I have an issue with Naruto (newest developments in the shippuuden series).

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#1 Cyber-
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***Maybe spoilers i dont know***

I know Naruto is a love to hate anime show and is almost unbearable in its english form. My problem, aside from the fact that new episodes simply feel like nothing happens from episode to episode and feel so riculously short, is that Naruto is supposed to be rivals with Sasuke but he is seems to be so much less cool and less talented. Even in the new series where they are supposed to be older and more sophisticated Naruto only knows resangen and a varieation of that and his shadow clones and variations fo that. Then we see Sasuke who is just the ost bad ass character now. As rivals arent they supposed to be somewhat at the same level?

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#2 dooly420
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of course not. the main character is generally supposed to be weaker than his rival, that way it's a bigger deal when he beats him. that's generally how it is with those kinds of animes.
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#3 kruesader
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Gary was always better than Ash
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#4 Bill900
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my advice: pick a better anime
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#5 123625
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yes it kind of doesnt make much sense, though naurto is powerful now i think, i shippuden, don't know how he compares though.
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#6 Tylendal
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Who cares about Naruto. I only watch it for Rock Lee and Garra.
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#7 Wetall_basic
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Who cares about Naruto. I only watch it for Rock Lee and Garra.Tylendal


Shino owns every other character.
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#8 Zagrius
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In these animes the main character is always weaker than his rival, but has some weird-ass inner power/natural talent/whatever that comes out at convenient plot points to give him the edge.
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#9 Erasorn
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Naruto is so hillariously bad these days anyway. :lol: They spend whole episodes on nonsense things that does nothing to advance the story(like reading a picture book) or to explain things that are so obvious that you figured it out way back.
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#10 Cyber-
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Its stupid because whenever Naruto learns something new everyone gets all excited but thats so few and far between that its just a faint memory. I know most people like Naruto because of the other characters. People like Garaa and Kimimarro(spelling) are so badass then Naruto is just a fumbling idiot.

I understand he is not as sophisticated and basically has ADD with the ninetails fox in him but he doesnt manifest any cool powers except the few times he is being puppeted by the demon.

Hes been trained by the strongest of the Senins and he still does not know jack. Are the writers fearful that people will not be able to keep up with new movesets or something? Seriously it needs to change they need him to be learning new stuff once in awhile and have fans be interested in Naruto.

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#11 Zagrius
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Hey, on the little plus side, at least it's not like Inuyasha. All the guy has is a lightning attack. But then finally he gets a new move... A RED LIGHTNING ATTACK! WOOOOW!
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#12 nightshade85
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Gary was always better than Ashkruesader

only because he had a posse

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#13 Viper-snake
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From the very start, Naruto was portrayed to be the weakest but he had a very strong will to succed and become a Hokage, which means that he must become very strong. Indeed, i must say that i am bothered by the fact that Naruto is still pretty dumb, naive and...still weak. Even this new guy Sai is portrayed in a way that he may be able to defeat Naruto if they fight together. But my idea is that, obviously Naruto is making progress and definitely at the end of the story he shall become the strongest.
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#14 WSGRandomPerson
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Naruto makes up with it with his Nine Tailed Fox thing...that's probably why he has the same move for almost the entire anime.
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#15 cell1138
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Naruto is so hillariously bad these days anyway. :lol: They spend whole episodes on nonsense things that does nothing to advance the story(like reading a picture book) or to explain things that are so obvious that you figured it out way back.Erasorn
i know! the original i give 8.5/10 filler: 6/10 shippuuden: i give it a 0 divided by 0. the gai vs gai fight was awful! not to mention now all they do is talk and talk and talk!
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From the very start, Naruto was portrayed to be the weakest but he had a very strong will to succed and become a Hokage, which means that he must become very strong. Indeed, i must say that i am bothered by the fact that Naruto is still pretty dumb, naive and...still weak. Even this new guy Sai is portrayed in a way that he may be able to defeat Naruto if they fight together. But my idea is that, obviously Naruto is making progress and definitely at the end of the story he shall become the strongest.Viper-snake

its outright lame. Its absoultely frustrating when you wanna see Naruto beat some ass because he worked hard but all he does is get his shadow clones kicked around. I dont see him and Sasuke as rivals because rivals need to be on the same level. Probabaly the best era of Naruto was when they started showing him to be really powerful. That is right before Sasuke left. I remember them being so even and then they had their ultimate showdown near that waterfall. that was the pinnacle of the Naruto series in my opinion because they were not putting up all these barriers. Both Naruto and Sasuke had extra things making them more powerful and they were evenly matched. Then afterwards it was just a filler fest.

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#17 Cyber-
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Naruto is close to fighting Sasuke it would be sweet if they unvieled him having a new move OTHER than shadow clones and resengan.
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#18 -TheSecondSign-
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He can transform into a mini kyubi.

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[QUOTE="Tylendal"]Who cares about Naruto. I only watch it for Rock Lee and Garra.Wetall_basic


Shino owns every other character.

Kakashi>Shino.

But that's not really fair, considering the age difference and the Mangekyo sharingan.

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#20 Food_Nipple
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No they just seems so short because they fill half the episodes doing flashbacks to crap that happened earlier that episode.
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#21 Cyber-
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He can transform into a mini kyubi.

-TheSecondSign-

Yes that is really cool but they killed that battle it was short and broken up between long pauses. Besides that is not Naruto thats the Kyubi.

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#22 -TheSecondSign-
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[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

He can transform into a mini kyubi.

Cyber-

Yes that is really cool but they killed that battle it was short and broken up between long pauses. Besides that is not Naruto thats the Kyubi.

He can control 3 tails, there's nothing stopping him from eventually, down the road, manifesting 4,5,6,7,8, and eventually all 9 tails and power. It's a matter of control.

When he fought Haku he couldn't control himself before he even FORMED a tail. Even when he could manifest one, it took awhile and was hard to control.

Now he can just practically JUMP to three if he needs to.

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#23 Kikouken
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Shippuuden is very very slow. I prefer the manga. I watched episode 47 today and it barely progressed.
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#24 Wetall_basic
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[QUOTE="Wetall_basic"][QUOTE="Tylendal"]Who cares about Naruto. I only watch it for Rock Lee and Garra.-TheSecondSign-



Shino owns every other character.

Kakashi>Shino.

But that's not really fair, considering the age difference and the Mangekyo sharingan.



Tch. Sharingan can only go so far. Kakashi can't replicate the chakra bugs inhabiting Shino's body. If he simply gets a jump on Kakashi he could take him down. Though I agree,it would be difficult to surprise Kakashi.
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[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

[QUOTE="Wetall_basic"][QUOTE="Tylendal"]Who cares about Naruto. I only watch it for Rock Lee and Garra.Wetall_basic



Shino owns every other character.

Kakashi>Shino.

But that's not really fair, considering the age difference and the Mangekyo sharingan.



Tch. Sharingan can only go so far. Kakashi can't replicate the chakra bugs inhabiting Shino's body. If he simply gets a jump on Kakashi he could take him down. Though I agree,it would be difficult to surprise Kakashi.

That, and if he looks at you, he can suck you into another dimension.

That's kind of hard to avoid.
If you make eye contact, you're dogmeat, pal.

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#26 Wetall_basic
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[QUOTE="Wetall_basic"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

[QUOTE="Wetall_basic"][QUOTE="Tylendal"]Who cares about Naruto. I only watch it for Rock Lee and Garra.-TheSecondSign-



Shino owns every other character.

Kakashi>Shino.

But that's not really fair, considering the age difference and the Mangekyo sharingan.



Tch. Sharingan can only go so far. Kakashi can't replicate the chakra bugs inhabiting Shino's body. If he simply gets a jump on Kakashi he could take him down. Though I agree,it would be difficult to surprise Kakashi.

That, and if he looks at you, he can suck you into another dimension.

That's kind of hard to avoid.
If you make eye contact, you're dogmeat, pal.



True,but Kakashi would have to use it pretty early,and Shino has proven to be an intellectual fighter,on the level of Shikamaru,so he'd be prepared against looking into his eyes.
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[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"][QUOTE="Wetall_basic"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

[QUOTE="Wetall_basic"][QUOTE="Tylendal"]Who cares about Naruto. I only watch it for Rock Lee and Garra.Wetall_basic



Shino owns every other character.

Kakashi>Shino.

But that's not really fair, considering the age difference and the Mangekyo sharingan.



Tch. Sharingan can only go so far. Kakashi can't replicate the chakra bugs inhabiting Shino's body. If he simply gets a jump on Kakashi he could take him down. Though I agree,it would be difficult to surprise Kakashi.

That, and if he looks at you, he can suck you into another dimension.

That's kind of hard to avoid.
If you make eye contact, you're dogmeat, pal.



True,but Kakashi would have to use it pretty early,and Shino has proven to be an intellectual fighter,on the level of Shikamaru,so he'd be prepared against looking into his eyes.

Yeah, but Kakashi is all around more powerful.

The Fifth said he's one of the most powerful in the village.

Kakashi knows waaaay too much through his sharingan to lose against Shino.
He's just collected a huge amount of technique and fighting technique through it.

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#28 lonewolf604
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it follows the manga to the page. and right now, of course its boring, its the arch where they are finding sasuke underground, it'l get better in the following weeks.
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#29 Wetall_basic
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Yeah, but Kakashi is all around more powerful.

The Fifth said he's one of the most powerful in the village.

Kakashi knows waaaay too much through his sharingan to lose against Shino.
He's just collected a huge amount of technique and fighting technique through it.

-TheSecondSign-


Yeah,but the majority of Kakashi's power comes from his chakra attacks. Lacking thoughs he'd be in a bind. I'd wage that Shino has had more experience with tactical planning,because his power is inharently weak. While Kakashi has had a life time of streight up fighting,lessening his tactical skills. Shino,with alot of luck and some great planning could drain Kakashi and take him down.

Bah,that's it I callenge you to Naruto: Gekitou Ninja Taisen 4,we'll settle this once and for all!
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#30 SimpJee
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We don't know if Naruto is weaker than Sasuke! We haven't gotten that far.

Also, you don't know what else Naruto learned they only got into two fights since the series premiered. And I don't want to see any spoilers from manga, please :(

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#32 00Raziel00
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Rock lee is my personal fav Naruto isn't that strong hes only strong cause of the Demon, while Rock lee is pure hard training.
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#33 Cyber-
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[QUOTE="Cyber-"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

He can transform into a mini kyubi.

-TheSecondSign-

Yes that is really cool but they killed that battle it was short and broken up between long pauses. Besides that is not Naruto thats the Kyubi.

He can control 3 tails, there's nothing stopping him from eventually, down the road, manifesting 4,5,6,7,8, and eventually all 9 tails and power. It's a matter of control.

When he fought Haku he couldn't control himself before he even FORMED a tail. Even when he could manifest one, it took awhile and was hard to control.

Now he can just practically JUMP to three if he needs to.

no he cant just jump into it tho he is gaining more control. there has to be something to trigger it. Beyond that this isnt his own chakra and his speed this is a supernatural creature pushing these powers on him while other characters can rival him with their own strength.

The coolest thing I like is that in a recent episode their new squad leader Yamato tells Naruto to use his own power so hopefully we can get some progress from that.

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my advice: pick a better animeBill900

or dont pick one at all

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#35 nightshade85
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orochimaru was really cool in early episodes but now they made him into a douche

his attacks are just uninspired and he talks like a child mincer

is he the most powerful on that show - I thought of him as the frieza of naruto - except he just never dies

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#36 markebici
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nothing like flashing back to the past episode, i just couldnt imagine watching the last few in a row.
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#37 Cyber-
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orochimaru was really cool in early episodes but now they made him into a douche

his attacks are just uninspired and he talks like a child mincer

is he the most powerful on that show - I thought of him as the frieza of naruto - except he just never dies

nightshade85

I would say Jiraya is the strongest but he is always busy.

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#38 nightshade85
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[QUOTE="nightshade85"]

orochimaru was really cool in early episodes but now they made him into a douche

his attacks are just uninspired and he talks like a child mincer

is he the most powerful on that show - I thought of him as the frieza of naruto - except he just never dies

Cyber-

I would say Jiraya is the strongest but he is always busy.

orochimaru owned him though - and he didn't even have his arms

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#39 Cyber-
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[QUOTE="Cyber-"][QUOTE="nightshade85"]

orochimaru was really cool in early episodes but now they made him into a douche

his attacks are just uninspired and he talks like a child mincer

is he the most powerful on that show - I thought of him as the frieza of naruto - except he just never dies

nightshade85

I would say Jiraya is the strongest but he is always busy.

orochimaru owned him though - and he didn't even have his arms

no he didnt that fight wasnt even serious and had abunch of setbacks. Like Jiraya having to save Naruto once Orochimaru saw him as a threat.

If you saw a fair fight between them and nothing got in the way you would see him winning. Fact is the there never going to give the fans the ultimate pleasure of seeing such a good battle so we get one with plenty of interuptions.

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#40 Motiv3
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To be honest guys the anime is following the manga to each fine detai. So, the progress is slow because they want to be true to the manga and not start making rubbish crap up like Naruto learns to shoot laser out of his eyes etc.

But you'll soon realise that the format of filler episodes are always there to build up something big e.g. those who are upto date, next episode should be very good (i hope :P). Also trust me when i say Naruto will soon be using his inner demon fox powers to the max and then you'll learn why Sasuke and Naruto are rivals

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#41 Cyber-
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To be honest guys the anime is following the manga to each fine detai. So, the progress is slow because they want to be true to the manga and not start making rubbish crap up like Naruto learns to shoot laser out of his eyes etc.

But you'll soon realise that the format of filler episodes are always there to build up something big e.g. those who are upto date, next episode should be very good (i hope :P). Also trust me when i say Naruto will soon be using his inner demon fox powers to the max and then you'll learn why Sasuke and Naruto are rivals

Motiv3

next episode is a filler

BTW if they have to wait on the manga then next season should be delayed so the manga is way ahead so they dont have to wont on it.

Like I said Naruto using the demon as a crutch isnt cool for a protagonist and doesnt make him much of a rival. What I am excited about is that Yamato told Naruto to repress the fox and use his own strength and Im hoping he does that with Sasuke and gives him a good run.

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#42 dreamdude
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Why even bother with the anime.

The mangas hard enough to read through these days. I can imagine how painful it is to watch the anime.

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#43 Blitz_Nemesis
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yah naruto is pretty weak compared to all the other characters.
[spoiler] The only new technique naruto has learned so far in the latest manga is a super powerful form of the rasengan:|, although its apparently strong enough to even kill its user. on the other hand sasuke has some many different techniques, compared to naruto's 2 [/spoiler]
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#44 Wilfred_Owen
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The mangas hard enough to read through these days. I can imagine how painful it is to watch the anime.

dreamdude
At least the manga is leaving me on the edge of my seat.
[spoiler] Pity Jiraya was killed though. Those were great issues :cry: [/spoiler]
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#45 Blitz_Nemesis
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[QUOTE="dreamdude"]

The mangas hard enough to read through these days. I can imagine how painful it is to watch the anime.

Wilfred_Owen
At least the manga is leaving me on the edge of my seat.
[spoiler] Pity Jiraya was killed though. Those were great issues :cry: [/spoiler]

[spoiler] yah his death was pretty sad. im curious to see what happens to kabuto now that he has orochimaru in him:o [/spoiler]
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#46 Cyber-
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wow that really sucks I just read the spoiler
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#47 darkIink
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1. they slowed it down so it won't catch up to the manga. or would you rather have the old fast pace and every-2-week releases/more filler?

2. he learns an entire new set of awesome attacks later on, by getting SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS a new element affinity- Wind jutsu, like how sasuke likes fire jutsu.

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#48 Cyber-
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1. they slowed it down so it won't catch up to the manga. or would you rather have the old fast pace and every-2-week releases/more filler?

2. he learns an entire new set of awesome attacks later on, by getting SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS a new element affinity- Wind jutsu, like how sasuke likes fire jutsu.

darkIink

which country uses wind jutsu and how does he learn it because this is a big uplifter in my long string of dissappointments with naruto

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#49 dreamdude
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[QUOTE="dreamdude"]

The mangas hard enough to read through these days. I can imagine how painful it is to watch the anime.

Wilfred_Owen

At least the manga is leaving me on the edge of my seat.
[spoiler] Pity Jiraya was killed though. Those were great issues :cry: [/spoiler]

:cry:

Okay those were some pretty awesome chapters.

I'm refering more to the Sasuke ones. I feel like theres too many of them.

I feel like Naruto's getting little to no sceen time.

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#50 Wilfred_Owen
Member since 2005 • 20964 Posts

:cry:

Okay those were some pretty awesome chapters.

I'm refering more to the Sasuke ones. I feel like theres too many of them.

I feel like Naruto's getting little to no sceen time.

dreamdude
To be fair though they need to build suspense. After all [spoiler] Tobi is the leader of Akas and hes got to have some wicked moves, espically his eye techniques [/spoiler]