Human carbon emissions could delay ice age.Global warming is a blessing?

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#151 xscrapzx
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Talk to me when this stuff actually happens. I'm so tired of listening about it, yes lets keeps the enviroment clean because it makes sense to do so, not because we have a bunch of people who think doom and gloom will occur if not done.

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#152 CajunMadePunk
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I feel that we have no control over when the next ice age will come.
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#153 deactivated-59f03d6ce656b
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Talk to me when this stuff actually happens. I'm so tired of listening about it, yes lets keeps the enviroment clean because it makes sense to do so, not because we have a bunch of people who think doom and gloom will occur if not done.

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A bunch of scientists who have spent their lives working on these things, its probably a good idea to listen.

This is a map of predicted droughts. a -4 is the oklahoma dustbowl.

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TL: DR We're in trouble.

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A bunch of scientists who have spent their lives working on these things, its probably a good idea to listen.

This is a map of predicted droughts. a -4 is the oklahoma dustbowl.

TL: DR We're in trouble.

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Fake. It's not even on the internet, you had to upload it on imageshack.

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#156 deactivated-59f03d6ce656b
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[QUOTE="Person0"] A bunch of scientists who have spent their lives working on these things, its probably a good idea to listen.

This is a map of predicted droughts. a -4 is the oklahoma dustbowl.

TL: DR We're in trouble.

Nibroc420

Fake. It's not even on the internet, you had to upload it on imageshack.

Sure... http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2010/12/14/207198/southwest-drought-global-warmin/ Look at the bottom.
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#157 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Person0"] A bunch of scientists who have spent their lives working on these things, its probably a good idea to listen.

This is a map of predicted droughts. a -4 is the oklahoma dustbowl.

TL: DR We're in trouble.

Person0

Fake. It's not even on the internet, you had to upload it on imageshack.

Sure... http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2010/12/14/207198/southwest-drought-global-warmin/ Look at the bottom.

Oh i'm sorry, hosted by a website that is clearly biased, and asks for donations from it's followers. You another Terry Jones?
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#158 deactivated-59f03d6ce656b
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[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Fake. It's not even on the internet, you had to upload it on imageshack.

Nibroc420

Sure... http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2010/12/14/207198/southwest-drought-global-warmin/ Look at the bottom.

. Oh i'm sorry, hosted by a website that is clearly biased, and asks for donations from it's followers. You another Terry Jones?

The graphs come from University Corporation for Atmospheric Research (UCAR) which is Founded in 1960, UCAR is a nonprofit consortium of North American member universities, each of which grants doctoral degrees in the atmospheric and related sciences, plus an increasing number of international affiliates offering comparable degrees, and North American academic affiliates offering predoctoral degrees

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Person0"] Sure... http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2010/12/14/207198/southwest-drought-global-warmin/ Look at the bottom.Person0

. Oh i'm sorry, hosted by a website that is clearly biased, and asks for donations from it's followers. You another Terry Jones?

The graphs come from University Corporation for Atmospheric Research (UCAR) which is Founded in 1960, UCAR is a nonprofit consortium of North American member universities, each of which grants doctoral degrees in the atmospheric and related sciences, plus an increasing number of international affiliates offering comparable degrees, and North American academic affiliates offering predoctoral degrees

OHHH people who get paid to do this sort of propaganda. Like when the IPCC announced that that the glaciers in the Himalayan mountains would've completely melted now? Sounds like more unfounded BS for the sake of scaring the populous into "green" tech.
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] . Oh i'm sorry, hosted by a website that is clearly biased, and asks for donations from it's followers. You another Terry Jones?Nibroc420

The graphs come from University Corporation for Atmospheric Research (UCAR) which is Founded in 1960, UCAR is a nonprofit consortium of North American member universities, each of which grants doctoral degrees in the atmospheric and related sciences, plus an increasing number of international affiliates offering comparable degrees, and North American academic affiliates offering predoctoral degrees

OHHH people who get paid to do this sort of propaganda. Like when the IPCC announced that that the glaciers in the Himalayan mountains would've completely melted now? Sounds like more unfounded BS for the sake of scaring the populous into "green" tech.

Non-profit....... Where do you get your information because these people have hundreds of years of records and computer models supporting them... how about you?
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="Person0"] A bunch of scientists who have spent their lives working on these things, its probably a good idea to listen.

This is a map of predicted droughts. a -4 is the oklahoma dustbowl.

TL: DR We're in trouble.

Fake. It's not even on the internet, you had to upload it on imageshack.

If something isn't on the internet, it's fake?
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Person0"]

The graphs come from University Corporation for Atmospheric Research (UCAR) which is Founded in 1960, UCAR is a nonprofit consortium of North American member universities, each of which grants doctoral degrees in the atmospheric and related sciences, plus an increasing number of international affiliates offering comparable degrees, and North American academic affiliates offering predoctoral degrees

Person0

OHHH people who get paid to do this sort of propaganda. Like when the IPCC announced that that the glaciers in the Himalayan mountains would've completely melted now? Sounds like more unfounded BS for the sake of scaring the populous into "green" tech.

Non-profit....... Where do you get your information because these people have hundreds of years of records and computer models supporting them... how about you?

Records of tempatures?
Strange, we only started keeping track of things like that at the beginning of the 1900s.

But i'm sure with those "hundreds of years" they'll be able to explain the climate cycle of a 4 billion year old planet :roll:

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Records of tempatures?
Strange, we only started keeping track of things like that at the beginning of the 1900s.

But i'm sure with those "hundreds of years" they'll be able to explain the climate cycle of a 4 billion year old planet :roll:

Nibroc420

Not one major scientific institute refutes the claim of Global warming, not 1. There is no doubt if it is happening or not. It's happening and will profundly change life on this planet in the coming decades/centauries.

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Records of tempatures?
Strange, we only started keeping track of things like that at the beginning of the 1900s.

But i'm sure with those "hundreds of years" they'll be able to explain the climate cycle of a 4 billion year old planet :roll:

Person0

Not one major scientific institute refutes the claim of Global warming, not 1. There is no doubt if it is happening or not.

It's a documented fact that those who disagree with those institutes, never get jobs there.

You claim these scientists aren't doing it for the $$$, citing that they are "non profit" People who work for non-profits, still get paid. People who work in areas where their sole purpose is to prove something, usually try to stick to that goal. Disproving it would mean their area of research is pretty much useless, and they'd be out of a job.

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It's a documented fact that those who disagree with those institutes, never get jobs there.

You claim these scientists aren't doing it for the $$$, citing that they are "non profit" People who work for non-profits, still get paid. People who work in areas where their sole purpose is to prove something, usually try to stick to that goal. Disproving it would mean their area of research is pretty much useless, and they'd be out of a job.

Nibroc420

Their job is not to prove if global warming is real or not, its to see how the climate will change in the future. This guy's study was funded by Global Warming deniers and guess what....he agrees that global warming is happening. http://www.startribune.com/nation/132889988.html

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Records of tempatures?
Strange, we only started keeping track of things like that at the beginning of the 1900s.

But i'm sure with those "hundreds of years" they'll be able to explain the climate cycle of a 4 billion year old planet :roll:

Nibroc420
Someone's never heard of paleoclimatology.
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#167 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

Records of tempatures?
Strange, we only started keeping track of things like that at the beginning of the 1900s.

But i'm sure with those "hundreds of years" they'll be able to explain the climate cycle of a 4 billion year old planet :roll:

Engrish_Major

Someone's never heard of paleoclimatology.

I've heard of it. People looking at rocks/ice and going "Herp Derp, i know what the highs and lows for the Year 12AD were!"

It's got as much proof to it as astrology

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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

Records of tempatures?
Strange, we only started keeping track of things like that at the beginning of the 1900s.

But i'm sure with those "hundreds of years" they'll be able to explain the climate cycle of a 4 billion year old planet :roll:

Nibroc420

Someone's never heard of paleoclimatology.

I've heard of it. People looking at rocks/ice and going "Herp Derp, i know what the highs and lows for the Year 12AD were!"

It's got as much proof to it as astrology

Just stop trolling.

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#169 Engrish_Major
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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

Records of tempatures?
Strange, we only started keeping track of things like that at the beginning of the 1900s.

But i'm sure with those "hundreds of years" they'll be able to explain the climate cycle of a 4 billion year old planet :roll:

Nibroc420

Someone's never heard of paleoclimatology.

I've heard of it. People looking at rocks/ice and going "Herp Derp, i know what the highs and lows for the Year 12AD were!"

It's got as much proof to it as astrology

Hmm... you may have stumbled upon something that the scientists have overlooked! I recommend that you contact the scientific community with your findings and let them know that their methodology is flawed.
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#170 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"] Someone's never heard of paleoclimatology.Person0

I've heard of it. People looking at rocks/ice and going "Herp Derp, i know what the highs and lows for the Year 12AD were!"

It's got as much proof to it as astrology

Just stop trolling.

Trolling? I thought you were trolling, you can't seriously believe that site can you?
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#172 OrkHammer007
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Wut? When did I say that I'm ok with releasing cars that catch fire? Please quote me or stop putting words in my mouth.kuraimen

You've been saying it the entire thread: you would rather have people drive your version of an "ethical" product (a green vehicle that has a tendency to catch fire) than a safe one (MY version of an "ethical" product).

...or are you going to p***y out and claim that "that's not what I meant!"?

Ethics implies much more than just driving a green car. Nothing can be ethically acceptable if it is knowingly putting people's lives in danger, that's the whole point. The thing of the matter is that such a system will search for ethically acceptable solutions first rather than profitable acceptable solutions first which is what the current system does and, therefore, probabilistically speaking, the current would even put people in danger more often than an ethically based system since their focus is elsewhere.

P***ying out, then. Got it.

Oh... the current system is working quite well at weeding out the "unethical" products (except for Apple's s***). People who don't want to die just stop buying them, and the companies either stop making them, or go out of business. Just leave the f***ing system alone, accept that profit will drive the market until the Apocalypse, and you'll save yourself an ulcer or two.

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It's a documented fact that those who disagree with those institutes, never get jobs there.

You claim these scientists aren't doing it for the $$$, citing that they are "non profit" People who work for non-profits, still get paid. People who work in areas where their sole purpose is to prove something, usually try to stick to that goal. Disproving it would mean their area of research is pretty much useless, and they'd be out of a job.

Person0

Their job is not to prove if global warming is real or not, its to see how the climate will change in the future. This guy's study was funded by Global Warming deniers and guess what....he agrees that global warming is happening. http://www.startribune.com/nation/132889988.html

Of course it's real otherwise we would be dead now.