I feel like having this debate again: Is cheesecake a pie or a cake?

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#51 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]It's a pie.....and it is misnamed.KrunkMastaX
Then why the bloody hell isnt it called "CheesePie"?

Cause it's misnamed. But in the culinary world....it's cIassified as a pie...not a cake.
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#52 krunkmastax
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[QUOTE="KrunkMastaX"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]It's a pie.....and it is misnamed.LJS9502_basic
Then why the bloody hell isnt it called "CheesePie"?

Cause it's misnamed. But in the culinary world....it's cIassified as a pie...not a cake.

Who misnamed it?
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#53 MagikarpSplash
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I voted cake just to tie things up at 22 votes each. 8)
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#54 WestSideAzn
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It's Cheese!
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#55 TAMKFan
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Pie. If "cake" wasn't in the name, I don't think anyone would consider it a cake.
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#56 X360PS3AMD05
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It's a pie which fits into the bare......backwards world we live in.
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#57 AzzoLovesBirdy
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Cake otherwise it would be called cheese pie.

mrbojangles25

yea, but you order "jumbo shrimp" at a restuarant and theyre still pretty small. I expect anything with the title of "jumbo" to be at least as big as my hand...but no...those jumbo shrimps are a few grams larger than just plain ol' shrimps

If you're going to use examples for your argument theres an easier, more obvious example; Is a tomato a vegetable? No, it's a fruit. As much as I'd like it to be a cake - 'cause I like cake - I can't deny that it is a pie.

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#58 bloodling
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If you're going to use examples for your argument theres an easier, more obvious example; Is a tomato a vegetable? No, it's a fruit. As much as I'd like it to be a cake - 'cause I like cake - I can't deny that it is a pie.

AzzoLovesBirdy

I hate to repeat myself but:

Pie: A layer cake having cream, custard, or jelly filling. So if a pie can be a cake, why can't a cake be a pie?

I mean, just type cheesecake and chocolate cake in google... They are both cakes.

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#59 topsemag55
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I agree, it is a pie. Here is a link for this. (the first sentence under "S t y l e s")

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#60 MissLibrarian
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It is a cake - you bake it in an open-topped tin.

It has not a pastry crust of any kind.

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#61 jwsoul
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Its a Cake this is silly its not even up for debate. Go look up the definition for Pie.

Then again im a prat and i find myself agreeing with the Pie guys.

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#62 mayforcebeyou
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i think it looks like a pie, but it's a cake. There is some cheesecake that looks 100percent cake.
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#63 LJS9502_basic
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It is a cake - you bake it in an open-topped tin.

It has not a pastry crust of any kind.

MissLibrarian
Yes it does have a crust.:|
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#64 vidplayer8
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I feel like I can categorize cheesecake all by itself.

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#65 moonlightcharm6
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PIE:P
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#66 XilePrincess
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There's no resemblance whatsoever to cake in it, besides maybe its' shape. it's not a pie either, but it'd be closer to that than a cake.
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#67 ArT33_7
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I consider it to be more like a pie.

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#68 cjek
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Honestly I've never considered it to be either. If someone said to go and buy a pie, I'd probably not choose a cheesecake. If they said buy a cake, I probably wouldn't choose a cheesecake. It's not sufficiently cake or pie like for me to be confident in selecting it in either situation.
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#69 raven_squad
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Honestly I've never considered it to be either. If someone said to go and buy a pie, I'd probably not choose a cheesecake. If they said buy a cake, I probably wouldn't choose a cheesecake. It's not sufficiently cake or pie like for me to be confident in selecting it in either situation.cjek
Was just about to say something very similar. :P It really can't fairly be categorized as either.
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#70 batman_is_aweso
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i hate cheesecake

its too sugary for one and also i hate cream cheese

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#71 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="MissLibrarian"]

It is a cake - you bake it in an open-topped tin.

It has not a pastry crust of any kind.

LJS9502_basic

Yes it does have a crust.:|

exactly, and a pastry crust at that.

batters generally consist of flour, eggs, milk, and other stuff, lending a bready texture

crusts consist of a starch (flour, gram crackers, oreos, etc) and butter, lending a flaky texture.

pies (and cheesecakes) have crusts

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#72 JustPlainLucas
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[QUOTE="kdawg88"]A Cheesecake poem: I simply cannot decide No matter how hard I try The word is intended to deceive me A sneaky, recreant lie So that every time I eat it I ask Is it a cake or a pie?

Heh, that made me smile. :)

It's a cake because it's just like chocolate cake (well, the one I eat) and it doesn't have crust on top of it.

bloodling
Well, whatever cheesecake that you eat that's more like chocolate cake is a cheesecake I never heard of, and there are a ton of pies out there that no crust on top.
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#73 Sajedene
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Pizza is a pie :o
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#74 JustPlainLucas
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Its both. Thread over.KrunkMastaX
Nope.. you have to debate one side or the other. Be decisive! [QUOTE="KrunkMastaX"] Then why the bloody hell isnt it called "CheesePie"?

Because it doesn't sound as appealing. Here's another one. Why is a hamburger called a hamburger when there's no ham in it? Or a hot dog when there's no dog in it? Or Kentucky Fried Chicken when there's no chicken in it?[QUOTE="KrunkMastaX"] Who misnamed it?

A cake maker who realized he made a pie, but didn't want to admit to his mistake.
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#75 JustPlainLucas
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I voted cake just to tie things up at 22 votes each. 8)MagikarpSplash
You wouldn't by chance be a Floridian, would you?

If you're going to use examples for your argument theres an easier, more obvious example; Is a tomato a vegetable? No, it's a fruit. As much as I'd like it to be a cake - 'cause I like cake - I can't deny that it is a pie.

AzzoLovesBirdy
I thought of this argument, but never got around to bringing it up. Yeah, it just seems weird to call a tomato a fruit, because you tend to think fruits are sweet, however, technically it is a fruit because it has seeds. It is what it is, despite what you want to call it.

I hate to repeat myself but:

Pie: A layer cake having cream, custard, or jelly filling. So if a pie can be a cake, why can't a cake be a pie?

I mean, just type cheesecake and chocolate cake in google... They are both cakes.

bloodling
Where did you get that definition from anyway?
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[QUOTE="KrunkMastaX"] Nope.. you have to debate one side or the other. Be decisive! [QUOTE="KrunkMastaX"] Then why the bloody hell isnt it called "CheesePie"?JustPlainLucas
Because it doesn't sound as appealing. Here's another one. Why is a hamburger called a hamburger when there's no ham in it? Or a hot dog when there's no dog in it? Or Kentucky Fried Chicken when there's no chicken in it?
Who misnamed it?KrunkMastaX
A cake maker who realized he made a pie, but didn't want to admit to his mistake.

haha I can see it now

"Hmmmm why did you make a pie?"
*in thick Russian accent* "Its not pie...its cake
"Really? Hmmm it sort of looks like a pi-"
"NO! It cake! Not pie! We call cheesecake!"

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#77 JustPlainLucas
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It is a cake - you bake it in an open-topped tin.

It has not a pastry crust of any kind.

MissLibrarian
You bake brownies in a tin, too. Are they cakes? And lots of pies don't have pastry crusts. So you'd call a french silk pie a cake because it has a chocolate cookie crust instead of a pastry crust?
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#78 JustPlainLucas
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Its a Cake this is silly its not even up for debate. Go look up the definition for Pie.

Then again im a prat and i find myself agreeing with the Pie guys.

jwsoul
Have you even read a fraction of this thread? :?
Pizza is a pie :oSajedene
But it's not a dessert! :o
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#79 JustPlainLucas
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haha I can see it now

"Hmmmm why did you make a pie?"
*in thick Russian accent* "Its not pie...its cake
"Really? Hmmm it sort of looks like a pi-"
"NO! It cake! Not pie! We call cheesecake!"

mrbojangles25

In Soviet Russia, cheesecake eat you.

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#80 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"]Pizza is a pie :oJustPlainLucas
But it's not a dessert! :o

Then why the hell is it called a pie?!
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#81 jeremiah06
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Cake otherwise it would be called cheese pie.

Pirate700
Actually any chief would tell you its pie(American). Most people assume that same thing you did though. Some other countries make it more like a cake as well. However, the traditional American cheesecake is technically pie.
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#82 GHlegend77
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I think it's a pie. Pies are usually not baked, but cakes are.

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#83 gubrushadow
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well its certainly not a cheesepie right ?
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#84 rockguy92
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Who cares: it's good.
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#85 JustPlainLucas
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Then why the hell is it called a pie?!Sajedene
Because an Italian chef made a dinner entree and didn't want to admit his mistake! :lol:

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#86 JustPlainLucas
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well its certainly not a cheesepie right ?gubrushadow
A lot of things in the world would need to be renamed if they were defined strictly by their names.
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#87 Rusteater
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Who cares: it's good.rockguy92

This.

Definitely this.

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#88 jrhawk42
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I put it into the same category as pudding, and crumble. So it's not really either. It share's some pie qualities, but the crust isn't (normally) a pastry crust.

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#89 metroidfood
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I never thought about this before, but I have to agree. If the "cheese" was anything else you'd call it a pie.

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#90 MissLibrarian
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[QUOTE="MissLibrarian"]

It is a cake - you bake it in an open-topped tin.

It has not a pastry crust of any kind.

LJS9502_basic
Yes it does have a crust.:|

Not a pastry one! And certainly not as a deliciously buttery crusty lid ala:  Technically a cheesecake has a buttery, biscuity BASE. What kind of crazy-ass pie do you guys have across the pond, anyway, if you can confuse them with cheesecakes?
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#91 DJ_Lae
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Pie. It has a crust, it has a filling, and the filling has no leavening agent - cakes all rise in the oven. It is in no way a cake.
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#92 joesh89
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To me, its a pie.

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#93 McJugga
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I'm disappointed to see cake winning by such a large margin in the polls.... V_V
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#94 Mr_Cumberdale
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I believe it's a tart. But between those two, it would be pie. But to me, it's a cake. Choose what you want.. :)
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#95 Theokhoth
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One day, I'm going to open a correctional facility. All admittances will be determined by the answer to this question. If they answer "pie," they shall be corrected. :x

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#96 McJugga
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One day, I'm going to open a correctional facility. All admittances will be determined by the answer to this question. If they answer "pie," they shall be corrected. :x

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Nobody cares what an "ok" hoth thinks. I want to hear the opinion of a good hoth.
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

One day, I'm going to open a correctional facility. All admittances will be determined by the answer to this question. If they answer "pie," they shall be corrected. :x

McJugga
Nobody cares what an "ok" hoth thinks. I want to hear the opinion of a good hoth.

Oh no you di'int.
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#98 McJugga
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[QUOTE="McJugga"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

One day, I'm going to open a correctional facility. All admittances will be determined by the answer to this question. If they answer "pie," they shall be corrected. :x

Theokhoth

Nobody cares what an "ok" hoth thinks. I want to hear the opinion of a good hoth.

Oh no you di'int.

8)

That's right, sit down boy.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MissLibrarian"]

It is a cake - you bake it in an open-topped tin.

It has not a pastry crust of any kind.

MissLibrarian

Yes it does have a crust.:|

Not a pastry one! And certainly not as a deliciously buttery crusty lid a Technically a cheesecake has a buttery, biscuity BASE. What kind of crazy-ass pie do you guys have across the pond, anyway, if you can confuse them with cheesecakes?

Well a cheesecake can have a pastry crust.

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#100 LJS9502_basic
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I'm disappointed to see cake winning by such a large margin in the polls.... V_VMcJugga
OT.....what else can you say.:lol: