lol Media newbies posting above. =p And no, I can't really take him seriously. Not only is he in freaking orange, but he also gives non-anime watchers another reason to generalize. Believe it! (Yes I just did it, so what?)
He has pretty bland character design. I've never seen the show so I can't say anything more than physical appearances but he kind of looks like someone looked at Goku and said "make his uniform into a jumpsuit and make his hair blond and less spiky"
Pretty much this. Its so over-the-top, and I say that as a fan of Marvel comics. Thats weird. Marvel Comics are like super over the top compared to some anime.
Pretty much this. Its so over-the-top, and I say that as a fan of Marvel comics. Thats weird. Marvel Comics are like super over the top compared to some anime. That would be because a lot of non-anime watchers think animes are all like Naruto and One Piece.
Pretty much this. Its so over-the-top, and I say that as a fan of Marvel comics. Thats weird. Marvel Comics are like super over the top compared to some anime. I'll translate: he CLEARLY forgot that Marvel Comics and shows are about the same if not worse. Right, Phoenix saga?
[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="Zerocrossings"][QUOTE="clayron"] Pretty much this. Its so over-the-top, and I say that as a fan of Marvel comics. Thats weird. Marvel Comics are like super over the top compared to some anime. That would be because a lot of non-anime watchers think animes are all like Naruto and One Piece. Hey hey now don't bash One Piece.
[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="Zerocrossings"][QUOTE="clayron"] Pretty much this. Its so over-the-top, and I say that as a fan of Marvel comics. Thats weird. Marvel Comics are like super over the top compared to some anime. That would be because a lot of non-anime watchers think animes are all like Naruto and One Piece. I have watched several animes, and, yes, they all seem to be very much over the top. Have I seen every anime? No. So I am speaking from the sample I have seen.
[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="Zerocrossings"][QUOTE="clayron"] Pretty much this. Its so over-the-top, and I say that as a fan of Marvel comics. Thats weird. Marvel Comics are like super over the top compared to some anime. That would be because a lot of non-anime watchers think animes are all like Naruto and One Piece. Yeah. They always ALWAYS contradict themselves in one way or another when trying to bash anime. (Be it jokingly or seriously)
[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"][QUOTE="Zerocrossings"][QUOTE="clayron"] Pretty much this. Its so over-the-top, and I say that as a fan of Marvel comics. Thats weird. Marvel Comics are like super over the top compared to some anime. I'll translate: he CLEARLY forgot that Marvel Comics and shows are about the same if not worse. Right, Phoenix saga? I didn't forget anything. I never stated marvel comics weren't over the top...I reference it in my original post. I am saying that I feel anime are even more so and I do not really enjoy watching them.
[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"] Yeah. They always ALWAYS contradict themselves in one way or another when trying to bash anime. (Be it jokingly or seriously) :lol: No one has contradicted themselves.
[QUOTE="clayron"][QUOTE="Symphonycometh"] Yeah. They always ALWAYS contradict themselves in one way or another when trying to bash anime. (Be it jokingly or seriously) :lol: No one has contradicted themselves. As someone who actually likes both sides of the fence, I can safely say that what's "over-the-top" to you baffles me. As a marvel fan, you should be totally aware of the fact that X-Men TAS feeds on drama and crazy/awkward screaming. And occasionally corny dialogue. Which I consider only beaten by the likes of Dragonball Z in terms of "over-the-top". I don't know what anime you've been watching, but you've sampled pretty umm...not well.
Pretty much this. Its so over-the-top, and I say that as a fan of Marvel comics. Thats weird. Marvel Comics are like super over the top compared to some anime. indeed the irony.
[QUOTE="clayron"][QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="Zerocrossings"] Thats weird. Marvel Comics are like super over the top compared to some anime. That would be because a lot of non-anime watchers think animes are all like Naruto and One Piece. I have watched several animes, and, yes, they all seem to be very much over the top. Have I seen every anime? No. So I am speaking from the sample I have seen. I can say the same for comic books. If I read, say, Superman, Iron Man, Captain America, and stuff like that, I would say it's just bunch of ridiculous American heroism drawn on paper with occasional emotions here and there, but if I read things like Batman, V for Vendetta, Sin City, Watchmen and stuff like that, I actually see more from the comic books. Same with anime. You watch, say Bleach, Naruto, and One Piece, you are going to have an impression all animes are like that. But once you get to watch Monster, Darker Than Black, or Evangelion, you will see huge differences.
Cowboy Bebop is the only kinda anime for me, there's no magic, no super duper overpowered enhanced super beings of awesome, it's normal people with guns..in space.
[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"] As someone who actually likes both sides of the fence, I can safely say that what's "over-the-top" to you baffles me. As a marvel fan, you should be totally aware of the fact that X-Men TAS feeds on drama and crazy/awkward screaming. And occasionally corny dialogue. Which I consider only beaten by the likes of Dragonball Z in terms of "over-the-top". I don't know what anime you've been watching, but you've sampled pretty umm...not well. Ok, with anime, at least from the television series, the constant, and often, useless dialogue that doesn't do much in terms of progression. Are comics guilty of this? Of course. Comics keep the dialogue corny and cheesy as well, and for the most part that's not the issue. Its the sheer amount of useless dialogue you encounter in anime that make them less than enjoyable for me. Then you have the endless episodic recycling that always, for some odd reason, need to reference back to a previous episode, some times more than once, for the purpose of explaining something that has already been explained. Then you have the constant "I must prove myself to everyone because I am down and out/or because I am an outcast" mentality. Every anime I have seen seems to revolve around this common theme. Its not just the main character, its almost every character has to explain why they are fighting for whatever they are fighting for every single time they are fighting. Then you have the "special move" that no one seems to use until the battle has gone on for an eternity, but this one move guarantees the victor of the hero and his/her team. But, before the special move there must be a lot, and I mean a lot, of talking or even filler episodes. Filler episodes. Seriously. Filler Episodes bug the hell out of me. As a fan on anime I am sure they bug the **** out of you as well. The drama is what makes these shows exciting, and I have never had an issue with such things. But its the way animes play out that make them so unenjoyable for me.
[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"]As someone who actually likes both sides of the fence, I can safely say that what's "over-the-top" to you baffles me. As a marvel fan, you should be totally aware of the fact that X-Men TAS feeds on drama and crazy/awkward screaming. And occasionally corny dialogue. Which I consider only beaten by the likes of Dragonball Z in terms of "over-the-top". I don't know what anime you've been watching, but you've sampled pretty umm...not well.clayron
Ok, with anime, at least from the television series, the constant, and often, useless dialogue that doesn't do much in terms of progression. Are comics guilty of this? Of course. Comics keep the dialogue corny and cheesy as well, and for the most part that's not the issue. Its the sheer amount of useless dialogue you encounter in anime that make them less than enjoyable for me. Then you have the endless episodic recycling that always, for some odd reason, need to reference back to a previous episode, some times more than once, for the purpose of explaining something that has already been explained. Then you have the constant "I must prove myself to everyone because I am down and out/or because I am an outcast" mentality. Every anime I have seen seems to revolve around this common theme. Its not just the main character, its almost every character has to explain why they are fighting for whatever they are fighting for every single time they are fighting. Then you have the "special move" that no one seems to use until the battle has gone on for an eternity, but this one move guarantees the victor of the hero and his/her team. But, before the special move there must be a lot, and I mean a lot, of talking or even filler episodes. Filler episodes. Seriously. Filler Episodes bug the hell out of me. As a fan on anime I am sure they bug the **** out of you as well. The drama is what makes these shows exciting, and I have never had an issue with such things. But its the way animes play out that make them so unenjoyable for me. See? people don't read my post like, ever. :cry:
[QUOTE="funsohng"] See? people don't read my post like, ever. :cry: There, there. I did read your post. Not before I posted my comment, but I did read it. And I have not seen those animes, so I can not speak to those. But, from those I have seen they all have characteristics highlighted in my wall of text
[QUOTE="clayron"][QUOTE="Symphonycometh"] As someone who actually likes both sides of the fence, I can safely say that what's "over-the-top" to you baffles me. As a marvel fan, you should be totally aware of the fact that X-Men TAS feeds on drama and crazy/awkward screaming. And occasionally corny dialogue. Which I consider only beaten by the likes of Dragonball Z in terms of "over-the-top". I don't know what anime you've been watching, but you've sampled pretty umm...not well. Ok, with anime, at least from the television series, the constant, and often, useless dialogue that doesn't do much in terms of progression. Are comics guilty of this? Of course. Comics keep the dialogue corny and cheesy as well, and for the most part that's not the issue. Its the sheer amount of useless dialogue you encounter in anime that make them less than enjoyable for me. Then you have the endless episodic recycling that always, for some odd reason, need to reference back to a previous episode, some times more than once, for the purpose of explaining something that has already been explained. Then you have the constant "I must prove myself to everyone because I am down and out/or because I am an outcast" mentality. Every anime I have seen seems to revolve around this common theme. Its not just the main character, its almost every character has to explain why they are fighting for whatever they are fighting for every single time they are fighting. Then you have the "special move" that no one seems to use until the battle has gone on for an eternity, but this one move guarantees the victor of the hero and his/her team. But, before the special move there must be a lot, and I mean a lot, of talking or even filler episodes. Filler episodes. Seriously. Filler Episodes bug the hell out of me. As a fan on anime I am sure they bug the **** out of you as well. The drama is what makes these shows exciting, and I have never had an issue with such things. But its the way animes play out that make them so unenjoyable for me. Well sir, you just explained to me the very thing I hate about mainstream anime that you can find on Adult Swim. Which is...a umm...poor sampling.
I can't Naruto serious because I do not care for the story and most of the characters.
clayron
I may not have liked Naruto, as a character and a series, but I did enjoy Shikamuru and Neji (?)I know exactly what you're feeling with what you said about the anime's you've seen, but i think you should check out Black Lagoon or Cowboy Bebop, they're my two favorite, western influenced anime's, might have a cliche or two, but they generally flip the formula around for a realistic tale that isn't completely obscene about avenging their spiritual ghost ancestors that haunt their swords :P
[QUOTE="clayron"][QUOTE="funsohng"]See? people don't read my post like, ever. :cry: There, there. I did read your post. Not before I posted my comment, but I did read it. And I have not seen those animes, so I can not speak to those. But, from those I have seen they all have characteristics highlighted in my wall of text well the animes you mentioned are the animes I don't like watching. So I agree with you. The difference about comick book fans and anime fans is that I haven't seen a lot of comic book fans who only like comic books with shallow stories (not to mention that one series, say Batman, can be interpreted differently through various artist's and writer's perspective), but there are just tons of anime fans who only watches Naruto, One Piece, Code Geass, Death Note, and Bleach and think they know everything about anime. That really bugs the hell out of me.
[QUOTE="clayron"][QUOTE="funsohng"] That would be because a lot of non-anime watchers think animes are all like Naruto and One Piece.funsohng
I have watched several animes, and, yes, they all seem to be very much over the top. Have I seen every anime? No. So I am speaking from the sample I have seen. I can say the same for comic books. If I read, say, Superman, Iron Man, Captain America, and stuff like that, I would say it's just bunch of ridiculous American heroism drawn on paper with occasional emotions here and there, but if I read things like Batman, V for Vendetta, Sin City, Watchmen and stuff like that, I actually see more from the comic books. Same with anime. You watch, say Bleach, Naruto, and One Piece, you are going to have an impression all animes are like that. But once you get to watch Monster, Darker Than Black, or Evangelion, you will see huge differences.
I know exactly what you're feeling with what you said about the anime's you've seen, but i think you should check out Black Lagoon or Cowboy Bebop, they're my two favorite, western influenced anime's, might have a cliche or two, but they generally flip the formula around for a realistic tale that isn't completely obscene about avenging their spiritual ghost ancestors that haunt their swords :PFrostyPhantasm
Okay, for the sake of keeping an open mind, I will take a look at both of those animes. And if I enjoy them I will create a thread expressing how much I enjoy them.
[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"]I know exactly what you're feeling with what you said about the anime's you've seen, but i think you should check out Black Lagoon or Cowboy Bebop, they're my two favorite, western influenced anime's, might have a cliche or two, but they generally flip the formula around for a realistic tale that isn't completely obscene about avenging their spiritual ghost ancestors that haunt their swords :Pclayron
Okay, for the sake of keeping an open mind, I will take a look at both of those animes. And if I enjoy them I will create a thread expressing how much I enjoy them. Rest assured they should at least be a fresh take for you, there is no robots in either :P
I can't Naruto serious because I do not care for the story and most of the characters.
FrostyPhantasm
I may not have liked Naruto, as a character and a series, but I did enjoy Shikamuru and Neji (?)I know exactly what you're feeling with what you said about the anime's you've seen, but i think you should check out Black Lagoon or Cowboy Bebop, they're my two favorite, western influenced anime's, might have a cliche or two, but they generally flip the formula around for a realistic tale that isn't completely obscene about avenging their spiritual ghost ancestors that haunt their swords :P *Fails to keep mouth shut* You know, I had issues with Black Lagoon. :P Then again, I'm really spoiled on the crazy awesome anime no one seems to watch and/or know about. :cry:
[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"][QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="clayron"] I may not have liked Naruto, as a character and a series, but I did enjoy Shikamuru and Neji (?)I know exactly what you're feeling with what you said about the anime's you've seen, but i think you should check out Black Lagoon or Cowboy Bebop, they're my two favorite, western influenced anime's, might have a cliche or two, but they generally flip the formula around for a realistic tale that isn't completely obscene about avenging their spiritual ghost ancestors that haunt their swords :P *Fails to keep mouth shut* You know, I had issues with Black Lagoon. :P Then again, I'm really spoiled on the crazy awesome anime no one seems to watch and/or know about. :cry: What problems did you have with it? I thought the children assassin plot line was a tinsy bit far fetched, but other than that i had no qualms.
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