i have uncovered the equation that describes the beginning of the universe!!!

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#1 4myAmuzumament
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1=/=0. nothing doesn't exist.

nothing is a silly concept to believe in because something exists and because of that, nothing is not an option. the beginning of the universe is also non-existent because it has always been "1." zero isn't a real number because you cannont posses zero of something and in this infinite universe, there is no such thing as zero, just the absence of something in certain areas.

i want OT to dicsuss the concept of nothingness as well as discussing when my my nobel prize will come in the mail.

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1=/=0. nothing doesn't exist.

nothing is a silly concept to believe in because something exists and because of that, nothing is not an option. the beginning of the universe is also non-existent because it has always been "1." zero isn't a real number because you cannont posses zero of something and in this infinite universe, there is no such thing as zero, just the absence of something in certain areas.

i want OT to dicsuss the concept of nothingness as well as discussing when my my nobel prize will come in the mail.

4myAmuzumament

Somehow I doubt it's all that simple, you didn't exist before your parents conceived you, so how does your equation explain that?

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Get off the sauce.

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I like chocolate milk. This thread is over.
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Could you stop hogging and please pass it?

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#6 4myAmuzumament
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[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"]

1=/=0. nothing doesn't exist.

nothing is a silly concept to believe in because something exists and because of that, nothing is not an option. the beginning of the universe is also non-existent because it has always been "1." zero isn't a real number because you cannont posses zero of something and in this infinite universe, there is no such thing as zero, just the absence of something in certain areas.

i want OT to dicsuss the concept of nothingness as well as discussing when my my nobel prize will come in the mail.

Yusuke420

Somehow I doubt it's all that simple, you didn't exist before your parents conceived you, so how does your equation explain that?

my essence has always existed. i was meant to be born ever since the universe was brought into fruition... which was an infinite amount of time ago.
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[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"]

1=/=0. nothing doesn't exist.

nothing is a silly concept to believe in because something exists and because of that, nothing is not an option. the beginning of the universe is also non-existent because it has always been "1." zero isn't a real number because you cannont posses zero of something and in this infinite universe, there is no such thing as zero, just the absence of something in certain areas.

i want OT to dicsuss the concept of nothingness as well as discussing when my my nobel prize will come in the mail.

4myAmuzumament

Somehow I doubt it's all that simple, you didn't exist before your parents conceived you, so how does your equation explain that?

my essence has always existed. i was meant to be born ever since the universe was brought into fruition... which was an infinite amount of time ago.

Not true at all. The universe was a little tipsy on peach schnapps and was in the back seat of a camaro. You just sort of "happened". Not planned.
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1=/=0. nothing doesn't exist.

nothing is a silly concept to believe in because something exists and because of that, nothing is not an option. the beginning of the universe is also non-existent because it has always been "1." zero isn't a real number because you cannont posses zero of something and in this infinite universe, there is no such thing as zero, just the absence of something in certain areas.

i want OT to dicsuss the concept of nothingness as well as discussing when my my nobel prize will come in the mail.

4myAmuzumament

lol

i see what you mean tho

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[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"]

1=/=0. nothing doesn't exist.

nothing is a silly concept to believe in because something exists and because of that, nothing is not an option. the beginning of the universe is also non-existent because it has always been "1." zero isn't a real number because you cannont posses zero of something and in this infinite universe, there is no such thing as zero, just the absence of something in certain areas.

i want OT to dicsuss the concept of nothingness as well as discussing when my my nobel prize will come in the mail.

4myAmuzumament

Somehow I doubt it's all that simple, you didn't exist before your parents conceived you, so how does your equation explain that?

my essence has always existed. i was meant to be born ever since the universe was brought into fruition... which was an infinite amount of time ago.

meant? Pls elaborate. Also, essence
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Roses are red

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report to the ship

we'll bang, ok?

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#11 4myAmuzumament
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[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"]my essence has always existed. i was meant to be born ever since the universe was brought into fruition... which was an infinite amount of time ago.sonicare
Not true at all. The universe was a little tipsy on peach schnapps and was in the back seat of a camaro. You just sort of "happened". Not planned.

my cells and atoms and whatever came together based on the laws of physics and chemistry taking their course. so while i see your point, my point still stands. :)
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#12 4myAmuzumament
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[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"]my essence has always existed. i was meant to be born ever since the universe was brought into fruition... which was an infinite amount of time ago.Rich3232
meant? Pls elaborate.

answer above
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#13 Rich3232
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[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"]my essence has always existed. i was meant to be born ever since the universe was brought into fruition... which was an infinite amount of time ago.4myAmuzumament
Not true at all. The universe was a little tipsy on peach schnapps and was in the back seat of a camaro. You just sort of "happened". Not planned.

my cells and atoms and whatever came together based on the laws of physics and chemistry taking their course. so while i see your point, my point still stands. :)

That's what happened, not necessarily what meant to happen. . I don't see how that validates your claim that you were "meant" to happen.
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[QUOTE="Rich3232"][QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"][QUOTE="sonicare"] Not true at all. The universe was a little tipsy on peach schnapps and was in the back seat of a camaro. You just sort of "happened". Not planned.

my cells and atoms and whatever came together based on the laws of physics and chemistry taking their course. so while i see your point, my point still stands. :)

That's what happened, not necessarily what meant to happen. . I don't see how that validates your claim that you were "meant" to happen.

it was meant to happen because it happened. ;)
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[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"][QUOTE="Rich3232"][QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"] my cells and atoms and whatever came together based on the laws of physics and chemistry taking their course. so while i see your point, my point still stands. :)

That's what happened, not necessarily what meant to happen. . I don't see how that validates your claim that you were "meant" to happen.

it was meant to happen because it happened. ;)

That seems a bit circular to me. Meant implies planning on someone's part.
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#16 GOGOGOGURT
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False.  We don't know for sure the universe is infinite.  All we know for sure is that it's very big.

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#17 4myAmuzumament
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[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"][QUOTE="Rich3232"] That's what happened, not necessarily what meant to happen. . I don't see how that validates your claim that you were "meant" to happen. Rich3232
it was meant to happen because it happened. ;)

That seems a bit circular to me. Meant implies planning on someone's part.

you think it implies that, but that's not what it implies. maybe 'destined' would have been a better word for me to use.

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Roses are red

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report to the ship

we'll bang, ok?

wis3boi

:lol:

Is that from gamer-poop? :lol: I'm using that...

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#19 4myAmuzumament
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False.  We don't know for sure the universe is infinite.  All we know for sure is that it's very big.

GOGOGOGURT
the universe that holds our physical and chemical laws may not be infinite, but the very essence of existence is infinite. if you know what i mean.
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#20 GOGOGOGURT
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[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"]

1=/=0. nothing doesn't exist.

nothing is a silly concept to believe in because something exists and because of that, nothing is not an option. the beginning of the universe is also non-existent because it has always been "1." zero isn't a real number because you cannont posses zero of something and in this infinite universe, there is no such thing as zero, just the absence of something in certain areas.

i want OT to dicsuss the concept of nothingness as well as discussing when my my nobel prize will come in the mail.

Yusuke420

Somehow I doubt it's all that simple, you didn't exist before your parents conceived you, so how does your equation explain that?

 

Fetuses are created from materials already in esistince.  Unless you believe in God!:o  God forbid!

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#21 4myAmuzumament
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Fetuses are created from materials already in existence.GOGOGOGURT
also this.
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#22 Rich3232
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[QUOTE="Rich3232"][QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"] it was meant to happen because it happened. ;)4myAmuzumament

That seems a bit circular to me. Meant implies planning on someone's part.

you think it implies that, but that's not what it implies. maybe 'destined' would have been a better word for me to use.

Even then, destiny implies an "end-goal" so to speak.
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#23 GOGOGOGURT
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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

False.  We don't know for sure the universe is infinite.  All we know for sure is that it's very big.

4myAmuzumament

the universe that holds our physical and chemical laws may not be infinite, but the very essence of existence is infinite. if you know what i mean.

 

As far as I know, existence IS chemical and physical laws.  As far as I'm concerned, the universe could be infinite and it wouldn't make a difference to ME.

 

As far as the UNIVERSE is cooncerned, it matters very much if the universe is infinite ore not, hence disproving or proving your equation.

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#24 4myAmuzumament
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[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"]

[QUOTE="Rich3232"] That seems a bit circular to me. Meant implies planning on someone's part. Rich3232

you think it implies that, but that's not what it implies. maybe 'destined' would have been a better word for me to use.

Even then, destiny implies an "end-goal" so to speak.

yup, there's an end goal for entities that exist in the universe, but everything won't become nothing because nothing isn't real. we're all subjected to the laws of the universe and its over-encompassing umbrella 'universe.'
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Also, nothing does indeed exist simply because we are talking about it.
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[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

False.  We don't know for sure the universe is infinite.  All we know for sure is that it's very big.

GOGOGOGURT

the universe that holds our physical and chemical laws may not be infinite, but the very essence of existence is infinite. if you know what i mean.

 

As far as I know, existence IS chemical and physical laws.  As far as I'm concerned, the universe could be infinite and it wouldn't make a difference to ME.

 

As far as the UNIVERSE is cooncerned, it matters very much if the universe is infinite ore not, hence disproving or proving your equation.

for my equation to be false, nothing would have to exist. nothing doesn't exist. it has always been "1". One entity that has always been here and will never "end."
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#27 4myAmuzumament
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Also, nothing does indeed exist simply because we are talking about it. Rich3232
unicorns have rainbow colored blood.
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[QUOTE="Rich3232"]Also, nothing does indeed exist simply because we are talking about it. 4myAmuzumament
unicorns have rainbow colored blood.

They exist, then. They may not exist in every imaginable instance or w/e, but they exist.
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[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"][QUOTE="Rich3232"]Also, nothing does indeed exist simply because we are talking about it. Rich3232
unicorns have rainbow colored blood.

They exist, then. They may not exist in every imaginable instance or w/e, but they exist.

so you believe in unicorns?
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[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"][QUOTE="Rich3232"][QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"] unicorns have rainbow colored blood.

They exist, then. They may not exist in every imaginable instance or w/e, but they exist.

so you believe in unicorns?

In what sense?
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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"] the universe that holds our physical and chemical laws may not be infinite, but the very essence of existence is infinite. if you know what i mean.4myAmuzumament

 

As far as I know, existence IS chemical and physical laws.  As far as I'm concerned, the universe could be infinite and it wouldn't make a difference to ME.

 

As far as the UNIVERSE is cooncerned, it matters very much if the universe is infinite ore not, hence disproving or proving your equation.

for my equation to be false, nothing would have to exist. nothing doesn't exist. it has always been "1". One entity that has always been here and will never "end."

 

I like the way you think. 

 

What about a perfect vacuum?

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zero isn't a real number4myAmuzumament

attn Manny/beans/ghokle/anyone who can math

be mad at this with me

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[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"]zero isn't a real numberBlood-Scribe

attn Manny/beans/ghokle/anyone who can math

be mad at this with me

so mad

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[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"][QUOTE="Rich3232"] They exist, then. They may not exist in every imaginable instance or w/e, but they exist. Rich3232
so you believe in unicorns?

In what sense?

good question. i don't have an answer. :P still though, nothing is a silly concept with no real meaning.
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#35 4myAmuzumament
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What about a perfect vacuum?

GOGOGOGURT
i'm not sure if such a thing exists. i would guess that it doesn't exist.

[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"]zero isn't a real numberBlood-Scribe

attn Manny/beans/ghokle/anyone who can math

be mad at this with me

can you show me zero of something? nope. zero aint real folks.
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Either every possible timeline will happen or nothing will happen. We live in something so we already know the answer. 

Theres no limit to the universe, it only gets more complex. 

Like a digital button, its either on or off. No inbetween. 

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#37 freek666
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Unity of Opposites and Eternal Recurrence, Something cannot exist unless Nothing existed prior to it in order to constitute it's Somethingness so that it may once again return to Nothingness. It's quite possible that this universe was simply a void before the death or even exponential growth of another universe or a series of multiverses allowed the void to become temporal-space and inhabit Something, thus allowing The Big Bang to occur and setting us on course for The Big Crunch.

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#38 4myAmuzumament
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Unity of Opposites and Eternal Recurrence, Something cannot exist unless Nothing existed prior to it in order to constitute it's Somethingness so that it may once again return to Nothingness. It's quite possible that this universe was simply a void before the death or even exponential growth of another universe or a series of multiverses allowed the void to become temporal-space and inhabit Something, thus allowing The Big Bang to occur and setting us on course for The Big Crunch.

freek666

if you're saying a "void" is nothing then what made it so that the void became something? whatever you describe would have to have existed during the "nothingness" for it to be real and thus my equation still stands. nothing can only truly be nothing if nothing exists, which it doesn't.

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then what made it so that the void became something?

4myAmuzumament





It's quite possible that this universe was simply a void before the death or even exponential growth of another universe or a series of multiverses allowed the void to become temporal-space and inhabit Something, thus allowing The Big Bang to occur and setting us on course for The Big Crunch.

freek666


Something allowed Nothing to become Something so that it can become Nothing in order to create Something

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[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"]

then what made it so that the void became something?

freek666





It's quite possible that this universe was simply a void before the death or even exponential growth of another universe or a series of multiverses allowed the void to become temporal-space and inhabit Something, thus allowing The Big Bang to occur and setting us on course for The Big Crunch.

freek666


Something allowed Nothing to become Something so that it can become Nothing in order to create Something

the first word in your statement disqualifies the existence of nothing.
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#41 freek666
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[QUOTE="freek666"]

[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"]

then what made it so that the void became something?

4myAmuzumament





It's quite possible that this universe was simply a void before the death or even exponential growth of another universe or a series of multiverses allowed the void to become temporal-space and inhabit Something, thus allowing The Big Bang to occur and setting us on course for The Big Crunch.

freek666


Something allowed Nothing to become Something so that it can become Nothing in order to create Something

the first word in your statement disqualifies the existence of nothing.



I've already explained that it doesnt, it actually constitutes it.

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If it came from nothing its only because there are no boundaries. So everything is possible. 

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[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"]

1=/=0. nothing doesn't exist.

nothing is a silly concept to believe in because something exists and because of that, nothing is not an option. the beginning of the universe is also non-existent because it has always been "1." zero isn't a real number because you cannont posses zero of something and in this infinite universe, there is no such thing as zero, just the absence of something in certain areas.

i want OT to dicsuss the concept of nothingness as well as discussing when my my nobel prize will come in the mail.

4myAmuzumament

Somehow I doubt it's all that simple, you didn't exist before your parents conceived you, so how does your equation explain that?

my essence has always existed. i was meant to be born ever since the universe was brought into fruition... which was an infinite amount of time ago.

Pretty sure the universe came to fruition somewhere around 13.6 billion years ago. It certainly wasn't an infinite amount of time ago.
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#44 NeonVGame
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The universe isn't infinite. But it's infinite in the sense it cannot and will never be measurable
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#45 ferrari2001
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Unity of Opposites and Eternal Recurrence, Something cannot exist unless Nothing existed prior to it in order to constitute it's Somethingness so that it may once again return to Nothingness. It's quite possible that this universe was simply a void before the death or even exponential growth of another universe or a series of multiverses allowed the void to become temporal-space and inhabit Something, thus allowing The Big Bang to occur and setting us on course for The Big Crunch.

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The Big Crunch isn't likely to occur. Ever since the discovery of dark energy that seems to be driving the galaxies farther and farther apart at a faster rate it's more likely that eventually all the matter in the universe will spread out so far that it'll be like nothing exists. This also happens to be the end of the universe proposed in Dr. Who so I think that gives it some validity.
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#46 4myAmuzumament
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[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"][QUOTE="freek666"]

[quote="freek666"]

It's quite possible that this universe was simply a void before the death or even exponential growth of another universe or a series of multiverses allowed the void to become temporal-space and inhabit Something, thus allowing The Big Bang to occur and setting us on course for The Big Crunch.

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Something allowed Nothing to become Something so that it can become Nothing in order to create Something

the first word in your statement disqualifies the existence of nothing.



I've already explained that it doesnt, it actually constitutes it.

soooo, "something allowed nothing to become something" makes sense to you? how?
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#47 4myAmuzumament
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[QUOTE="NeonVGame"]The universe isn't infinite. But it's infinite in the sense it cannot and will never be measurable

the universe isn't infinite, i agree. however, existence is infinite.
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#48 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="freek666"]

[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"] the first word in your statement disqualifies the existence of nothing.4myAmuzumament



I've already explained that it doesnt, it actually constitutes it.

soooo, "something allowed nothing to become something" makes sense to you? how?

 

You'd have to define "nothing."  The universe likely came from nothing...in terms of physics. 

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#49 4myAmuzumament
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[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"][QUOTE="freek666"]

I've already explained that it doesnt, it actually constitutes it.

wis3boi

soooo, "something allowed nothing to become something" makes sense to you? how?

 

You'd have to define "nothing."  The universe likely came from nothing...in terms of physics. 

nothing can be defined as "not something", which existence is not.
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#50 4myAmuzumament
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also, to be clear, when i say universe in this thread, i'm referring to the grand scale entity that is existence itself. so stop telling me the universe (our observable universe) isn't infinite. :P