Depends on the behaviour of the cashier, how much extra money I get, and whether or not I notice it.
I almost always count my payback, and cashiers aren't much of an ass to me, so the only real issue is the quantity.
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Depends on the behaviour of the cashier, how much extra money I get, and whether or not I notice it.
I almost always count my payback, and cashiers aren't much of an ass to me, so the only real issue is the quantity.
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Soul-Doctor"]If it's a large multi-million dollar corporation chain store, yes I would keep it. If it's a small mom-and-pop type of store, I would return it.Soul-Doctor
Yeah, it's not as if large corporations go broke and have to lay off employees. :roll:
They go broke when they make greedy moves that don't pay off. It's not my problem, and having a few cents back isn't going to save them. Independent stores operate differently. They don't look for ways to swallow the competition, and end up being destroyed by their own greed. They need every penny they can get to stay afloat. Plus, those kind of stores usually have charm, and even sometimes certain products that the chains don't. I don't mind looking out for the well-being of a unique merchant.Mom and pop stores go broke because they aren't making money. Same reason that EVERY company goes broke. A mom and pop store that is losing money because they can't keep up with the competition is no different than a multi-million dollar corporation that can't keep up with the competition. Bad management is bad management, period. Bad business decisions are bad business decisions, period. And the cashier making minimum wage at a large chain store is no different than the cashier making minimum wage at a small mom and pop store. Cashiers at big chain stores get FIRED for these kinds of mistakes. Exact same thing at mom and pop stores. In either case, you've got a poor cashier losing his/her job for not being able to run a cash register properly, but somehow it's okay when that cashier works at Publix instead of Granny G's Food Mart?
Sorry dude, but that's a load of crap. And don't even tell me that you're talking about the COMPANY rather than the workers. The company is made up of PEOPLE. Big faceless corporations are made up of people just the same as the mom and pop store. And a small mom and pop store that has less money to tolerate these mistakes has MORE of a reason to get rid of incompetent cashiers. There's actually MORE of a reason to keep the money when a mom and pop store gives you too much change. THAT gives the owners incentive to fire the cashiers and hire ones who know how to use a calculator.
And furthermore, for all your talk about how you don't care about the big faceless corporation, you sure as hell shop there anyway, don't you? Guess who gets crapped on at big faceless corporations? That's right, the people at the bottom level, such as the CASHIERS. And when the companies go broke, do you think that the CEOs are going to give up their multi-million dollar salaries to help the company stay afloat? No, they run off with their millions of dollars while thousands of poor people get fired and can no longer pay the rent. You're putting money into the rich CEO's pocket just by shopping there in the first place, then you take it out on the damn cashier when you get mad. You're seeing the 17 year old high school dropout cashier AS the big faceless corporation when she is NO different than the good ol' face of Americana who is working at a no name local small business.
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Soul-Doctor"] It's yours if they give it to you. A cashier's incompetence is not your problem. Soul-Doctor
If a bank accidentally types an extra 0 and puts $1000 into your account instead of $100, do you think it'll stand up in court when you sue them for turning that $1000 back into $100?
I wouldn't sue them.Why not? According to you it's YOUR money now, so why would you just let them take it back?
Mom and pop stores go broke because they aren't making money. Same reason that EVERY company goes broke. MrGeezerNo, sometimes corporations make bad moves playing the consumer field.
A mom and pop store that is losing money because they can't keep up with the competition is no different than a multi-million dollar corporation that can't keep up with the competition. MrGeezerIf a corporation has multiple millions on hand, then obviously they're not really having trouble keeping up with the competition.
And the cashier making minimum wage at a large chain store is no different than the cashier making minimum wage at a small mom and pop store. Cashiers at big chain stores get FIRED for these kinds of mistakes. Exact same thing at mom and pop stores. In either case, you've got a poor cashier losing his/her job for not being able to run a cash register properly, but somehow it's okay when that cashier works at Publix instead of Granny G's Food Mart?MrGeezerYes it's ok, because it's not the same thing. An independent store isn't a puppet of the government or the stock market.
Sorry dude, but that's a load of crap. MrGeezerDon't make me cry! :cry:
And don't even tell me that you're talking about the COMPANY rather than the workers. The company is made up of PEOPLE. Big faceless corporations are made up of people just the same as the mom and pop store. And a small mom and pop store that has less money to tolerate these mistakes has MORE of a reason to get rid of incompetent cashiers. There's actually MORE of a reason to keep the money when a mom and pop store gives you too much change. THAT gives the owners incentive to fire the cashiers and hire ones who know how to use a calculator. MrGeezerAfter all this CRAP about how it's the same thing, now you're suggesting it would be more acceptable to keep excess change from a small store? :roll:
And furthermore, for all your talk about how you don't care about the big faceless corporation, you sure as hell shop there anyway, don't you? MrGeezerSometimes you don't have a choice, and you still need to buy necessities. Duhh....
Guess who gets crapped on at big faceless corporations? That's right, the people at the bottom level, such as the CASHIERS. And when the companies go broke, do you think that the CEOs are going to give up their multi-million dollar salaries to help the company stay afloat? No, they run off with their millions of dollars while thousands of poor people get fired and can no longer pay the rent. You're putting money into the rich CEO's pocket just by shopping there in the first place, then you take it out on the damn cashier when you get mad. You're seeing the 17 year old high school dropout cashier AS the big faceless corporation when she is NO different than the good ol' face of Americana who is working at a no name local small business.MrGeezer1. When did I say I was mad? Would I be mad about receiving too much change? Is this the right thread? :? 2. When a corporation closes it's doors, the cashiers will not suffer. They automatically qualify for unemployment benefits to keep them afloat while they search for a better job. And if they want something better than cashier work then IT'S UP TO THEM to get the education, or whatever else is required to acquire a big time position, maybe even CEO of a corporate chain store... 3. Don't act like you care about the little guy. A little birdie told me of your obsession with getting a convenience store clerk fired because ironically, you got mad at him, and even saw it as a "victory" when he eventually got fired. Your post wreaks of hypocrisy.
[QUOTE="Soul-Doctor"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]
If a bank accidentally types an extra 0 and puts $1000 into your account instead of $100, do you think it'll stand up in court when you sue them for turning that $1000 back into $100?
I wouldn't sue them.Why not? According to you it's YOUR money now, so why would you just let them take it back?
Ok tough guy. :roll: Seems you're in the mood to argue. I'll humor you. First of all, if I noticed an extra $900 in my account, investigated it, and saw it was from an extra zero being hit, I'd jus not touch it. I'd leave it alone knowing that once an audit is performed, they'd catch it. I'd just let it pass until they noticed on their own. The money would still be there because I'd be an idiot to try and take it when I know they'd find out. That whole court scenario would never happen. There's no paper trail when you get a few extra coins from a cashier.Sadly, I don't really count change, I just take it, and go. If I ever noticed, it would be too late.
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"] Mom and pop stores go broke because they aren't making money. Same reason that EVERY company goes broke. Soul-DoctorNo, sometimes corporations make bad moves playing the consumer field.
A mom and pop store that is losing money because they can't keep up with the competition is no different than a multi-million dollar corporation that can't keep up with the competition. MrGeezerIf a corporation has multiple millions on hand, then obviously they're not really having trouble keeping up with the competition.
And the cashier making minimum wage at a large chain store is no different than the cashier making minimum wage at a small mom and pop store. Cashiers at big chain stores get FIRED for these kinds of mistakes. Exact same thing at mom and pop stores. In either case, you've got a poor cashier losing his/her job for not being able to run a cash register properly, but somehow it's okay when that cashier works at Publix instead of Granny G's Food Mart?MrGeezerYes it's ok, because it's not the same thing. An independent store isn't a puppet of the government or the stock market.
Sorry dude, but that's a load of crap. MrGeezerDon't make me cry! :cry:
And don't even tell me that you're talking about the COMPANY rather than the workers. The company is made up of PEOPLE. Big faceless corporations are made up of people just the same as the mom and pop store. And a small mom and pop store that has less money to tolerate these mistakes has MORE of a reason to get rid of incompetent cashiers. There's actually MORE of a reason to keep the money when a mom and pop store gives you too much change. THAT gives the owners incentive to fire the cashiers and hire ones who know how to use a calculator. MrGeezerAfter all this CRAP about how it's the same thing, now you're suggesting it would be more acceptable to keep excess change from a small store? :roll:
And furthermore, for all your talk about how you don't care about the big faceless corporation, you sure as hell shop there anyway, don't you? MrGeezerSometimes you don't have a choice, and you still need to buy necessities. Duhh....
Guess who gets crapped on at big faceless corporations? That's right, the people at the bottom level, such as the CASHIERS. And when the companies go broke, do you think that the CEOs are going to give up their multi-million dollar salaries to help the company stay afloat? No, they run off with their millions of dollars while thousands of poor people get fired and can no longer pay the rent. You're putting money into the rich CEO's pocket just by shopping there in the first place, then you take it out on the damn cashier when you get mad. You're seeing the 17 year old high school dropout cashier AS the big faceless corporation when she is NO different than the good ol' face of Americana who is working at a no name local small business.MrGeezer1. When did I say I was mad? Would I be mad about receiving too much change? Is this the right thread? :? 2. When a corporation closes it's doors, the cashiers will not suffer. They automatically qualify for unemployment benefits to keep them afloat while they search for a better job. And if they want something better than cashier work then IT'S UP TO THEM to get the education, or whatever else is required to acquire a big time position, maybe even CEO of a corporate chain store... 3. Don't act like you care about the little guy. A little birdie told me of your obsession with getting a convenience store clerk fired because ironically, you got mad at him, and even saw it as a "victory" when he eventually got fired. Your post wreaks of hypocrisy.
Every loss that every company takes is a calculated gamble. You open a store in a bad location just to stomp out the competition, that is NO different than a small business opening a store without doing the proper research. A business is a business. And a small business relying on their "small business" nature to get customers out of guilt is NO different than freaking Wal-Mart spending millions of dollars to guilt trip potential customers into shopping there because they're "eco friendly". Misjudge demand, not keeping costs down, not offering quality that people want, misjudging the state of the market at large, these are the things that hurt BUSINESSES. Not just small businesses, not just big businesses, but BUSINESSES. If a small local shop cannot compete in the same place as Wal-Mart, then that mom and pop store DESERVES to go out of business, because consumers have made their choice and they chose Wal-Mart.
And dude, YOU are the one acting like you give a crap about the little guy. YOU'RE the one whose like, "screw the big corporations, but OMG...I wouldn't do that to the honest hardworking American working at the mom and pop store!" See, I wouldn't take money from ANYONE because I actually have MORALS. You want to talk about HYPOCRISY, then you'd best not say that it's okay to steal from the big corporations as long as you help out the little guy. If it's REALLY your damn money, then you'd keep it REGARDLESS of where the incompetent cashier worked. And if it's NOT your money, then it doesn't hold up to basically say "well it's okay because it's a big corporation and they won't miss the money." What, now stealing is okay as long as nobody knows that you stole it?
Yes, I need the money more than the store does.
Sorry, I know thats selfish, but after bills and everything I generally can only save 20-50 bucks a month into my savings account. If I get some extra money at the store, thats fine by me.
Yes, I need the money more than the store does.
Sorry, I know thats selfish, but after bills and everything I generally can only save 20-50 bucks a month into my savings account. If I get some extra money at the store, thats fine by me.
mrbojangles25
Just how much money do you make from these kinds of mistakes? Because unless you're RELYING on this stuff as part of your income, there's a good chance that you don't NEED the money at all.
Every loss that every company takes is a calculated gamble. You open a store in a bad location just to stomp out the competition, that is NO different than a small business opening a store without doing the proper research. A business is a business. And a small business relying on their "small business" nature to get customers out of guilt is NO different than freaking Wal-Mart spending millions of dollars to guilt trip potential customers into shopping there because they're "eco friendly". Misjudge demand, not keeping costs down, not offering quality that people want, misjudging the state of the market at large, these are the things that hurt BUSINESSES. Not just small businesses, not just big businesses, but BUSINESSES. If a small local shop cannot compete in the same place as Wal-Mart, then that mom and pop store DESERVES to go out of business, because consumers have made their choice and they chose Wal-Mart.MrGeezerIs this how it works in your dream world?
And dude, YOU are the one acting like you give a crap about the little guy. YOU'RE the one whose like, "screw the big corporations, but OMG...I wouldn't do that to the honest hardworking American working at the mom and pop store!" See, I wouldn't take money from ANYONE because I actually have MORALS. MrGeezerI didn't say it like that. It's not even about morals. You sure are confused. It's just about personal choice. I'd give the change back to the small store because I feel like it. Because I understand how it is to try and run a small business with no help from big brother (I doubt the corner liquor store would get a bailout). Because I want to see them survive, and not have a world full of carbon-copy corporations.
And if it's NOT your money, then it doesn't hold up to basically say "well it's okay because it's a big corporation and they won't miss the money." What, now stealing is okay as long as nobody knows that you stole it?MrGeezerWho said they woldn't notice? I'm just saying they'd survive just fine, and an incompetent cashier is not my problem. It's not worth the time to go back and help them balance their books. I hope I don't have to explain that again. It would help if you were able to understand context in the words people type.
[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]
Yes, I need the money more than the store does.
Sorry, I know thats selfish, but after bills and everything I generally can only save 20-50 bucks a month into my savings account. If I get some extra money at the store, thats fine by me.
MrGeezer
Just how much money do you make from these kinds of mistakes? Because unless you're RELYING on this stuff as part of your income, there's a good chance that you don't NEED the money at all.
oh i was thinking like a few bucks maybe, like the guy thinks I bought something for 33 bucks instead of 37 or something, and I gave him 40. Didnt see the original post said five cents.
Dude...thats like a five dollar footlong! Lunch and dinner for free.
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]
[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]
Yes, I need the money more than the store does.
Sorry, I know thats selfish, but after bills and everything I generally can only save 20-50 bucks a month into my savings account. If I get some extra money at the store, thats fine by me.
mrbojangles25
Just how much money do you make from these kinds of mistakes? Because unless you're RELYING on this stuff as part of your income, there's a good chance that you don't NEED the money at all.
oh i was thinking like a few bucks maybe, like the guy thinks I bought something for 33 bucks instead of 37 or something, and I gave him 40. Didnt see the original post said five cents.
Dude...thats like a five dollar footlong! Lunch and dinner for free.
Even at a few bucks, it's STILL the same ****. Five bucks might buy you a lunch and dinner, but NOBODY with a computer and internet access NEEDS an extra five bucks. Instead of buying a footlong sub and a drink, you could've been buying 25 cent ramen noodles and drinking tap water. What we're STILL talking about is people finding reasons to justify stealing. And the logical result of this is that to the person living in the ghetto who can barely afford to keep a roof above his head, HE "needs" your money more than you do. But you'd still be mighty ****ing pissed if he took that five dollar footlong from you.
[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]
Just how much money do you make from these kinds of mistakes? Because unless you're RELYING on this stuff as part of your income, there's a good chance that you don't NEED the money at all.
MrGeezer
oh i was thinking like a few bucks maybe, like the guy thinks I bought something for 33 bucks instead of 37 or something, and I gave him 40. Didnt see the original post said five cents.
Dude...thats like a five dollar footlong! Lunch and dinner for free.
Even at a few bucks, it's STILL the same ****. Five bucks might buy you a lunch and dinner, but NOBODY with a computer and internet access NEEDS an extra five bucks. Instead of buying a footlong sub and a drink, you could've been buying 25 cent ramen noodles and drinking tap water. What we're STILL talking about is people finding reasons to justify stealing. And the logical result of this is that to the person living in the ghetto who can barely afford to keep a roof above his head, HE "needs" your money more than you do. But you'd still be mighty ****ing pissed if he took that five dollar footlong from you.
People need more than the bare essentials. People need happiness. Ive done the Ramen thing when I worked full time and went to school for five years. it sucked, I was miserable.
So excuse me for taking a brief, once-a-year-if-that repreive at someone else's expense to gain a stomach full of happiness for a day. OK, so maybe the store had a 9995 profit instead of a 10000 profit. Thats a bloody shame.
Also, Ive worked in the ghetto for about three years. People that live there are on section 8 most of the time, and are poor out of laziness. They might need the money, but they dont earn it. Ive also seen their spendings habits: theyll go out and get food stamps, but then theyll take what little money they have and buy their son a lowrider bike with faux chrome on it. And no, I am not generalizing...there are TONS of people in the ghetto that live like that. Not all of them are like that, but there are plenty enough of them that are.
If I work a 12 hour day, like I did today, and go to the store and the cashier gives me five bucks extra in change, too bad. I put in a hard days work, dont get paid enough, so I am gonna think "Maybe this is karma rewarding me for doing a great job".
I also work retail a large part of the day, and more importantly, I work retail at a small business (i.e. mom and pop). We miscount things all the time. Its really, really not as big a deal as your making it seem.
Stop being so damn self-righteous. Between this and the New Zealander thread its getting a little old.
Just...chill out, man. You are definately a good person if you return the money. Kudos to you. But dont be so tough on people that accept a trivial amount of money from a business that mistakingly gives it to you.
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]
[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]
oh i was thinking like a few bucks maybe, like the guy thinks I bought something for 33 bucks instead of 37 or something, and I gave him 40. Didnt see the original post said five cents.
Dude...thats like a five dollar footlong! Lunch and dinner for free.
mrbojangles25
Dude, you can do whatever the hell you want to do, but just DON'T try to spoonfeed me some crap about how it's morally okay this time because you "deserve some happiness" or because you're taking from "the big faceless corporation." It's one thing to do something immoral and be okay with that, it's a completely different thing entirely to try to pretend to yourself and others that what you're doing is right. Yeah, I'm sure you think that five dollar footlong will make you happy. I'm also sure that when company executives commit tax fraud, they think that another yacht will make them happier. Fact is that EVERYONE wants more money, and people at EVERY single level are willing to somehow justify taking more of it. Even when they know that it's not theirs. It's EXACTLY how people pirate movies and videogames and music and then hide behind some BS about how they're totally in the right. It's not the ACT I have a problem so much as the self denial that people spout off in an attempt to justify the act. Stuff like, "I need the money more than they do". Like hell you do. Just say that you would take the money and that you don't care if it's right or wrong.
Even at a few bucks, it's STILL the same ****. Five bucks might buy you a lunch and dinner, but NOBODY with a computer and internet access NEEDS an extra five bucks. Instead of buying a footlong sub and a drink, you could've been buying 25 cent ramen noodles and drinking tap water. What we're STILL talking about is people finding reasons to justify stealing. And the logical result of this is that to the person living in the ghetto who can barely afford to keep a roof above his head, HE "needs" your money more than you do. But you'd still be mighty ****ing pissed if he took that five dollar footlong from you.
People need more than the bare essentials. People need happiness. Ive done the Ramen thing when I worked full time and went to school for five years. it sucked, I was miserable.
So excuse me for taking a brief, once-a-year-if-that repreive at someone else's expense to gain a stomach full of happiness for a day. OK, so maybe the store had a 9995 profit instead of a 10000 profit. Thats a bloody shame.
Also, Ive worked in the ghetto for about three years. People that live there are on section 8 most of the time, and are poor out of laziness. They might need the money, but they dont earn it. Ive also seen their spendings habits: theyll go out and get food stamps, but then theyll take what little money they have and buy their son a lowrider bike with faux chrome on it. And no, I am not generalizing...there are TONS of people in the ghetto that live like that. Not all of them are like that, but there are plenty enough of them that are.
If I work a 12 hour day, like I did today, and go to the store and the cashier gives me five bucks extra in change, too bad. I put in a hard days work, dont get paid enough, so I am gonna think "Maybe this is karma rewarding me for doing a great job".
I also work retail a large part of the day, and more importantly, I work retail at a small business (i.e. mom and pop). We miscount things all the time. Its really, really not as big a deal as your making it seem.
Stop being so damn self-righteous. Between this and the New Zealander thread its getting a little old.
Just...chill out, man. You are definately a good person if you return the money. Kudos to you. But dont be so tough on people that accept a trivial amount of money from a business that mistakingly gives it to you.
I just got an extra 5cents after buying a chocolate bar today, but I didn't tell the cashier. Would you inform the cashier if they gave you extra money (any amount?)
fmacraze
Creepy. I too got an extra 5 cents back at the store today, but I gave mine back. It was from an automatic change machine though. If I feel bad enough to give back 5 cents, I'm betting I'd give back a higher amount.
Yes, just because I do not usually realize it. If I do it is usually when I get back home.AvistannSame here. I just kind of quickly stuff my money into my wallet and get out of the way.
[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]
Just how much money do you make from these kinds of mistakes? Because unless you're RELYING on this stuff as part of your income, there's a good chance that you don't NEED the money at all.
MrGeezer
oh i was thinking like a few bucks maybe, like the guy thinks I bought something for 33 bucks instead of 37 or something, and I gave him 40. Didnt see the original post said five cents.
Dude...thats like a five dollar footlong! Lunch and dinner for free.
Even at a few bucks, it's STILL the same ****. Five bucks might buy you a lunch and dinner, but NOBODY with a computer and internet access NEEDS an extra five bucks. Instead of buying a footlong sub and a drink, you could've been buying 25 cent ramen noodles and drinking tap water. What we're STILL talking about is people finding reasons to justify stealing. And the logical result of this is that to the person living in the ghetto who can barely afford to keep a roof above his head, HE "needs" your money more than you do. But you'd still be mighty ****ing pissed if he took that five dollar footlong from you.
What if the extra change was used for a good cause, like tipping a waiter who is trying to pay for school?What if it was from a big chain-store?I'd give it back if I noticed right away honestly. I would feel bad knowing I took extra money if it happened.
yokofox33
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