How will America handle being number 2 in the world?

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

dont worry america, your still nr.1

__Chris__

And yet more people still want to go to the USA than "insert whatever other country"

Have you even been to the United States? Just because some chart has 9 negative things on it, this makes the US some god awful country?

I have and I know that it doesn't... which is why I said more people still want to go the USA than "insert whatever country".

[QUOTE="__Chris__"]

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

And yet more people still want to go to the USA than "insert whatever other country"

Espada12

Have you even been to the United States? Just because some chart has 9 negative things on it, this makes the US some god awful country?

I have and I know that it doesn't... which is why I said more people still want to go the USA than "insert whatever country".

Sorry then, your post just came off as sarcastic to me.

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

And yet more people still want to go to the USA than "insert whatever other country"

LJS9502_basic

and im sure those people enjoy "insert whatever crime here" :P

gotta get to the more urban areas.samuraiguns

Gang related crime in big cities should not be representative of the entire country.

China might very well get a leg up on the US, and sustain that lead for a number of years or even a few decades. But it will inevitably collapse on itself in a short timespan if what we've seen is any indication.

China will most likely never have the number one economy.

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

And yet more people still want to go to the USA than "insert whatever other country"

LJS9502_basic

and im sure those people enjoy "insert whatever crime here" :P

perhaps i should explain,

it was meant as an over-the-top joke, because he made an over-the-top statement ;)

dont worry america, your still nr.1

Half-Way

Lol'd, hard.

perhaps i should explain,

it was meant as an over-the-top joke, because he made an over-the-top statement ;)

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

dont worry america, your still nr.1

Victorious_Fize

Lol'd, hard.

that was actually the point :P it wasn't meant to be taken seriously, considering the list was probably taken from old numbers.

perhaps i should explain,

it was meant as an over-the-top joke, because he made an over-the-top statement ;)

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

perhaps i should explain,

it was meant as an over-the-top joke, because he made an over-the-top statement ;)

Omni-Slash

please dont change this into a pointless argument about the USA.

You would post proof that the numbers really are correct, and that people would love to live in the USA.

I would post numbers showing that America is still nr. 1 on some of these negative aspects.

ect.

it wouldn't lead anywhere. It was a joke. Dont be too defensive.

It's the "I want to be part of the empire syndrome". Happened to Rome too. There's a perception, among the general population, that just being part of the empire is better than staying in their country. In some cases that's true but in many others that's actually not true. Funnily enough if those people are in worse situation in their new home than before they still think they are better off where they are now, it is part of what is popularly called cognitive dissonance which we all suffer in part, although some more than others, and which allows us to deceive ourselves pretty efficiently.kuraimen

please dont change this into a pointless argument about the USA.

You would post proof that the numbers really are correct, and that people would love to live in the USA.

I would post numbers showing that America is still nr. 1 on some of these negative aspects.

ect.

it wouldn't lead anywhere. It was a joke. Dont be too defensive.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]It's the "I want to be part of the empire syndrome". Happened to Rome too. There's a perception, among the general population, that just being part of the empire is better than staying in their country. In some cases that's true but in many others that's actually not true. Funnily enough if those people are in worse situation in their new home than before they still think they are better off where they are now, it is part of what is popularly called cognitive dissonance which we all suffer in part, although some more than others, and which allows us to deceive ourselves pretty efficiently.Omni-Slash

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

They will never surpass the US and the west as is what fuels their economy.

CwlHeddwyn

all bubbles must pop eventually. Especially rapidly expanding ones.

As for how the US will handle it...fine? Why wouldnt we handle it well?

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

please dont change this into a pointless argument about the USA.

You would post proof that the numbers really are correct, and that people would love to live in the USA.

I would post numbers showing that America is still nr. 1 on some of these negative aspects.

ect.

it wouldn't lead anywhere. It was a joke. Dont be too defensive.

Omni-Slash

i find it to be very funny actually :)

No I clearly said that for many people it is better but for many don't, like in any country. Either way using the desire for citizenship status of the perceived empire at a time to prove how much better it is is misleading since this kind of phenomenon is very real, I'm not making things up.kuraimen

[QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

They will never surpass the US and the west as is what fuels their economy.

mrbojangles25

all bubbles must pop eventually. Especially rapidly expanding ones.

As for how the US will handle it...fine? Why wouldnt we handle it well?

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]No I clearly said that for many people it is better but for many don't, like in any country. Either way using the desire for citizenship status of the perceived empire at a time to prove how much better it is is misleading since this kind of phenomenon is very real, I'm not making things up.Omni-Slash

I suspect in 50 years, many people from third world countries will blame their status on China and India. It's a cycle that has been going on for quite some time. Whoever is top dog, they are the reason for all the world's problems.

I suspect in 50 years, many people from third world countries will blame their status on China and India. It's a cycle that has been going on for quite some time. Whoever is top dog, they are the reason for all the world's problems.

sonicare

im not trying to sound disrespectful, but people who know history know this is partly true..

Of course you cant blame every problem on the big countries, but there are definitely many problems caused by them.

I suspect in 50 years, many people from third world countries will blame their status on China and India. It's a cycle that has been going on for quite some time. Whoever is top dog, they are the reason for all the world's problems.

sonicare

Yeah, I mean the US does have a hand in some things but to put the blame squarely on them is pretty low. Don't worry when China correctly values their dollar and their growth slows down maybe people will stop with the whole CHINA GUN BE BETTA DAN AMERIKA LOLOLOOL mentality. It also seems people are all to happy for this.. who in their right mind would want China to be the global superpower? Seriously now....

[QUOTE="sonicare"]

I suspect in 50 years, many people from third world countries will blame their status on China and India. It's a cycle that has been going on for quite some time. Whoever is top dog, they are the reason for all the world's problems.

Half-Way

im not trying to sound disrespectful, but people who know history know this is partly true..

Of course you cant blame every problem on the big countries, but there are definitely many problems caused by them.

[QUOTE="sonicare"]

I suspect in 50 years, many people from third world countries will blame their status on China and India. It's a cycle that has been going on for quite some time. Whoever is top dog, they are the reason for all the world's problems.

im not trying to sound disrespectful, but people who know history know this is partly true..

Of course you cant blame every problem on the big countries, but there are definitely many problems caused by them.

Any super power that goes by the principle "it's either us, or them." should never be allowed to become a super power at all. The US and China are no different when it comes to this argument. So I honestly don't care who get this number so long they fall eventually.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Half-Way"]

im not trying to sound disrespectful, but people who know history know this is partly true..

Of course you cant blame every problem on the big countries, but there are definitely many problems caused by them.

sonicare

hmm.. I think you are mistaking me for a country :P No actually the US was considered the moral authority for a long time by many many countries probably rightly so. It is ony natural.

Um, no. China is headed for a collapse so awe-inspiring.........well, it'll be big.

[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="Half-Way"]

please dont change this into a pointless argument about the USA.

You would post proof that the numbers really are correct, and that people would love to live in the USA.

I would post numbers showing that America is still nr. 1 on some of these negative aspects.

ect.

it wouldn't lead anywhere. It was a joke. Dont be too defensive.

Half-Way

i find it to be very funny actually :)

China is going to buckle under their own weight eventually. Their growth is artificial. Not to mention the massive real estate bubble they got brewing right now.

China's growth is the growth of a body-builder taking steriods, if you take my meaning.

KH-mixerX

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"] you made a piss poor attempt to put down the US..(which don't get me wrong..there's plenty of reasons too...just not this particular reason).....I called you on it......not defensive at all....LJS9502_basic

i find it to be very funny actually :)

its okey ;)

Um, no. China is headed for a collapse so awe-inspiring.........well, it'll be big.

789shadow

As soon as it happens we can finally see the end of these types of threads.

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Um, no. China is headed for a collapse so awe-inspiring.........well, it'll be big.

airshocker

As soon as it happens we can finally see the end of these types of threads.

you do realise it might take a few years :?

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Um, no. China is headed for a collapse so awe-inspiring.........well, it'll be big.

Half-Way

As soon as it happens we can finally see the end of these types of threads.

you do realise it might take a few years :?

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"] well at their current rate of growth they will surpass the US unless of course they stop growing for some reason.kuraimen

all bubbles must pop eventually. Especially rapidly expanding ones.

As for how the US will handle it...fine? Why wouldnt we handle it well?

#1 or #20, I really do not see the standard of living in the US changing all that much. We are experiencing one of the worst recessions in decades at the moment and the only people that got really screwed were people that bought houses when they should not have, and people who were irresponsible with their money, and maybe soem select jobs (i.e. education, government work, etc)

you do realise it might take a few years :?

Half-Way

And it will be oh so sweet when it happens.

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

As soon as it happens we can finally see the end of these types of threads.

Verge_6

you do realise it might take a few years :?

lmao, i dont think you two understand what im trying to point out here.

il make it simple ;). how long are you planing on staying on gamespot exactly?

My opinion is that there are way to many proud Americans on these forums to admit the poor shape the United States is in. To many people in denial, don't want to admit that China is rapidly overtaking us.

My opinion is that there are way to many proud Americans on these forums to admit the poor shape the United States is in. To many people in denial, don't want to admit that China is rapidly overtaking us.

MasterKingMP

well both countries have massive problems, but i guess its easy to ignore as long as you have money and live in the right neighborhood in either one of them :P

By nuking number one, duh.xaos

My opinion is that there are way to many proud Americans on these forums to admit the poor shape the United States is in. To many people in denial, don't want to admit that China is rapidly overtaking us.

MasterKingMP

[QUOTE="samuraiguns"]

gotta get to the more urban areas.Espada12

Gang related crime in big cities should not be representative of the entire country.