I think I've finally figured whats gone wrong with rock

[QUOTE="jimmygrace"]

The Killers don't sound anything like 80's rock.They sound like a bad combination of U2, Jet, and Coldplay.

LJS9502_basic

Wrong. The Killers are channeling 80's rock. What 80's bands are you familiar with?

When I think 80's rock I think of AC/DC, Aerosmith, Van Halen, Ozzy Osbourne, KISS, Metallica, and so on.

i don't like those bands either, but im getting a little tired of you making these threads over and overscary_snake

Were you forced to click on it?

[QUOTE="scary_snake"]i don't like those bands either, but im getting a little tired of you making these threads over and overjimmygrace

Were you forced to click on it?

pedobear made me:cry:

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="jimmygrace"]

The Killers don't sound anything like 80's rock.They sound like a bad combination of U2, Jet, and Coldplay.

jimmygrace

Wrong. The Killers are channeling 80's rock. What 80's bands are you familiar with?

When I think 80's rock I think of AC/DC, Aerosmith, Van Halen, Ozzy Osbourne, KISS, Metallica, and so on.

So...exactly one genre. Here's a hint....listen to 80's post punk/new wave...you'll see some of the influences of The Killers.

[QUOTE="TERMINAT0R1"]

Problems:

1. Girly, nasal-only voices
2. Guitars are only power chords. No more awesome solos.
3. Emos
4. Most bands revolve solely around the color black
5. No awesome lyrics anymore
6. Too much computer/synthesizer use. Guitar, bass, drums, maybe piano. That's all you need.
7. Too much depression. Sing about something positive, like, say, LOVE. The best bands ever wrote about love, not depression.

I'm sure there's more I forgot about.

NearTheEnd

Oh, wait.

You also forgot the fact that people only make music that's gonna sell. People don't buy real rock anymore. One of the greatest guitarists of the last decade (Jack White) doesn't sell nearly as many records as these rappers and cookie cutter stars (I'm looking at you Britney, Jessica, Christina, Linsey, etc). That isn't to say that it's all bad, just to say that rock doesn't sell like it used to.

But great music is still around. Stadium Arcadium has some hot guitar licks, on the otherhand I saw this video of The Killers playing Romeo and Juliet by Dire Straits and they totally left out the lead guitar part (the best part) probably cause no one in the band has enough talent to actually pull of Knofler's amazing lead guitar parts.

Hey, I think synthesizers aregreat if the band plays them live. Like if a member plays the keyboards, but uses a synthesizer keyboard.

I love new wave, and if a band plays everything electronic live, by themselves, its cool by me.

(Synthesizers require you to know how to play piano, but programming the sound onboard is the electro part.

I personally liked The Killers version of Romeo and juliet.

Dont rag on the guitar player, you don't know if he has the talent or not.

I personally liked The Killers version of Romeo and juliet.

Dont rag on the guitar player, you don't know if he has the talent or not.

Shmiity

me too, i like that version a lot

Problems:

1. Girly, nasal-only voices
2. Guitars are only power chords. No more awesome solos.
3. Emos
4. Most bands revolve solely around the color black
5. No awesome lyrics anymore
6. Too much computer/synthesizer use. Guitar, bass, drums, maybe piano. That's all you need.
7. Too much depression. Sing about something positive, like, say, LOVE. The best bands ever wrote about love, not depression.

I'm sure there's more I forgot about.

TERMINAT0R1

sounds about right too me.

Exactly, JW never sells as much as he should but he freakin jams. The new white stripes album is pretty good, but then again all the music they made was pretty good especially when compairing it to the fallout boy/PATD crap thats all over the place these days.

Whatever happened to rockers gangbanging groupies 10 at a time, trashing hotel rooms and stage-diving while nailing a 6 minute guitar solo and spitting blood on the crowd? :?

Bands imitate what is popular because they obviously see it as the easiest way to make the most money.That's why in the 70s and 80s and very early 90s you saw so many similar types of music.But then once bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Fall Out Boy and so on became the most popular music you see so many other bands who might actually have talent imitate those styles because its the surest thing to make money.I think if we had a great band once again who made big hit after big hit and didn't have the girly singing voice and whatnot we would see more bands trying to imitate good music again.jimmygrace

Glad someone came out with this. But I'll take this one further: All rock is garbage. Complete garbage. When you're buying a rock album, you're basically buying a product. If you bought a classical album - you'd be buying art. The point of rock music is to be as catchy as you can, while trying to look "cool" while you're at it. It's a crock of crap. Only a few bands in rock are worth mentioning as being decent. I don't care what you tell me either, Led Zep and The Beatles suck. I'm not even going to bother saying "they're only in it for the money" because that's the purpose of rock in the first place. I'd rather listen to meaningful or artistic music atleast.

[QUOTE="jimmygrace"]Bands imitate what is popular because they obviously see it as the easiest way to make the most money.That's why in the 70s and 80s and very early 90s you saw so many similar types of music.But then once bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Fall Out Boy and so on became the most popular music you see so many other bands who might actually have talent imitate those styles because its the surest thing to make money.I think if we had a great band once again who made big hit after big hit and didn't have the girly singing voice and whatnot we would see more bands trying to imitate good music again.GodLovesDead

Glad someone came out with this. But I'll take this one further: All rock is garbage. Complete garbage. When you're buying a rock album, you're basically buying a product. If you bought a classical album - you'd be buying art. The point of rock music is to be as catchy as you can, while trying to look "cool" while you're at it. It's a crock of crap. Only a few bands in rock are worth mentioning as being decent. I don't care what you tell me either, Led Zep and The Beatles suck. I'm not even going to bother saying "they're only in it for the money" because that's the purpose of rock in the first place. I'd rather listen to meaningful or artistic music atleast.

Who the hell are you to say what is artistic and meaningful to someone?

[QUOTE="jimmygrace"]Bands imitate what is popular because they obviously see it as the easiest way to make the most money.That's why in the 70s and 80s and very early 90s you saw so many similar types of music.But then once bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Fall Out Boy and so on became the most popular music you see so many other bands who might actually have talent imitate those styles because its the surest thing to make money.I think if we had a great band once again who made big hit after big hit and didn't have the girly singing voice and whatnot we would see more bands trying to imitate good music again.GodLovesDead

Glad someone came out with this. But I'll take this one further: All rock is garbage. Complete garbage. When you're buying a rock album, you're basically buying a product. If you bought a classical album - you'd be buying art. The point of rock music is to be as catchy as you can, while trying to look "cool" while you're at it. It's a crock of crap. Only a few bands in rock are worth mentioning as being decent. I don't care what you tell me either, Led Zep and The Beatles suck. I'm not even going to bother saying "they're only in it for the money" because that's the purpose of rock in the first place. I'd rather listen to meaningful or artistic music atleast.

led zep and the beatles suck?lol wut!
all(underlined all)rock music is only in it for the money!
your full of crap.
the beatles,not meaningfull lol.funniest thing ive heard all day.
what exactly do you listen too?lets all bow down to you because your "cl@sical music" (i assume your talking about flutes,trumpets,violins,ect)is sooooooo much better.

[QUOTE="jimmygrace"]Bands imitate what is popular because they obviously see it as the easiest way to make the most money.That's why in the 70s and 80s and very early 90s you saw so many similar types of music.But then once bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Fall Out Boy and so on became the most popular music you see so many other bands who might actually have talent imitate those styles because its the surest thing to make money.I think if we had a great band once again who made big hit after big hit and didn't have the girly singing voice and whatnot we would see more bands trying to imitate good music again.GodLovesDead

Glad someone came out with this. But I'll take this one further: All rock is garbage. Complete garbage. When you're buying a rock album, you're basically buying a product. If you bought a classical album - you'd be buying art. The point of rock music is to be as catchy as you can, while trying to look "cool" while you're at it. It's a crock of crap. Only a few bands in rock are worth mentioning as being decent. I don't care what you tell me either, Led Zep and The Beatles suck. I'm not even going to bother saying "they're only in it for the money" because that's the purpose of rock in the first place. I'd rather listen to meaningful or artistic music atleast.

Classical music was created for money.....

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]

[QUOTE="jimmygrace"]Bands imitate what is popular because they obviously see it as the easiest way to make the most money.That's why in the 70s and 80s and very early 90s you saw so many similar types of music.But then once bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Fall Out Boy and so on became the most popular music you see so many other bands who might actually have talent imitate those styles because its the surest thing to make money.I think if we had a great band once again who made big hit after big hit and didn't have the girly singing voice and whatnot we would see more bands trying to imitate good music again.guitboxdude25

Glad someone came out with this. But I'll take this one further: All rock is garbage. Complete garbage. When you're buying a rock album, you're basically buying a product. If you bought a classical album - you'd be buying art. The point of rock music is to be as catchy as you can, while trying to look "cool" while you're at it. It's a crock of crap. Only a few bands in rock are worth mentioning as being decent. I don't care what you tell me either, Led Zep and The Beatles suck. I'm not even going to bother saying "they're only in it for the money" because that's the purpose of rock in the first place. I'd rather listen to meaningful or artistic music atleast.

led zep and the beatles suck?lol wut!
all(underlined all)rock music is only in it for the money!
your full of crap.
the beatles,not meaningfull lol.funniest thing ive heard all day.
what exactly do you listen too?lets all bow down to you because your "cl@sical music" (i assume your talking about flutes,trumpets,violins,ect)is sooooooo much better.

Obviously not all rock is in it for the most, but just about all of it is. I guess The Beatles is meaningful, if you are as shallow as a puddle of water musically. Good post too, It's so "well done" that I don't even need to make an argument.

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]

[QUOTE="jimmygrace"]Bands imitate what is popular because they obviously see it as the easiest way to make the most money.That's why in the 70s and 80s and very early 90s you saw so many similar types of music.But then once bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Fall Out Boy and so on became the most popular music you see so many other bands who might actually have talent imitate those **** because its the surest thing to make money.I think if we had a great band once again who made big hit after big hit and didn't have the girly singing voice and whatnot we would see more bands trying to imitate good music again.LJS9502_basic

Glad someone came out with this. But I'll take this one further: All rock is garbage. Complete garbage. When you're buying a rock album, you're basically buying a product. If you bought a ****cal album - you'd be buying art. The point of rock music is to be as catchy as you can, while trying to look "cool" while you're at it. It's a crock of crap. Only a few bands in rock are worth mentioning as being decent. I don't care what you tell me either, Led Zep and The Beatles suck. I'm not even going to bother saying "they're only in it for the money" because that's the purpose of rock in the first place. I'd rather listen to meaningful or artistic music atleast.

Cl*ssical music was created for money.....

Since all Cl*assical composers are filthy rich =

Oh...wait..

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Classical music was created for money.....

GodLovesDead

Since all Cl*assical composers are filthy rich =

Oh...wait..

Modern composers are not poor...and back in the day the composers had patrons....that paid them...GET THIS...to create music for them.

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Classical music was created for money.....

LJS9502_basic

Since all Cl*assical composers are filthy rich =

Oh...wait..

Modern composers are not poor...and back in the day the composers had patrons....that paid them...GET THIS...to create music for them.

[QUOTE="jimmygrace"]Bands imitate what is popular because they obviously see it as the easiest way to make the most money.That's why in the 70s and 80s and very early 90s you saw so many similar types of music.But then once bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Fall Out Boy and so on became the most popular music you see so many other bands who might actually have talent imitate those styles because its the surest thing to make money.I think if we had a great band once again who made big hit after big hit and didn't have the girly singing voice and whatnot we would see more bands trying to imitate good music again.GodLovesDead

Glad someone came out with this. But I'll take this one further: All rock is garbage. Complete garbage. When you're buying a rock album, you're basically buying a product. If you bought a classical album - you'd be buying art. The point of rock music is to be as catchy as you can, while trying to look "cool" while you're at it. It's a crock of crap. Only a few bands in rock are worth mentioning as being decent. I don't care what you tell me either, Led Zep and The Beatles suck. I'm not even going to bother saying "they're only in it for the money" because that's the purpose of rock in the first place. I'd rather listen to meaningful or artistic music atleast.

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]

[QUOTE="jimmygrace"]Bands imitate what is popular because they obviously see it as the easiest way to make the most money.That's why in the 70s and 80s and very early 90s you saw so many similar types of music.But then once bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Fall Out Boy and so on became the most popular music you see so many other bands who might actually have talent imitate those styles because its the surest thing to make money.I think if we had a great band once again who made big hit after big hit and didn't have the girly singing voice and whatnot we would see more bands trying to imitate good music again.NearTheEnd

Glad someone came out with this. But I'll take this one further: All rock is garbage. Complete garbage. When you're buying a rock album, you're basically buying a product. If you bought a classical album - you'd be buying art. The point of rock music is to be as catchy as you can, while trying to look "cool" while you're at it. It's a crock of crap. Only a few bands in rock are worth mentioning as being decent. I don't care what you tell me either, Led Zep and The Beatles suck. I'm not even going to bother saying "they're only in it for the money" because that's the purpose of rock in the first place. I'd rather listen to meaningful or artistic music atleast.

lol Seriously.

"When you're buying a rock album, you're basically buying a product. If you bought a classical album - you'd be buying art." lol

[QUOTE="guitboxdude25"][QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]

[QUOTE="jimmygrace"]Bands imitate what is popular because they obviously see it as the easiest way to make the most money.That's why in the 70s and 80s and very early 90s you saw so many similar types of music.But then once bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Fall Out Boy and so on became the most popular music you see so many other bands who might actually have talent imitate those styles because its the surest thing to make money.I think if we had a great band once again who made big hit after big hit and didn't have the girly singing voice and whatnot we would see more bands trying to imitate good music again.GodLovesDead

Glad someone came out with this. But I'll take this one further: All rock is garbage. Complete garbage. When you're buying a rock album, you're basically buying a product. If you bought a classical album - you'd be buying art. The point of rock music is to be as catchy as you can, while trying to look "cool" while you're at it. It's a crock of crap. Only a few bands in rock are worth mentioning as being decent. I don't care what you tell me either, Led Zep and The Beatles suck. I'm not even going to bother saying "they're only in it for the money" because that's the purpose of rock in the first place. I'd rather listen to meaningful or artistic music atleast.

led zep and the beatles suck?lol wut!
all(underlined all)rock music is only in it for the money!
your full of crap.
the beatles,not meaningfull lol.funniest thing ive heard all day.
what exactly do you listen too?lets all bow down to you because your "cl@sical music" (i assume your talking about flutes,trumpets,violins,ect)is sooooooo much better.

Obviously not all rock is in it for the most, but just about all of it is. I guess The Beatles is meaningful, if you are as shallow as a puddle of water musically. Good post too, It's so "well done" that I don't even need to make an argument.

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]

really?is that so?tell me,whats so shallow about let it be?
oes nos!my post wasnt wells dun!omg!please,stop trying to act like a smart ass.

really?is that so?tell me,whats so shallow about let it be?
oes nos!my post wasnt wells dun!omg!please,stop trying to act like a smart ass.guitboxdude25

dumb post for him =/= smart post for you

[QUOTE="jimmygrace"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]There's nothing wrong with rock. It would have died out if everyone continued to make the same music as the 60's and 70's. Alternative FTW.d51man

Well thats only because you like today's rock.

Yeah, well he's right. Rock wouldn't even be around if it was the same as the 60's and 70's. People would've been bored with it after 30 or 40 years :roll: It's the same for Fall Out Boy and My Chemical Romance and all those other garbage bands. They'll all be gone soon enough.

[QUOTE="d51man"][QUOTE="jimmygrace"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]There's nothing wrong with rock. It would have died out if everyone continued to make the same music as the 60's and 70's. Alternative FTW.iloverikku11

Well thats only because you like today's rock.

Yeah, well he's right. Rock wouldn't even be around if it was the same as the 60's and 70's. People would've been bored with it after 30 or 40 years :roll: It's the same for Fall Out Boy and My Chemical Romance and all those other garbage bands. They'll all be gone soon enough.

[QUOTE="jimmygrace"]Bands imitate what is popular because they obviously see it as the easiest way to make the most money.That's why in the 70s and 80s and very early 90s you saw so many similar types of music.But then once bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Fall Out Boy and so on became the most popular music you see so many other bands who might actually have talent imitate those styles because its the surest thing to make money.I think if we had a great band once again who made big hit after big hit and didn't have the girly singing voice and whatnot we would see more bands trying to imitate good music again.GodLovesDead

Glad someone came out with this. But I'll take this one further: All rock is garbage. Complete garbage. When you're buying a rock album, you're basically buying a product. If you bought a classical album - you'd be buying art. The point of rock music is to be as catchy as you can, while trying to look "cool" while you're at it. It's a crock of crap. Only a few bands in rock are worth mentioning as being decent. I don't care what you tell me either, Led Zep and The Beatles suck. I'm not even going to bother saying "they're only in it for the money" because that's the purpose of rock in the first place. I'd rather listen to meaningful or artistic music atleast.

[QUOTE="jimmygrace"]Bands imitate what is popular because they obviously see it as the easiest way to make the most money.That's why in the 70s and 80s and very early 90s you saw so many similar types of music.But then once bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Fall Out Boy and so on became the most popular music you see so many other bands who might actually have talent imitate those styles because its the surest thing to make money.I think if we had a great band once again who made big hit after big hit and didn't have the girly singing voice and whatnot we would see more bands trying to imitate good music again.GodLovesDead

Glad someone came out with this. But I'll take this one further: All rock is garbage. Complete garbage. When you're buying a rock album, you're basically buying a product. If you bought a classical album - you'd be buying art. The point of rock music is to be as catchy as you can, while trying to look "cool" while you're at it. It's a crock of crap. Only a few bands in rock are worth mentioning as being decent. I don't care what you tell me either, Led Zep and The Beatles suck. I'm not even going to bother saying "they're only in it for the money" because that's the purpose of rock in the first place. I'd rather listen to meaningful or artistic music atleast.

Music is a form of art, therefore rock music is art. Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds is basically a painting done in a song.

[QUOTE="d51man"][QUOTE="jimmygrace"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]There's nothing wrong with rock. It would have died out if everyone continued to make the same music as the 60's and 70's. Alternative FTW.iloverikku11

Well thats only because you like today's rock.

Yeah, well he's right. Rock wouldn't even be around if it was the same as the 60's and 70's. People would've been bored with it after 30 or 40 years :roll: It's the same for Fall Out Boy and My Chemical Romance and all those other garbage bands. They'll all be gone soon enough.

Hahaha. I didn't put MCR and FoB in the same category. I said that they were 'phases'. I don't care how they dress or how they act. What I do care about is the music. They have no talent. They are terrible. There's nothing spectacular about anything they make. It's catchy, people like catchy music. It's only a matter of time until everyone gets tired of this, and wants something different.

Problems:

1. Girly, nasal-only voices
2. Guitars are only power chords. No more awesome solos.
3. Emos
4. Most bands revolve solely around the color black
5. No awesome lyrics anymore
6. Too much computer/synthesizer use. Guitar, bass, drums, maybe piano. That's all you need.
7. Too much depression. Sing about something positive, like, say, LOVE. The best bands ever wrote about love, not depression.

I'm sure there's more I forgot about.

TERMINAT0R1

I agree, actually.

[QUOTE="TERMINAT0R1"]

Problems:

1. Girly, nasal-only voices
2. Guitars are only power chords. No more awesome solos.
3. Emos
4. Most bands revolve solely around the color black
5. No awesome lyrics anymore
6. Too much computer/synthesizer use. Guitar, bass, drums, maybe piano. That's all you need.
7. Too much depression. Sing about something positive, like, say, LOVE. The best bands ever wrote about love, not depression.

I'm sure there's more I forgot about.

Hewkii

I agree, actually.

me too but you forgot screamo. that isn't music. especially bands like arch enemy. they're freaking hilarious, but they aren't music.

Bands imitate what is popular because they obviously see it as the easiest way to make the most money.That's why in the 70s and 80s and very early 90s you saw so many similar types of music.But then once bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Fall Out Boy and so on became the most popular music you see so many other bands who might actually have talent imitate those styles because its the surest thing to make money.I think if we had a great band once again who made big hit after big hit and didn't have the girly singing voice and whatnot we would see more bands trying to imitate good music again.jimmygrace

basically thegarbage rock that they have on mtv, making it "good" for people who watch mtv and dont know how to distinguish good from bad. bands copy this trash and therin become popular and make money.

whats gone wrong with rock is mtv and everybody emulating what's "popular". mistervengeance

I guess The Beatles is meaningful, if you are as shallow as a puddle of water musically.

GodLovesDead

Elaborate, if you will.

[QUOTE="iloverikku11"][QUOTE="d51man"][QUOTE="jimmygrace"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]There's nothing wrong with rock. It would have died out if everyone continued to make the same music as the 60's and 70's. Alternative FTW.d51man

Well thats only because you like today's rock.

Yeah, well he's right. Rock wouldn't even be around if it was the same as the 60's and 70's. People would've been bored with it after 30 or 40 years :roll: It's the same for Fall Out Boy and My Chemical Romance and all those other garbage bands. They'll all be gone soon enough.

Hahaha. I didn't put MCR and FoB in the same category. I said that they were 'phases'. I don't care how they dress or how they act. What I do care about is the music. They have no talent. They are terrible. There's nothing spectacular about anything they make. It's catchy, people like catchy music. It's only a matter of time until everyone gets tired of this, and wants something different.

haha i agree. mcr and fob really have no talent. theyve just been labeled good by mtv and became super popular. i cant get over how much of a fanboy that one post is, though, claiming they cant be in the same category. sure they can cause theyre both poopoo

Problems:

1. Girly, nasal-only voices
2. Guitars are only power chords. No more awesome solos.
3. Emos
4. Most bands revolve solely around the color black
5. No awesome lyrics anymore
6. Too much computer/synthesizer use. Guitar, bass, drums, maybe piano. That's all you need.
7. Too much depression. Sing about something positive, like, say, LOVE. The best bands ever wrote about love, not depression.

I'm sure there's more I forgot about.

TERMINAT0R1

dude, girly nasly singers are awesome, listn to Placebo they rock! and i dont think theres anything wrong with Rock, theres alot of rockbands I'm sure theres a group of them you still enjoy. Is something wrong with mainsream society? probably, but to say that somethings worng with a whole music genre is dumb. Its stil rock or ele it wouldnt be called rock anymore.

I think the problem with rock (namely modern rock and the hair metal of the 80's) is that money is all they get into it for. Back in the 60's and 70's, the musicians got ripped off monetarily speaking. But they still did it, because they loved the music. Screw anything after 1996, and forget about roughly 80% of 80's rock.Shiggums

You're mistaken if you think the bands from the 60's and 70's weren't interested in money....or didn't make any.

[QUOTE="guitboxdude25"]really?is that so?tell me,whats so shallow about let it be?
oes nos!my post wasnt wells dun!omg!please,stop trying to act like a smart ass.NearTheEnd

dumb post for him =/= smart post for you

[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="TERMINAT0R1"]

Problems:

1. Girly, nasal-only voices
2. Guitars are only power chords. No more awesome solos.
3. Emos
4. Most bands revolve solely around the color black
5. No awesome lyrics anymore
6. Too much computer/synthesizer use. Guitar, bass, drums, maybe piano. That's all you need.
7. Too much depression. Sing about something positive, like, say, LOVE. The best bands ever wrote about love, not depression.

I'm sure there's more I forgot about.

mistervengeance

I agree, actually.

me too but you forgot screamo. that isn't music. especially bands like arch enemy. they're freaking hilarious, but they aren't music.

Ha! Arch Enemy aren't screamo! :lol: They're melodic death metal :roll:

Personally, I think rock is dead. The 80s were the last years of good rock, and pretty much as soon as it was 1990, rock died. But that's just my opinion.King_Creole_35

I agree.