If Another Korean War Started...

Just a caution to everyone on this thread:

Just a caution to everyone on this thread:

The US should free Palastine from Isreal before going to Korea.face_ripper

[QUOTE="pengo93"]

Just a caution to everyone on this thread:

Virtual_Price

No! They're dirty animals that spread disease. Like herpes.

[QUOTE="Virtual_Price"][QUOTE="pengo93"]

Just a caution to everyone on this thread:

No! They're dirty animals that spread disease. Like herpes.

[QUOTE="pengo93"]

[QUOTE="Virtual_Price"] Can we keep it?Virtual_Price

No! They're dirty animals that spread disease. Like herpes.

Ever seen the movie gremlins?

[QUOTE="Virtual_Price"][QUOTE="pengo93"]

No! They're dirty animals that spread disease. Like herpes.

Ever seen the movie gremlins?

[QUOTE="pengo93"]

[QUOTE="Virtual_Price"] B-b-b-b-b but I'll feed it and take care of it. Virtual_Price

Ever seen the movie gremlins?

Imagine that, but they started off as gremlins and feeding them makes it worse.

[QUOTE="Virtual_Price"][QUOTE="pengo93"]

Ever seen the movie gremlins?

Imagine that, but they started off as gremlins and feeding them makes it worse.

[QUOTE="pengo93"]

[QUOTE="Virtual_Price"] Yeah. Virtual_Price

Imagine that, but they started off as gremlins and feeding them makes it worse.

Fire, acid, hungry badgers, whatever works.

[QUOTE="Virtual_Price"][QUOTE="pengo93"]

Imagine that, but they started off as gremlins and feeding them makes it worse.

Fire, acid, hungry badgers, whatever works.

The US would probably join the fight.

They (treaties)are worthless. I admit I'm not a good politician, that's why I am not one.

MagnumPI

If you're not a good politician, or even one at all, on what do you base your value assessment as to the usefulness of treaties, or any other tool in international relations?

EDIT:

Oh right, the original topic. The United States has over 20,000 troops in South Korea. In the event of a North Korean invasion, we'd already be involved. So the treaty really doesn't matter.

I think America would need to get involved. but considering how old the tech is for the North Koreans, i even question how well the North Koreans could beat the South Koreans on their own.

Iraq in 1990 and 2003 had better tanks and better overall equipment than North Korea has, and it was shattered on both occasions. Especially in the first Gulf War when Iraq had a million man army.

The morale of the North Koreans, i'd argue is a lot worse then Iraqi's were.

I also strongly think China would stay OUT of a war between the North and South. There might be support from the old Communist guard within China who still have memories of the events from the first Korean War. but the China that existed in 1950's is vastly different from the China that exists in 2010. I think China's at most gonna voice condemnation or restraint between the combatants.

China may have the military strength to assist North Korea, and it is currently the second largest economy in the world. but China has a lot more to lose if it gets involved militarily. It's #1 trading partner is the United States, and China needs the US same as the US needs China for goods.

I think it boils down to 3 things

1. Assure the Chinese somehow to keep the North korean refugees from flooding into it's borders.

2. The North Korean artillary bombardment of South Korea's cities.

3. Does North Korea have a reliable way to launch a nuclear weapon tipped missile? All i remember them testing was an underground test, so do they even have the capability?

All the war guarantees is what helped bring down the British empire.

The US should not get involved directly in the war beyond logistics.

Sadly, in this case, hard lefties and neocons are united and will joyfully work together to send thousands of young American men and women to their deaths.....

If China gets involved that would be a bad situation, because many of our cheap goods are manufactured in Asia notably china. So if we oppose china we mightlose all of those cheap Chinese goods. The average American can't afford American made and the rest are just toofrugal to buy American made.

All the war guarantees is what helped bring down the British empire.

majwill24

You sure about that?

Our involvement will likely be Naval, Aerial,and materialsupport of the ROK. Domestically there isn't any stomach for any ground war engagements, so you won't see many Marines or Soldiers with boots on the ground.

It never ended;) They're technically still at war

[QUOTE="Harisemo"][QUOTE="funsohng"]You guys should, I really don't want my country fighting North Korea alone :Pfunsohng

[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="Harisemo"] NK will be fighting alone so why not SK?J-WOW

If they pay me enough I'll contract.

"If you need someone tokill your enemies, have acheck book and write checks that don't bounce you can hire... MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA."

I think we should let Japan and Norway take the lead. I just have a feeling they're ready to take the reins and mete out destruction. Norway's been itching to crush someone since the vikings went out of style. The people there are so warlike.

We would be involved in some capacity; we have troops along the DMZ.

[QUOTE="J-WOW"][QUOTE="funsohng"] well then we will hate USA so much to the point we might league with China I'm not sure if Americans know this, but Korean generally don't like Americans that much. Sure we hate Japanese more and Chinese probably a little more, but Americans are not really all that "awesome brother". But then again, Koreans are very xenophobic and their politicians are hypocrites.funsohng

North Korea needs to be destroyed. PERIOD.Osaka-06

Yeah , pretty much. A couple of heavy precision air bombardments will do the trick. Plus , the AF can take out all or most of that little nut jobs nuclear program.

Found this interesting--- North Korea has 2 artillery corps and 30 artillery brigades equipped with 120mm self-propelled guns, 152mm self-propelled mortars, 170mm guns with a range of 50 km, 240 mm multiple rocket launchers with a range of 45 km, and other heavy guns. North Korea has about 18,000 heavy guns. North Korea's 170mm Goksan gun and 240mm multiple-tube rocket launchers are the most powerful guns of the world. These guns can lob shells as far south as Suwon miles beyond Seoul. The big guns are hidden in caves. Many of them are mounted on rails and can fire in all directions. They can rain 500,000 conventional and biochemical shells per hour on US troops near the DMZ. The US army bases at Yijong-bu, Paju, Yon-chun, Munsan, Ding-gu-chun, and Pochun will be obliterated in a matter of hours. The US army in Korea is equipped with Paladin anti-artillery guns that can trace enemy shells back to the guns and fire shells at the enemy guns with pin-point accuracy. However, it takes for the Paladins about 10 min to locate the enemy guns, during which time the Paladins would be targeted by the enemy guns Gen. Thomas A Schwartz, a former US army commander in Korea, stated that the US army in Korea would be destroyed in less than three hoursEmpCom

WWIII will be interesting then, as brief as it will be.

The US should free Palastine from Isreal before going to Korea.face_ripper

[QUOTE="Osaka-06"]North Korea needs to be destroyed. PERIOD.debusentel

Yeah , pretty much. A couple of heavy precision air bombardments will do the trick. Plus , the AF can take out all or most of that little nut jobs nuclear program.

[QUOTE="debusentel"]

[QUOTE="Osaka-06"]North Korea needs to be destroyed. PERIOD.Osaka-06

Yeah , pretty much. A couple of heavy precision air bombardments will do the trick. Plus , the AF can take out all or most of that little nut jobs nuclear program.

Found this interesting--- North Korea has 2 artillery corps and 30 artillery brigades equipped with 120mm self-propelled guns, 152mm self-propelled mortars, 170mm guns with a range of 50 km, 240 mm multiple rocket launchers with a range of 45 km, and other heavy guns. North Korea has about 18,000 heavy guns. North Korea's 170mm Goksan gun and 240mm multiple-tube rocket launchers are the most powerful guns of the world. These guns can lob shells as far south as Suwon miles beyond Seoul. The big guns are hidden in caves. Many of them are mounted on rails and can fire in all directions. They can rain 500,000 conventional and biochemical shells per hour on US troops near the DMZ. The US army bases at Yijong-bu, Paju, Yon-chun, Munsan, Ding-gu-chun, and Pochun will be obliterated in a matter of hours. The US army in Korea is equipped with Paladin anti-artillery guns that can trace enemy shells back to the guns and fire shells at the enemy guns with pin-point accuracy. However, it takes for the Paladins about 10 min to locate the enemy guns, during which time the Paladins would be targeted by the enemy guns Gen. Thomas A Schwartz, a former US army commander in Korea, stated that the US army in Korea would be destroyed in less than three hoursEmpCom

I again wonder why we have wasted trillions on "defense" and weapons if our troops can get dominated by starving men weilding barely functioning 1950's equipment.

[QUOTE="debusentel"]

[QUOTE="Osaka-06"]North Korea needs to be destroyed. PERIOD.Osaka-06

Yeah , pretty much. A couple of heavy precision air bombardments will do the trick. Plus , the AF can take out all or most of that little nut jobs nuclear program.

>:(

It never ended.....

We must. We are bound to do so.

[QUOTE="EmpCom"]Found this interesting--- North Korea has 2 artillery corps and 30 artillery brigades equipped with 120mm self-propelled guns, 152mm self-propelled mortars, 170mm guns with a range of 50 km, 240 mm multiple rocket launchers with a range of 45 km, and other heavy guns. North Korea has about 18,000 heavy guns. North Korea's 170mm Goksan gun and 240mm multiple-tube rocket launchers are the most powerful guns of the world. These guns can lob shells as far south as Suwon miles beyond Seoul. The big guns are hidden in caves. Many of them are mounted on rails and can fire in all directions. They can rain 500,000 conventional and biochemical shells per hour on US troops near the DMZ. The US army bases at Yijong-bu, Paju, Yon-chun, Munsan, Ding-gu-chun, and Pochun will be obliterated in a matter of hours. The US army in Korea is equipped with Paladin anti-artillery guns that can trace enemy shells back to the guns and fire shells at the enemy guns with pin-point accuracy. However, it takes for the Paladins about 10 min to locate the enemy guns, during which time the Paladins would be targeted by the enemy guns Gen. Thomas A Schwartz, a former US army commander in Korea, stated that the US army in Korea would be destroyed in less than three hoursPixel-Pirate

I again wonder why we have wasted trillions on "defense" and weapons if our troops can get dominated by starving men weilding barely functioning 1950's equipment.

Found this interesting--- North Korea has 2 artillery corps and 30 artillery brigades equipped with 120mm self-propelled guns, 152mm self-propelled mortars, 170mm guns with a range of 50 km, 240 mm multiple rocket launchers with a range of 45 km, and other heavy guns. North Korea has about 18,000 heavy guns. North Korea's 170mm Goksan gun and 240mm multiple-tube rocket launchers are the most powerful guns of the world. These guns can lob shells as far south as Suwon miles beyond Seoul. The big guns are hidden in caves. Many of them are mounted on rails and can fire in all directions. They can rain 500,000 conventional and biochemical shells per hour on US troops near the DMZ. The US army bases at Yijong-bu, Paju, Yon-chun, Munsan, Ding-gu-chun, and Pochun will be obliterated in a matter of hours. The US army in Korea is equipped with Paladin anti-artillery guns that can trace enemy shells back to the guns and fire shells at the enemy guns with pin-point accuracy. However, it takes for the Paladins about 10 min to locate the enemy guns, during which time the Paladins would be targeted by the enemy guns Gen. Thomas A Schwartz, a former US army commander in Korea, stated that the US army in Korea would be destroyed in less than three hoursEmpCom

A pre-emptive airstrike could render all of their artillery obsolete.

[QUOTE="EmpCom"]Found this interesting--- North Korea has 2 artillery corps and 30 artillery brigades equipped with 120mm self-propelled guns, 152mm self-propelled mortars, 170mm guns with a range of 50 km, 240 mm multiple rocket launchers with a range of 45 km, and other heavy guns. North Korea has about 18,000 heavy guns. North Korea's 170mm Goksan gun and 240mm multiple-tube rocket launchers are the most powerful guns of the world. These guns can lob shells as far south as Suwon miles beyond Seoul. The big guns are hidden in caves. Many of them are mounted on rails and can fire in all directions. They can rain 500,000 conventional and biochemical shells per hour on US troops near the DMZ. The US army bases at Yijong-bu, Paju, Yon-chun, Munsan, Ding-gu-chun, and Pochun will be obliterated in a matter of hours. The US army in Korea is equipped with Paladin anti-artillery guns that can trace enemy shells back to the guns and fire shells at the enemy guns with pin-point accuracy. However, it takes for the Paladins about 10 min to locate the enemy guns, during which time the Paladins would be targeted by the enemy guns Gen. Thomas A Schwartz, a former US army commander in Korea, stated that the US army in Korea would be destroyed in less than three hoursbreakinglaws

A pre-emptive airstrike could render all of their artillery obsolete.

It would, but you probably don't want to do that to someone who has nukes and who's enemy's capital is pretty close to their border.

[QUOTE="EmpCom"]Found this interesting--- North Korea has 2 artillery corps and 30 artillery brigades equipped with 120mm self-propelled guns, 152mm self-propelled mortars, 170mm guns with a range of 50 km, 240 mm multiple rocket launchers with a range of 45 km, and other heavy guns. North Korea has about 18,000 heavy guns. North Korea's 170mm Goksan gun and 240mm multiple-tube rocket launchers are the most powerful guns of the world. These guns can lob shells as far south as Suwon miles beyond Seoul. The big guns are hidden in caves. Many of them are mounted on rails and can fire in all directions. They can rain 500,000 conventional and biochemical shells per hour on US troops near the DMZ. The US army bases at Yijong-bu, Paju, Yon-chun, Munsan, Ding-gu-chun, and Pochun will be obliterated in a matter of hours. The US army in Korea is equipped with Paladin anti-artillery guns that can trace enemy shells back to the guns and fire shells at the enemy guns with pin-point accuracy. However, it takes for the Paladins about 10 min to locate the enemy guns, during which time the Paladins would be targeted by the enemy guns Gen. Thomas A Schwartz, a former US army commander in Korea, stated that the US army in Korea would be destroyed in less than three hoursbreakinglaws

A pre-emptive airstrike could render all of their artillery obsolete.

[QUOTE="breakinglaws"]

[QUOTE="EmpCom"]Found this interesting--- North Korea has 2 artillery corps and 30 artillery brigades equipped with 120mm self-propelled guns, 152mm self-propelled mortars, 170mm guns with a range of 50 km, 240 mm multiple rocket launchers with a range of 45 km, and other heavy guns. North Korea has about 18,000 heavy guns. North Korea's 170mm Goksan gun and 240mm multiple-tube rocket launchers are the most powerful guns of the world. These guns can lob shells as far south as Suwon miles beyond Seoul. The big guns are hidden in caves. Many of them are mounted on rails and can fire in all directions. They can rain 500,000 conventional and biochemical shells per hour on US troops near the DMZ. The US army bases at Yijong-bu, Paju, Yon-chun, Munsan, Ding-gu-chun, and Pochun will be obliterated in a matter of hours. The US army in Korea is equipped with Paladin anti-artillery guns that can trace enemy shells back to the guns and fire shells at the enemy guns with pin-point accuracy. However, it takes for the Paladins about 10 min to locate the enemy guns, during which time the Paladins would be targeted by the enemy guns Gen. Thomas A Schwartz, a former US army commander in Korea, stated that the US army in Korea would be destroyed in less than three hoursstrat505

A pre-emptive airstrike could render all of their artillery obsolete.

It would, but you probably don't want to do that to someone who has nukes and who's enemy's capital is pretty close to their border.

The U.S. must help or else our Hyundai and Kia supplies will run low.

kidsmelly