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If one religion is the true religion then all the other are false. Not just Islam andJudaism.cryptosopoidium
Not necessarily. If Islam is right, then Christians and Jews are only partially wrong. Hence the whole concept behind the reconciling during the time of the Anti-Christ and the return of Jesus (as).
[QUOTE="Soulkiller225"]Cool.Toriko42If you post like that around here, god
Oh, I am very sorry. I did not know that would offend you. Next time I will think before I speak.:D Sorry. I mean it.
No, God's religion's were never flawed. Mankind themselves strayed away from God's teachings. This happened through the years, back when God's people were known as the Jews. Many prophets came down, from Noah to Moses, to Abraham. Each time, re-aligning God's people to the straight path. Heck, just look at the story of Moses, when he had only departed for a short period of time... and some of his people began to worship the golden calf... that in itself is a lesson.
The same occured when Jesus (as) was born to the Virgin Mary (pbuh), as a "sign unto mankind". The Jewish community he was born in rejected him, even though he came to correct their ways, as by this time much of their practices were vasty scewed.
After the departure of Jesus (as), various gospels were written by 'anonymous' writers across the world. 4 of over 30 were chosen, very arbitrarily (imo), by this one man (i forgot him name... will have to look it up)... who essentially wanted to create a clear definition of the Christian religion. This was still during the time where Christians were being persecuted by the Romans. This happened at least over 100 years after Jesus.
Roughly 700 years later, Muhammed (sas) was given the final revelation of God. What made this revelation unique was, it was not only meant to once against re-align monotheists onto the true path of God, but it was the final message who's sign in itself, would be it's preservation. Something that to that day, had not happened before. To this day, the Qur'an you find on book shelves is the same as it was when it was revealed. Not a single word changed.
This is very much why, most of the converts in the mosques in Massachusettes have large numbers of Jewish and Christian converts. As many of them seems to find the missing pieces in the Qur'an.
All three do have a lot in common back in the days. I mean, almost all the prophets were the same, and the initial teaching too.
But what screwed it was mankind's stubborness to heed what was told to them thorugh the Prophets. They came up with their own interpertation of what was told.
Now... this my perspective as a Muslim.No, God's religion's were never flawed. Mankind themselves strayed away from God's teachings. This happened through the years, back when God's people were known as the Jews. Many prophets came down, from Noah to Moses, to Abraham. Each time, re-aligning God's people to the straight path. Heck, just look at the story of Moses, when he had only departed for a short period of time... and some of his people began to worship the golden calf... that in itself is a lesson.
The same occured when Jesus (as) was born to the Virgin Mary (pbuh), as a "sign unto mankind". The Jewish community he was born in rejected him, even though he came to correct their ways, as by this time much of their practices were vasty scewed.
After the departure of Jesus (as), various gospels were written by 'anonymous' writers across the world. 4 of over 30 were chosen, very arbitrarily (imo), by this one man (i forgot him name... will have to look it up)... who essentially wanted to create a clear definition of the Christian religion. This was still during the time where Christians were being persecuted by the Romans. This happened at least over 100 years after Jesus.
Roughly 700 years later, Muhammed (sas) was given the final revelation of God. What made this revelation unique was, it was not only meant to once against re-align monotheists onto the true path of God, but it was the final message who's sign in itself, would be it's preservation. Something that to that day, had not happened before. To this day, the Qur'an you find on book shelves is the same as it was when it was revealed. Not a single word changed.
This is very much why, most of the converts in the mosques in Massachusettes have large numbers of Jewish and Christian converts. As many of them seems to find the missing pieces in the Qur'an.
rimnet00
very well said.
Is that suppose to be true. The those people that are Judasim and Islam are wrong. Because those religons still make 1 billion+ so they are wrong. Which is the correct religion? SO wait god flawed his own religions. It took good three religions. demonslayer228No it didnt, to every people was sent their apostle.
Is that suppose to be true. The those people that are Judasim and Islam are wrong. Because those religons still make 1 billion+ so they are wrong. Which is the correct religion? SO wait god flawed his own religions. It took good three religions. demonslayer228
Funny that you bring up that 1 billion, because a christian has told me before, "If so many people follow it, it must be right". :lol:
I guess he didn't realize how many people follow the other religions.
jesus is fake, religion is rape...VapidSoulno, jesus was real
[QUOTE="demonslayer228"]Is that suppose to be true. The those people that are Judasim and Islam are wrong. Because those religons still make 1 billion+ so they are wrong. Which is the correct religion? SO wait god flawed his own religions. It took good three religions. Deity_Slapper
Funny that you bring up that 1 billion, because a christian has told me before, "If so many people follow it, it must be right". :lol:
I guess he didn't realize how many people follow the other religions.
i believe islam is the largest religion in the world now[QUOTE="VapidSoul"]jesus is fake, religion is rape...DivergeUnifyno, jesus was real
[QUOTE="demonslayer228"]Is that suppose to be true. The those people that are Judasim and Islam are wrong. Because those religons still make 1 billion+ so they are wrong. Which is the correct religion? SO wait god flawed his own religions. It took good three religions. Deity_Slapper
Funny that you bring up that 1 billion, because a christian has told me before, "If so many people follow it, it must be right". :lol:
I guess he didn't realize how many people follow the other religions.
i believe islam is the largest religion in the world nowThen using the illustrious logic of the christian, christianity must be false then. :lol:
The religion with the most members is the true religion! Oh no! Jesus was a fraud! :shock:
[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="VapidSoul"]jesus is fake, religion is rape...Deity_Slapperno, jesus was real
[QUOTE="demonslayer228"]Is that suppose to be true. The those people that are Judasim and Islam are wrong. Because those religons still make 1 billion+ so they are wrong. Which is the correct religion? SO wait god flawed his own religions. It took good three religions. Deity_Slapper
Funny that you bring up that 1 billion, because a christian has told me before, "If so many people follow it, it must be right". :lol:
I guess he didn't realize how many people follow the other religions.
i believe islam is the largest religion in the world nowThen using the illustrious logic of the christian, christianity must be false then. :lol:
The religion with the most members is the true religion! Oh no! Jesus was a fraud! :shock:
well islam recognizes Jesus as a prophet... so he was no fraud if you go by Islam...Is that suppose to be true. The those people that are Judasim and Islam are wrong. Because those religons still make 1 billion+ so they are wrong. Which is the correct religion? SO wait god flawed his own religions. It took good three religions. demonslayer228
Erm, yeah. So what's your point?
And if Christianity is right then Jews can still enter heaven as they get a chance to change their mind.
[QUOTE="Deity_Slapper"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="VapidSoul"]jesus is fake, religion is rape...DivergeUnifyno, jesus was real
[QUOTE="demonslayer228"]Is that suppose to be true. The those people that are Judasim and Islam are wrong. Because those religons still make 1 billion+ so they are wrong. Which is the correct religion? SO wait god flawed his own religions. It took good three religions. Deity_Slapper
Funny that you bring up that 1 billion, because a christian has told me before, "If so many people follow it, it must be right". :lol:
I guess he didn't realize how many people follow the other religions.
i believe islam is the largest religion in the world nowThen using the illustrious logic of the christian, christianity must be false then. :lol:
The religion with the most members is the true religion! Oh no! Jesus was a fraud! :shock:
well islam recognizes Jesus as a prophet... so he was no fraud if you go by Islam...He's not a savior though.
[QUOTE="demonslayer228"]Is that suppose to be true. The those people that are Judasim and Islam are wrong. Because those religons still make 1 billion+ so they are wrong. Which is the correct religion? SO wait god flawed his own religions. It took good three religions. Memberino
Erm, yeah. So what's your point?
And if Christianity is right then Jews can still enter heaven as they get a chance to change their mind.
Ha! Nice rules there buddy, and nice god you have too. "I'll let you in, but ony if you change your mind!"
What are they gonna do? How can a person change their mind so quickly? They would just say, "ok, we change our minds." But god would know better than to believe a person will change their entire belief system in a matter of seconds. He would know they are just saying that to save their asses, and he would cast them away anyway. So why would he even ask them in the first place?
[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="Deity_Slapper"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="VapidSoul"]jesus is fake, religion is rape...Deity_Slapperno, jesus was real
[QUOTE="demonslayer228"]Is that suppose to be true. The those people that are Judasim and Islam are wrong. Because those religons still make 1 billion+ so they are wrong. Which is the correct religion? SO wait god flawed his own religions. It took good three religions. Deity_Slapper
Funny that you bring up that 1 billion, because a christian has told me before, "If so many people follow it, it must be right". :lol:
I guess he didn't realize how many people follow the other religions.
i believe islam is the largest religion in the world nowThen using the illustrious logic of the christian, christianity must be false then. :lol:
The religion with the most members is the true religion! Oh no! Jesus was a fraud! :shock:
well islam recognizes Jesus as a prophet... so he was no fraud if you go by Islam...He's not a savior though.
but he wasn't a fraud...[QUOTE="Deity_Slapper"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="Deity_Slapper"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="VapidSoul"]jesus is fake, religion is rape...DivergeUnifyno, jesus was real
[QUOTE="demonslayer228"]Is that suppose to be true. The those people that are Judasim and Islam are wrong. Because those religons still make 1 billion+ so they are wrong. Which is the correct religion? SO wait god flawed his own religions. It took good three religions. Deity_Slapper
Funny that you bring up that 1 billion, because a christian has told me before, "If so many people follow it, it must be right". :lol:
I guess he didn't realize how many people follow the other religions.
i believe islam is the largest religion in the world nowThen using the illustrious logic of the christian, christianity must be false then. :lol:
The religion with the most members is the true religion! Oh no! Jesus was a fraud! :shock:
well islam recognizes Jesus as a prophet... so he was no fraud if you go by Islam...He's not a savior though.
but he wasn't a fraud...I think you understand the point I was trying to make...
[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="Deity_Slapper"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="Deity_Slapper"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="VapidSoul"]jesus is fake, religion is rape...Deity_Slapperno, jesus was real
[QUOTE="demonslayer228"]Is that suppose to be true. The those people that are Judasim and Islam are wrong. Because those religons still make 1 billion+ so they are wrong. Which is the correct religion? SO wait god flawed his own religions. It took good three religions. Deity_Slapper
Funny that you bring up that 1 billion, because a christian has told me before, "If so many people follow it, it must be right". :lol:
I guess he didn't realize how many people follow the other religions.
i believe islam is the largest religion in the world nowThen using the illustrious logic of the christian, christianity must be false then. :lol:
The religion with the most members is the true religion! Oh no! Jesus was a fraud! :shock:
well islam recognizes Jesus as a prophet... so he was no fraud if you go by Islam...He's not a savior though.
but he wasn't a fraud...I think you understand the point I was trying to make...
i do, but the fact that another religion still recognizes him as a messenger of God shows he was an important figureNow... this my perspective as a Muslim.No, God's religion's were never flawed. Mankind themselves strayed away from God's teachings. This happened through the years, back when God's people were known as the Jews. Many prophets came down, from Noah to Moses, to Abraham. Each time, re-aligning God's people to the straight path. Heck, just look at the story of Moses, when he had only departed for a short period of time... and some of his people began to worship the golden calf... that in itself is a lesson.
The same occured when Jesus (as) was born to the Virgin Mary (pbuh), as a "sign unto mankind". The Jewish community he was born in rejected him, even though he came to correct their ways, as by this time much of their practices were vasty scewed.
After the departure of Jesus (as), various gospels were written by 'anonymous' writers across the world. 4 of over 30 were chosen, very arbitrarily (imo), by this one man (i forgot him name... will have to look it up)... who essentially wanted to create a clear definition of the Christian religion. This was still during the time where Christians were being persecuted by the Romans. This happened at least over 100 years after Jesus.
Roughly 700 years later, Muhammed (sas) was given the final revelation of God. What made this revelation unique was, it was not only meant to once against re-align monotheists onto the true path of God, but it was the final message who's sign in itself, would be it's preservation. Something that to that day, had not happened before. To this day, the Qur'an you find on book shelves is the same as it was when it was revealed. Not a single word changed.
This is very much why, most of the converts in the mosques in Massachusettes have large numbers of Jewish and Christian converts. As many of them seems to find the missing pieces in the Qur'an.
rimnet00
So is Islam the 'complete' story? and christians are only reading a part of it?
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