if Socialism is so bad.. why is Canada and other socialist countries booming?

Look at job growth over the last 50 years in every country. People get all excited over a short trend, but you may want to look at the bigger picture. The US has been one of the most consistent countries with both job and economic growth.

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[QUOTE="jks22112"] Oh, what propaganda can do..jks22112

who's propoganda are you referring to?

its not republican since this is a democratic poll.

you dont provide any statement of why your opinion degrades those that talk and stand up for topics not spoken about in mainstream media.

im all for opinions, but at least back up why you feel the way you do

Look at job growth over the last 50 years in every country. People get all excited over a short trend, but you may want to look at the bigger picture. The US has been one of the most consistent countries with both job and economic growth.

sonicare

thats true, but currently we're undergoing a recessive climate with virtually no room for job growth or job openings.

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Look at job growth over the last 50 years in every country. People get all excited over a short trend, but you may want to look at the bigger picture. The US has been one of the most consistent countries with both job and economic growth.

thats true, but currently we're undergoing a recessive climate with virtually no room for job growth or job openings.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]"Before It's News", submitted by Anonymous, sourced to "TheComingDepression.net"

Er, right. :Pbluezy

It is a fact that many people in Canada have died because of their poorly run state healthcare system. Some of them mind you, have been able to receive the care they needed by going to the US. We should be asking ourselves why this is the case. Barbara Wagner from Oregon was denied a life-saving drug by their state-run healthcare system but was offered a drug for assisted suicidethat article

This fine piece of journalism also shows a horrific lack of proof to back up the claims, as well as basic journalistic standards, like, you know, objectivity.

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[QUOTE="sonicare"]

Look at job growth over the last 50 years in every country. People get all excited over a short trend, but you may want to look at the bigger picture. The US has been one of the most consistent countries with both job and economic growth.

sonicare

thats true, but currently we're undergoing a recessive climate with virtually no room for job growth or job openings.

well, i dont think anyone would ever say socialism brought about any sort of success, but economic climates are the same as business cycles and do fluctuate between zones of decline and growth.

the difference is that we haven't experiences something of this magnitude in this century and are looking at different ways to cope and get through it.

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who's propoganda are you referring to?

its not republican since this is a democratic poll.

LubiBaby

you dont provide any statement of why your opinion degrades those that talk and stand up for topics not spoken about in mainstream media.

im all for opinions, but at least back up why you feel the way you do

Pff...I live in Germany. Look around Europe to see what real socialism is. It's not exactly working to well in most cases. Eventhough Germany is a capitalist country with extensive social programs, things are a mess right now.

china is having massive inflation problems and worker walkout, japan has national debt that would make the most hardcore keynesian blush, australia is fiscally conservative and i dont know much about canada. surrealnumber5

Yeah, Japan turned out to have a very low MPC, among other things... which is why using it as an example to disprove Keynesianism as a whole is not that solid. The US has a much higher MPC.

Canada is Socialist, I never new.

seriously.. Why are all these Socialist places like Canada, japan, China and Australia booming right now? Month after month they report record growth and record job creation.. I thought Capitalism was the best thing ever, why is our economy here in the US lagging while these other socialist countries are booming?

I thought republicans said socialism is bad, am i missing something here?

ColonelDrakePS3

I think the real question is if anyone thinks socialism is so great, then why not live in those countries instead of trying to change the U.S.?:P

NDP, the closest thing to a socialist party in Canada, is only the fourth most popular party in the country.

They're doing better because we're stuck with Obama....fedora80

the rich republicans like to scare average americans, so they can keep their money. no other way to explain it.

[QUOTE="fedora80"]They're doing better because we're stuck with Obama....YoungGSReviewer

I laughed because none of those countries are socialist, and I believe that most are more capitalist than socialist. Most of them are facing economic difficulty too. Canada is a bit of an oddball.

NDP, the closest thing to a socialist party in Canada, is only the fourth most popular party in the country.

one_plum

the rich republicans like to scare average americans, so they can keep their money. no other way to explain it.

bokiloki

[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]None of those countries are socialist. They are, in fact, capitalistic like the US (with the exception of China which is communist, although they're moving towards capitalism and Hong Kong is probably the freest economy in the world).ColonelDrakePS3

NDP, the closest thing to a socialist party in Canada, is only the fourth most popular party in the country.

one_plum

THe most "socialist" countries are the northering european ones, and they are doing better than anybody else.

There murder rates are lower than canada's for god's sake.

They aren't socialist though, they still have free market, they just have alot of social programs and high taxes. 

tfw i posted ITT 3 years ago

I laughed because none of those countries are socialist, and I believe that most are more capitalist than socialist. Most of them are facing economic difficulty too. Canada is a bit of an oddball.

coolbeans90

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NDP, the closest thing to a socialist party in Canada, is only the fourth most popular party in the country.

Aljosa23

Pretty much; the Liberal Party ran itself into the ground; Quebecers are fed up with the Bloc and the Conservative Party has been showing how ugly they really are.

If true all natons mentioned except Japan are able to do it with less tax burden on individuals and companies than the US. I'm Australian and I definitely feel we are to the right of America on many issues. Both political parties always try to balance the budget, are against gay marriage and strict on illegal immigration for examples. On the flip side we have a carbon tax, the greens are a 3rd party who does well in elections (they are to the left of any party in the US) and the gun laws are very strict. It was also our right wing party who introduced those guns laws so it's hard to make direct comparisons but on economic issues such as taxes and balancing the budget i would say we are to the right of the US. That said, I'm not a political scientist and don't really pay much attention to politics so it's possible we are socialists but if so it's the first I have heard of it!

Why the fvck did I read through this thread, I should have known from the title that it was going to be full of headache-inducing fail. :(

derp.

americans are socialists.

or do you not pay taxes that go into public works or pay into social security and medicare?

it hurts my soul that people are so mindbogglingly dim.

OMG, From 2010!

I thought Japan's economy wasn't exactly booming the last couple of years...

Canada is a socialist country... Lol. I must be living in another country

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[QUOTE="ColonelDrakePS3"] What? are you joking? China is borderline communist and Canada is poster country for Socialism along with AustraliaColonelDrakePS3

My sarcasm meter is broken right now so I can't really tell if you're being sarcastic but China is pretty much the country you'd pick if you wanted to describe absolute nearly laissez-faire capitalism. On your second point, what?

I mean any one who calls Obama a socialist is out of their minds.

I cant help but think about the European Union and how there are differences across its member states, but still have the share the same currency. It's seem like restructuring in that direction would reduce much the hatred and political divide.

majwill24

That's not working out so good for us Europeans though. Considering the Euro is still in risk of collapsing.

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I laughed because none of those countries are socialist, and I believe that most are more capitalist than socialist. Most of them are facing economic difficulty too. Canada is a bit of an oddball.

DroidPhysX

Yeah, it was a little weird running across that one.

seriously.. Why are all these Socialist places like Canada, japan, China and Australia booming right now? Month after month they report record growth and record job creation.. I thought Capitalism was the best thing ever, why is our economy here in the US lagging while these other socialist countries are booming?

I thought republicans said socialism is bad, am i missing something here?

ColonelDrakePS3

seriously.. Why are all these Socialist places like Canada, japan, China and Australia booming right now? Month after month they report record growth and record job creation.. I thought Capitalism was the best thing ever, why is our economy here in the US lagging while these other socialist countries are booming?

I thought republicans said socialism is bad, am i missing something here?

ColonelDrakePS3

everything you just said is completely wrong.

None of those countries are even remotely socialist. (well except for China maybe, but that's still pushing it.) Canada and Australia have freer economies than the US. Japan's economy has been crap for ages. etc.