i have uncovered the equation that describes the beginning of the universe!!!

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#51 MonsieurX
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Better post a picture of that Nobel once you receive it,can't wait.
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#52 4myAmuzumament
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Better post a picture of that Nobel once you receive it,can't wait.MonsieurX
i will. trust me. GS OT will be among the first people i tell.
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#53 Nibroc420
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nothing doesn't exist.

4myAmuzumament

Actually, "Nothing" does exist, and it can contain "something"

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2013/0325/Scientists-examine-nothing-find-something

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#54 slimdave21
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Funny equation howver I do agree with the TC in a sense. If the universe was created (according to scienctists) 13.75 billion years ago during the big bang. Then, I believe there must have been something that happened before that.

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#55 MakeMeaSammitch
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bad at math

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#56 Rich3232
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Funny equation howver I do agree with the TC in a sense. If the universe was created (according to scienctists) 13.75 billion years ago during the big bang. Then, I believe there must have been something that happened before that.

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Eventually you have to reach a point where either something was always there, or something came out of nothing.
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#57 KungfuKitten
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Well if you try to describe "the beginning of" 'something', you will of course never reach the point that 'something' does not exist.
We'd have to look at more than just this universe if you truly want to see its creation if there is any.

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#58 RocketmaN_05_88
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[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"] i'm not sure if such a thing exists. i would guess that it doesn't exist.

[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"]zero isn't a real numberBlood-Scribe

attn Manny/beans/ghokle/anyone who can math

be mad at this with me

can you show me zero of something? nope. zero aint real folks.

I really don't want to upload a bank statement but if it'll prove that nothing exists... :-/
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#59 EmpCom
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Yeah keep working on that tc you have a long way to go
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#60 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="slimdave21"]

Funny equation howver I do agree with the TC in a sense. If the universe was created (according to scienctists) 13.75 billion years ago during the big bang. Then, I believe there must have been something that happened before that.

Rich3232

Eventually you have to reach a point where either something was always there, or something came out of nothing.

Mhm.  Amazing how many people don't realize that.

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1=/=0. nothing doesn't exist.

nothing is a silly concept to believe in because something exists and because of that, nothing is not an option. the beginning of the universe is also non-existent because it has always been "1." zero isn't a real number because you cannont posses zero of something and in this infinite universe, there is no such thing as zero, just the absence of something in certain areas.

i want OT to dicsuss the concept of nothingness as well as discussing when my my nobel prize will come in the mail.

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Universe aint infinite It's expanding
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Are you another Drasonak?
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[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"]

1=/=0. nothing doesn't exist.

nothing is a silly concept to believe in because something exists and because of that, nothing is not an option. the beginning of the universe is also non-existent because it has always been "1." zero isn't a real number because you cannont posses zero of something and in this infinite universe, there is no such thing as zero, just the absence of something in certain areas.

i want OT to dicsuss the concept of nothingness as well as discussing when my my nobel prize will come in the mail.

chaoscougar1
Universe aint infinite It's expanding

explained earlier, by universe i mean the entity that is existence itself. the UNIVERSE is infinite.
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#65 4myAmuzumament
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[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"]

nothing doesn't exist.

Nibroc420

Actually, "Nothing" does exist, and it can contain "something"

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2013/0325/Scientists-examine-nothing-find-something

in the article you provided: 1) "This happens because what we think of as nothing isn't really nothing. Even if you were to create a perfect vacuum, at the quantum level it would still be populated with pairs of tiny "virtual" particles that flash in and out of existence and whose energy values fluctuate." 2) "But, as we just noted, nothing is something." both adhere to my infallible equation describing the beginning of existence and the UNIVERSE
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"]

1=/=0. nothing doesn't exist.

nothing is a silly concept to believe in because something exists and because of that, nothing is not an option. the beginning of the universe is also non-existent because it has always been "1." zero isn't a real number because you cannont posses zero of something and in this infinite universe, there is no such thing as zero, just the absence of something in certain areas.

i want OT to dicsuss the concept of nothingness as well as discussing when my my nobel prize will come in the mail.

4myAmuzumament
Universe aint infinite It's expanding

explained earlier, by universe i mean the entity that is existence itself. the UNIVERSE is infinite.

Is that fact? Facts leave no room for possibilities and I believe there are a number of possibilities therefore you are not stating facts. UNIVERSE does not share the same meaning or definition of EXISTENCE. Universe = All matter and energy, including the earth, the galaxies, and the contents of intergalactic space, regarded as a whole. Existence = The fact or state of living or having objective reality.
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#67 4myAmuzumament
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[QUOTE="RocketmaN_05_88"][QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] Universe aint infinite It's expanding

explained earlier, by universe i mean the entity that is existence itself. the UNIVERSE is infinite.

Is that fact? Facts leave no room for possibilities and I believe there are a number of possibilities therefore you are not stating facts. UNIVERSE does not share the same meaning or definition of EXISTENCE. Universe = All matter and energy, including the earth, the galaxies, and the contents of intergalactic space, regarded as a whole. Existence = The fact or state of living or having objective reality.

to me, the definitions are synonymous and interchangeable. meaning, i don't just look at the observable universe and call it THE universe. i see the entire entity of everything as "universe'". the number 1.
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#68 4myAmuzumament
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i guess the definitions need to be updated to fit my model. who do i talk to to make this happen?
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i guess the definitions need to be updated to fit my model. who do i talk to to make this happen?4myAmuzumament

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#70 4myAmuzumament
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maybe i can write a letter to NASA
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#71 wis3boi
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maybe i can write a letter to NASA4myAmuzumament

their wastebaskets are full enough

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lol
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[QUOTE="Rich3232"][QUOTE="slimdave21"]

Funny equation howver I do agree with the TC in a sense. If the universe was created (according to scienctists) 13.75 billion years ago during the big bang. Then, I believe there must have been something that happened before that.

wis3boi

Eventually you have to reach a point where either something was always there, or something came out of nothing.

Mhm.  Amazing how many people don't realize that.

Why is that? What if "something" was always here and there was never nothing? Maybe there was a universe, prior to the one we live in now... and one before that one going on Infinitely. Most things in our current Universe have a lifespan. Humans live a certain length, planets have lifespans, stars have lifespans. This means the Universe itself probably has a lifespan albeit very long. Just a side note... Why are terms like infinity and forever so hard for people to grasp?
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="Rich3232"] Eventually you have to reach a point where either something was always there, or something came out of nothing. slimdave21

Mhm.  Amazing how many people don't realize that.

Why is that? What if "something" was always here and there was never nothing? Maybe there was a universe, prior to the one we live in now... and one before that one going on Infinitely. Most things in our current Universe have a lifespan. Humans live a certain length, planets have lifespans, stars have lifespans. This means the Universe itself probably has a lifespan albeit very long. Just a side note... Why are terms like infinity and forever so hard for people to grasp?

they probably don't find it 'satisfying' and to that I say "so?"

 

Also, infinite is not something we as animals are made to deal with, so i can understand that.  We like numbers up until a certain value, and then can't picture them anymore.  I can think of 15 apples on a table accurately, but  cannot picture 5000

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#75 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"]

nothing doesn't exist.

4myAmuzumament

Actually, "Nothing" does exist, and it can contain "something"

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2013/0325/Scientists-examine-nothing-find-something

in the article you provided: 1) "This happens because what we think of as nothing isn't really nothing. Even if you were to create a perfect vacuum, at the quantum level it would still be populated with pairs of tiny "virtual" particles that flash in and out of existence and whose energy values fluctuate." 2) "But, as we just noted, nothing is something." both adhere to my infallible equation describing the beginning of existence and the UNIVERSE

Incorrect. Did you know that 90% of the mass of your body doesn't come from Protons, Neutrons, and Electrons? 90% of your mass is contained within the empty space between protons, and cannot be pinpointed to one exact location. Your view of "nothing" is flawed, as is your view on the beginning of the universe.
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#76 deactivated-5acfa3a8bc51d
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thought zero itself is infinite
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A lot of you fail to realize that time and space are the same thing. There is no one without the other, they aren't even two sides of the same coin, they're the same damn side.

Time may be something unique to our universe, even if there are others out there. Don't think about it, no one can comprehend it, but...math.

To speculate anything about 'before the big bang' is to not fully grasp the value of that fact.

Distance through time is just as spatial as the distance between me and my monitor, it's just in a different direction other than up, down, left, right, back or forward.

The speed at which you move through time is affected by the speed in which you move through space. The faster you move through space, the slower you move through time. You're diverting momentum from one direction (time) to another (distance).

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A lot of you fail to realize that time and space are the same thing. There is no one without the other, they aren't even two sides of the same coin, they're the same damn side.

Time may be something unique to our universe, even if there are others out there. Don't think about it, no one can comprehend it, but...math.

To speculate anything about 'before the big bang' is to not fully grasp the value of that fact.

Distance through time is just as spatial as the distance between me and my monitor, it's just in a different direction other than up, down, left, right, back or forward.

The speed at which you move through time is affected by the speed in which you move through space. The faster you move through space, the slower you move through time. You're diverting momentum from one direction (time) to another (distance).

br0kenrabbit
I don't think this is quite right - the implication seems to be that 'there is nothing special about the time dimension', which is not really true because time carries the opposite sign to the spatial dimensions in the Minkowski tensor, which gives spacetime a hyperbolic structure in which time plays a privileged role
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#79 br0kenrabbit
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[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

A lot of you fail to realize that time and space are the same thing. There is no one without the other, they aren't even two sides of the same coin, they're the same damn side.

Time may be something unique to our universe, even if there are others out there. Don't think about it, no one can comprehend it, but...math.

To speculate anything about 'before the big bang' is to not fully grasp the value of that fact.

Distance through time is just as spatial as the distance between me and my monitor, it's just in a different direction other than up, down, left, right, back or forward.

The speed at which you move through time is affected by the speed in which you move through space. The faster you move through space, the slower you move through time. You're diverting momentum from one direction (time) to another (distance).

MannyDelgado

I don't think this is quite right - the implication seems to be that 'there is nothing special about the time dimension', which is not really true because time carries the opposite sign to the spatial dimensions in the Minkowski tensor, which gives spacetime a hyperbolic structure in which time plays a privileged role

Oh, time is most certainly special. While it is indeed a direction of movement, it is almost the antithesis of movement over distance.

One way to look at it is a needle pulled perpetually toward Y, and movement in one of any of the 3D directions tenses that needle to Z.

The Lorentz Transformation itself assumes a 4D manifold.

 

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[QUOTE="4myAmuzumament"][QUOTE="Yusuke420"] Somehow I doubt it's all that simple, you didn't exist before your parents conceived you, so how does your equation explain that?sonicare
my essence has always existed. i was meant to be born ever since the universe was brought into fruition... which was an infinite amount of time ago.

Not true at all. The universe was a little tipsy on peach schnapps and was in the back seat of a camaro. You just sort of "happened". Not planned.

 

:lol::lol:

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I found an equation that opened my eyes.. when I was two. 1+1= Window. (Can't draw a window here unfortunately). Looking out a window is like looking outside the box.
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Nothingness= the amount of baths Russell Brand doesn't take. 

You'll get your Nobel Prize as soon as the Supreme Court announces their ruling. 

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1=/=0. nothing doesn't exist.

nothing is a silly concept to believe in because something exists and because of that, nothing is not an option. the beginning of the universe is also non-existent because it has always been "1." zero isn't a real number because you cannont posses zero of something and in this infinite universe, there is no such thing as zero, just the absence of something in certain areas.

i want OT to dicsuss the concept of nothingness as well as discussing when my my nobel prize will come in the mail.

4myAmuzumament

You cannot reference something that doesn't exist... that is part of why you cannot reference where existence ends... hence I believe it doesn't... Now stop bogarting.