If the Tea Party or Militias were composed primarily of minorities....

[QUOTE="Maniacc1"]Of course not. If black men totted AK-47's and semi-automatic machine guns in front of Capitol Hill, people would run in terror. Somehow it's ok for old white men to do it, though. blackregiment

Oh yes, Grandmothers singing Good Bless America are such a threat to our nation. :D We just must send swat teams to vcontrol them. :lol:

Watch the swat team in action controlling these "dangerous Tea Partiers" here...

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=147417

[QUOTE="D_Battery"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

You missed this link.

http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/da_kings_men/2010/03/31/a-pattern-of-intimidation-and-violence/

To answer your question, the mainstream media has tried to paint the Tea Party movement as violent. I simply provided some links to show that if one compares incidents of alleged violence and intimidation between members of the right and the left, it is not even close.

blackregiment

I disagree, It is very relevant. the leftist mainstream media has been trying to paint the Tea Party movement as violent, as do many posters in OT, when it is not. It is very relevant to show that this is disingenuous when there are far more examples of leftist acts of violence that any violence by the Tea Party, by far.

If you disagree, show us the videos of the Tea Party violence. Show us the videos of Tea Party Members throwing bottles at the police as was done recently in the AZ immigration law protests.

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/04/27/video-whose-protests-are-more-violent/

I'll give an example of how you are arguing:

Person A - "I don't think the Mets are going to do too well this season. What do you think?"

Person B - "The Yankees are going to do way worse."

While it may appear as though there is a connection between the two statements, the response Person B gave did not actually address Person A's statement in any way. Can you see how Person B's response does not logically follow from Person A's statement? That's essentially how you responded to Theokhoth's post, by bringing in new ideas which appear similar to the issue at hand but are in fact completely unrelated.

Of course not. If black men totted AK-47's and semi-automatic machine guns in front of Capitol Hill, people would run in terror. Somehow it's ok for old white men to do it, though. Maniacc1

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="D_Battery"] But we weren't comparing. We weren't even talking about "the left", whatever such an ambiguous term is supposed to mean. I don't understand why you brought up the acts of violence committed by a group very much distinct from the one being discussed in this thread. It's a matter of relevance.D_Battery

I disagree, It is very relevant. the leftist mainstream media has been trying to paint the Tea Party movement as violent, as do many posters in OT, when it is not. It is very relevant to show that this is disingenuous when there are far more examples of leftist acts of violence that any violence by the Tea Party, by far.

If you disagree, show us the videos of the Tea Party violence. Show us the videos of Tea Party Members throwing bottles at the police as was done recently in the AZ immigration law protests.

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/04/27/video-whose-protests-are-more-violent/

I'll give an example of how you are arguing:

Person A - "I don't think the Mets are going to do too well this season. What do you think?"

Person B - "The Yankees are going to do way worse."

While it may appear as though there is a connection between the two statements, the response Person B gave did not actually address Person A's statement in any way. Can you see how Person B's response does not logically follow from Person A's statement? That's essentially how you responded to Theokhoth's post, by bringing in new ideas which appear similar to the issue at hand but are in fact completely unrelated.

For the Nth time. The liberal mainscream media has done everything in its power to unfairly paint the conservative Tea Party movement as violent in an effort to discredit the movement. They have tried to paint it as a radical fringe group when actually, it is a very representative of mainstream America and their positions represent what a majority of the American people want.

"a new CBS/New York Times poll detailing the attitudes of tea party activists, who, it turns out, are more educated than the average American, more reflective of mainstream anxieties than any populist movement in memory and more closely aligned philosophically with the wider electorate than any big-city newsroom in America."

"More significantly, the polling showed that most tea party activists believe the taxes they pay are "fair." The largest number of them want their movement to work to reduce the size of government rather than focus on cutting budget deficits or lowering taxes. Whether you concur or not with this viewpoint, it exhibits more economic sophistication than we often hear from pandering senatorial candidates.

It was news that tea party activists -- unlike our president or most senators -- send their children to public schools. (With a public monopoly in place, where else are they expected to send their children?) The majority of them also deem Social Security and Medicare worthy taxpayer burdens, putting a crimp in the left-wing mythology that the anarchist mob is about to explode.

And though tea party supporters are more conservative than the average voter on social issues, as well -- particularly abortion, according to a separate Gallup Poll -- The New York Times reports that 8 in 10 tea party activists believe the movement should focus on economic issues rather than cultural ones."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/04/16/24-hour_party_people_105193.html

The left's propaganda arm, the liberal mainscream media's coverage of the Tea Party, is slanted to give the impression they are dangerous, which they are not. I simply presented a few of the many, many, many examples of violence and intimidation from the other side of the political spectrum.

I challenge anyone to show an example of the Tea Party members, burning the American flag, throwing rocks and bottles at the police, or destroying property, etc.

I can show you video after video of example of this from leftist protests by comparison, recent protests in AZ being the latest examples.

In light of the reality, based on actual, historical, documented video evidence, that Tea Party rallies are peaceful relative to those from the other side of the political spectrum by comparison, perhaps an appropriate message for the leftist mainscream media that is trying so hard to discredit the Tea Party movement, would be these verses from the Word of God.

Mat 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

or if one prefers that wisdom put into a secular form, people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Perhaps if the mainscream media would cease their efforts to incorrectly portray Tea Party gatherings as violent, then there would be no need to point out the reality of their hypocrisy. Maybe if the mainscream media would start reporting the facts and cease propagandizing, their circulation numbers and Nielsen ratings would stop falling through the floor of those glass houses they occupy.

The Tea Party gatherings are Americans exercising their First Amendment rights of free speech, the right to peaceably assemble, and the right to petition their government for their grievances as defined in the US Constitution. When the day comes that either side, left or right is unable to do those things, liberty will have vanished in our nation. I fear that day is on the horizon.

For the Nth time. The liberal mainscream media has done everything in its power to unfairly paint the conservative Tea Party movement as violent in an effort to discredit the movement. They have tried to paint it as a radical fringe group when actually, it is a very representative of mainstream America and their positions represent what a majority of the American people want.blackregiment

The generic Tea Party point of view is awesome....

If you want to live in a simplistic agrarian society, where you live on the farm, never go more than 10 miles in any direction, have no education, have no sewer, water, electric, or gas utilities, let alone any other modern conveniences, and die considerably earlier...well than go for it.

The rest of us realize that society is infinitely more complex today; necessitating infinitely more collective involvement/management of issuesvis-a-vis government of one kind or another. Which has nothing to do with overly simplistic esoteric statements/concepts like freedom and liberty.

For example, I don't mind having agencies test my food and medicinesregarding suitability for consumption because it is enhancing my freedom and liberty in the modern world, not restricting it.

over all the so called "Tea Party" seems to have about the over all percentage as the rest of the country but since there is no official organization just a lot of people who show up now and again it is impossible to tell except by checking the towns they come from or looking at photos and you can't trust the newspapers who disagree with them politically and want to insiste they are rascist and all caucasian.

On the other hand I saw them on a local news channel with an African American spokes man and many of those with hime were Asian or African American so at least in that one group it was a broad spectrum in the outfit. I still did not agree with their politics other than one item:

An inherent distrust of politicians:wink:

[QUOTE="Maniacc1"]Of course not. If black men totted AK-47's and semi-automatic machine guns in front of Capitol Hill, people would run in terror. Somehow it's ok for old white men to do it, though. weezyfb

[QUOTE="D_Battery"]

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

I disagree, It is very relevant. the leftist mainstream media has been trying to paint the Tea Party movement as violent, as do many posters in OT, when it is not. It is very relevant to show that this is disingenuous when there are far more examples of leftist acts of violence that any violence by the Tea Party, by far.

If you disagree, show us the videos of the Tea Party violence. Show us the videos of Tea Party Members throwing bottles at the police as was done recently in the AZ immigration law protests.

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/04/27/video-whose-protests-are-more-violent/

blackregiment

I'll give an example of how you are arguing:

Person A - "I don't think the Mets are going to do too well this season. What do you think?"

Person B - "The Yankees are going to do way worse."

While it may appear as though there is a connection between the two statements, the response Person B gave did not actually address Person A's statement in any way. Can you see how Person B's response does not logically follow from Person A's statement? That's essentially how you responded to Theokhoth's post, by bringing in new ideas which appear similar to the issue at hand but are in fact completely unrelated.

For the Nth time. The liberal mainscream media has done everything in its power to unfairly paint the conservative Tea Party movement as violent in an effort to discredit the movement. They have tried to paint it as a radical fringe group when actually, it is a very representative of mainstream America and their positions represent what a majority of the American people want.

"a new CBS/New York Times poll detailing the attitudes of tea party activists, who, it turns out, are more educated than the average American, more reflective of mainstream anxieties than any populist movement in memory and more closely aligned philosophically with the wider electorate than any big-city newsroom in America."

"More significantly, the polling showed that most tea party activists believe the taxes they pay are "fair." The largest number of them want their movement to work to reduce the size of government rather than focus on cutting budget deficits or lowering taxes. Whether you concur or not with this viewpoint, it exhibits more economic sophistication than we often hear from pandering senatorial candidates.

It was news that tea party activists -- unlike our president or most senators -- send their children to public schools. (With a public monopoly in place, where else are they expected to send their children?) The majority of them also deem Social Security and Medicare worthy taxpayer burdens, putting a crimp in the left-wing mythology that the anarchist mob is about to explode.

And though tea party supporters are more conservative than the average voter on social issues, as well -- particularly abortion, according to a separate Gallup Poll -- The New York Times reports that 8 in 10 tea party activists believe the movement should focus on economic issues rather than cultural ones."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/04/16/24-hour_party_people_105193.html

The left's propaganda arm, the liberal mainscream media's coverage of the Tea Party, is slanted to give the impression they are dangerous, which they are not. I simply presented a few of the many, many, many examples of violence and intimidation from the other side of the political spectrum.

I challenge anyone to show an example of the Tea Party members, burning the American flag, throwing rocks and bottles at the police, or destroying property, etc.

I can show you video after video of example of this from leftist protests by comparison, recent protests in AZ being the latest examples.

In light of the reality, based on actual, historical, documented video evidence, that Tea Party rallies are peaceful relative to those from the other side of the political spectrum by comparison, perhaps an appropriate message for the leftist mainscream media that is trying so hard to discredit the Tea Party movement, would be these verses from the Word of God.

Mat 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

or if one prefers that wisdom put into a secular form, people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Perhaps if the mainscream media would cease their efforts to incorrectly portray Tea Party gatherings as violent, then there would be no need to point out the reality of their hypocrisy. Maybe if the mainscream media would start reporting the facts and cease propagandizing, their circulation numbers and Nielsen ratings would stop falling through the floor of those glass houses they occupy.

The Tea Party gatherings are Americans exercising their First Amendment rights of free speech, the right to peaceably assemble, and the right to petition their government for their grievances as defined in the US Constitution. When the day comes that either side, left or right is unable to do those things, liberty will have vanished in our nation. I fear that day is on the horizon.

If you had responded to Theokhoth's post like this, I probably would have left you alone (the parts I've bolded aside, as I'll explain.) This post addresses and counters what Theokhoth said, and is thus consistent with and relevant to the discussion at hand. Now I'm sure there are many people here who would be more than willing to take issue with the content of your argument, but I'm not. I'm only challenging the method of your argumentation, which I'll reiterate one last time.

The bolded parts of your post again bring in points which DON'T MATTER within the context of the original discussion. For the Nth time, saying "these guys did worse stuff" is not relevant to the actions of the party being discussed. For example, if we were talking about the atrocities committed under Stalin's regime, saying "the Nazis did worse stuff!" is not relevant to the discussion because no one was talking about the Nazis. As should be obvious, bringing in a million points about Nazi atrocities will not make it any more relevant to whether or not Stalin committed atrocities. Respones like these serve only to derail the discussion.

To answer your question, the mainstream media has tried to paint the Tea Party movement as violent. I simply provided some links to show that if one compares incidents of alleged violence and intimidation between members of the right and the left, it is not even close.blackregiment

But we weren't comparing. We weren't even talking about "the left", whatever such an ambiguous term is supposed to mean. I don't understand why you brought up the acts of violence committed by a group very much distinct from the one being discussed in this thread. It's a matter of relevance.D_Battery

I disagree, It is very relevant. the leftist mainstream media has been trying to paint the Tea Party movement as violent, as do many posters in OT, when it is not. It is very relevant to show that this is disingenuous when there are far more examples of leftist acts of violence that any violence by the Tea Party, by far.

If you disagree, show us the videos of the Tea Party violence. Show us the videos of Tea Party Members throwing bottles at the police as was done recently in the AZ immigration law protests.

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/04/27/video-whose-protests-are-more-violent/

blackregiment

The actions of the anti-government protesters in Thailand are about as relevant to this discussion as that of this ill-defined "left" to which you keep alluding. D_Battery

Did you watch the video? It was a discussion of the mainscream media's coverage of the Tea Party Rally in Washington as contrasted to their coverage of the immigration rallies in AZ. It was not about Thailand. :shock:

:lol: at "Christian" conservatives, who, if they lived in biblical Egypt, would support the deportation of an illegal immigrant named Jesus back to Jerusalem! :lol:I_Am_Not_Stupid