If the U.S. presidential election were today and held on Gamespot forums...

I will nominate myself and run for president. Everyone who votes for me will not regret it.

[QUOTE="Franklinstein"][QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"] lol. I like your attitude. It's all going to sh*t anyways, might as well enjoy it. :PToxic-Seahorse

I don't think so... not to mention it would also take money away from the Corn/Lumber/Oil/Pharma IndustryFranklinstein

wat

[QUOTE="Franklinstein"]I don't think so... not to mention it would also take money away from the Corn/Lumber/Oil/Pharma Industrycoolbeans90

wat

And, I didn't mention it before, but it would also take away from the alcohol industry because if Marijuana was legal, less people would drink alcohol.Franklinstein

Do you have any evidence support this claim? Marijuana is legal in Holland, but the alcohol consumption here is still one of the highest in Western Europe.

[QUOTE="Franklinstein"]And, I didn't mention it before, but it would also take away from the alcohol industry because if Marijuana was legal, less people would drink alcohol.DraugenCP

Do you have any evidence support this claim? Marijuana is legal in Holland, but the alcohol consumption here is still one of the highest in Western Europe.

[QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

[QUOTE="Franklinstein"]And, I didn't mention it before, but it would also take away from the alcohol industry because if Marijuana was legal, less people would drink alcohol.Franklinstein

Do you have any evidence support this claim? Marijuana is legal in Holland, but the alcohol consumption here is still one of the highest in Western Europe.

So basically nothing.

It deeply scares me to see that Barrack Obama is winning this.

MikeMoose

no one would vote every one would just troll, show naked pictures...etc

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="Franklinstein"]I don't think so... not to mention it would also take money away from the Corn/Lumber/Oil/Pharma IndustryFranklinstein

wat

It would take money from the Lumber Industry because Hemp can be used to make paper, rope, and clothing, using less acres, time, water, energy, and money than lumber.

It would take away from the Oil Industry for the same reason as the Corn industry, but it can also be used to make plastics and other oil by products.

It would take money from the Pharmaceutical industry because Marijuana is a miracle drug, it cures more symptoms than any other drug I've ever heard of (other than maybe Penicillin)

And, I didn't mention it before, but it would also take away from the alcohol industry because if Marijuana was legal, less people would drink alcohol.

Ethanol wouldn't exist w/o gov't subsidies. Biofuels, period, aren't profitable ATM, so it's a non-issue for oil. And the Pharmaceutical industry would own MJ if legalized, as would the lumber industry, hemp.

Christ, read before you post.

[QUOTE="Franklinstein"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

wat

coolbeans90

It would take money from the Lumber Industry because Hemp can be used to make paper, rope, and clothing, using less acres, time, water, energy, and money than lumber.

It would take away from the Oil Industry for the same reason as the Corn industry, but it can also be used to make plastics and other oil by products.

It would take money from the Pharmaceutical industry because Marijuana is a miracle drug, it cures more symptoms than any other drug I've ever heard of (other than maybe Penicillin)

And, I didn't mention it before, but it would also take away from the alcohol industry because if Marijuana was legal, less people would drink alcohol.

Ethanol wouldn't exist w/o gov't subsidies. Biofuels, period, aren't profitable ATM, so it's a non-issue for oil. And the Pharmaceutical industry would own MJ if legalized, as would the lumber industry, hemp.

Christ, read before you post.

I would go watch a movie and not post similar to how I'm going to watch a movie and not vote. We are all screwed regardless of who wins, nothing will change in the immediate future except new promises and aspirations from a political figurehead that will never come to fruition. Your voting "rites" are just cleverly disguised tools to keep you in check and living under the false assumption that you have some fractal bit of control in this country ( hint: you don't ).

Ron Paul. He wants everyone under the age of 25 to be allowed to opt out of Social Security. He would end the wars. He wants to legalize drugs. He wants to make it easier for people who are down on their luck to make some money (AKA de-regulate).

Unfortunately a president could only do so much. Many of the attacks on economic freedom actually come from the state and local levels, and those are often the most burdensome. Even if he vote to do away with many or most federal government business regulations there would still be so many at the state and local level that it might not help too much. Fortunately, this would allow for different states and cities to have different laws and regulations and there would hopefully be one that offers what everone wants.

I'd totally vote Obama, he reminds me of myself. I even have some people calling me "Palestinian Obama" lolGazaAli

I'm done voting for the lessor of two evils.

Ron Paul. He wants everyone under the age of 25 to be allowed to opt out of Social Security. He would end the wars. He wants to legalize drugs. He wants to make it easier for people who are down on their luck to make some money (AKA de-regulate).

Unfortunately a president could only do so much. Many of the attacks on economic freedom actually come from the state and local levels, and those are often the most burdensome. Even if he vote to do away with many or most federal government business regulations there would still be so many at the state and local level that it might not help too much. Fortunately, this would allow for different states and cities to have different laws and regulations and there would hopefully be one that offers what everone wants.

hoola

This is why I could never vote for anyone who will make state's right an important issue, or the important issue. State and local regulation is so fractured, so varied, that you wouldn't be able to go from town to town without seeing drastic differences. People would escape states that would put strict limits on things like contraception and abortion. Trading between the state would be more difficult because the statutes would have to be navigated.

Streamlining and simplying government regulation is a great goal, but deemphasizing the government too much just opens up a Pandora's box of problems.

[QUOTE="hoola"]

Ron Paul. He wants everyone under the age of 25 to be allowed to opt out of Social Security. He would end the wars. He wants to legalize drugs. He wants to make it easier for people who are down on their luck to make some money (AKA de-regulate).

Unfortunately a president could only do so much. Many of the attacks on economic freedom actually come from the state and local levels, and those are often the most burdensome. Even if he vote to do away with many or most federal government business regulations there would still be so many at the state and local level that it might not help too much. Fortunately, this would allow for different states and cities to have different laws and regulations and there would hopefully be one that offers what everone wants.

kabphillie

This is why I could never vote for anyone who will make state's right an important issue, or the important issue. State and local regulation is so fractured, so varied, that you wouldn't be able to go from town to town without seeing drastic differences. People would escape states that would put strict limits on things like contraception and abortion. Trading between the state would be more difficult because the statutes would have to be navigated.

Streamlining and simplying government regulation is a great goal, but deemphasizing the government too much just opens up a Pandora's box of problems.

I would trade a streamlined system for economic freedom. With the federal government out of the way, states would/will compete for business, not the other way around. Take Delaware (IIRC) for instance. They have a very large amount of corporations that are incorporated there because of their lax incorporation laws. And that is the point. Having choice. In your contraception example that is a good choice, something that someone can appreciate if they are going to take advantage of it. When it comes to the economy you seem to think it would be chaos, but it already is. Every state has different income and sales tax rates, not to mention probably hundreds of other minor taxes that companies already have to deal with, along with hundreds of different regulations. Not much would change in terms of doing business across multiple states if Ron Paul was elected. But hopefully every state, or atleast some, would reduce their amount of business regulations to help the poor and to atract business and tax revenue.

My main point was that, even if Ron did get elected, we would still have to deal with the states stealing economic freedom.

I'm done voting for the lessor of two evils.

Shenmue_Jehuty

The results make me sad.

anyway, VERMIN SUPREME 2012!

The results make me sad.

anyway, VERMIN SUPREME 2012!

Bzilla56

Romney.

[QUOTE="Bzilla56"]

The results make me sad.

anyway, VERMIN SUPREME 2012!

Franklinstein

Good point.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="Franklinstein"] It would take money from the Corn industry because Hemp Oil can be used to make ethanol using less water, time, energy, and money than corn.

It would take money from the Lumber Industry because Hemp can be used to make paper, rope, and clothing, using less acres, time, water, energy, and money than lumber.

It would take away from the Oil Industry for the same reason as the Corn industry, but it can also be used to make plastics and other oil by products.

It would take money from the Pharmaceutical industry because Marijuana is a miracle drug, it cures more symptoms than any other drug I've ever heard of (other than maybe Penicillin)

And, I didn't mention it before, but it would also take away from the alcohol industry because if Marijuana was legal, less people would drink alcohol.Franklinstein

Ethanol wouldn't exist w/o gov't subsidies. Biofuels, period, aren't profitable ATM, so it's a non-issue for oil. And the Pharmaceutical industry would own MJ if legalized, as would the lumber industry, hemp.

Christ, read before you post.

You are an idiot. About the same number of people who grow their own vegetables, or tobacco for that matter, would grow weed. It would be a hobby for enthusiasts, and otherwise the production would be industrialized like everything else in the god damned consumer market. As far as painkillers go, the sh!t can be medically prescribed and you can bet your a$$ off that the pharmaceuticals would take a hold of it. As far as they are concerned, it's simply another drug they can make money off of. And the fact that hemp uses more fuel than it gains has nothing to do with anything whatsoever. On an industrial scale, it cannot compete w/ oil in terms of cost. I understand and agree with the idea that weed should be legal, but let's get our heads out of our asses, please.

You are an idiot.

coolbeans90

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

You are an idiot.

Franklinstein

Says the guy who thinks hemp would replace oil, not be used by pharmaceutical industry for a buck, would replace the timber industry, would be home grown rather than mass produced, unlike everything else people could do at home.

Post smarter, not harder.