I have been pissed of to the maximum limit thanks to my english homework!

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#51 longdongsilvr
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I think it is believed by analyzing and critically thinking about these stories, poems, classic novels, etc. it is hoped that you will ultimately become a better thinker and ultimately more knowledgable and be able to apply the critical thinking strategies to your other subjects when necessary. And all of this is supposed to make you a wiser and more mature individual. That's just what I heard, though.
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I think it is believed by analyzing and critically thinking about these stories, poems, classic novels, etc. it is hoped that you will ultimately become a better thinker and ultimately more knowledgable and be able to apply the critical thinking strategies to your other subjects when necessary. And all of this is supposed to make you a wiser and more mature individual. That's just what I heard, though.longdongsilvr

yea i agree with the critically thinking part but i aint never been a critical thinker so cant they just have another subject for this stuff beucase if i fail my english, there goes my uni plan for sometime

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#53 Def_Jef88
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A very good trait for a desirable employee is to do what you are told, without question. thats what school trains you to do....

Anyways, Get over it. Analyzing a story is not that hard.

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#54 tarunramesh
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A very good trait for a desirable employee is to do what you are told, without question. thats what school trains you to do....

Anyways, Get over it. Analyzing a story is not that hard.

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i havent complained at all to the teacher or nothin but its gettin just to hard for me. One of the stories i had to read, i found out info on it on the net, and its about lets see a nuclear bomb, a dead dog, and a robo house, that is really easy for me to understand, isnt it i mean its only musing all the most random things into one story(sacrasm)

i get whatcha saying man but i just cant take it no more

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#55 helium_flash
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Well, analyzing books, poems, ect can give you a pretty good look at the culture from the time period that it was written in. For example, the epic poem Beowulf pretty much captivated the entire Anglo-Saxon culture. The novel "The Great Gatsby" captivates what people were like during the Roaring '20s in the US.

Not to mention that there is nothing wrong with a little culture.

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#56 tarunramesh
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Well, analyzing books, poems, ect can give you a pretty good look at the culture from the time period that it was written in. For example, the epic poem Beowulf pretty much captivated the entire Anglo-Saxon culture. The novel "The Great Gatsby" captivates what people were like during the Roaring '20s in the US.

Not to mention that there is nothing wrong with a little culture.

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yea i love culture but ive been doing this stuff for like 1 and a half years, cant they at least chagne things a bit. its always stereotypes or some analysis. isnt there anythin just a bit more intreasting to do?

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#57 helium_flash
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[QUOTE="helium_flash"]

Well, analyzing books, poems, ect can give you a pretty good look at the culture from the time period that it was written in. For example, the epic poem Beowulf pretty much captivated the entire Anglo-Saxon culture. The novel "The Great Gatsby" captivates what people were like during the Roaring '20s in the US.

Not to mention that there is nothing wrong with a little culture.

tarunramesh

yea i love culture but ive been doing this stuff for like 1 and a half years, cant they at least chagne things a bit. its always stereotypes or some analysis. isnt there anythin just a bit more intreasting to do?

No. English is pretty dull.
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#58 mattg90520
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maybe its because your spelling is so atrocious
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#59 mattg90520
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ps: english is like that no matter where you go. the only way you can get better is by reading and thinking. sometimes its boring as hell sometimes its cool. just deal
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#60 mllrmatt8
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Is the story your reading called "There will come soft rains" because i had to read that yesterday and your description matches it perfectly

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#61 Dopemonk736
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you're drunk to the maximum limit? I think the words you were looking for were "pissed OFF to the maximum limit"
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#62 mealex
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Your one of the best? :lol: Oh it shows well.Wilfred_Owen

Was just thinking that.

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#63 angel-of-rain
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I know, I work really, really hard at English and I get lousy marks, I have cried several times in class because I work hard and I get terrible marks. I just handed a nine question assignment today and it took me two hours to do and...:cry: Well, I hope you know that you're not the only one in that situation.
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#64 tarunramesh
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Is the story your reading called "There will come soft rains" because i had to read that yesterday and your description matches it perfectly

mllrmatt8

lol ya it is and thanks but give credit to the internet lol, i was luckly to find lots of stuff about it on the net so ya lol

you're drunk to the maximum limit? I think the words you were looking for were "pissed OFF to the maximum limit"Dopemonk736

lol when did i say i was drunk? im not even old enough to be

ps: english is like that no matter where you go. the only way you can get better is by reading and thinking. sometimes its boring as hell sometimes its cool. just dealmattg90520

ya i agree but also my spelling is crap

No. English is pretty dull.

agreed

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#65 tarunramesh
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I know, I work really, really hard at English and I get lousy marks, I have cried several times in class because I work hard and I get terrible marks. I just handed a nine question assignment today and it took me two hours to do and...:cry: Well, I hope you know that you're not the only one in that situation. angel-of-rain

true its ok buddy somehow we will manage and hard work will pay of one day, hopefully *hugs you*

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#66 194197844077667059316682358889
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If you were going to a trade school, your argument might have merit. The objective of an primary and secondary educational system is not to crank out engineers or whatever, but to produce well-rounded citizens. And based on the format and content of your post, I suggest in the strongest possible terms buckling down in Egnlish class.
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#67 Joshywaa
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TC,

english class helps us become more literate, and may even help get some kids interested in reading things other than harry potter...

my grade 11 english teacher opened my eyes to some of the best books i have or ever will read....

i know that's not really what you were having your little fit about (which should be in your blog, btw...not here) but still....uh.......grow up and deal with it.

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#68 TongHua
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English.... that was one of the easiest classes I've ever taken. Probably because I plan to be a writer when I grow up, but still... The reason you go through plays like Romeo and Juliet is so that you can read between the lies and think deeper.
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#69 Dopemonk736
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[QUOTE="mllrmatt8"]

Is the story your reading called "There will come soft rains" because i had to read that yesterday and your description matches it perfectly

tarunramesh

lol ya it is and thanks but give credit to the internet lol, i was luckly to find lots of stuff about it on the net so ya lol

you're drunk to the maximum limit? I think the words you were looking for were "pissed OFF to the maximum limit"Dopemonk736

lol when did i say i was drunk? im not even old enough to be

ps: english is like that no matter where you go. the only way you can get better is by reading and thinking. sometimes its boring as hell sometimes its cool. just dealmattg90520

ya i agree but also my spelling is crap

No. English is pretty dull.

agreed

because pissed means you are drunk, context example, "I am so pissed after I drank that much". I am pissed OFF means you are angry.

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#70 darksword1123
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I hate english homework since its my worst subject.
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#71 The_Ish
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[QUOTE="The_Ish"]

[QUOTE="ayanami_rei"]That's not as bad as your teacher trying to fail you because you proved her wrong. >__> And least you weren't kicked out of the school library for reading a book.ayanami_rei

Assuming that story applies to you, what book was it?

The Foreshadowing by Marcus Sedgwick. :|

The Foreshadowing

Know what's funny? :| I picked it up at that library and started reading it because I just had my first period, College English III, and had nothing else to do.

:P Plus the cover was pretty. >__>

But why did they kick you out?

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#72 Red-XIII
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I live in Australia and I finished my HSC two years ago. I agree that Standard/Advanced English (2 Unit) is a load of crap. Our English department was awful as well. However, the Extension 1 English (3 Unit) was much, much better. It was an intellectual study of texts and cultural, psychological, historical aspects of novels etc. If you want English that isn't patronising BS, then you should try Extension. But as for 2 Unit... it's catered to the masses so naturally it's mind numbing and stupid.

That being said, it's not hard to get decent marks in English. All English essays follow the same pattern. You have your theme, idea and texts. You basically summarise the theme and ideas in the introduction. Then you elaborate on how the texts are related to the theme in the body, give examples from the texts and utilize quotes to back it up. Throw in literary/film techniques to boost it. Rinse and repeat. Then in the conclusion you synthesise how your point has been proven. It's pretty easy.

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#73 Whicker89
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lol english I got Straight C's for no reason.
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#74 monkeysrfat
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I love english. Even though I'm in an extension class its still a bludge. Just make something up that sounds clever and you'll get 100%! No not really but its pretty easy. And no I'm not a complete dumba**. I'm also good at maths. What I can't get is science. Thats one f***** up subject.
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#75 tarunramesh
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I live in Australia and I finished my HSC two years ago. I agree that Standard/Advanced English (2 Unit) is a load of crap. Our English department was awful as well. However, the Extension 1 English (3 Unit) was much, much better. It was an intellectual study of texts and cultural, psychological, historical aspects of novels etc. If you want English that isn't patronising BS, then you should try Extension. But as for 2 Unit... it's catered to the masses so naturally it's mind numbing and stupid.

That being said, it's not hard to get decent marks in English. All English essays follow the same pattern. You have your theme, idea and texts. You basically summarise the theme and ideas in the introduction. Then you elaborate on how the texts are related to the theme in the body, give examples from the texts and utilize quotes to back it up. Throw in literary/film techniques to boost it. Rinse and repeat. Then in the conclusion you synthesise how your point has been proven. It's pretty easy.

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lol great bunch of tips man, ill keep that in mind

lol english I got Straight C's for no reason. Whicker89

lol, i normally get C's for english

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#76 tarunramesh
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I love english. Even though I'm in an extension class its still a bludge. Just make something up that sounds clever and you'll get 100%! No not really but its pretty easy. And no I'm not a complete dumba**. I'm also good at maths. What I can't get is science. Thats one f***** up subject.monkeysrfat

haha science is like my best, looks like we are the opposiotes

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#77 Whicker89
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[QUOTE="Whicker89"]lol english I got Straight C's for no reason. tarunramesh

lol, i normally get C's for english

Dear god I hope you arent going to my old school
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#78 fkholmes
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What about the people who want to become "Journalists, etc"? Also passing grades and up = Good marks. At least in Australia. Which you are in. Unless you are on of those weirdos who do nothing but work and try to get perfect marks?
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[QUOTE="monkeysrfat"]I love english. Even though I'm in an extension class its still a bludge. Just make something up that sounds clever and you'll get 100%! No not really but its pretty easy. And no I'm not a complete dumba**. I'm also good at maths. What I can't get is science. Thats one f***** up subject.tarunramesh

haha science is like my best, looks like we are the opposiotes

The thing that really annoys me with scince is that it is such a broad subject. And we always study the things I don't like. E.g chemistry, physics. And the stuff I actually find alright, e.g biology we never study. What is strange is that I'm very good at maths and geography, which are both related to science yet I suck at science.

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analyzing stories is to open your mind for interpretation and lead you further towards artistic and cultural enlightenment! duh
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What about the people who want to become "Journalists, etc"? Also passing grades and up = Good marks. At least in Australia. Which you are in. Unless you are on of those weirdos who do nothing but work and try to get perfect marks?fkholmes

well i do attempt to get perfect marks. But i can accept failure so as long as i try harder next time.

[QUOTE="tarunramesh"]

[QUOTE="monkeysrfat"]I love english. Even though I'm in an extension class its still a bludge. Just make something up that sounds clever and you'll get 100%! No not really but its pretty easy. And no I'm not a complete dumba**. I'm also good at maths. What I can't get is science. Thats one f***** up subject.monkeysrfat

haha science is like my best, looks like we are the opposiotes

The thing that really annoys me with scince is that it is such a broad subject. And we always study the things I don't like. E.g chemistry, physics. And the stuff I actually find alright, e.g biology we never study. What is strange is that I'm very good at maths and geography, which are both related to science yet I suck at science.

haha your probably one of those analytical thinkers and im properly one of those fact direct straight to the point common sense logic thinkers. Though i would prefere to think the way you do i wouldnt really know how it would work out.

analyzing stories is to open your mind for interpretation and lead you further towards artistic and cultural enlightenment! duh jimmy-fly

haha thats why form now on im goona try to make a effort to like it

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#82 Taalon
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My IT teacher told me that when he was in high school, for an English exam they had to study a passage from a poem, memorise it, write it down in the exam and then analyse what the thinking behind it was. He forgot to memorise a poem so he wrote his own in the exam, and obviously knowing what the point of it was, finished quickly.

He got 4/10.

He explained the whole story to the principal and they changed his mark to 5/10.

Yep. School is crap.
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#83 tarunramesh
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My IT teacher told me that when he was in high school, for an English exam they had to study a passage from a poem, memorise it, write it down in the exam and then analyse what the thinking behind it was. He forgot to memorise a poem so he wrote his own in the exam, and obviously knowing what the point of it was, finished quickly.

He got 4/10.

He explained the whole story to the principal and they changed his mark to 5/10.

Yep. School is crap.
Taalon

hahaha man that guy is luckly

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#84 StarFoxA
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Ouch. That sucks. English is easy for me.
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#85 tman93
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I do amazing in English, I usually have an average of like 12% above the adverage person in our state, and always get As.

I have your problem.. in Math.

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#86 tarunramesh
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Ouch. That sucks. English is easy for me.StarFoxA

lcuckly

I do amazing in English, I usually have an average of like 12% above the adverage person in our state, and always get As.

I have your problem.. in Math.

tman93

mabye we can tutor each other lol

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What about the people who want to become "Journalists, etc"? Also passing grades and up = Good marks. At least in Australia. Which you are in. Unless you are on of those weirdos who do nothing but work and try to get perfect marks?fkholmes

most papers only write up to about an eighth grade level of English.

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#88 Planeforger
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Are you in Victoria?
Here, in your final two years, you get a choice between English, Eng Literature and Eng Language...so you don't necessarily have to do any poetry interpretation (or whatever).
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I can definitely relate to the original poster. I'm stuck in the same poorly thought out Australian english curriculum as you are. As such I have taken it upon myself to start a rebellion. For example earlier this year we had to rewrite the ending of a story about an aboriginal boy who died for particular reasons. What I did was wrote an ending where he jumped out of the tree instead of fell and turned into a black ninja who killed all of the people that chased him up the tree. Unfortunately it turned out that they were all pirates. Massive battle ensues. Since then I made an effort to make each work requirement more random and controversial than the last. I also gave every piece of work the same heading "Jesus With a Pitchfork" and this semester I extended it so that the opening paragraph was exactly the same with a couple of words changed to make it relevant. If anyone wants to check it out you can find it on my myspace http://www.myspace.com/matthew_davis1990
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#90 tarunramesh
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Are you in Victoria?
Here, in your final two years, you get a choice between English, Eng Literature and Eng Language...so you don't necessarily have to do any poetry interpretation (or whatever).Planeforger

nahh im in australia, we have something similar

I can definitely relate to the original poster. I'm stuck in the same poorly thought out Australian english curriculum as you are. As such I have taken it upon myself to start a rebellion. For example earlier this year we had to rewrite the ending of a story about an aboriginal boy who died for particular reasons. What I did was wrote an ending where he jumped out of the tree instead of fell and turned into a black ninja who killed all of the people that chased him up the tree. Unfortunately it turned out that they were all pirates. Massive battle ensues. Since then I made an effort to make each work requirement more random and controversial than the last. I also gave every piece of work the same heading "Jesus With a Pitchfork" and this semester I extended it so that the opening paragraph was exactly the same with a couple of words changed to make it relevant. If anyone wants to check it out you can find it on my myspace http://www.myspace.com/matthew_davis1990 LordXelNaga

hahahahhaa man ur like my hero, i wish i would do that