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Question. Where in the Bible does it say that no other gods exist explicitly? The wording of the line in the ten commandments can be interpreted to say that you mustn't worship other gods or see them as higher than God, but it doesn't have to mean that they don't exist.Zagrius

Doesnt mean they are gods either.

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No. The Word refers to Jesus Christ. The point of the section is to say that Jesus Christ is fully God, since he both is God, and has always been God. You know it applies to Jesus Christ because several verses later it says, "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we saw his glory, glory as of the Father's only Son, full of grace and truth."

Edit: Wow, having read some of these responses, including the original message, I am amazed by how ignorant some people are. If you want to analyze literature, you can't take things out of context, and if you want to brag about your atheism, you shouldn't embarrass yourself by saying stupid things like this.

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[QUOTE="Zagrius"]Question. Where in the Bible does it say that no other gods exist explicitly? The wording of the line in the ten commandments can be interpreted to say that you mustn't worship other gods or see them as higher than God, but it doesn't have to mean that they don't exist.123625

Doesnt mean they are gods either.

Err... Yes. I'm just saying that if you only go according to that passage, it doesn't explicitly say that you have to refuse to acknowledge the possibility of the existence of other deities. Maybe there's another passage that explicitly states that they don't exist?

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#154 CptJSparrow
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er[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="123625"]

Correct me if im wrong but according to evolution, did we not come from puddles of rock goo? Im not sure what its called.

123625

Abiogenesis.

Please tell me if im right or wrong i cant watch the vid cause of my download speed i eplained this before.

It says that organic life came from inorganic matter, yes.

So that means a tree can evolve in life then no? or maybe steel thanks

A tree IS alive. As for steel: not that we know of.
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#155 foxhound_fox
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Well all know that Will Navidson's house IS God.
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#156 stevenk4k5
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[QUOTE="Snaptrap"]Then who made man? In fact, who made everything so it exists and works as a system?thriteenthmonke

God did, but man already existed so...

Time Paradox!!!!!!

:P

Ohnoes!

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#157 darkmoney52
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No. The Word refers to Jesus Christ. The point of the section is to say that Jesus Christ is fully God, since he both is God, and has always been God. You know it applies to Jesus Christ because several verses later it says, "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we saw his glory, glory as of the Father's only Son, full of grace and truth."

Edit: Wow, having read some of these responses, including the original message, I am amazed by how ignorant some people are. If you want to analyze literature, you can't take things out of context, and if you want to brag about your atheism, you shouldn't embarrass yourself by saying stupid things like this.

nbtrap1212

I'm an atheist an all but still...PWNED!

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#158 Delta500mag
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Man made god.Bourbons3

The ignorance in that statement is sig worthy :|

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#160 123625
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[QUOTE="123625"]er[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="123625"]

Correct me if im wrong but according to evolution, did we not come from puddles of rock goo? Im not sure what its called.

CptJSparrow

Abiogenesis.

Please tell me if im right or wrong i cant watch the vid cause of my download speed i eplained this before.

It says that organic life came from inorganic matter, yes.

So that means a tree can evolve in life then no? or maybe steel thanks

A tree IS alive. As for steel: not that we know of.

But if we came from a rock why not steel?

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#161 123625
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[QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="Zagrius"]Question. Where in the Bible does it say that no other gods exist explicitly? The wording of the line in the ten commandments can be interpreted to say that you mustn't worship other gods or see them as higher than God, but it doesn't have to mean that they don't exist.Zagrius

Doesnt mean they are gods either.

Err... Yes. I'm just saying that if you only go according to that passage, it doesn't explicitly say that you have to refuse to acknowledge the possibility of the existence of other deities. Maybe there's another passage that explicitly states that they don't exist?

"The Lord our God is Lord alone! Therefore, you shall adore the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength." [Deuteronomy 6:4-5] [Mark 12:29-30]

Basically telling us to only worship the lord and the lord alone. Im not saying those other deitys didnt exist, they could of been Fallen angels following Satan sent to deceive people away from god. Thats what i think anyway.

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#162 Zagrius
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[QUOTE="Zagrius"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="Zagrius"]Question. Where in the Bible does it say that no other gods exist explicitly? The wording of the line in the ten commandments can be interpreted to say that you mustn't worship other gods or see them as higher than God, but it doesn't have to mean that they don't exist.123625

Doesnt mean they are gods either.

Err... Yes. I'm just saying that if you only go according to that passage, it doesn't explicitly say that you have to refuse to acknowledge the possibility of the existence of other deities. Maybe there's another passage that explicitly states that they don't exist?

"The Lord our God is Lord alone! Therefore, you shall adore the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength." [Deuteronomy 6:4-5] [Mark 12:29-30]

Basically telling us to only worship the lord and the lord alone. Im not saying those other deitys didnt exist, they could of been Fallen angels following Satan sent to deceive people away from god. Thats what i think anyway.

That's fine. I was just curious to know. Thanks for the explanation.

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#163 CptJSparrow
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[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="123625"]er[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="123625"]

Correct me if im wrong but according to evolution, did we not come from puddles of rock goo? Im not sure what its called.

123625

Abiogenesis.

Please tell me if im right or wrong i cant watch the vid cause of my download speed i eplained this before.

It says that organic life came from inorganic matter, yes.

So that means a tree can evolve in life then no? or maybe steel thanks

A tree IS alive. As for steel: not that we know of.

But if we came from a rock why not steel?

We did not come from a rock.
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#164 2FacedJanus
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Man made god. God-shaped hole....

Caveman walks around, sees a cave, and thinks: 'Hey! I could live there! Someone must've built this for me! I'm a human, I build things, so whoever built this must be somewhat like me'. And so it was that man created god in his own likeness.

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#165 erc500
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The Bible has been proven accurate again and again and again by historical and archeaological discoveries. . .

Dracargen

Where is the evidence from these discoveries?

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#166 _Tobli_
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God as defined by Christianity can be disproven. . .al you need to do is point out a point in the Bible or in the past where God has lied. Do that, and boom, God disproven. :|

Of course, you would have an easier time digging to the Earth's core with a spoon. . .

Dracargen

Not really....Noah's ark = impossible. *waits for some poor interpritation excuse*

[quote="Bourbons3"] Man made god. Delta500mag

The ignorance in that statement is sig worthy

What makes you say that? The statement looks reasonable to me.

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[QUOTE="Bourbons3"]Man made god.Delta500mag

The ignorance in that statement is sig worthy :|

Ignorance? You should read up on what it means...it has nothing to do with ignorance.

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#168 Anamosa41
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It's in the Bible! Please open to the Gospel of John Chapter 1 verse 1. For those who don't have their Bibles, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." So the Word was first, then God was with the Word so that must mean the Word created God since it was there first. But, being the smart people you are, are asking where did the Word come from? Well man made language, so and Words are part of language! Thank you.cool_baller
When Jesus says, "Before Abraham, I am!" and in many other verses, The Bible clearly states that Jesus has always been. What you're not getting is that the everything the Bible (Word) says, Jesus says. So why not say that Jesus is the Word? He isn't paper, He was a spiritual being before He became flesh. Now He is in a new body.
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#169 Putzwapputzen
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wow, i dont think thats right. the Bible didnt create God, its God's word to man.
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#170 Dracargen
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[QUOTE="Dracargen"]

The Bible has been proven accurate again and again and again by historical and archeaological discoveries. . .

erc500

Where is the evidence from these discoveries?

New Testament:

The Pilate Stone Inscription (proves the existence of Pontius Pilate, the man who judged Jesus)

The Delphi Inscription (Also known as the Gallio Inscription, this little gem provided a way to date the book of Acts, and much of the rest of Paul's minstry)

The Caiaphas Ossuary (Confirmed the existence of Caiaphus, a high priest that conspired against Jesus, I believe)

The Sergius Paulus Inscription (Confirmed the existence of Sergius Paulus, a man encountered by Paul in Acts)

The Pool of Siloam (The site of Jesus' miracle recorded in John 9:1-11)

The Skeleton of Yohanan (The only known remains of a crucifixion victim, this guy validates the Bible's description of crucifixions during the Roman era. I cannot find a working link for this one.)

The Rylands Papyrus P52 (The oldest universally accepted manuscript of the New Testament)

The Bodmer Papyrus II (Contains most of John's gospels)

The Magdalene Papyrus

The Chester Beatty Papyri

The Codex Vaticanus

The Codex Sinaiticus

The 7Q5*

The Galilee Boat (the one Jesus used)

*The validity of this is disputed

This is a very small portion of what confirms the New Testament alone. Do you want to see the Old Testament?

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[QUOTE="Dracargen"]God as defined by Christianity can be disproven. . .al you need to do is point out a point in the Bible or in the past where God has lied. Do that, and boom, God disproven. :|

Of course, you would have an easier time digging to the Earth's core with a spoon. . .

_Tobli_

Not really....Noah's ark = impossible. *waits for some poor interpritation excuse*

1. So, those historians who know how to interpret texts are doing a poor job?:roll:

2. Noah's flood was local.

3. Explain how that would be an example of God lying?

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#172 fgjnfgh
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dude just shut up you must be an F student for making up something like that
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#173 _Tobli_
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1. So, those historians who know how to interpret texts are doing a poor job?:roll:

2. Noah's flood was local.

3. Explain how that would be an example of God lying?

Dracargen

1. Well the current world view of what hell is would be a good indication of that.

2. Gather all species on the planet for a local flood......:|

3. It's something related to what the bible is supposed to be, but i won't bother looking into that right now.

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#174 Jambi86
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A crafty Frenchman named Voltaire had a snappy quote that goes with what TC said. It was something like, "man invented God to fill a void" or something like that.
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#175 Dracargen
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[QUOTE="Dracargen"]1. So, those historians who know how to interpret texts are doing a poor job?:roll:

2. Noah's flood was local.

3. Explain how that would be an example of God lying?

_Tobli_

1. Well the current world view of what hell is would be a good indication of that.

2. Gather all species on the planet for a local flood......:|

3. It's something related to what the bible is supposed to be, but i won't bother looking into that right now.

What do you mean? Hell is a state of mind that is seperated from God. . .

lol "Gather all species on the planet. . ." There have been massive floods in the region of Meopotamia in the time man has been walking the Earth. Noah lived in that region. See the connection? http://www.reasons.org/resources/apologetics/flood.shtml

What? Inerrant? Meaning what it says and saying what it means? The Bible is not the Qu'ran; It doesn't fall apart if we find a spelling error in it.

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#176 Dracargen
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A crafty Frenchman named Voltaire had a snappy quote that goes with what TC said. It was something like, "man invented God to fill a void" or something like that.Jambi86

THAT'S HIM!!

That's the guy I was talking about earlier!

"In twenty years, Christianity will be no more."

Now his house is the center for the Bible society. God has a sense of humor.

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#177 _Tobli_
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What do you mean? Hell is a state of mind that is seperated from God. . .

lol "Gather all species on the planet. . ." There have been massive floods in the region of Meopotamia in the time man has been walking the Earth. Noah lived in that region. See the connection? http://www.reasons.org/resources/apologetics/flood.shtml

What? Inerrant? Meaning what it says and saying what it means? The Bible is not the Qu'ran; It doesn't fall apart if we find a spelling error in it.

Dracargen

Well yeah, but that isn't the picture most people imagine when they think of hell.

Uhm still seems inaccurate, but maybe it's just how it is presented in my bible.

I wasn't talking about spelling. I mean what it is supposed to represent, and things like that.

I won't continue this argument. I wasn't really prepared this discussion. If i was i might have revealed the main reason why i consider the bible to be fictional.

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[QUOTE="erc500"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

The Bible has been proven accurate again and again and again by historical and archeaological discoveries. . .

Dracargen

Where is the evidence from these discoveries?

New Testament:

The Pilate Stone Inscription (proves the existence of Pontius Pilate, the man who judged Jesus)

The Delphi Inscription (Also known as the Gallio Inscription, this little gem provided a way to date the book of Acts, and much of the rest of Paul's minstry)

The Caiaphas Ossuary (Confirmed the existence of Caiaphus, a high priest that conspired against Jesus, I believe)

The Sergius Paulus Inscription (Confirmed the existence of Sergius Paulus, a man encountered by Paul in Acts)

The Pool of Siloam (The site of Jesus' miracle recorded in John 9:1-11)

The Skeleton of Yohanan (The only known remains of a crucifixion victim, this guy validates the Bible's description of crucifixions during the Roman era. I cannot find a working link for this one.)

The Rylands Papyrus P52 (The oldest universally accepted manuscript of the New Testament)

The Bodmer Papyrus II (Contains most of John's gospels)

The Magdalene Papyrus

The Chester Beatty Papyri

The Codex Vaticanus

The Codex Sinaiticus

The 7Q5*

The Galilee Boat (the one Jesus used)

*The validity of this is disputed

This is a very small portion of what confirms the New Testament alone. Do you want to see the Old Testament?

No one denies that Jesus existed and was crucified, what's debatable is if he was any different from a typical cult leader.

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#179 darkmoney52
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[QUOTE="erc500"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

The Bible has been proven accurate again and again and again by historical and archeaological discoveries. . .

Dracargen

Where is the evidence from these discoveries?

New Testament:

The Pilate Stone Inscription (proves the existence of Pontius Pilate, the man who judged Jesus)

The Delphi Inscription (Also known as the Gallio Inscription, this little gem provided a way to date the book of Acts, and much of the rest of Paul's minstry)

The Caiaphas Ossuary (Confirmed the existence of Caiaphus, a high priest that conspired against Jesus, I believe)

The Sergius Paulus Inscription (Confirmed the existence of Sergius Paulus, a man encountered by Paul in Acts)

The Pool of Siloam (The site of Jesus' miracle recorded in John 9:1-11)

The Skeleton of Yohanan (The only known remains of a crucifixion victim, this guy validates the Bible's description of crucifixions during the Roman era. I cannot find a working link for this one.)

The Rylands Papyrus P52 (The oldest universally accepted manuscript of the New Testament)

The Bodmer Papyrus II (Contains most of John's gospels)

The Magdalene Papyrus

The Chester Beatty Papyri

The Codex Vaticanus

The Codex Sinaiticus

The 7Q5*

The Galilee Boat (the one Jesus used)

*The validity of this is disputed

This is a very small portion of what confirms the New Testament alone. Do you want to see the Old Testament?

No one denies that Jesus existed and was crucified, what's debatable is if he was any different from a typical cult leader.

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#180 IAteTheSoap
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You're reading it incorrectly. That passage would either mean that God created himself or God has existed forever.

It's also often supposed that "the Word" is meant to infer Jesus, the point being that God had existed as a trinity (the Holy Spirit being implied) for eternity.

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#181 CptJSparrow
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The Galilee Boat (the one Jesus used)

Dracargen
The article says that nobody knows who used that boat. :|
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#182 Zagrius
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[QUOTE="Dracargen"]

The Galilee Boat (the one Jesus used)

CptJSparrow

The article says that nobody knows who used that boat. :|

Did you forget? If you don't know, then the answer is God. :P Sorry, just had to say it.

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I was just reading in bible class and it came to me. :D
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[QUOTE="erc500"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

The Bible has been proven accurate again and again and again by historical and archeaological discoveries. . .

Dracargen

Where is the evidence from these discoveries?

New Testament:

The Pilate Stone Inscription (proves the existence of Pontius Pilate, the man who judged Jesus)

The Delphi Inscription (Also known as the Gallio Inscription, this little gem provided a way to date the book of Acts, and much of the rest of Paul's minstry)

The Caiaphas Ossuary (Confirmed the existence of Caiaphus, a high priest that conspired against Jesus, I believe)

The Sergius Paulus Inscription (Confirmed the existence of Sergius Paulus, a man encountered by Paul in Acts)

The Pool of Siloam (The site of Jesus' miracle recorded in John 9:1-11)

The Skeleton of Yohanan (The only known remains of a crucifixion victim, this guy validates the Bible's description of crucifixions during the Roman era. I cannot find a working link for this one.)

The Rylands Papyrus P52 (The oldest universally accepted manuscript of the New Testament)

The Bodmer Papyrus II (Contains most of John's gospels)

The Magdalene Papyrus

The Chester Beatty Papyri

The Codex Vaticanus

The Codex Sinaiticus

The 7Q5*

The Galilee Boat (the one Jesus used)

*The validity of this is disputed

This is a very small portion of what confirms the New Testament alone. Do you want to see the Old Testament?


No one said that the Bible wasn't historically accurate to a large degree. What's missing is the explicit proof of a divine presence. Ancient Greek and Roman works have also been proven historically accurate, yet they are rife with descriptions of gods and goddesses. Does that make Hellenistic polytheism true?