If you died today, where would you go?

Sorry I am not a coward that will accept a being that has failed mankind through out time.. Who has basically screwed over billions of people from getting into heaven because of the religion not existing in the time they lived or was unreachable from where they were born.. Or was born with defects making them incapable of understanding the belief, or died before they could fully realize it.. Why should I accept a being that threatens to punish me to eternity of torture if they do not accept them? That is no freedom of choice that is like me holding a gun to a person head.. They have a choice to make but there life will end if they choose the wrong one..

In the end I call any one a coward who falls for these cheap tactics.. Because I would rather go to hell with my dignitity, ethics, and ideals unbended to a brutal dictator then be a coward accepting everything that is force fed down my throat with no questions what so ever to the numerous flaws of their rule.

i'm sorry to say this, but if you go to hell, maybe you'll remember what i said today and wish that you had listened. Besides, I'm helping you guys out big time!! I'm telling you about the free gift of eternal life, and you're not just rejecting it, but you're rejecting God because you love sinning because it's easy.huladog123

I rather serve the devil than your god, I sin because I am who I am, anyways I am an atheist so who gives a damn!:D

Sorry I am not a coward that will accept a being that has failed mankind through out time.. Who has basically screwed over billions of people from getting into heaven because of the religion not existing in the time they lived or was unreachable from where they were born.. Or was born with defects making them incapable of understanding the belief, or died before they could fully realize it.. Why should I accept a being that threatens to punish me to eternity of torture if they do not accept them? That is no freedom of choice that is like me holding a gun to a person head.. They have a choice to make but there life will end if they choose the wrong one..

In the end I call any one a coward who falls for these cheap tactics.. Because I would rather go to hell with my dignitity, ethics, and ideals unbended to a brutal dictator then be a coward accepting everything that is force fed down my throat with no questions what so ever to the numerous flaws of their rule.

sSubZerOo

so you choose hell

Sorry I am not a coward that will accept a being that has failed mankind through out time.. Who has basically screwed over billions of people from getting into heaven because of the religion not existing in the time they lived or was unreachable from where they were born.. Or was born with defects making them incapable of understanding the belief, or died before they could fully realize it.. Why should I accept a being that threatens to punish me to eternity of torture if they do not accept them? That is no freedom of choice that is like me holding a gun to a person head.. They have a choice to make but there life will end if they choose the wrong one..

In the end I call any one a coward who falls for these cheap tactics.. Because I would rather go to hell with my dignitity, ethics, and ideals unbended to a brutal dictator then be a coward accepting everything that is force fed down my throat with no questions what so ever to the numerous flaws of their rule.

sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="huladog123"]i'm sorry to say this, but if you go to hell, maybe you'll remember what i said today and wish that you had listened. Besides, I'm helping you guys out big time!! I'm telling you about the free gift of eternal life, and you're not just rejecting it, but you're rejecting God because you love sinning because it's easy.tzar3

I rather serve the devil than your god, I sin because I am who I am, anyways I am an atheist so who gives a damn!:D

i'm sorry to say this, but if you go to hell, maybe you'll remember what i said today and wish that you had listened. Besides, I'm helping you guys out big time!! I'm telling you about the free gift of eternal life, and you're not just rejecting it, but you're rejecting God because you love sinning because it's easy.huladog123

In the end I call any one a coward who falls for these cheap tactics.. Because I would rather go to hell with my dignitity, ethics, and ideals unbended to a brutal dictator then be a coward accepting everything that is force fed down my throat with no questions what so ever to the numerous flaws of their rule.

sSubZerOo

I'ld have to agree, anyway i'ld just say go the karma route it's much better and simply invovlves doing good also you can see a affect quite quickly and it makes sence, like for example you help someone out when they're down then you might bacome friends or they'll help you out, just easyer to get your head round than heaven and hell.

Would'nt you just end up getting used to hell in the end anyway.

The ground.

Simple question, what if islam is the correct religion? Christians go to hell.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Sorry I am not a coward that will accept a being that has failed mankind through out time.. Who has basically screwed over billions of people from getting into heaven because of the religion not existing in the time they lived or was unreachable from where they were born.. Or was born with defects making them incapable of understanding the belief, or died before they could fully realize it.. Why should I accept a being that threatens to punish me to eternity of torture if they do not accept them? That is no freedom of choice that is like me holding a gun to a person head.. They have a choice to make but there life will end if they choose the wrong one..

In the end I call any one a coward who falls for these cheap tactics.. Because I would rather go to hell with my dignitity, ethics, and ideals unbended to a brutal dictator then be a coward accepting everything that is force fed down my throat with no questions what so ever to the numerous flaws of their rule.

huladog123

Clealry the Billions of people are starving in the world because its THEIR fault.. Clearly the millions of people suffering from diease and natural dieasters are THEIR fault.. Clearly the millions dieing every year at a young age due to birth defects or are born with terrible dieases or syndromes is THEIR fault.. I am sorry but only a brutal dictator would think this way, some one so arrogant on many levels believing that these people are suffering due to their own faults when they have no way in their own power to avoid it..

Or how bout the fact all those people who went to hell because they had the "bad Luck" of being born in a time where Christanity simply did not exist.. I would tend to think thats GODS fault rather then the peoples fault.

[QUOTE="huladog123"]i'm sorry to say this, but if you go to hell, maybe you'll remember what i said today and wish that you had listened. Besides, I'm helping you guys out big time!! I'm telling you about the free gift of eternal life, and you're not just rejecting it, but you're rejecting God because you love sinning because it's easy.ShuLordLiuPei

god forgivesall sins....than why is there a hell ? a person can commite murder trhoughout his life and turn to god before he dies is this is true why does a hell exist ?

i read this somewhere but i forgot where :(

[QUOTE="tzar3"]

[QUOTE="huladog123"]i'm sorry to say this, but if you go to hell, maybe you'll remember what i said today and wish that you had listened. Besides, I'm helping you guys out big time!! I'm telling you about the free gift of eternal life, and you're not just rejecting it, but you're rejecting God because you love sinning because it's easy.huladog123

I rather serve the devil than your god, I sin because I am who I am, anyways I am an atheist so who gives a damn!:D

Oh **** heaven, its better to reign in hell than to reign in heaven. Besides, you believe this crap, not me. I dont cry my problems to god, I fix them on my own.

[QUOTE="ShuLordLiuPei"][QUOTE="huladog123"]i'm sorry to say this, but if you go to hell, maybe you'll remember what i said today and wish that you had listened. Besides, I'm helping you guys out big time!! I'm telling you about the free gift of eternal life, and you're not just rejecting it, but you're rejecting God because you love sinning because it's easy.huladog123

[QUOTE="ShuLordLiuPei"][QUOTE="huladog123"]i'm sorry to say this, but if you go to hell, maybe you'll remember what i said today and wish that you had listened. Besides, I'm helping you guys out big time!! I'm telling you about the free gift of eternal life, and you're not just rejecting it, but you're rejecting God because you love sinning because it's easy.huladog123

If some one held a gun to your head and was going to kill you, I doubt no matter what prayers you say they will not work.. INfact there have been science experiements where they have collected data showing that prayer infact does not work.. If prayer worked 54% of the worlds population wouldn't be in poverty.

just remembered somthing form a comody i heard before but eddie izzard had a good point, in religious theory humans were created a couple of days after other animals so what about the dinosaurs they existed millions of years before humans which sort of meses up christian theroy.

Why don't we just have a laugh, get a long and hope for the best at least then if you go to hell you can say you had a good life and look back on the good old days.

[QUOTE="huladog123"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Sorry I am not a coward that will accept a being that has failed mankind through out time.. Who has basically screwed over billions of people from getting into heaven because of the religion not existing in the time they lived or was unreachable from where they were born.. Or was born with defects making them incapable of understanding the belief, or died before they could fully realize it.. Why should I accept a being that threatens to punish me to eternity of torture if they do not accept them? That is no freedom of choice that is like me holding a gun to a person head.. They have a choice to make but there life will end if they choose the wrong one..

In the end I call any one a coward who falls for these cheap tactics.. Because I would rather go to hell with my dignitity, ethics, and ideals unbended to a brutal dictator then be a coward accepting everything that is force fed down my throat with no questions what so ever to the numerous flaws of their rule.

sSubZerOo

Clealry the Billions of people are starving in the world because its THEIR fault.. Clearly the millions of people suffering from diease and natural dieasters are THEIR fault.. Clearly the millions dieing every year at a young age due to birth defects or are born with terrible dieases or syndromes is THEIR fault.. I am sorry but only a brutal dictator would think this way, some one so arrogant on many levels believing that these people are suffering due to their own faults when they have no way in their own power to avoid it..

Or how bout the fact all those people who went to hell because they had the "bad Luck" of being born in a time where Christanity simply did not exist.. I would tend to think thats GODS fault rather then the peoples fault.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I am proud to present:

Why Religion Thread Always Fail.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="huladog123"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Sorry I am not a coward that will accept a being that has failed mankind through out time.. Who has basically screwed over billions of people from getting into heaven because of the religion not existing in the time they lived or was unreachable from where they were born.. Or was born with defects making them incapable of understanding the belief, or died before they could fully realize it.. Why should I accept a being that threatens to punish me to eternity of torture if they do not accept them? That is no freedom of choice that is like me holding a gun to a person head.. They have a choice to make but there life will end if they choose the wrong one..

In the end I call any one a coward who falls for these cheap tactics.. Because I would rather go to hell with my dignitity, ethics, and ideals unbended to a brutal dictator then be a coward accepting everything that is force fed down my throat with no questions what so ever to the numerous flaws of their rule.

huladog123

Clealry the Billions of people are starving in the world because its THEIR fault.. Clearly the millions of people suffering from diease and natural dieasters are THEIR fault.. Clearly the millions dieing every year at a young age due to birth defects or are born with terrible dieases or syndromes is THEIR fault.. I am sorry but only a brutal dictator would think this way, some one so arrogant on many levels believing that these people are suffering due to their own faults when they have no way in their own power to avoid it..

Or how bout the fact all those people who went to hell because they had the "bad Luck" of being born in a time where Christanity simply did not exist.. I would tend to think thats GODS fault rather then the peoples fault.

If you do think he is just, then you must also accept we are mere creations of probability.. If he infact created us then caused us to be on uneven playing fields, then he is unjust.. There is no way around it.

And its EASY for you to say it because your belly is full, your in a heated and air conditioned home infront of your computer.

just remembered somthing form a comody i heard before but eddie izzard had a good point, in religious theory humans were created a couple of days after other animals so what about the dinosaurs they existed millions of years before humans which sort of meses up christian theroy.

Why don't we just have a laugh, get a long and hope for the best at least then if you go to hell you can say you had a good life and look back on the good old days.

markop2003

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="huladog123"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Sorry I am not a coward that will accept a being that has failed mankind through out time.. Who has basically screwed over billions of people from getting into heaven because of the religion not existing in the time they lived or was unreachable from where they were born.. Or was born with defects making them incapable of understanding the belief, or died before they could fully realize it.. Why should I accept a being that threatens to punish me to eternity of torture if they do not accept them? That is no freedom of choice that is like me holding a gun to a person head.. They have a choice to make but there life will end if they choose the wrong one..

In the end I call any one a coward who falls for these cheap tactics.. Because I would rather go to hell with my dignitity, ethics, and ideals unbended to a brutal dictator then be a coward accepting everything that is force fed down my throat with no questions what so ever to the numerous flaws of their rule.

huladog123

Clealry the Billions of people are starving in the world because its THEIR fault.. Clearly the millions of people suffering from diease and natural dieasters are THEIR fault.. Clearly the millions dieing every year at a young age due to birth defects or are born with terrible dieases or syndromes is THEIR fault.. I am sorry but only a brutal dictator would think this way, some one so arrogant on many levels believing that these people are suffering due to their own faults when they have no way in their own power to avoid it..

Or how bout the fact all those people who went to hell because they had the "bad Luck" of being born in a time where Christanity simply did not exist.. I would tend to think thats GODS fault rather then the peoples fault.

We would all belive that as soon as our **** turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="huladog123"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Sorry I am not a coward that will accept a being that has failed mankind through out time.. Who has basically screwed over billions of people from getting into heaven because of the religion not existing in the time they lived or was unreachable from where they were born.. Or was born with defects making them incapable of understanding the belief, or died before they could fully realize it.. Why should I accept a being that threatens to punish me to eternity of torture if they do not accept them? That is no freedom of choice that is like me holding a gun to a person head.. They have a choice to make but there life will end if they choose the wrong one..

In the end I call any one a coward who falls for these cheap tactics.. Because I would rather go to hell with my dignitity, ethics, and ideals unbended to a brutal dictator then be a coward accepting everything that is force fed down my throat with no questions what so ever to the numerous flaws of their rule.

huladog123

Clealry the Billions of people are starving in the world because its THEIR fault.. Clearly the millions of people suffering from diease and natural dieasters are THEIR fault.. Clearly the millions dieing every year at a young age due to birth defects or are born with terrible dieases or syndromes is THEIR fault.. I am sorry but only a brutal dictator would think this way, some one so arrogant on many levels believing that these people are suffering due to their own faults when they have no way in their own power to avoid it..

Or how bout the fact all those people who went to hell because they had the "bad Luck" of being born in a time where Christanity simply did not exist.. I would tend to think thats GODS fault rather then the peoples fault.

Because the Christian god is all knowing, he knew exactly what what happen when he created everything.

Implying that he knew and intended certain humans to go to either heaven or hell.

Also implying that everything bad that happens is a direct result of god's actions.

Rapings, murders, ect. all god's fault.

Anyway, here's a fun little saying.

Hitler burned the Jews, and that is why we call him evil.

God will burn the Jews for all eternity, and that is why we call him just.

~ hitler > Christian god

with hitler at least it was only temporary.

[QUOTE="huladog123"][QUOTE="ShuLordLiuPei"][QUOTE="huladog123"]i'm sorry to say this, but if you go to hell, maybe you'll remember what i said today and wish that you had listened. Besides, I'm helping you guys out big time!! I'm telling you about the free gift of eternal life, and you're not just rejecting it, but you're rejecting God because you love sinning because it's easy.sSubZerOo

If some one held a gun to your head and was going to kill you, I doubt no matter what prayers you say they will not work.. INfact there have been science experiements where they have collected data showing that prayer infact does not work.. If prayer worked 54% of the worlds population wouldn't be in poverty.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="huladog123"][QUOTE="ShuLordLiuPei"][QUOTE="huladog123"]i'm sorry to say this, but if you go to hell, maybe you'll remember what i said today and wish that you had listened. Besides, I'm helping you guys out big time!! I'm telling you about the free gift of eternal life, and you're not just rejecting it, but you're rejecting God because you love sinning because it's easy.huladog123

If some one held a gun to your head and was going to kill you, I doubt no matter what prayers you say they will not work.. INfact there have been science experiements where they have collected data showing that prayer infact does not work.. If prayer worked 54% of the worlds population wouldn't be in poverty.

wha's so perfect about god? he created the gun in the first place, he created hell so really we could blame him for everything

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="huladog123"][QUOTE="ShuLordLiuPei"][QUOTE="huladog123"]i'm sorry to say this, but if you go to hell, maybe you'll remember what i said today and wish that you had listened. Besides, I'm helping you guys out big time!! I'm telling you about the free gift of eternal life, and you're not just rejecting it, but you're rejecting God because you love sinning because it's easy.huladog123

If some one held a gun to your head and was going to kill you, I doubt no matter what prayers you say they will not work.. INfact there have been science experiements where they have collected data showing that prayer infact does not work.. If prayer worked 54% of the worlds population wouldn't be in poverty.

I'd go to Cleveland.

My ashes would be scattered across the ocean.

the water would be used to make baby lotion.

Then the wheels of promotion would be set into motion.

Sin is humanity's fauly. God gave Adam and Eve a choice to obey him, or to disobey. They chose to disobey, which is why we have sickness, pain, death, disasters, and sin whihc includes raping,s murderings, drug use etc. If you're gonna blame it on God for all the bad things happening in the world, then I guess you would've rather have had God NOT create the universe and you, so that you COULDN'T have the CHOICE to accept his WONDERFUL GIFT OF ETERNAL PERFECT LIFE IN HEAVEN?!huladog123

I don't think i'ld have cared if i didn't exist!

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="huladog123"][QUOTE="ShuLordLiuPei"][QUOTE="huladog123"]i'm sorry to say this, but if you go to hell, maybe you'll remember what i said today and wish that you had listened. Besides, I'm helping you guys out big time!! I'm telling you about the free gift of eternal life, and you're not just rejecting it, but you're rejecting God because you love sinning because it's easy.huladog123

If some one held a gun to your head and was going to kill you, I doubt no matter what prayers you say they will not work.. INfact there have been science experiements where they have collected data showing that prayer infact does not work.. If prayer worked 54% of the worlds population wouldn't be in poverty.

Whats wrong with that? It happens in nature all the time, we die, we rot, maggot food. But you guys dont like the idea dying and not living anymore, dont you? You guys wanna live on forever huh.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="huladog123"][QUOTE="ShuLordLiuPei"][QUOTE="huladog123"]i'm sorry to say this, but if you go to hell, maybe you'll remember what i said today and wish that you had listened. Besides, I'm helping you guys out big time!! I'm telling you about the free gift of eternal life, and you're not just rejecting it, but you're rejecting God because you love sinning because it's easy.huladog123

If some one held a gun to your head and was going to kill you, I doubt no matter what prayers you say they will not work.. INfact there have been science experiements where they have collected data showing that prayer infact does not work.. If prayer worked 54% of the worlds population wouldn't be in poverty.

No what I am pointing out on god answering prayers is utterly bs. I never said god doesn't exist, he or she DOES NOT ANSWER PRAYERS though, and I think this to be a dillusion to people who some how think it is.. These people A) have no clue what probability is B) are dillusional and C) are so insecure with their beliefs that they have to find some proof no matter how rediculous it is.

What Scientists did was simply get a pool of people during their lives and kept track of their prayers, and behold the vast majority of prayers did not come true.

I would go to Alderaan. But wait! It's blown up! Oh noes!

Heaven it is, I guess.

Sin is humanity's fauly. God gave Adam and Eve a choice to obey him, or to disobey. They chose to disobey, which is why we have sickness, pain, death, disasters, and sin whihc includes raping,s murderings, drug use etc. If you're gonna blame it on God for all the bad things happening in the world, then I guess you would've rather have had God NOT create the universe and you, so that you COULDN'T have the CHOICE to accept his WONDERFUL GIFT OF ETERNAL PERFECT LIFE IN HEAVEN?!huladog123

If all events are pre-determined, choice is merely an illusion, because an all knowing god would know every event that would come after his creation, meaning god would have intended adam and eve to disobey going by basic logic.

And if you're a Christian, and Islam is the correct religion, you go to hell. :wink: So it's not quite as simple as just choosing to worship or not.