i never understood why actors are so praised and famed for!

Some people worship celebreties and like to gossip about them with stupid magazines and whatnot, those people are kinda sad if you ask me. I don't worship any man as it's against my spirtual and moral beliefs, only God I worship which is not an idol or man, to do so I consider pagan. That being said there are some actors who I think are better than others and they have a good talent for making a charecter come to life and sometimes they can influence and inspire us, I think we have all seen some movies that inspired us, and the actors in those movies were responsible for that.

However I don't follow these actors around nor do I watch gossip crap about them. I don't care what actor is dating who or if they adopted a baby, I only care about their performance on screen and their ideas about it. I find it's usually the actors that arn't in the spotlight as much who are often my favorite ones, Edward Norton (Fight Club) doesn't get much starlight attention but he is great when he does.

I also think Denzel Washington is a good actor as well, the only ones I find annoying are the actors who get pushy with their views, like Whoopi Goldberg or Seth Mcfarlene ect... those people just bother me with them always acting like their views are the only ones that matter and think you should vote for this person ect... I hate that so I just ignore it.

I do think they are over paid and over praised though, but famous is natural in that field. If you were on TV/Movies being shown around the world you'd be famous too, everyone would know your face.

with all due respect for their talents, i cannot understand the big deal about acting, i too like certain actors, but still some people cheer for them like they are super human, they are not that special, they ACT it for money and all, yet some of them make people think how lucky they are to be near them, their ego and show really makes me think only idiots should care about them. to be short they act like "look its me i did Act well in that movie i am a hero" but really all he did was fake it well.swordsboy

with all due respect for their talents, i cannot understand the big deal about acting, i too like certain actors, but still some people cheer for them like they are super human, they are not that special, they ACT it for money and all, yet some of them make people think how lucky they are to be near them, their ego and show really makes me think only idiots should care about them. to be short they act like "look its me i did Act well in that movie i am a hero" but really all he did was fake it well.swordsboy

[QUOTE="Asim90"]

I fully agree with the TC. Far too much praise is given to the bottom feeders of society in my opinion... entertainers. Why does everyone worship actors and singers etc? Great musicians deserve the praise but the mediocre ones get too much. Actors are even worse. How about we show some appreciate to scientists and educators?

I guess its because people sit on their asses watching TV so Actor A is recognisable, hence the obsessions and pathetic behaviour.

EDIT: I also think athletes shouldn't be obsessed over, however I don't put them in the same category as entertainers. Athletes strive and work hard for a personal goal. Their success often motivates people to take up physical activities which are healthy. Actors just encourage people to watch television and waste their lives away.

worlock77

Do you enjoy certain movies, television shows, video games, etc? Do you feel they enrich your life in someway?

I do enjoy some entertainment, I'm not saying that entertainers are bad people they just get far too much praise and attention. Let's be clear, entertainment shouldn't be ones focus in life. Doing something productive is far better than wasting time. I'm not saying a moderate amount of time passing is bad, but in todays age it is terribly non proportional.

Also, no movie, tv show or video game has enriched my life. They're fun and pass the time, but they do not enrich life at all. That is just silly since I could quite easily live without them and probably be a better person for it.

Edit: When I say entertainment I'm solely referring to media entertainment like TV and video games. Obviously there are different forms of entertainment, some people are entertained by reading books.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Asim90"]

I fully agree with the TC. Far too much praise is given to the bottom feeders of society in my opinion... entertainers. Why does everyone worship actors and singers etc? Great musicians deserve the praise but the mediocre ones get too much. Actors are even worse. How about we show some appreciate to scientists and educators?

I guess its because people sit on their asses watching TV so Actor A is recognisable, hence the obsessions and pathetic behaviour.

EDIT: I also think athletes shouldn't be obsessed over, however I don't put them in the same category as entertainers. Athletes strive and work hard for a personal goal. Their success often motivates people to take up physical activities which are healthy. Actors just encourage people to watch television and waste their lives away.

Asim90

Do you enjoy certain movies, television shows, video games, etc? Do you feel they enrich your life in someway?

I do enjoy some entertainment, I'm not saying that entertainers are bad people they just get far too much praise and attention. Let's be clear, entertainment shouldn't be ones focus in life. Doing something productive is far better than wasting time. I'm not saying a moderate amount of time passing is bad, but in todays age it is terribly non proportional.

Also, no movie, tv show or video game has enriched my life. They're fun and pass the time, but they do not enrich life at all. That is just silly since I could quite easily live without them and probably be a better person for it.

Edit: When I say entertainment I'm solely referring to media entertainment like TV and video games. Obviously there are different forms of entertainment, some people are entertained by reading books.

If you gather enjoyment from it then yes, it is enriching your life. And it's funny, for some who doesn't think entertainers are bad people the phrase "bottom feeders of society" certains implies the opposite.

[QUOTE="Asim90"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Do you enjoy certain movies, television shows, video games, etc? Do you feel they enrich your life in someway?

worlock77

I do enjoy some entertainment, I'm not saying that entertainers are bad people they just get far too much praise and attention. Let's be clear, entertainment shouldn't be ones focus in life. Doing something productive is far better than wasting time. I'm not saying a moderate amount of time passing is bad, but in todays age it is terribly non proportional.

Also, no movie, tv show or video game has enriched my life. They're fun and pass the time, but they do not enrich life at all. That is just silly since I could quite easily live without them and probably be a better person for it.

Edit: When I say entertainment I'm solely referring to media entertainment like TV and video games. Obviously there are different forms of entertainment, some people are entertained by reading books.

If you gather enjoyment from it then yes, it is enriching your life. And it's funny, for some who doesn't think entertainers are bad people the phrase "bottom feeders of society" certains implies the opposite.

No it doesn't. Something that enriches life is something that improves it. Media Entertainment is a passive medium that serves mainly as a distraction. It doesn't enrich anything at all. Maybe bottom feeders is harsh, but they do nothing productive for society. Why aren't educators and academics given some spotlight for a change? Those are people who deserve it.

Also, I'm mainly referring to what comes out of Hollywood and the vast majority of television but not all. For instance, I love to watch David Attonborough documentaries, those to me actually inspire. It depends on the content, but I'm referring to pop culture and common media.

Acting is alot harder than you think.

I hate professional sports simply because they get paid millions of dollars to do nothing that contributes to society or culture, when people like scientists and artists scrape by when they are the ones making all of the innovations that drive culture and society. At least the working man gets paid a steady paycheck to keep the mainstream running smooth.

WiiCubeM1

youy are delusional, they do contribute to society, do you think the millions and millions of fans they have are for nothing?, dont hate something because you don't like it.

as for tc, they are good at what they do, communicating the feeling and the character of someone in the movie to make it believable, i don't see whats wrong with that, its their job, and i like people who are good at their job

what i don't understand is how people are dumbb enough to worship them as they do.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Asim90"]

I do enjoy some entertainment, I'm not saying that entertainers are bad people they just get far too much praise and attention. Let's be clear, entertainment shouldn't be ones focus in life. Doing something productive is far better than wasting time. I'm not saying a moderate amount of time passing is bad, but in todays age it is terribly non proportional.

Also, no movie, tv show or video game has enriched my life. They're fun and pass the time, but they do not enrich life at all. That is just silly since I could quite easily live without them and probably be a better person for it.

Edit: When I say entertainment I'm solely referring to media entertainment like TV and video games. Obviously there are different forms of entertainment, some people are entertained by reading books.

Asim90

If you gather enjoyment from it then yes, it is enriching your life. And it's funny, for some who doesn't think entertainers are bad people the phrase "bottom feeders of society" certains implies the opposite.

No it doesn't. Something that enriches life is something that improves it. Media Entertainment is a passive medium that serves mainly as a distraction. It doesn't enrich anything at all. Maybe bottom feeders is harsh, but they do nothing productive for society. Why aren't educators and academics given some spotlight for a change? Those are people who deserve it.

Also, I'm mainly referring to what comes out of Hollywood and the vast majority of television but not all. For instance, I love to watch David Attonborough documentaries, those to me actually inspire. It depends on the content, but I'm referring to pop culture and common media.

They do contribute to society. What is a society without art? A society without art is a society without culture. And educators are, frankly, a dime a dozen. Anyone with a college degree can be an educator. They might be preparing the next generation, but they're easily replaceable. And someone who wants money or spotlight who goes into teaching has the wrong motivation and probably shouldn't be teaching.

[QUOTE="mahlasor"]

:? My point is that sports are an integral component to many cultures throughout the world

-Sun_Tzu-

I know but, what does that have to do with tc's point?

@dagreenfish

Most people are in debt, so I guess being in debt is better than not being in debt? You are argueing that majority preference conveys value. The TC is argueing that they are overrated. In my opinion they only make that much because they are socially connected, very well known. How much money you make is based kind of on how well known, or who you know. Intelligence is subjective. For example... Justin Bieber probably makes more money than some of the best musicians in history, because of a bunch of kids with their parents money wanted to see him. Its is very strange how people worship certain people. Justin Bieber is a weird kid. I do not believe in relativist principles that value is subjective, I think there is a good way to measure value of certain people. It is all mostly social.

edit: this is getting into an arguement why teachers should get paid more, difference is a teacher only is connected to a small group of people, while athletes are connection to millions of people. Still I think people who pay 100 dollars to sit in a uncomfortable seat is not thinking critically.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

[QUOTE="mahlasor"]

:? My point is that sports are an integral component to many cultures throughout the world

mahlasor

I know but, what does that have to do with tc's point?

@dagreenfish

Most people are in debt, so I guess being in debt is better than not being in debt? You are argueing that majority preference conveys value. The TC is argueing that they are overrated. In my opinion they only make that much because they are socially connected, very well known. How much money you make is based kind of on how well known, or who you know. Intelligence is subjective. For example... Justin Bieber probably makes more money than some of the best musicians in history, because of a bunch of kids with their parents money wanted to see him. Its is very strange how people worship certain people. Justin Bieber is a weird kid. I do not believe in relativist principles that value is subjective, I think there is a good way to measure value of certain people. It is all mostly social.

edit: this is getting into an arguement why teachers should get paid more, difference is a teacher only is connected to a small group of people, while athletes are connection to millions of people. Still I think people who pay 100 dollars to sit in a uncomfortable seat is not thinking critically.

Direct your complaints to your media outlets.

[QUOTE="Asim90"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

If you gather enjoyment from it then yes, it is enriching your life. And it's funny, for some who doesn't think entertainers are bad people the phrase "bottom feeders of society" certains implies the opposite.

worlock77

No it doesn't. Something that enriches life is something that improves it. Media Entertainment is a passive medium that serves mainly as a distraction. It doesn't enrich anything at all. Maybe bottom feeders is harsh, but they do nothing productive for society. Why aren't educators and academics given some spotlight for a change? Those are people who deserve it.

Also, I'm mainly referring to what comes out of Hollywood and the vast majority of television but not all. For instance, I love to watch David Attonborough documentaries, those to me actually inspire. It depends on the content, but I'm referring to pop culture and common media.

They do contribute to society. What is a society without art? A society without art is a society without culture. And educators are, frankly, a dime a dozen. Anyone with a college degree can be an educator. They might be preparing the next generation, but they're easily replaceable. And someone who wants money or spotlight who goes into teaching has the wrong motivation and probably shouldn't be teaching.

Since when did Hollywood produce art? How much of TV in general is art? 99% of the stuff on TV or the radio is garbage, its manufactured rubbish. Even music has lost its essence. If you want art, play Marvin Gaye from the 70's, now that is art. This is my opinion of course.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Asim90"]

No it doesn't. Something that enriches life is something that improves it. Media Entertainment is a passive medium that serves mainly as a distraction. It doesn't enrich anything at all. Maybe bottom feeders is harsh, but they do nothing productive for society. Why aren't educators and academics given some spotlight for a change? Those are people who deserve it.

Also, I'm mainly referring to what comes out of Hollywood and the vast majority of television but not all. For instance, I love to watch David Attonborough documentaries, those to me actually inspire. It depends on the content, but I'm referring to pop culture and common media.

Asim90

They do contribute to society. What is a society without art? A society without art is a society without culture. And educators are, frankly, a dime a dozen. Anyone with a college degree can be an educator. They might be preparing the next generation, but they're easily replaceable. And someone who wants money or spotlight who goes into teaching has the wrong motivation and probably shouldn't be teaching.

Since when did Hollywood produce art? How much of TV in general is art? 99% of the stuff on TV or the radio is garbage, its manufactured rubbish. Even music has lost its essence. If you want art, play Marvin Gaye from the 70's, now that is art. This is my opinion of course.

It is art. Whether you like it or not does not change that. I myself dislike Marvin Gaye, but I would never claim that his work is not art. That would just be arrogantly ignorant on my part.

edit: this is getting into an arguement why teachers should get paid more, difference is a teacher only is connected to a small group of people, while athletes are connection to millions of people. Still I think people who pay 100 dollars to sit in a uncomfortable seat is not thinking critically.mahlasor

Personally I've never paid more than $25 to go to a ballgame. Some people pay $100 sure, but they can spare it easily. $100 to them is like $25 is to me. I always love whan people presume to dictate how others should spend their money.

[QUOTE="Asim90"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

They do contribute to society. What is a society without art? A society without art is a society without culture. And educators are, frankly, a dime a dozen. Anyone with a college degree can be an educator. They might be preparing the next generation, but they're easily replaceable. And someone who wants money or spotlight who goes into teaching has the wrong motivation and probably shouldn't be teaching.

worlock77

Since when did Hollywood produce art? How much of TV in general is art? 99% of the stuff on TV or the radio is garbage, its manufactured rubbish. Even music has lost its essence. If you want art, play Marvin Gaye from the 70's, now that is art. This is my opinion of course.

I myself dislike Marvin Gaye

:o:o:o:o:o

Listen to this and tell me you dislike Marvin Gaye! -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usl-h5f-8W0

I'm just kidding.. You can dislike who you want. But seriously, listen to that song! :P

How can people dislike Marvine Gaye? Bizarre.

How can people dislike Marvine Gaye? Bizarre.

Ilovegames1992

I know. The idea that people have differing tastes is rather incomprehensible.

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

How can people dislike Marvine Gaye? Bizarre.

worlock77

I know. The idea that people have differing tastes is rather incomprehensible.

Did you listen to that song? You will be converted my friend.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

How can people dislike Marvine Gaye? Bizarre.

Asim90

I know. The idea that people have differing tastes is rather incomprehensible.

Did you listen to that song? You will be converted my friend.

Is this song drastically different from the rest of Marvin Gaye's output?

[QUOTE="Asim90"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

I know. The idea that people have differing tastes is rather incomprehensible.

worlock77

Did you listen to that song? You will be converted my friend.

Is this song drastically different from the rest of Marvin Gaye's output?

Listen to it! :D

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Asim90"]

Did you listen to that song? You will be converted my friend.

Asim90

Is this song drastically different from the rest of Marvin Gaye's output?

Listen to it! :D

Is this song drastically different from the rest of Marvin Gaye's output? I see no reason to interrupt music I actually do enjoy if it isn't.

[QUOTE="Asim90"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Is this song drastically different from the rest of Marvin Gaye's output?

worlock77

Listen to it! :D

Is this song drastically different from the rest of Marvin Gaye's output? I see no reason to interrupt music I actually do enjoy if it isn't.

Ok forget it.. You could have just listened to one minute of it ages ago. But you seem stubborn to try. :|

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Asim90"]

Listen to it! :D

Asim90

Is this song drastically different from the rest of Marvin Gaye's output? I see no reason to interrupt music I actually do enjoy if it isn't.

Ok forget it.. You could have just listened to one minute of it ages ago. But you seem stubborn to try. :|

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

How can people dislike Marvine Gaye? Bizarre.

worlock77

I know. The idea that people have differing tastes is rather incomprehensible.

No. It's just, he's Marvin Gaye...

[QUOTE="Asim90"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Is this song drastically different from the rest of Marvin Gaye's output? I see no reason to interrupt music I actually do enjoy if it isn't.

pie-junior

Ok forget it.. You could have just listened to one minute of it ages ago. But you seem stubborn to try. :|

He might like it.... Duh!

[QUOTE="pie-junior"][QUOTE="Asim90"]

Ok forget it.. You could have just listened to one minute of it ages ago. But you seem stubborn to try. :|

Asim90

He might like it.... Duh!

I do not care for the music of Marvin Gaye (and yes, I've heard plenty of it), so unless this is somehow different from the rest of his music I'm not going to like it.

I don't get it either, it's all just a fake act.

When an actor crys he should actually cry, when he loves he should really love, when they kill off the character they should kill the actor.

I don't get it either, it's all just a fake act.

When an actor crys he should actually cry, when he loves he should really love, when they kill off the character they should kill the actor.

When someone can stand up in front of an audience and become an entirely different person; to briefly live another life, is an art. Those who cannot respect acting are simply jealous, in my opinion.harashawn

What is there to be jealous of? Why would I want to pretend to be someone else when I can devote my life to learning? I'd much rather be a scientist or a doctor than act for a living.

If a person wants to be an actor thats fine, but to say that anyone who disagrees is jealous is just small minded and shows an insecurity in my opinion. Face the fact that people can see things differently.

[QUOTE="harashawn"]When someone can stand up in front of an audience and become an entirely different person; to briefly live another life, is an art. Those who cannot respect acting are simply jealous, in my opinion.Asim90

What is there to be jealous of? Why would I want to pretend to be someone else when I can devote my life to learning? I'd much rather be a scientist or a doctor than act for a living.

If a person wants to be an actor thats fine, but to say that anyone who disagrees is jealous is just small minded and shows an insecurity in my opinion. Face the fact that people can see things differently.

[QUOTE="Asim90"]

[QUOTE="harashawn"]When someone can stand up in front of an audience and become an entirely different person; to briefly live another life, is an art. Those who cannot respect acting are simply jealous, in my opinion.harashawn

What is there to be jealous of? Why would I want to pretend to be someone else when I can devote my life to learning? I'd much rather be a scientist or a doctor than act for a living.

If a person wants to be an actor thats fine, but to say that anyone who disagrees is jealous is just small minded and shows an insecurity in my opinion. Face the fact that people can see things differently.

I see what you're saying but jealousy isn't exclusive to actors. People will always be jealous of others who are successful regardless of what they do. It just seems magnified with actors since they are widely recognisable.

[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]

I hate professional sports simply because they get paid millions of dollars to do nothing that contributes to society or culture, when people like scientists and artists scrape by when they are the ones making all of the innovations that drive culture and society. At least the working man gets paid a steady paycheck to keep the mainstream running smooth.

Krelian-co

youy are delusional, they do contribute to society, do you think the millions and millions of fans they have are for nothing?, dont hate something because you don't like it.

as for tc, they are good at what they do, communicating the feeling and the character of someone in the movie to make it believable, i don't see whats wrong with that, its their job, and i like people who are good at their job

what i don't understand is how people are dumbb enough to worship them as they do.

I was REALLY stressed out and tired yesterday morning, so I feel I have to explain myself a little bit less "hatey". I don't hate sports. I love sports (just not a huge fan of football). Sports are a game, a form of entertainment that has existed for as long as intelligent humans have existed. In today's society, besides bringing entertainment to the masses and provide some supports local economy, what else do professional sports do? They pack seats, waste time (in the good way, sports are not a waste of time), and take your mind off of whatever you are thinking about. In my mind, though, athletes are about as crucial to human progress as actors, dead people, and Justin Bieber. It's not that they don;t contribute to society, it's that they do nothing to further human development. Football isn't going to solve the fuel crisis, movies won't solve World hunger, Bieber won't end wars (he'll just start them). Science solves the answers of life and creates things that improve our standards of living, charities improve life for groups of people, politicians (at least in theory) keep our society in check and prevent total chaos, art can bring people together and send messages few other forms of communication can tell. Football kills 2 to 3 hours on Sunday nights. Why should they be the ones making millions and raking in world recognition, when the people who truly make a difference are for the most part middle-class and unknown. Why do the brainless idiots in high school who are good at sports get special treatment in classes when the eggheads are treated like sh*t? (generic, I know, but it's true for the most part). Again, I don't hate sports, but they don't deserve the life they get.

Because some good actors make good movies.

Just like when you got to an art museum to see paintings from your favorite artist. Same goes with music and such. I don't get all involved in their social life, if that's what you are asking. I like them for their work, not because of who they are.