If Black History Month isn't racist, why would White History Month be?

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#51 themajormayor
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How about having a month dedicated to an interesting part of history instead? Not one that bores me to death.

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#53 LJS9502_basic
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Anytime you make race an issue....even in a positive way....you continue racism. Until we treat all people as people and continue labels.....racism etc lives.
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#54 lpjazzman220
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First off I should state that I am against any month that is dedicated to a certain ehtnic group completely, I don't think it's right to divide people into different months of the year and saying "this is your month, and this is their month ect..." To me there is only American History and black history, hispanic history, asian history ect...are all a part of American History. I don't understand why people want to sepearte them.

I ask this question because today in one of my college classes a student said there should be a gay history month to celbrate them being gay and a black student said he agreed becasue he has a month to celbrate being black. But another student asked why can't there be a white history month, why can they be celberated but not her. And it got me to thinking this whole "race of the month" thing is just wrong.

For the record I am an ethnic minority as well (Jewish) so don't call me a nazi or racist or anything else, I'm non of those. I just think it's dumb and wrong to divide people into different months of the year. And it's hypocritical for one group of people to say that a White History Month would be racist but not a Black History Month or any other ethnicity history month isn't.

ShadowMoses900

i've discovered something in my adulthood, it seems that black people cant be racist...simple as that...if a white person calls a black guy a n***** is racist...if a black guy does it...its cool...if a white(or even latino) guy shoots a black guy...its a hate crime...if a black guy shoots a white/black guy...its just a shooting. black people can have an entire month dedicated to their history...its called being proud...if there is a white history month...itd be racist...its simple as that...however, we dont have white history month...and no, unlike what other people have said, the other 11 months arent white history month...american history is american history plain and simple...idc if youre white, black, asian, middle eastern or hispanic...if you did something of noteriety in america...its american history

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#55 Apathetic_Prick
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It's because of ideology imposed by liberals...only minorities can celebrate their heritage, not majorities, which is very sad.

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Actually, something like that would be a very conservative action; it's applying a bandaid to the shoulder that the arm was ripped from, if you catch my drift.

Cultural history months are, indeed, bullsh*t. If a nation is incapable of putting all the cultural data into its school curriculums, then it isn't deserving of that wealth of culture.

By the way, there was legalized slavery in Canada up until the 18th century when Great Britain banned the practise from its colonies. I'm not sure if anyone owned any slaves, but if they wanted to, up until that point, they damned well could.

And if the U.S. had caught onto GB and exploited child labour, they wouldn't have needed slaves, either...

That said, there were just as horrible atrocities amongst the "whites". And it's not like there's an Asian History month. I mean, if you're going to expose atrocities, the construction of the railroads across North America (in particular, the Canada-Pacific Railway, if I remember right) would be a much better place the start. Or don't. No, really, don't. The last thing we need is another culture being told once a year that they were victimized. And who they were victimized by. That can fuel even more racism.

I think it's better to leave that to the past and simply embrace it as part of one's national heritage, for better or for worse. And not have to put up with a pathetic attempt to accept a culture into society.

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#56 mingmao3046
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there shouldnt even be a black history month. it just perputrates the racial seperation
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#57 Apathetic_Prick
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It's because of ideology imposed by liberals...only minorities can celebrate their heritage, not majorities, which is very sad.

kingkong0124

Actually, something like that would be a very conservative action; it's applying a bandaid to the shoulder that the arm was ripped from, if you catch my drift.

Cultural history months are, indeed, bullsh*t. If a nation is incapable of putting all the cultural data into its school curriculums, then it isn't deserving of that wealth of culture.

By the way, there was legalized slavery in Canada up until the 18th century when Great Britain banned the practise from its colonies. I'm not sure if anyone owned any slaves, but if they wanted to, up until that point, they damned well could.

And if the U.S. had caught onto GB and exploited child labour, they wouldn't have needed slaves, either...

That said, there were just as horrible atrocities amongst the "whites". And it's not like there's an Asian History month. I mean, if you're going to expose atrocities, the construction of the railroads across North America (in particular, the Canada-Pacific Railway, if I remember right) would be a much better place the start. Or don't. No, really, don't. The last thing we need is another culture being told once a year that they were victimized. And who they were victimized by. That can fuel even more racism.

I think it's better to leave that to the past and simply embrace it as part of one's national heritage, for better or for worse. And not have to put up with a pathetic attempt to accept a culture into society.

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#58 lostfan132
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practically every day is white history month. in school you study white history for 95% of a history class. you spend a day maybe 2 covering civil rights. Im fine with any minority ethnicity having a month dedicated to them

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#59 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

It's because of ideology imposed by liberals...only minorities can celebrate their heritage, not majorities, which is very sad.

Apathetic_Prick

Actually, something like that would be a very conservative action; it's applying a bandaid to the shoulder that the arm was ripped from, if you catch my drift.

Cultural history months are, indeed, bullsh*t. If a nation is incapable of putting all the cultural data into its school curriculums, then it isn't deserving of that wealth of culture.

By the way, there was legalized slavery in Canada up until the 18th century when Great Britain banned the practise from its colonies. I'm not sure if anyone owned any slaves, but if they wanted to, up until that point, they damned well could.

And if the U.S. had caught onto GB and exploited child labour, they wouldn't have needed slaves, either...

That said, there were just as horrible atrocities amongst the "whites". And it's not like there's an Asian History month. I mean, if you're going to expose atrocities, the construction of the railroads across North America (in particular, the Canada-Pacific Railway, if I remember right) would be a much better place the start. Or don't. No, really, don't. The last thing we need is another culture being told once a year that they were victimized. And who they were victimized by. That can fuel even more racism.

I think it's better to leave that to the past and simply embrace it as part of one's national heritage, for better or for worse. And not have to put up with a pathetic attempt to accept a culture into society.

it would not be a liberal or conservative stance, race is not a "liberal" or conservative issue, by that i mean rights are not a east west issue they are a north south issue, libertarian v mandate(authoritarian) and having moths for certain people is most definitely an authoritarian stance.
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#61 LaytonsCat
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May's asian month in the states too I believe. I think we should make December white month, to coencide with Christmas and the snow

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#62 TopTierHustler
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practically every day is white history month. in school you study white history for 95% of a history class. you spend a day maybe 2 covering civil rights. Im fine with any minority ethnicity having a month dedicated to them

lostfan132

The majority of important people in this country have been white. Racist months don't exactly change that.

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#63 Mr_Cumberdale
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I am not being racist here, but maybe it's only month because their aren't very many important historical black figures?
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#64 kraychik
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While I agree with the main thrust of your position, you need to recognize that the black experience in America was for a long time one of enslavement and then subsequently second-class status. In other words, American history for blacks was, for a long time, quite a bit different than American history for whites.

In my view, however, the persistence of "Black History Month" is a leftist political ploy to divide Americans and pit them against one another. This is classical leftism, where various groups in a society are classified differently and attributed different interests and advantages/disadvantages. The most common manifestation of this "divide and conquer" political tactic is class warfare rhetoric, which we regularly see from left (most notably via President Obama). Again, I agree that a unified sense of history in the American context serves a greater purpose, and is more informative/educational, than historiography grounded in identity-politics that neglects the broader picture. Lastly, a great tool to expose hypocrisy and double-standards is simply to turn the tables. You did this by asking (seemingly rhetorically) whether it'd be racist to have a "White Racist Month". You and I both know the answer to this, as such a thing would immediately be decried as "racist" by the left, put on display their hypocrisy.

Oh, one more thing - your being Jewish, while somewhat obvious given your screen name, isn't necessary in order to give credence to your opinions or arguments. In other words, you don't need to be a minority in order to have an opinion on such issues. Either your opinions and arguments are substantiated, or they aren't. Your identity doesn't strengthen or weaken your position, so by stating that you are Jewish you are essentially playing into the games of the left, who seek to shut down debate and pretend that only certain groups can really understand certain issues.