if 11 of the 19 hijackers of 9/11 are still alive....

...who's to say the ones going to trial, in particular Khalid Sheik Mohammed, are guilty as well and not just some patsies?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_guantanamo_us_trial

he allegedly self-proclaimed himself to be the mastermind of 9/11. whoin their right mindwould admit to such a calamity?

oh yea let me guess, stupid radicals. right?

I hate the media

Who would admit that? You said it yourself, a radical would. If they are willing to blow themselves up, Im pretty sure they would be more then willing to be held responsible for something like 9/11.SaintLeonidas

your sarcasm detector must be turned off, on purpose.

in any event, what i'm saying is that if the hijackers and their identities are obviously mistaken if the alleged hijackers arer still alive, how can we be certain that Mohamed and whoever is going to trial in NY is, actually guilty.Yea the media says he admitted to it/bragged about it, but how do we not know is not more BS from the mediajust to flame Americans and religious Americans against a sect that is continously being put in the spotlight.

I just cant get my head to follow the media and with what's going in with the 9/11 trials etc.especially with it's lies and all their inconsistencies, i still just dont believe the 'OFFICIAL' 9/11 story

he was probably tortured and then forced to admit he was teh mastermindz

...who's to say the ones going to trial, in particular Khalid Sheik Mohammed, are guilty as well and not just some patsies?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_guantanamo_us_trial

he allegedly self-proclaimed himself to be the mastermind of 9/11. whoin their right mindwould admit to such a calamity?

oh yea let me guess, stupid radicals. right?

I hate the media

_R34LiTY_

What answer are you looking for then? Every answer keep giving you, you aren't satisfied. Wait...

"Oh Em GEEZ you r so right! How could we b so blind? Thankz 4 all ur help!"

Seriously, the only thing we can work on is that they admitted to it. And that is all that we can go on. We don't have any other information and that is a fact. Would you rather have them torture these people for countless hours? Or are you also one of these people who happen to complain about this conduct to? The government can never win because SOMEBODY always has a problem with what they are doing. That is something that goes with having 300 million people in your country, somebody is always going to be upset and have some stupid idea, you have to know how to handle these people.

the alleged hijackers were in the planes ;) the planes blew up.TheBigTicket21

only problem with that was that the alleged hijackers, 11 of them went to officials asking why their names and photos were being used in the finger pointing of the 9/11 culprits.

What answer are you looking for then? Every answer keep giving you, you aren't satisfied. Wait...

"Oh Em GEEZ you r so right! How could we b so blind? Thankz 4 all ur help!"

Seriously, the only thing we can work on is that they admitted to it. And that is all that we can go on. We don't have any other information and that is a fact. Would you rather have them torture these people for countless hours? Or are you also one of these people who happen to complain about this conduct to? The government can never win because SOMEBODY always has a problem with what they are doing. That is something that goes with having 300 million people in your country, somebody is always going to be upset and have some stupid idea, you have to know how to handle these people.

xXDante666Xx

lol what conversation are you talking about? i havent been arguing anything. i made thread, one response and my first 15 min break, here i am again. so what, that people have said in here, have i been continuously arguin?

whoin their right mindwould admit to such a calamity?

_R34LiTY_

...who's to say the ones going to trial, in particular Khalid Sheik Mohammed, are guilty as well and not just some patsies?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_guantanamo_us_trial

he allegedly self-proclaimed himself to be the mastermind of 9/11. whoin their right mindwould admit to such a calamity?

oh yea let me guess, stupid radicals. right?

I hate the media

_R34LiTY_

[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

...who's to say the ones going to trial, in particular Khalid Sheik Mohammed, are guilty as well and not just some patsies?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_guantanamo_us_trial

he allegedly self-proclaimed himself to be the mastermind of 9/11. whoin their right mindwould admit to such a calamity?

oh yea let me guess, stupid radicals. right?

I hate the media

xaos

I know, Mohamed and the rest going to New York aren't the hijackers but the alleged Mastermind and some patrons. Thanx Captain Obvious!!! I'll give you your rock right now in a bit.

What I'm saying is that if the intelligence of the 19 hijackers turned out to be BS, especially because 11 if thse alleged hijackers are still alive, how can we be certain then that we're sending the right people to New York./?

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]Who would admit that? You said it yourself, a radical would. If they are willing to blow themselves up, Im pretty sure they would be more then willing to be held responsible for something like 9/11._R34LiTY_

your sarcasm detector must be turned off, on purpose.

in any event, what i'm saying is that if the hijackers and their identities are obviously mistaken if the alleged hijackers arer still alive, how can we be certain that Mohamed and whoever is going to trial in NY is, actually guilty.Yea the media says he admitted to it/bragged about it, but how do we not know is not more BS from the mediajust to flame Americans and religious Americans against a sect that is continously being put in the spotlight.

I just cant get my head to follow the media and with what's going in with the 9/11 trials etc.especially with it's lies and all their inconsistencies, i still just dont believe the 'OFFICIAL' 9/11 story

[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

...who's to say the ones going to trial, in particular Khalid Sheik Mohammed, are guilty as well and not just some patsies?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_guantanamo_us_trial

he allegedly self-proclaimed himself to be the mastermind of 9/11. whoin their right mindwould admit to such a calamity?

oh yea let me guess, stupid radicals. right?

I hate the media

planbfreak4eva

[QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"][QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

...who's to say the ones going to trial, in particular Khalid Sheik Mohammed, are guilty as well and not just some patsies?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_guantanamo_us_trial

he allegedly self-proclaimed himself to be the mastermind of 9/11. whoin their right mindwould admit to such a calamity?

oh yea let me guess, stupid radicals. right?

I hate the media

POPEYE1716

[QUOTE="POPEYE1716"][QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"] its all bs. 9/11 was planned and americans knew about it. it was a perfectly executed planTreeMoBMoney

Of course they would admit something like this.. to them it's a good thing to be responsible for that act.

[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]Who would admit that? You said it yourself, a radical would. If they are willing to blow themselves up, Im pretty sure they would be more then willing to be held responsible for something like 9/11.TreeMoBMoney

your sarcasm detector must be turned off, on purpose.

in any event, what i'm saying is that if the hijackers and their identities are obviously mistaken if the alleged hijackers arer still alive, how can we be certain that Mohamed and whoever is going to trial in NY is, actually guilty.Yea the media says he admitted to it/bragged about it, but how do we not know is not more BS from the mediajust to flame Americans and religious Americans against a sect that is continously being put in the spotlight.

I just cant get my head to follow the media and with what's going in with the 9/11 trials etc.especially with it's lies and all their inconsistencies, i still just dont believe the 'OFFICIAL' 9/11 story

How about you add discussion rather than sarcastic snide remark which has nothing to do with what i am talking about.

Besides, what are you trying to get at with Oswald?

[QUOTE="xXDante666Xx"]

What answer are you looking for then? Every answer keep giving you, you aren't satisfied. Wait...

"Oh Em GEEZ you r so right! How could we b so blind? Thankz 4 all ur help!"

Seriously, the only thing we can work on is that they admitted to it. And that is all that we can go on. We don't have any other information and that is a fact. Would you rather have them torture these people for countless hours? Or are you also one of these people who happen to complain about this conduct to? The government can never win because SOMEBODY always has a problem with what they are doing. That is something that goes with having 300 million people in your country, somebody is always going to be upset and have some stupid idea, you have to know how to handle these people.

_R34LiTY_

lol what conversation are you talking about? i havent been arguing anything. i made thread, one response and my first 15 min break, here i am again. so what, that people have said in here, have i been continuously arguin?

lol few hours later and you still can't tell me? This is why you need to read posts and what people are saying instead of going off on a whim just because you feel what I said, shouldnt've been said.

[QUOTE="TreeMoBMoney"][QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"] how am i a troll... there is enough evidence to say that 9/11 was an inside job...plz watch movies, read websites and u will see the real truthplanbfreak4eva

[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

[QUOTE="TreeMoBMoney"] Yes and oswald didnt work alone :roll:TreeMoBMoney

How about you add discussion rather than sarcastic snide remark which has nothing to do with what i am talking about.

Besides, what are you trying to get at with Oswald?

lol that's the best you can do? I know what you're tryint to get at with Oswald, but it'd be better IMO if youd go into it, just a little, ratherthan posting redundant and irrelevant stuff to insinuate what you mean such as your replies thus far.

[QUOTE="TreeMoBMoney"][QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

How about you add discussion rather than sarcastic snide remark which has nothing to do with what i am talking about.

Besides, what are you trying to get at with Oswald?

_R34LiTY_

lol that's the best you can do? I know what you're tryint to get at with Oswald, but it'd be better IMO if youd go into it, just a little, ratherthan posting redundant and irrelevant stuff to insinuate what you mean such as your replies thus far.

[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

[QUOTE="TreeMoBMoney"] sheesh...TreeMoBMoney

lol that's the best you can do? I know what you're tryint to get at with Oswald, but it'd be better IMO if youd go into it, just a little, ratherthan posting redundant and irrelevant stuff to insinuate what you mean such as your replies thus far.

Than perhapd you shouldnt even TRY to insinuate anything, as the way you've been posting is "Solely to Annoy/Offend others", if you're not going to engage in your, remarks, we will call them.

It can definitely be a circle sometimeswith 90% of the people that post here. In any event, engage or just stop responding directly to me if you not gonna add more than your useless um, remarks.

[QUOTE="TreeMoBMoney"][QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"] how am i a troll... there is enough evidence to say that 9/11 was an inside job...plz watch movies, read websites and u will see the real truthplanbfreak4eva

I know I'm probably wasting my time, but here goes.

How many people do you think were involved in this conspiracy? I think that is critical. How many people would it take to plant all the explosives, manipulate the 19 "patsys" that eventually got blamed, launch the missle on the Pentagon, etc etc etc?

I think it would be over 100, maybe more. At least a few dozen.

So my real question is: How are they keeping all the people involved quiet?

See, I think conspriracies are possible and some have been pulled off. But, they only stay secret when a very very very small number of people are involved. Three or four extremely dedicated individuals are capable of launching a conspiracy and keeping it secret after that fact. When you start talking about the numbers it would take to pull off 9/11 there is just no way all those people have stayed quiet.

Bring me just one conspirator. One person who can prove that they were involved and knew what was going to happen ahead of time.

[QUOTE="TreeMoBMoney"][QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

lol that's the best you can do? I know what you're tryint to get at with Oswald, but it'd be better IMO if youd go into it, just a little, ratherthan posting redundant and irrelevant stuff to insinuate what you mean such as your replies thus far.

_R34LiTY_

Than perhapd you shouldnt even TRY to insinuate anything, as the way you've been posting is "Solely to Annoy/Offend others", if you're not going to engage in your, remarks, we will call them.

It can definitely be a circle sometimeswith 90% of the people that post here. In any event, engage or just stop responding directly to me if you not gonna add more than your useless um, remarks.

[QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"][QUOTE="TreeMoBMoney"] Yes because the internet is the all being source of true information in a world otherwise corrupted by falsehood. collegeboy64

I know I'm probably wasting my time, but here goes.

How many people do you think were involved in this conspiracy? I think that is critical. How many people would it take to plant all the explosives, manipulate the 19 "patsys" that eventually got blamed, launch the missle on the Pentagon, etc etc etc?

I think it would be over 100, maybe more. At least a few dozen.

So my real question is: How are they keeping all the people involved quiet?

See, I think conspriracies are possible and some have been pulled off. But, they only stay secret when a very very very small number of people are involved. Three or four extremely dedicated individuals are capable of launching a conspiracy and keeping it secret after that fact. When you start talking about the numbers it would take to pull off 9/11 there is just no way all those people have stayed quiet.

Bring me just one conspirator. One person who can prove that they were involved and knew what was going to happen ahead of time.

[QUOTE="collegeboy64"]

[QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"] ive seen enough to form my opinion... i say that it was planned, thats my opinion. and ur opinion is it wasnt planned, thats all...am just saying what i beleive...planbfreak4eva

I know I'm probably wasting my time, but here goes.

How many people do you think were involved in this conspiracy? I think that is critical. How many people would it take to plant all the explosives, manipulate the 19 "patsys" that eventually got blamed, launch the missle on the Pentagon, etc etc etc?

I think it would be over 100, maybe more. At least a few dozen.

So my real question is: How are they keeping all the people involved quiet?

See, I think conspriracies are possible and some have been pulled off. But, they only stay secret when a very very very small number of people are involved. Three or four extremely dedicated individuals are capable of launching a conspiracy and keeping it secret after that fact. When you start talking about the numbers it would take to pull off 9/11 there is just no way all those people have stayed quiet.

Bring me just one conspirator. One person who can prove that they were involved and knew what was going to happen ahead of time.

First let me say you can put down your flame shield. I don't try to tear up people that disagree with me.

I guess I find it easier to believe that 19 islamist crazies pulled this off than I do that serving military men could be paid to do such a treasonous thing to the country they have sworn to defend. As for threatening them with death: If one of them came forward they would have every media company in America paying for security to keep them alive. Not to mention the millions they would make on a book deal.

I have to get back to work, so I can't keep debating with you. Sorry. My last thought to you is this: There is an old saying: The only way 3 people can keep a secret is if one of them kills the other 2.

...who's to say the ones going to trial, in particular Khalid Sheik Mohammed, are guilty as well and not just some patsies?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_guantanamo_us_trial

he allegedly self-proclaimed himself to be the mastermind of 9/11. whoin their right mindwould admit to such a calamity?

oh yea let me guess, stupid radicals. right?

I hate the media

_R34LiTY_

They need to say it to use the martyrdom perk.

None of the hijakers are alive. It was a case of mistaken identity that the BBC came up across in the confused aftermath of 9/11. They have since retracted it.

Someone who was proud of what happened would admit to it.Big_Bad_Sad

...who's to say the ones going to trial, in particular Khalid Sheik Mohammed, are guilty as well and not just some patsies?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_guantanamo_us_trial

he allegedly self-proclaimed himself to be the mastermind of 9/11. whoin their right mindwould admit to such a calamity?

oh yea let me guess, stupid radicals. right?

I hate the media

_R34LiTY_

He had been water-boarded over a hundred times before that confession was made. He definitely wasn't in his right mind.

These people honestly don't represent the interests of the Muslim people, same with Hitler.

And yes, the media DOES like to add in a few "minor" details to the mix.

What are they, zombies? Last time I recall, everyone on the plane died when the planes hit the towers. So unless, they are zombies or ghosts, this can't be real can it?

[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

...who's to say the ones going to trial, in particular Khalid Sheik Mohammed, are guilty as well and not just some patsies?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_guantanamo_us_trial

he allegedly self-proclaimed himself to be the mastermind of 9/11. whoin their right mindwould admit to such a calamity?

oh yea let me guess, stupid radicals. right?

I hate the media

HomicidalCherry

He had been water-boarded over a hundred times before that confession was made. He definitely wasn't in his right mind.

Hmmm, do people REALLY still believe 9/11 was done by "terrorists"? Come on people, you cant be THAT gullible.JudgementEden

Hmmm, do people REALLY still believe 9/11 was done by "terrorists"? Come on people, you cant be THAT gullible.JudgementEden

[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

...who's to say the ones going to trial, in particular Khalid Sheik Mohammed, are guilty as well and not just some patsies?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_guantanamo_us_trial

he allegedly self-proclaimed himself to be the mastermind of 9/11. whoin their right mindwould admit to such a calamity?

oh yea let me guess, stupid radicals. right?

I hate the media

planbfreak4eva

[QUOTE="HomicidalCherry"]

[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

...who's to say the ones going to trial, in particular Khalid Sheik Mohammed, are guilty as well and not just some patsies?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_guantanamo_us_trial

he allegedly self-proclaimed himself to be the mastermind of 9/11. whoin their right mindwould admit to such a calamity?

oh yea let me guess, stupid radicals. right?

I hate the media

danwallacefan

He had been water-boarded over a hundred times before that confession was made. He definitely wasn't in his right mind.

Dismissed means they looked at it and decided to ignore....charges can be brought up for negligence if later on turns out plausible

It will be 'OVERLOOKED', innocently 'missed' while trying to patriotically get to the truth

of course, when stuff of this nature is under scrutiny and leavingmany skeptical and leaving top executive officers of this or that defense contractor that allowed waterboarding or other bahavior of the sort, when they are facing possible jailtime for this behaviour, words or the way you word your defense could be the difference between jailtime and freedom

Mr Cheney's favorite line...... "I dont recall"