If Black History Month isn't racist, why would White History Month be?

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#1 ShadowMoses900
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First off I should state that I am against any month that is dedicated to a certain ehtnic group completely, I don't think it's right to divide people into different months of the year and saying "this is your month, and this is their month ect..." To me there is only American History and black history, hispanic history, asian history ect...are all a part of American History. I don't understand why people want to sepearte them.

I ask this question because today in one of my college classes a student said there should be a gay history month to celbrate them being gay and a black student said he agreed becasue he has a month to celbrate being black. But another student asked why can't there be a white history month, why can they be celberated but not her. And it got me to thinking this whole "race of the month" thing is just wrong.

For the record I am an ethnic minority as well (Jewish) so don't call me a nazi or racist or anything else, I'm non of those. I just think it's dumb and wrong to divide people into different months of the year. And it's hypocritical for one group of people to say that a White History Month would be racist but not a Black History Month or any other ethnicity history month isn't.

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#2 chessmaster1989
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It wouldn't unless it were specifically dedicated to racist figures...
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#3 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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Why can't we just teach history as history?

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Did you know May is bicycle month? Why should a month be dedicated to bicycles!?! Where is scooter month!?!?
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#5 AussieePet
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White history month is every 11 months lol
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#6 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Every month is white history month.

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#7 ShadowMoses900
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Why can't we just teach history as history?

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This I agree with. Why do we have to divide people into different months, why not just have American History and that's it. Every ethnic group is a part of American History.

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#8 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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White history month is every 11 months lol AussieePet
That would be American history. If it was white history it would cover +2000 years.
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#9 AussieePet
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Every month is white history month.

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Not in February its not
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#10 AussieePet
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[QUOTE="AussieePet"]White history month is every 11 months lol jointed
That would be American history. If it was white history it would cover +2000 years.

Well idk much about american history is i wouldn't understand that
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#11 kuraimen
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That question is racist.
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#12 Bucked20
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Its no different from Latin heritage month
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#13 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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Its no different from Latin heritage month Bucked20
Does such a thing exist?

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#14 KiIIyou
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black aint a race.
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#15 Bucked20
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[QUOTE="Bucked20"]Its no different from Latin heritage month toast_burner

Does such a thing exist?

Yea
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"Every other day is Kid's Day", my old man would tell me on Father's/Mother's Day.

TC will be my child ITT.

TC, every other month is White History Month.

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#17 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="Bucked20"]Its no different from Latin heritage month toast_burner

Does such a thing exist?

Ya I think it's in September.

There arn't enough months for everyone though, you would have to have an Irish, German, Japanese, Korean, Native American, Russian, Italian, Jewish, Dutch ect....not everyone would get a month. Like I said I think it's wrong.

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I thought you were asian.

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#19 coolbeans90
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Every month is white history month.

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#20 Serraph105
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It wouldn't unless it were specifically dedicated to racist figures...chessmaster1989
Like George Washington? :P
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#21 almasdeathchild
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[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="AussieePet"]White history month is every 11 months lol AussieePet
That would be American history. If it was white history it would cover +2000 years.

Well idk much about american history is i wouldn't understand that

it be a good idea to look into it besides posting something stupid;)

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Black history wasn't part of American history up until now.

Did Americans in the 1920's need a "Black History Month"?

BHM is an outdated practice that have become more of a tradition than a productive tool. But you shouldn't question what BHM actually accomplishes, but rather ask, why was it created in the first place? In a time period of disenfranchisement and extreme prejudice, the accomplishments of Black people were often neglected. BHM was an attempt to instill pride and ambition in a fledgling community and help dispell some of the stereotypes that negatively impacted their opportunities.

What would be the reason behind a "white history month"?

Just out of Spite.

The concept of White history month isn't racist, its the REASON for it, that makes it offensive.

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#23 themajormayor
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Why can't we just teach history as history?

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#24 Meinhard1
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Every day is white history month. History has a strong white, male bias so I think it's fine to set aside some time to focus on blacks have done. Also BHM is about appreciating those involved in abolition, the civil rights movement, etc. white people like my self don't have an equivalent of that.
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#25 branketra
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It wouldn't unless it were specifically dedicated to racist figures...chessmaster1989
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#26 lordreaven
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I'm actuallly againts Black history month. Since teh history mostly deals with teh issue of Slavery, why not just have a "Slvaery Month". The blacks were not the only Race/Culture to be enslaved. I understand the issues it brings up, but the scale is so narrow due to how slavery was, and still is. Up here in Canaad we have it, even though we had almost nothing to do with the slave trade other than being a place for people to seek refuge. The month should be about slavery in general in my opinion.

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If I was black, gay whatever, any minority, I wouldn't celebrate my history month. White history month is every month, more or less. It's not racist, it's just unnecessary, but so are the rest. I see 'stuff' months like the holidays. If you're only a kind and giving and caring person because it's november/december, F y'all. Be that all year. Be proud of being black all year. Be proud of who you are every day. Raise money for cancer all year. Bring awareness to issues all year. Here's a hint, it's a money grab. Museums put up displays, stores sell stuff (pins, shirts, mittens etc for cancer) and if gay pride month becomes a thing.. rainbow crap everywhere, and it'll cost a pretty penny. I just ignore it. If I want to learn about the history of black people, I have the internet. I don't need to wait for the month to come along.
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#28 Suzy_Q_Kazoo
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Every month is white history month.

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^ Also, I don't even remember black history month and the like being emphasized since grade school when they would always make you do those research projects/activities.
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#29 deuce4eva
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Every month is white history month.

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Black history wasn't part of American history up until now.

Did Americans in the 1920's need a "Black History Month"?

BHM is an outdated practice that have become more of a tradition than a productive tool. But you shouldn't question what BHM actually accomplishes, but rather ask, why was it created in the first place? In a time period of disenfranchisement and extreme prejudice, the accomplishments of Black people were often neglected. BHM was an attempt to instill pride and ambition in a fledgling community and help dispell some of the stereotypes that negatively impacted their opportunities.

What would be the reason behind a "white history month"?

Just out of Spite.

The concept of White history month isn't racist, its the REASON for it, that makes it offensive.

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This ... and it'll be ignored in a sea of ignorance.
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#31 Riverwolf007
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dude, everything is racist now.

i don't even tell people i own a yellow lab, a black and tan and a red doberman cuz i'm afraid of the accusations that could be made.

people ask me what kind and i just say dogs. then if they press me i just say they are mulitcultural dogs.

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Bucked20"]Its no different from Latin heritage month ShadowMoses900

Does such a thing exist?

Ya I think it's in September.

It's mid September to mid October.

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The point I have always made (which is misunderstood) is not that there should be a white history month.

But that as one people we shouldn't be divisive.

I don't want to live in a country where you have a black president who only cares about black people.

Or a white president who only cares about white people.

Or a woman president who only cares about women.

I want to be able to pick a CANDIDATE that looks after all of our intests fairly and collectively AS one people.

We don't have that now.

What we have now is race politics, gender politics, sexuality politics, special interest politics.

I want to be able to pick a black lesbian and know that she will represent my interests too.

Not only gay issues.

Not only black issues.

Not only women issues.

We need unity.

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#34 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Every month is white history month.

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I think I'm going to dress up as myself once again this white history year.

You going to the Macy's White History Decade parade bro?

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It's because of ideology imposed by liberals...only minorities can celebrate their heritage, not majorities, which is very sad.

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#36 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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It's because of ideology imposed by liberals...only minorities can celebrate their heritage, not majorities, which is very sad.

kingkong0124

I don't think anybody should celebrate their hertitage.

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[QUOTE="spazzx625"]Did you know May is bicycle month? Why should a month be dedicated to bicycles!?! Where is scooter month!?!?

my birthmonth has been hipster'd? :rage:
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#38 K-E316
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According to society, you should feel ashamed to be white.

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It's because of ideology imposed by liberals...only minorities can celebrate their heritage, not majorities, which is very sad.

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lol do you actually believe that?

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Most White, Asian and Latino people can trace their ancestors back to specific countries. Black people, who are descended from slaves cannot do this. They have no way of knowing which African nation they came from. They have so many problems, with unemployment, stds, and poverty. Just let them have this one thing.
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#41 WilliamRLBaker
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I say we get rid of black history month, and dont have any history month and just teach all history without censorship.

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Most White, Asian and Latino people can trace their ancestors back to specific countries. Black people, who are descended from slaves cannot do this. They have no way of knowing which African nation they came from. They have so many problems, with unemployment, stds, and poverty. Just let them have this one thing. Vac87

Oh yeah I get that.

Thing is most white people want to give black people a heritage.

You say you don't know who you are or where you come from.

You're American. You're one of us. That's your heritage.

I don't know how the black community feels about that tho.

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[QUOTE="AussieePet"]White history month is every 11 months lol jointed
That would be American history. If it was white history it would cover +2000 years.

It's been a few decades since I was in school, but I remember covering things such as the classic Greek period and the pre/post Imperial Roman period as early as 6th grade.

I didn't know about the Song Dynasty, or any other Asian history for that matter, until I read about it myself outside school. Public school history classes are very old-dead-white-man centered.

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[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="AussieePet"]White history month is every 11 months lol br0kenrabbit

That would be American history. If it was white history it would cover +2000 years.

It's been a few decades since I was in school, but I remember covering things such as the classic Greek period and the pre/post Imperial Roman period as early as 6th grade.

I didn't know about the Song Dynasty, or any other Asian history for that matter, until I read about it myself outside school. Public school history classes are very old-dead-white-man centered.

That's because all of Western civilization (and half the east) is built on Greek and Roman ideas.

It's impossible to understate the level of influence those cultures have on the world.

Understanding those cultures forms the basis of understanding pretty much the entire modern world.

Not because they're white.

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#45 Nengo_Flow
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Its no different from Latin heritage month Bucked20

and that sh!t was made up by white people.

no latino knows about that crapp untill they get to the US and we still dont understand what we are celebrating, why or when is it

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That's because all of Western civilization (and half the east) is built on Greek and Roman ideas.

It's impossible to understate the level of influence those cultures have on the world.

Understanding those cultures forms the basis of understanding pretty much the entire modern world.

Not because they're white.

ZombieKiller7

Those cultures did not exist in isolation, nor does their influence. Hey what happened to the Roman numeral system? Oh that's right, the Arabian system was better so we use that. Paper, gunpowder, printing, the compass...wouldn't be much of our modern western civilization without these Chinese inventions.

Just saying...

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[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

That's because all of Western civilization (and half the east) is built on Greek and Roman ideas.

It's impossible to understate the level of influence those cultures have on the world.

Understanding those cultures forms the basis of understanding pretty much the entire modern world.

Not because they're white.

br0kenrabbit

Those cultures did not exist in isolation, nor does their influence. Hey what happened to the Roman numeral system? Oh that's right, the Arabian system was better so we use that. Paper, gunpowder, printing, the compass...wouldn't be much of our modern western civilization without these Chinese inventions.

Just saying...

With all due respect, in terms of significance it's not even close.

Ancient Rome and ancient Athens are western civilization.

Chinese culture, while interesting, has always been isolated, bearing no relevance outside its own borders.

Kudos to the Arabs for inventing 0, medicine and shish kebabs.

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[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

That's because all of Western civilization (and half the east) is built on Greek and Roman ideas.

It's impossible to understate the level of influence those cultures have on the world.

Understanding those cultures forms the basis of understanding pretty much the entire modern world.

Not because they're white.

ZombieKiller7

Those cultures did not exist in isolation, nor does their influence. Hey what happened to the Roman numeral system? Oh that's right, the Arabian system was better so we use that. Paper, gunpowder, printing, the compass...wouldn't be much of our modern western civilization without these Chinese inventions.

Just saying...

With all due respect, in terms of significance it's not even close.

Ancient Rome and ancient Athens are western civilization.

Chinese culture, while interesting, has always been isolated, bearing no relevance outside its own borders.

Kudos to the Arabs for inventing 0, medicine and shish kebabs.

LOL no

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#49 SouL-Tak3R
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Honestly Morgan Freeman said it best, he even thinks we should get rid of the holiday. All it does is remind you of the horrible history. The faster we forget, the faster we can move on. We shouldn't have a special holiday for any race.