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[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"][QUOTE="lightleggy"] not natural is not equal to something impossible... for example robots are not born out of plants...that turns them on something outside of nature but not impossible to create. genetically engineering persons wouldn't be natural because the only way to achieve those "abilities" was through genetical engineering and not by simple being born with it...for example no human has been born with the ability to see in darkness and I doubt that it will happen someday unless someone engineers the fetus. so GE is not part of nature...its something which is MAN MADElightleggyNo, you're starting to use word play that doesn't necessarily fit together in that sense. Let's not do that. Anything that happens is of nature. The physical world is all apart of itself. You cannot distinguish a difference between natural and unnatural. If a biological entity creates a robot that robot then is is also linked back to the physical world, or of nature since it was created by a natural entity. I don't' see how you could severe that connection. How do you separate the difference? Where does the robot become unnatural because it was made by man? If man is of nature and creates something, then that too is of nature. That is how I'm using the word. I'm not using it any other way. SO, considering this, how is genetic engineering against the concept of nature? A rock is of nature, whether it's man made or made by the eternal forces of the earth, such as a volcano. To me there is no difference, and those who try to separate this difference are grasping at reality. differents points of view...while you consider that everything in this world can be called "natural" I dont, because I will only call it natural if that thing can or could be created without the help of men What you're talking about is better defined as anthropogenic. Which is still apart of nature since we ourselves are of nature.
differents points of view...while you consider that everything in this world can be called "natural" I dont, because I will only call it natural if that thing can or could be created without the help of men What you're talking about is better defined as anthropogenic. Which is still apart of nature since we ourselves are of nature. its all a matter of opinion dude...just like the people who think that virus are living beings and then they argue with the ones who think that they are not....[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"] No, you're starting to use word play that doesn't necessarily fit together in that sense. Let's not do that. Anything that happens is of nature. The physical world is all apart of itself. You cannot distinguish a difference between natural and unnatural. If a biological entity creates a robot that robot then is is also linked back to the physical world, or of nature since it was created by a natural entity. I don't' see how you could severe that connection. How do you separate the difference? Where does the robot become unnatural because it was made by man? If man is of nature and creates something, then that too is of nature. That is how I'm using the word. I'm not using it any other way. SO, considering this, how is genetic engineering against the concept of nature? A rock is of nature, whether it's man made or made by the eternal forces of the earth, such as a volcano. To me there is no difference, and those who try to separate this difference are grasping at reality.EMOEVOLUTION
[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]What you're talking about is better defined as anthropogenic. Which is still apart of nature since we ourselves are of nature. its all a matter of opinion dude...just like the people who think that virus are living beings and then they argue with the ones who think that they are not.... You can have your opinion. But it doesn't change reality. :)[QUOTE="lightleggy"] differents points of view...while you consider that everything in this world can be called "natural" I dont, because I will only call it natural if that thing can or could be created without the help of menlightleggy
and to be fair this is my opinion.
.unnatural is not a good choice of words. I offered you a better suggestion to express yourself appropriately, and entails what you desire to say better than saying unnatural. If you agree with that assessment or not, is entirely up to you. But, that won't stop me from offering.
[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]What you're talking about is better defined as anthropogenic. Which is still apart of nature since we ourselves are of nature. its all a matter of opinion dude...just like the people who think that virus are living beings and then they argue with the ones who think that they are not....[QUOTE="lightleggy"] differents points of view...while you consider that everything in this world can be called "natural" I dont, because I will only call it natural if that thing can or could be created without the help of menlightleggy
Well they aren't...
so, is t his supposed to be simply one person, or the new breed of human?Baconbits2004a new breed of humans.
I wouldn't fiddle with such things. Read Franken Fran to understand why I feel that way.DeihjanFrankenstein? That's because he was a bunch of corpses stuck together, you'd be pissed off too.
[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"]so, is t his supposed to be simply one person, or the new breed of human?EMOEVOLUTIONa new breed of humans. *crosses out super strength and speed* O.o I read an article on Yahoo recently, about a man whose brain worked differently than the average brain, in that he is able to remember just about everything he reads... he can learn a new language in roughly a week, and was able to recite 20,000 characters in order, after just reading the them once. I would give these humans a brain like his. the ability to breath underwater The ability to break down just about anything for energy (like, live simply on water, if needed) With the ability to remember everything so easily, there would be much less schooling required. Imagine people being able to graduate from highschool by the time they're ten, and have whatever special training they want by the time they're a teenager. A person would be able to travel just about anywhere by learning languages so easily, and we'd make much less of an impact on the environment if we could live on things like water.
[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"][QUOTE="Baconbits2004"]so, is t his supposed to be simply one person, or the new breed of human?Baconbits2004a new breed of humans. *crosses out super strength and speed* O.o I read an article on Yahoo recently, about a man whose brain worked differently than the average brain, in that he is able to remember just about everything he reads... he can learn a new language in roughly a week, and was able to recite 20,000 characters in order, after just reading the them once. I would give these humans a brain like his. the ability to breath underwater The ability to break down just about anything for energy (like, live simply on water, if needed) With the ability to remember everything so easily, there would be much less schooling required. Imagine people being able to graduate from highschool by the time they're ten, and have whatever special training they want by the time they're a teenager. A person would be able to travel just about anywhere by learning languages so easily, and we'd make much less of an impact on the environment if we could live on things like water. Calling Pizza Hut : I would like to order a watter pizza, make it extra moist please :P Maybe he had photographic memory :P ?
Only if you assume we're separate from everything. But we not we are but one piece of everything. Our significance may be an extremely small fraction, but it is still relevant. If you think it's not, then you can continue to loath your existence and see no purpose for it. But I reject this interpretation of reality. There is a purpose, and it's not for our will to conqueer or interpret. This very moment is purposeful. Cause and effect, matter.
EMOEVOLUTION
I couldn't agree with this more
My concept of an ideal transhuman:
The whole body is a mass of self-replicating nanobots, there are no seperate organs.
Theoretically limitless strength.
Theoretically limitless knowledge.
Uses a self contained power supply within nanobot "cells".
Does not require oxygen, water, or food.
Can change appearance at will.
Technical immortality.
Uses a wireless network of nanobots it produces in the atmosphere to know all things on a planet and know all thoughts and languages of people.
Can also use network to communicate with beings.
Can materialize anything through use of nanobots.
Can dissipate and reform elsewhere, with the use of the network.
That's all I can think of for now.
[QUOTE="Teenaged"]
It's not about people being technical about their own responses but people jumping on the TC for not being very technical.
Barbariser
Which I half did.
That said, I'm going to have a good sleep now since I don't want to wake up tomorrow and go to school like a overworked drunken elephant or something. So, enjoy your thoughts about the footlong.
Well that still causes some differentiation.Anyway, I would be nit-picking if I started analysing why I referred to them but not you.
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