Am I the only southern tired of the redneck stereotype we get?
Ragnarok1051
Nope. I rather despise it, seeing as I hate redneck culture.
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[QUOTE="muffincakes87"]
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Another Confederate uprising =/= bringing back slavery.:|
chessmaster1989
Part of the uprising could still have to do with racial issue.
TC never proclaimed what the uprising was about. This is all hypothetical. So Confederate could equal bring back slavery. Since this is all hypothetical it could be about anything.
Well, when you put it that way, the primary issue of the Civil War was states' rights >_>.
States rights.
Which included slavery. The backbone of the South back then.
im right there with youAm I the only southerner tired of the redneck stereotype we get?
Ragnarok1051
[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]
[QUOTE="muffincakes87"]
Part of the uprising could still have to do with racial issue.
TC never proclaimed what the uprising was about. This is all hypothetical. So Confederate could equal bring back slavery. Since this is all hypothetical it could be about anything.
muffincakes87
Well, when you put it that way, the primary issue of the Civil War was states' rights >_>.
States rights.
Which included slavery. The backbone of the South back then.
Yar, there is too much cleansing of the almighty southern cause. "oh it was states rights!". It was about states rights... so they could maintain slavery. Oh and if you owned enough slaves, you didn't have to fight (how nice...).States rights.
Which included slavery. The backbone of the South back then.
muffincakes87
"Back then" being the key phrase.... Not all southerners are for black slavery.I've been to the south, and I know I've not met all southern U.S people... but a lot I DID meet were not for black slavery...
[QUOTE="muffincakes87"]
States rights.
Which included slavery. The backbone of the South back then.
-Misanthropic-
"Back then" being the key phrase.... Not all southerners are for black slavery.I've been to the south, and I know I've not met all southern U.S people... but a lot I DID meet were not for black slavery...
TC ask a hypothtical question saying the confederacy would rise again. He did not address why so I assumed for the same reason they did last time. State rights which included slavery.
I lived in the South for almost all my life. To say there is still no racial tension around here is ridculous. At least not as much as the North.
TC ask a hypothtical question saying the confederacy would rise again. He did not address why so I assumed for the same reason they did last time. State rights which included slavery.
I lived in the South for almost all my life. To say there is still no racial tension around here is ridculous. At least not as much as the North.
muffincakes87
Well, you should assume for the times of today.Times change.I also never said there was no racial tension in the south, please point out where I said that.There is not as much as the whole "southerner" stereotype tries to point out.
[QUOTE="muffincakes87"]
TC ask a hypothtical question saying the confederacy would rise again. He did not address why so I assumed for the same reason they did last time. State rights which included slavery.
I lived in the South for almost all my life. To say there is still no racial tension around here is ridculous. At least not as much as the North.
-Misanthropic-
Well, you should assume for the times of today.Times change.I also never said there was no racial tension in the south, please point out where I said that.There is not as much as the whole "southerner" stereotype tries to point out.
Times change yet you say the is still racial tension in the south. So by agreeing with me there is still racial tension in the south, it isn't crazy for me to assume the hypothical confedreate uprsing would about race.
[QUOTE="-_Rain_-"]
[QUOTE="Raikoh_"]
I'm going to fight for the side that would probably win. Which would be the Union. The south is just filled with ****ing idiots.
Raikoh_
You don't say? Why do you think that?
You'd be amazed at all the lazy, annoying red necks I deal with in Georgia. The farther away you get from Atlanta or any other kind of upper class city, the dumber they get.
That's why you should move to Canada.[QUOTE="-Misanthropic-"]
[QUOTE="muffincakes87"]
TC ask a hypothtical question saying the confederacy would rise again. He did not address why so I assumed for the same reason they did last time. State rights which included slavery.
I lived in the South for almost all my life. To say there is still no racial tension around here is ridculous. At least not as much as the North.
muffincakes87
Well, you should assume for the times of today.Times change.I also never said there was no racial tension in the south, please point out where I said that.There is not as much as the whole "southerner" stereotype tries to point out.
Times change yet you say the is still racial tension in the south. So by agreeing with me there is still racial tension in the south it isn't crazy for me to assume the hypothical confedreate uprsing would about race.
Yes times have changed.So look back to my original post saying that not all southerners are pro-slavery.Racial Tension =/= Pro Slavery.
[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]
Am I the only southern tired of the redneck stereotype we get?
-_Rain_-
Nope. I rather despise it, seeing as I hate redneck culture.
You act like the south is 100% redneck.[QUOTE="muffincakes87"]
[QUOTE="-Misanthropic-"]
Well, you should assume for the times of today.Times change.I also never said there was no racial tension in the south, please point out where I said that.There is not as much as the whole "southerner" stereotype tries to point out.
-Misanthropic-
Times change yet you say the is still racial tension in the south. So by agreeing with me there is still racial tension in the south it isn't crazy for me to assume the hypothical confedreate uprsing would about race.
Yes times have changed.So look back to my original post saying that not all southerners are pro-slavery.Racial Tension =/= Pro Slavery.
Not all southerners are pro-slavery, but the whole reason there is still racial tension in the south was because of slavery. Seeing the root of racial tension is because of slavery, it isn't crazy for me to think in a hypothical conferdrate uprsing would be about race.
Not all southerners are pro-slavery, but the whole reason there is still racial tension in the south was because of slavery. Seeing the root of racial tension is because of slavery, it isn't crazy for me to think in a hypothical conferdrate uprsing would be about race.
muffincakes87
There is racial tension all over America... wherever you go.There was racial tension in Chicago in the 60's... and in other Union states.So in the case of a Union uprising, is it crazy for that to be over race reasons?
why is this thread just about the south what would you do if there was an uprising in the north? XD4NTESINF3RNOXGet homosexually married.
[QUOTE="muffincakes87"]
Not all southerners are pro-slavery, but the whole reason there is still racial tension in the south was because of slavery. Seeing the root of racial tension is because of slavery, it isn't crazy for me to think in a hypothical conferdrate uprsing would be about race.
-Misanthropic-
There is racial tension all over America... wherever you go.There was racial tension in Chicago in the 60's... and in other Union states.So in the case of a Union uprising, is it crazy for that to be over race reasons?
The racial tension Chicago is other places during the 60's was not as heavy as the south before and during the civil war. Also I can imagine that racial tension in Chicago is much less tense then it is in the south in today's terms. Also during the 60's racial tension in the south was at it's highest ever since the civil war.
I still don't get how why you are still arguing though. I made my point on why I assumed the south hypotheical uprising would be about race and I made point on how I thought that way, which it all makes sense to me. This argument doesn't need to go any further...
The racial tension Chicago is other places during the 60's was not as heavy as the south before and during the civil war. Also I can imagine that racial tension in Chicago is much less tense then it is in the south in today's terms. Also during the 60's racial tension in the south was at it's highest ever since the civil war.
I still don't get how why you are still arguing though. I made my point on why I assumed the south hypotheical uprising would be about race and I made point on how I thought that way, which it all makes sense to me. This argument doesn't need to go any further...
muffincakes87
It was actually just as heavy in Chicago... when black people uprised in Illinois, the racial discrimination of the police at the time in Chicago was pretty bad.It was just as bad as the uprising in Alabama at the time.There was racial tension in the U.S army during the Vietnam war.Can you prove that it was all because of Confederate/Union allegiences? Racial tension can be everywhere..
Assuming that the southern uprising would be about race is actually a generalization in itself.
I'd support Union. The South has been pretty backwards since they got their arses handed to them the first time around, so they'd most definately lose a second war.
[QUOTE="-_Rain_-"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]
Am I the only southern tired of the redneck stereotype we get?
Ragnarok1051
Nope. I rather despise it, seeing as I hate redneck culture.
You act like the south is 100% redneck.I live in Florida. I said, "I hate redneck culture," not "The South is 100% redneck."
Why don't you talk to the other guy? The one who pretty much said, "the South is 100% redneck"?
[QUOTE="Bigg_Boi"]
I'm Canadian, but I'd probably cross the border and fight for the Confederacy if I had the chance. I've never liked those annoying Yankees, not to mention the South has a definite advantage this time around. A great deal of the US's military bases and infrastructure is in the South, not to mention southerners are much more "warlike" then the generally left-leaning, college kid North. While I can see the International Community supporting the Union, the fact of the matter is is that the Confederacy would win hands down.
Put simply, who do you think would win: A rich college kid from the North who has never seen let alone fired a rifle, or a Southerner who grew up hunting in the backwoods.
modestkraut1291
Its funny how ignorant rednecks think everyone who goes to college is a rich brat. Of course you would blame money for you not being accepted into college. Maybe you aint gots no learnin?
I don't think that's what he's getting at, I think he means that fewer people from the north actually would fight and know how to shoot well.[QUOTE="modestkraut1291"][QUOTE="Bigg_Boi"]
I'm Canadian, but I'd probably cross the border and fight for the Confederacy if I had the chance. I've never liked those annoying Yankees, not to mention the South has a definite advantage this time around. A great deal of the US's military bases and infrastructure is in the South, not to mention southerners are much more "warlike" then the generally left-leaning, college kid North. While I can see the International Community supporting the Union, the fact of the matter is is that the Confederacy would win hands down.
Put simply, who do you think would win: A rich college kid from the North who has never seen let alone fired a rifle, or a Southerner who grew up hunting in the backwoods.
ChampionoChumps
Its funny how ignorant rednecks think everyone who goes to college is a rich brat. Of course you would blame money for you not being accepted into college. Maybe you aint gots no learnin?
I don't think that's what he's getting at, I think he means that fewer people from the north actually would fight and know how to shoot well.Precisely, and it is ignorance to believe otherwise. No matter what you say, it is absolutely clear that northerner's are just generally less inclined to know how to shoot firearms or survive in the wilderness.
Actually, I could see this happening, but it wouldn't be confined to the old antebellum south. Thomas Jefferson often worried that a Federal Government would become too powerful, and State governments would just get smacked around by it.
Homeland Security anyone? Just something forall Yanks and Rebs to consider.
Actually, I could see this happening, but it wouldn't be confined to the old antebellum south. Thomas Jefferson often worried that a Federal Government would become too powerful, and State governments would just get smacked around by it.
Homeland Security anyone? Just something forall Yanks and Rebs to consider.
matenmoe
That is a scary thought. Just imagine an American Civil War with no boundries and today's technology. Instead of it being North vs, South it would be random states littered throughout the country.
[QUOTE="matenmoe"]
Actually, I could see this happening, but it wouldn't be confined to the old antebellum south. Thomas Jefferson often worried that a Federal Government would become too powerful, and State governments would just get smacked around by it.
Homeland Security anyone? Just something forall Yanks and Rebs to consider.
stupid4
That is a scary thought. Just imagine an American Civil War with no boundries and today's technology. Instead of it being North vs, South it would be random states littered throughout the country.
Sorry-was busy digging my fallout shelter! As long as we keep on our toes, it probably won't happen. shovel dig dig shovel....[QUOTE="matenmoe"]
Actually, I could see this happening, but it wouldn't be confined to the old antebellum south. Thomas Jefferson often worried that a Federal Government would become too powerful, and State governments would just get smacked around by it.
Homeland Security anyone? Just something forall Yanks and Rebs to consider.
stupid4
That is a scary thought. Just imagine an American Civil War with no boundries and today's technology. Instead of it being North vs, South it would be random states littered throughout the country.
I know can't believe what they all think the south is like today, and yeah if a second war really happened I think it would probally be teh middle sates agasint the two coasts. Maybe the coasts on their own sides making it a 3-way
I'm not American, but I would fight for the Confederacy if Texas is included in it, otherwise Union or maybe nothing since I'm not American. PS(Question): During the Civil War, which side did the midwest fight for? th3warr1or
the midwest was territories and open land basically. the Midwest didn't really exist
Heres a map of the US back then, the labels for the colors are below the map.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_US_Sucession_map_1861.svg
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