,...,n,...} is also infinite, but has no beginning.
Saying that there is no God is like going to the top of the empire state building and saying that it is just a mere illusion that someone created this building, it was created by a trillion chances all going right and hence we have the building standing all on it's own..
Saying that there is no God is like going to the top of the empire state building and saying that it is just a mere illusion that someone created this building, it was created by a trillion chances all going right and hence we have the building standing all on it's own..
Stranger_4
Wow...
...thanks for the worthless straw man.
[QUOTE="Stranger_4"]
Saying that there is no God is like going to the top of the empire state building and saying that it is just a mere illusion that someone created this building, it was created by a trillion chances all going right and hence we have the building standing all on it's own..
chessmaster1989
Wow...
...thanks for the worthless straw man.
I wasnt relpying to the TC....[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]
[QUOTE="Stranger_4"]
Saying that there is no God is like going to the top of the empire state building and saying that it is just a mere illusion that someone created this building, it was created by a trillion chances all going right and hence we have the building standing all on it's own..
Stranger_4
Wow...
...thanks for the worthless straw man.
I wasnt relpying to the TC....I am completely aware of that...
I wasnt relpying to the TC....[QUOTE="Stranger_4"]
[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]
Wow...
...thanks for the worthless straw man.
chessmaster1989
I am completely aware of that...
Oh you are calling my analogy a straw man. Well whatever you want to think...If God is real and he created space and time how could he have a beginning? The term 'A beginning' refers to creation at some point in our time. God can not be created within his own creation. That's what we call a paradox. Gos must live outside our space and time which means he lives in a higher dimension.
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