IBM RFID Chip "Shopping of the Future"

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#101 rawsavon
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Yeah, order less and charge more for the product you do have during the holidays. The consumer will be royally peeved off, but you'll end up selling fewer, thereby needing fewer, while still making the same amount per unit. Especially if the item's a hot item that year.

Not Wamart's and other industry leaders' business plan...it is to sell massive quantities at a low cost (bulk = pay less per unit, but higher storage costs, hopefully make it up in QTY sold)

I don't see why a normal associate wouldn't be able to keep better track, since my coworkers usually goofed off when they were supposed to be working. Once again, I'd think a similar thing happens at larger stores, so come down harder on the people who do slack off and don't do what they're supposed to do. Hell, I used to get so annoyed at my coworkers when they complained they had too much to do and too little time to do it. I usually had to carry their slack so the boss wouldn't fire them.

You have never worked at Walmart or Sam's is all I will say...usually not the best associates...and I will leave it at that

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#102 mattbbpl
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[QUOTE="tycoonmike"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

It works great till you run out of room near that item. No more room above TV's, what do you do with extra TV's...stick some above this and some above that...you see where this ends

-could say order less, but need them for Holidays
-could say keep better track, but think of the normal associate
-so RFID is a huge help

Yeah, order less and charge more for the product you do have during the holidays. The consumer will be royally peeved off, but you'll end up selling fewer, thereby needing fewer, while still making the same amount per unit. Especially if the item's a hot item that year.

I don't see why a normal associate wouldn't be able to keep better track, since my coworkers usually goofed off when they were supposed to be working. Once again, I'd think a similar thing happens at larger stores, so come down harder on the people who do slack off and don't do what they're supposed to do. Hell, I used to get so annoyed at my coworkers when they complained they had too much to do and too little time to do it. I usually had to carry their slack so the boss wouldn't fire them.

In order to avoid using RFID tags on products you're willing to incorporate price gouging and self-imposed shortages? Seems like that would be a really big problem to me.

As far as corworkers goofing off, such is the nature of minimum wage retail jobs that cater to the high school/college crowd. It really irritated me when I was in that environment too, as I've always taken pride in my work regardless of it's nature.
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#103 tycoonmike
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In order to avoid using RFID tags on products you're willing to incorporate price gouging and self-imposed shortages? Seems like that would be a really big problem to me.

mattbbpl

Wasn't that big of a problem for the Wii and those who sold the Wii...

And the beauty of that is the shortage was for the first year of its existence, not over the holidays!

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#104 mattbbpl
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[QUOTE="tycoonmike"]

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]In order to avoid using RFID tags on products you're willing to incorporate price gouging and self-imposed shortages? Seems like that would be a really big problem to me.

Wasn't that big of a problem for the Wii and those who sold the Wii...

And the beauty of that is the shortage was for the first year of its existence, not over the holidays!

It was certainly a problem. Huge losses in revenue and profit.
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#105 dackchaar
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mark of the beast, not using it

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#106 danwallacefan
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xNhL39uD7I

I shall never acquiesce to the RFID chip, nor do I find this form of shopping at all convenient. Will you use get an RFID chip, should they become affordable or convenient for your life?

TheAbbeFaria

well if I can really just take the stuff and walk out of there while they still charge my credit card, HELL YEAH!

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#107 mrbojangles25
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lets see...if we fire all the bagboys and cashiers that'd be, what....200,000 jobs lost?

*sigh*

Whhy do I feel myself gradually turning into an old man...I fail to see the "cool" in a lot of new stuff, only the way it hurts people and makes life suck at the cost of being more efficient.

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#108 mattbbpl
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lets see...if we fire all the bagboys and cashiers that'd be, what....200,000 jobs lost?

*sigh*

Whhy do I feel myself gradually turning into an old man...I fail to see the "cool" in a lot of new stuff, only the way it hurts people and makes life suck at the cost of being more efficient.

The good thing about the lost jobs scenario is that while it stinks in t he short term, it frees up labor resources to produce other goods and services, thereby making society better in the long run. This principle is why the world wasn't thrown in utter chaos with huge unemployment rates after the industrial revolutions.
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#109 tycoonmike
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[QUOTE="tycoonmike"]

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]In order to avoid using RFID tags on products you're willing to incorporate price gouging and self-imposed shortages? Seems like that would be a really big problem to me.

mattbbpl

Wasn't that big of a problem for the Wii and those who sold the Wii...

And the beauty of that is the shortage was for the first year of its existence, not over the holidays!

It was certainly a problem. Huge losses in revenue and profit.

I couldn't find statistics for individual retailers, but for Nintendo proper it made $190 million in its first week of sale. It's had life-to-date unit sales of over 55 million, almost 26 millionof which in the Americas, and, at a$49 profit per sale of the Wii in the Americas, has made in profit in the Americas alone $127 million. Not exactly a huge loss in profit...

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#110 comp_atkins
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it's the future.. like it or not.
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#111 danwallacefan
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lets see...if we fire all the bagboys and cashiers that'd be, what....200,000 jobs lost?

*sigh*

Whhy do I feel myself gradually turning into an old man...I fail to see the "cool" in a lot of new stuff, only the way it hurts people and makes life suck at the cost of being more efficient.

mrbojangles25

Puh-leeze! An economy's strength is measured by how much it produces, and those 200,000 workers working somewhere else means that they produce more than they would have otherwise (bagging groceries)

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#112 davinadarkstar
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Wouldn't they be able to track you down that way? Too weird.

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#113 mattbbpl
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[QUOTE="tycoonmike"]

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="tycoonmike"]

Wasn't that big of a problem for the Wii and those who sold the Wii...

And the beauty of that is the shortage was for the first year of its existence, not over the holidays!

It was certainly a problem. Huge losses in revenue and profit.

I couldn't find statistics for individual retailers, but for Nintendo proper it made $190 million in its first week of sale. It's had life-to-date unit sales of over 55 million, almost 26 millionof which in the Americas, and, at a$49 profit per sale of the Wii in the Americas, has made in profit in the Americas alone $127 million. Not exactly a huge loss in profit...

Umm, large profts and revenues does not mean that there were not losses in revenue or profit. Nintendo incurred a large opportunity cost because they did not have manufacturing capacity necessary to meet demand. Rest assured, if they could have produced enough to meet demand, and thought that demand would last long enough to justify the cost of the increased manufacturing capacity, they would have.
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#114 mattbbpl
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Wouldn't they be able to track you down that way? Too weird.

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Well, I guess they could A) If you retained the credit card the RFID tag is printed on (it's not currently being proposed to insert these into people. They're printed on products and credit cards) and B) You stayed within range of a reader, Most RFID tags don't have much of a range. They're certainly not meant to be used as global positioning chips.
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#115 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

lets see...if we fire all the bagboys and cashiers that'd be, what....200,000 jobs lost?

*sigh*

Whhy do I feel myself gradually turning into an old man...I fail to see the "cool" in a lot of new stuff, only the way it hurts people and makes life suck at the cost of being more efficient.

danwallacefan

Puh-leeze! An economy's strength is measured by how much it produces, and those 200,000 workers working somewhere else means that they produce more than they would have otherwise (bagging groceries)

maybe a few years ago

but in this economy, not really

not to mention a lot of people working those jobs are not exactly good material for other jobs. Theyre either uneducated or, in many circumstances, working their way through school or a tough time.

Theyre bagboys because they didnt have much choice. If they could work another, more important job, they would, dont you think?

Its not like all the bagboys and cashiers of the world will simply be able to find a job all of a sudden, especially in an economy where college grads take 6+ months to land a job.