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#51 Apathetic_Prick
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One, it's a matter of mass versus gravity.  Two, we couldn't be any closer because there's either be a collision with venus or a collision with the sun because we'd get pulled in.  Which is still a matter of gravity...

But basically, when our solar system was being formed, as enough dust collected to create the planets that are there, they got pulled in only so far to the sun, at which point I'm assuming (but not 100% sure) that they stopped collecting cosmic dust and actually start forming their atmospheres - or I could be wrong, everything may have been forming along the way.  Everyone calls it a cosmic fluke, but really, it isn't.  The same thing happens in every solar system in the universe, just not all planets can bear life :P

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#52 luke1889
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I don't understand why so many people have such difficulty in comprehending the thought that the universe and everything within it is the way it is...because that's just how things have happened.

Is that really such a mind blowing concept?  :?

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#53 CheddarLimbo
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Why is the sun 93 million miles away from the Earth?

I challenge anyone of you to give me a straight logical answer. And not a wall of text, please. The question was why therefore the responce should begin with because.

elmo90

 

First, let's correct the phrasing of the question - Why is the Earth 93 milllion miles from the sun?

The answer to that question is that the relative sizes of the Earth and Sun create a gravitational pull that causes the Earth to orbit the Sun at exactly this distance.

Our form of life is what thrives at this environmental combination/level, so that's what formed on Earth.  If the planet were hotter, or colder, or had a different kind of atmosphere, then some other form of life would have thrived instead. 

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#54 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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Well, because the universe formed that way :?

oh, and we're not at a perfect spot.....if we were, why do we have winter and summer? and why do the Earth tip in one direction? It's not even close to "perfect".

(actually, there's no such thing as a perfect spot)

What's your religious answer?.....Because God put us here? :roll:

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#55 luke1889
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...If the planet were hotter, or colder, or had a different kind of atmosphere, then some other form of life would have thrived instead. 

CheddarLimbo

Or there'd be no life at all.  ;)

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#56 saruman354
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That's how God made it.
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#57 Jowell91
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Because I made it like that.
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#58 deactivated-612079a2c3358
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Because it is.
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#59 Axed54
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Why ask why!
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#60 CheddarLimbo
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[QUOTE="CheddarLimbo"]...If the planet were hotter, or colder, or had a different kind of atmosphere, then some other form of life would have thrived instead.

luke1889

Or there'd be no life at all. ;)

 

Or a life form that is so foriegn to the carbon based life that we know that we wouldn't even recognize it as "life". 

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#61 qetuo6
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Because out of the billions of planets out there, one of them was bound to be at a distance that could support life. Unless it's just a coincidence that life spawned on a planet perfect for supporting life.
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#62 bminns
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Why is the sun 93 million miles away from the Earth?

I challenge anyone of you to give me a straight logical answer. And not a wall of text, please. The question was why therefore the responce should begin with because.

elmo90

because god made it that way, he created everything in the whole universe! discuss. :P 

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#63 elmo90
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I asked why, not how. Most of you who gave scientific answers said it was because of the gravitational pull. That's a "how" answer. And a whole many more "how" questions follow that that you cannot answer, even with your superior human science. The only logical reason why we are here on this Earth is because we were meant to be. Looking at our surroundings, looking at the environment we were set in, it's obvious to see that this could not possibly have happened by chance. If the Earth were 92 million miles away, we would burn up. If it were 94, we would freeze. So let me ask this next question- are we just extremely lucky? Or is man god, in that we were powerful enough to alter our environment to suit our living?
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#64 slimdog363
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because you should do your own homework
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#65 jerami
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Since (being grammatically correct) a sentence cannot begin with the word because, I will reply with this... If the earth was close to the sun, our planet's temperature would be so warm that it would be unsuitable for any life, let alone intelligent life. Evolving life on a planet requires very perfect conditions that are held down by many constraints, the earth was one of the few lucky ones to succeed.
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#66 qetuo6
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I asked why, not how. Most of you who gave scientific answers said it was because of the gravitational pull. That's a "how" answer. And a whole many more "how" questions follow that that you cannot answer, even with your superior human science. The only logical reason why we are here on this Earth is because we were meant to be. Looking at our surroundings, looking at the environment we were set in, it's obvious to see that this could not possibly have happened by chance. If the Earth were 92 million miles away, we would burn up. If it were 94, we would freeze. So let me ask this next question- are we just extremely lucky? Or is man god, in that we were powerful enough to alter our environment to suit our living?elmo90

Were are not lucky, lucky would mean it was a coincidence. It's not. This planet was suitable for life to spawn, so life spawned. It's simple cause-and-effect.

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#67 g-unit248
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of course it is because of science, all of you bible bangers out the fail to realize how massive and random the universe is, just last week they came out with a big report saying how there are numerous galaxies throughout the universe like ours with planets like earth (recently discovered with new technology), oh wait i forgot, all the scientists are are atheistic jerks working under political agendas :roll:
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#68 sthadji
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Because Earth is at an optimum distance for life to exist I guess. The question should not be why the Sun is 93 billion miles away from the Earth but why we are 93 billion miles away from the sun.
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I really love that arguement. The world looks so perfect, it couldn't happen by chance. So I suppose that every time there's snow falling God itself creates every single snow-crystal, or whatever it's called in English? Though that would explain why God doesn't do anything else, it's too busy with the snow.

Really, the whole "I don't see how it could be done, God must have did it" arguement is so empty. So if you're not a programmer, then any program was made by God? If you can't cook, any meal is sent to your plate by divine grace? Just because your mind can't encompass the idea of coincidence creating all this doesn't mean it was made by something else.

As for Earth being one astronomical unit away from the sun, there really is no why to it. It's just that out of all the planets in all the star systems in the universe, this planet happened to be in a good spot to support life. Scientists are discovering other planets that might be able to support life even now. It's all random chance that we're on Earth. If it wasn't Earth it would be another planet in another star system in another galaxy with another sentient race asking the same questions, and there might be a few of those as well even now. How are you to know otherwise?

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of course it is because of science, all of you bible bangers out the fail to realize how massive and random the universe is, just last week they came out with a big report saying how there are numerous galaxies throughout the universe like ours with planets like earth (recently discovered with new technology), oh wait i forgot, all the scientists are are atheistic jerks working under political agendas :roll:g-unit248

What was the point in that?  Just because someone is a Christian, doesn't mean they believe that life can't exist elewhere.  Don't stereotype people.

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because I'm too hawt for the sun to handle...8)jakeboudville
I'd support this theory8) QFT!
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I asked why, not how. Most of you who gave scientific answers said it was because of the gravitational pull. That's a "how" answer. And a whole many more "how" questions follow that that you cannot answer, even with your superior human science. The only logical reason why we are here on this Earth is because we were meant to be. Looking at our surroundings, looking at the environment we were set in, it's obvious to see that this could not possibly have happened by chance. If the Earth were 92 million miles away, we would burn up. If it were 94, we would freeze. So let me ask this next question- are we just extremely lucky? Or is man god, in that we were powerful enough to alter our environment to suit our living?elmo90

now you're just trying to be smart. like a poster already said; is it that difficult to believe/think/understand that we're just here. there's not neccessarily a reason. although, admittedly Kant did say humans will never stop trying to understand god/soul/world but we will never manage to. you're certainly proof of the first part of his claim.

but being a believer, for me the reason we're here is because god put us here. why? god knows... literally. and all those scientific explinations on why we're that specific distance away is not how, it IS why. the how would be the 'put her for a reason/random events occuring that led to that'. and besides that's 'why are humans here' has sod all to do with the sun. god; do you even understand your own wording?

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#73 g-unit248
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[QUOTE="g-unit248"]of course it is because of science, all of you bible bangers out the fail to realize how massive and random the universe is, just last week they came out with a big report saying how there are numerous galaxies throughout the universe like ours with planets like earth (recently discovered with new technology), oh wait i forgot, all the scientists are are atheistic jerks working under political agendas :roll:BadAndy642

What was the point in that?  Just because someone is a Christian, doesn't mean they believe that life can't exist elewhere.  Don't stereotype people.

the point was to support the randomness of the universe, im a Christian myself, and that by no means was meant to stereotype anyone, but i do like to use logic along with my beliefs, saying "because god put it there like that" just doesnt cut it for me.

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#74 CptJape
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[QUOTE="BadAndy642"]

[QUOTE="g-unit248"]of course it is because of science, all of you bible bangers out the fail to realize how massive and random the universe is, just last week they came out with a big report saying how there are numerous galaxies throughout the universe like ours with planets like earth (recently discovered with new technology), oh wait i forgot, all the scientists are are atheistic jerks working under political agendas :roll:g-unit248

What was the point in that?  Just because someone is a Christian, doesn't mean they believe that life can't exist elewhere.  Don't stereotype people.

the point was to support the randomness of the universe, im a Christian myself, and that by no means was meant to stereotype anyone, but i do like to use logic along with my beliefs, saying "because god put it there like that" just doesnt cut it for me.

wow; that's a combination i haven't heard before. actually very good! thumbs up :D

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My guess is because that's just how things ended up.
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[QUOTE="BadAndy642"]

[QUOTE="g-unit248"]of course it is because of science, all of you bible bangers out the fail to realize how massive and random the universe is, just last week they came out with a big report saying how there are numerous galaxies throughout the universe like ours with planets like earth (recently discovered with new technology), oh wait i forgot, all the scientists are are atheistic jerks working under political agendas :roll:g-unit248

What was the point in that?  Just because someone is a Christian, doesn't mean they believe that life can't exist elewhere.  Don't stereotype people.

the point was to support the randomness of the universe, im a Christian myself, and that by no means was meant to stereotype anyone, but i do like to use logic along with my beliefs, saying "because god put it there like that" just doesnt cut it for me.

That's fine, but your first post was very stereotypical atheist material. That is how it came across.

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#77 Witchsight
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OK.. so the answer youll accept is Because jebus put it there?

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Why is the sun 93 million miles away from the Earth?

I challenge anyone of you to give me a straight logical answer. And not a wall of text, please. The question was why therefore the responce should begin with because. 

elmo90

Here is your answer if you are religious: God wanted it to be 93 million miles away from the sun

If you aren't religious: The dust decided to collect 93 million miles from the sun.

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#79 dhyce
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It's an extremely low probability that planets will fall under the suitable living conditions of Earth.

But in that very sentence lies the "why."

It's a probability, so thusly, for this statistic to work; there must be planets which fall under these suitable conditions. Even if it's 1 in 10,000 planets, of course that 1 still occasionally pops up. And so here we are, a completely simplistic probability to understand.

We are here, we are capable of observing the universe, we see many other planets unsuitable for life, but a few almost meeting Earth's standards. So it's incredibly easy to see "why" Earth supports life. From the observations we have made, it is a condition that rarely occurs, but will occur.

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[QUOTE="g-unit248"]of course it is because of science, all of you bible bangers out the fail to realize how massive and random the universe is, just last week they came out with a big report saying how there are numerous galaxies throughout the universe like ours with planets like earth (recently discovered with new technology), oh wait i forgot, all the scientists are are atheistic jerks working under political agendas :roll:BadAndy642

What was the point in that? Just because someone is a Christian, doesn't mean they believe that life can't exist elewhere. Don't stereotype people.

Yeah, God, all powerful and all, I'm pretty sure he could put life anywhere he wants to. There are over 50 billion galaxies in the known universe after all.
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#81 Darthmatt
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Oh, the answer is density.

Solid planets formed closer to the sun because the density of the materials they are made of. When the sun formed, heaver atoms like iron, copper, carbon...etc stayed closer to the the sun as they cooled and formed planets. The various gases that form our Giant brothers collected farther from the sun because the gases were less dense. Jupiter for example is mostly Hydrogen and Helium where the Earth is mostly silica and heavy metals.

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#82 SpaceMoose
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Why?  Why are the other planets the distances that they are from the sun?  Why are atoms make up of protons, neutrons, and electrons?  Why is the speed of light what it is?  That's just the way it is.

If your question is meant to carry the implication of intelligent design (and I'm not saying it is), I would say it is a faulty argument, for it looks at it the wrong way.

If there were a million planets within a given volume, and only two of them were capable of supporting life, then it would be a strange argument to say, "Ah hah, isn't it funny that those 2 planets just happen to have the right conditions for supporting life?"  No, that's just statistics.  If you are even able to question such things in the first place, then you necessarily happen to be living in one of the few places with life-supporting conditions.  Of course, we really don't know just how many planets out there could support "life" as we know it, and likely never will.

Also, I'd like to add that the distance of "mile" is a totally arbitrary one.  Pretty much all measurement units are arbitrary in some way.

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Here's a thought... Maybe God and science are intertwined.  Maybe God used this "Big Bang Theory" to create our solar system.  Maybe evolution does exist, and that's what God used to create man.  Maybe the whole "created Adam from dust" thing was just taken too literally.  If you think about it, life did originate from dust, so to speak, something about minerals in a primordial soup hit by lightning thing.  Eventually, that life evolved into man.  I think anyone who believes God just whirled a could of dust in the air and POOF Adam appeared are obviously taking the Bible too literally.
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Because Stone Cold said so:|

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#85 JJ4545
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Because it just is.

This time that's actually the right answer :). 

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#86 Darthmatt
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Here's a thought... Maybe God and science are intertwined. Maybe God used this "Big Bang Theory" to create our solar system. Maybe evolution does exist, and that's what God used to create man. Maybe the whole "created Adam from dust" thing was just taken too literally. If you think about it, life did originate from dust, so to speak, something about minerals in a primordial soup hit by lightning thing. Eventually, that life evolved into man. I think anyone who believes God just whirled a could of dust in the air and POOF Adam appeared are obviously taking the Bible too literally.JustPlainLucas
IMO, yes. Denying God the ability to create a biological system, such as evolution, only puts limits on what God is capable of. If God is all powerful, we need to accept he created natural laws that operate independently for a reason we do not control. We need to stop putting limitations on what is possible just so some people can sleep better at night thinking we didn't once evolve from a lower species.
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*insert smart comment here* I don't have time for this :|
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#88 alex1889
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[QUOTE="Hallenbeck77"]

Because every time someone touches themselves in an naughty way, the sun drifts further away from the Earth.  Case closed.

 

JustPlainLucas

That theory is disproven.  Had it been true, we'd be a planet of ice by now.

hehehehe, ehehehe
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[QUOTE="elmo90"]I asked why, not how. Most of you who gave scientific answers said it was because of the gravitational pull. That's a "how" answer. And a whole many more "how" questions follow that that you cannot answer, even with your superior human science. The only logical reason why we are here on this Earth is because we were meant to be. Looking at our surroundings, looking at the environment we were set in, it's obvious to see that this could not possibly have happened by chance. If the Earth were 92 million miles away, we would burn up. If it were 94, we would freeze. So let me ask this next question- are we just extremely lucky? Or is man god, in that we were powerful enough to alter our environment to suit our living?qetuo6

Were are not lucky, lucky would mean it was a coincidence. It's not. This planet was suitable for life to spawn, so life spawned. It's simple cause-and-effect.

Life spawned.

That's like saying "a baby bore". Of what?

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#90 Vax45
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Why is the sun 93 million miles away from the Earth?

elmo90

It's simple.  The sun is all the way over there, and the Earth is all the way over here. 

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Because if it was 92,999,999 miles away, it would be one mile too close. :|JustPlainLucas
The Earth isn't in a fixed position as it orbits.:|
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#92 elmo90
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Here's a thought... Maybe God and science are intertwined. Maybe God used this "Big Bang Theory" to create our solar system. Maybe evolution does exist, and that's what God used to create man. Maybe the whole "created Adam from dust" thing was just taken too literally. If you think about it, life did originate from dust, so to speak, something about minerals in a primordial soup hit by lightning thing. Eventually, that life evolved into man. I think anyone who believes God just whirled a could of dust in the air and POOF Adam appeared are obviously taking the Bible too literally.JustPlainLucas

Perhaps that is so. I do not believe that God and science are intertwined; reason being that it makes God and science equals, as is only in the eyes of humans. I believe 100% in science, but only as a tool which we use to study God's creation. To our eyes, God is a part of science. But from untied eyes, science is just another creation to help explain God. 

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#93 elmo90
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[QUOTE="elmo90"]

Why is the sun 93 million miles away from the Earth?

Vax45

It's simple. The sun is all the way over there, and the Earth is all the way over here.

Thats called rewording the question; not giving a reason.
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[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"]Because if it was 92,999,999 miles away, it would be one mile too close. :|CptJSparrow
The Earth isn't in a fixed position as it orbits.:|

Sarcasm detector broken?  Or is my sarcasm detector detector broken?  :?

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#95 JustPlainLucas
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[QUOTE="Vax45"][QUOTE="elmo90"]

Why is the sun 93 million miles away from the Earth?

elmo90

It's simple. The sun is all the way over there, and the Earth is all the way over here.

Thats called rewording the question; not giving a reason.

That's called not recognizing a joke, or is my sarcasm detector broken again?

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#96 CptJSparrow
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[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"]Because if it was 92,999,999 miles away, it would be one mile too close. :|JustPlainLucas

The Earth isn't in a fixed position as it orbits.:|

Sarcasm detector broken? Or is my sarcasm detector detector broken? :?

Could be.:|
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#97 elmo90
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[QUOTE="elmo90"][QUOTE="Vax45"][QUOTE="elmo90"]

Why is the sun 93 million miles away from the Earth?

JustPlainLucas

It's simple. The sun is all the way over there, and the Earth is all the way over here.

Thats called rewording the question; not giving a reason.

That's called not recognizing a joke, or is my sarcasm detector broken again?

In all honesty I think it is. Nearly all the responses have been as blunt as that, in a non-sarcastic way.
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#98 Vax45
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That's called not recognizing a joke, or is my sarcasm detector broken again?

JustPlainLucas

Okay, does the TC want the full blown answer?

The Sun wasn't actually a planet, it was a bunch of Hydrogen scattered in a nebula millions of years ago.  The nebula orbited the Black Hole located in the center of the Milky Way galaxy, causing all the Hydrogen and other elements to start rotatating and rotating, ultimately fusing together to form a planet that we now know as the Sun.  The gravitational pull from the Sun started to pull other elements together.  Just as the Sun started to fuse together from the Black Hole, the elements gathering around the sun started to fuse together.  The particles being pulled towards the sun were already in motion, so instead of crashing into the sun, they started to orbit AROUND the Sun.  The particles, just as the Sun, started to fuse together to form a planet.  They include Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, Uranus, and Pluto.

That's why the Earth is 93 million miles away from the Sun. 

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#99 qetuo6
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[QUOTE="elmo90"]I asked why, not how. Most of you who gave scientific answers said it was because of the gravitational pull. That's a "how" answer. And a whole many more "how" questions follow that that you cannot answer, even with your superior human science. The only logical reason why we are here on this Earth is because we were meant to be. Looking at our surroundings, looking at the environment we were set in, it's obvious to see that this could not possibly have happened by chance. If the Earth were 92 million miles away, we would burn up. If it were 94, we would freeze. So let me ask this next question- are we just extremely lucky? Or is man god, in that we were powerful enough to alter our environment to suit our living?elmo90

Were are not lucky, lucky would mean it was a coincidence. It's not. This planet was suitable for life to spawn, so life spawned. It's simple cause-and-effect.

Life spawned.

That's like saying "a baby bore". Of what?

WTF? It's nothing like saying that, you just feel like causing arguments. And, due to my boredom, I'm participating in the argument. Cause-and-effect.

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#100 elmo90
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[QUOTE="elmo90"][QUOTE="qetuo6"]

[QUOTE="elmo90"]I asked why, not how. Most of you who gave scientific answers said it was because of the gravitational pull. That's a "how" answer. And a whole many more "how" questions follow that that you cannot answer, even with your superior human science. The only logical reason why we are here on this Earth is because we were meant to be. Looking at our surroundings, looking at the environment we were set in, it's obvious to see that this could not possibly have happened by chance. If the Earth were 92 million miles away, we would burn up. If it were 94, we would freeze. So let me ask this next question- are we just extremely lucky? Or is man god, in that we were powerful enough to alter our environment to suit our living?qetuo6

Were are not lucky, lucky would mean it was a coincidence. It's not. This planet was suitable for life to spawn, so life spawned. It's simple cause-and-effect.

Life spawned.

That's like saying "a baby bore". Of what?

WTF? It's nothing like saying that, you just feel like causing arguments. And, due to my boredom, I'm participating in the argument. Cause-and-effect.

What is the cause? The only thing you've given is that "the planet was sutable for life, and that's why it happened". It is against the laws of nature something to happen with no cause. The analogy I gave is perfectly relavent, as it is almost the exact same scenario.