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I know that I have witnessed to all of you guys here who have read what I have said, and never once did I lose my faith in God, no matter what you said to me. When you're standing before God at heaven's gates and he says, "Depart from me, for I never knew you" adn the next moment you're in hell suffering for eternity, then it isn't my problem, no, it's yours. You'll all be sorry one day, and maybe then you'll think about what I've told you, and maybe then you'll be sorry for wasting your life on sin, satan, and rejecting God. Goodbye.huladog123

Maybe before you die you should look up basic logic and reasoning as well as philosophy....

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[QUOTE="huladog123"]Sin is humanity's fauly. God gave Adam and Eve a choice to obey him, or to disobey. They chose to disobey, which is why we have sickness, pain, death, disasters, and sin whihc includes raping,s murderings, drug use etc. If you're gonna blame it on God for all the bad things happening in the world, then I guess you would've rather have had God NOT create the universe and you, so that you COULDN'T have the CHOICE to accept his WONDERFUL GIFT OF ETERNAL PERFECT LIFE IN HEAVEN?!yoshi-lnex

Choice is in direct contradiction with the idea of an all knowing god, meaning if either one exists, the other does not.

If all events are pre-determined, choice is merely an illusion, because an all knowing god would know every event that would come after his creation, meaning god would have intended adam and eve to disobey going by basic logic.

And if you're a Christian, and Islam is the correct religion, you go to hell. :wink: So it's not quite as simple as just choosing to worship or not.

would you rather follow Islam than Christianity? I don't see any christians blowing themselves up for their "false" god adn at the same time injuring adn killing innocent people.
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[QUOTE="huladog123"]I know that I have witnessed to all of you guys here who have read what I have said, and never once did I lose my faith in God, no matter what you said to me. When you're standing before God at heaven's gates and he says, "Depart from me, for I never knew you" adn the next moment you're in hell suffering for eternity, then it isn't my problem, no, it's yours. You'll all be sorry one day, and maybe then you'll think about what I've told you, and maybe then you'll be sorry for wasting your life on sin, satan, and rejecting God. Goodbye.sSubZerOo

Maybe before you die you should look up basic logic and reasoning as well as philosophy....

Logic and philosophy made by man is nothing compared to God, who is infinitely greater. No thanks, I'd rather escape hell, go to heaven with God and my family than believe lies. Lies lies lies. That's all you guys want to bleive, because you think it's better, because its 'easier". But you have no hope, so why do you belive lies?
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I know that I have witnessed to all of you guys here who have read what I have said, and never once did I lose my faith in God, no matter what you said to me. When you're standing before God at heaven's gates and he says, "Depart from me, for I never knew you" adn the next moment you're in hell suffering for eternity, then it isn't my problem, no, it's yours. You'll all be sorry one day, and maybe then you'll think about what I've told you, and maybe then you'll be sorry for wasting your life on sin, satan, and rejecting God. Goodbye.huladog123

I'm sure that when suffering in hell we'll be recalling the one chance we were offered at redemption in forums on a gaming website, because well I can't think of anything more important or relevant in my life which may have led up to my suffering for eternity.

Just give it a rest, no one's opinion or beliefs will be changed by all this bickering, ranting and whathaveyou. on either side

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[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]

[QUOTE="huladog123"]Sin is humanity's fauly. God gave Adam and Eve a choice to obey him, or to disobey. They chose to disobey, which is why we have sickness, pain, death, disasters, and sin whihc includes raping,s murderings, drug use etc. If you're gonna blame it on God for all the bad things happening in the world, then I guess you would've rather have had God NOT create the universe and you, so that you COULDN'T have the CHOICE to accept his WONDERFUL GIFT OF ETERNAL PERFECT LIFE IN HEAVEN?!huladog123

Choice is in direct contradiction with the idea of an all knowing god, meaning if either one exists, the other does not.

If all events are pre-determined, choice is merely an illusion, because an all knowing god would know every event that would come after his creation, meaning god would have intended adam and eve to disobey going by basic logic.

And if you're a Christian, and Islam is the correct religion, you go to hell. :wink: So it's not quite as simple as just choosing to worship or not.

would you rather follow Islam than Christianity? I don't see any christians blowing themselves up for their "false" god adn at the same time injuring adn killing innocent people.

Red Herring.

How does that make the False god in Islam any more real than the False god in Christianity?

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[QUOTE="huladog123"]I know that I have witnessed to all of you guys here who have read what I have said, and never once did I lose my faith in God, no matter what you said to me. When you're standing before God at heaven's gates and he says, "Depart from me, for I never knew you" adn the next moment you're in hell suffering for eternity, then it isn't my problem, no, it's yours. You'll all be sorry one day, and maybe then you'll think about what I've told you, and maybe then you'll be sorry for wasting your life on sin, satan, and rejecting God. Goodbye.anterocide

I'm sure that when suffering in hell we'll be recalling the one chance we were offered at redemption in forums on a gaming website, because well I can't think of anything more important or relevant in my life which may have led up to my suffering for eternity.

Just give it a rest, no one's opinion or beliefs will be changed by all this bickering, ranting and whathaveyou. on either side

I feel really sad about all of you, knowing that you'll all be i hell on day, and that your life didn't matter at all since you rejected God. I feel really sad for you, but I am not ashamed of preaching God' word
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Logic and philosophy made by man is nothing compared to God, who is infinitely greater. No thanks, I'd rather escape hell, go to heaven with God and my family than believe lies. Lies lies lies. That's all you guys want to bleive, because you think it's better, because its 'easier". But you have no hope, so why do you belive lies?huladog123
It is infinitely easier to accept the set of beliefs you have been taught since childhood than to set it aside for a set of beliefs you find depressing but logically inescapable.
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If exists, i'll go to hell because I like it hot, all my friends will be there too, and I would make it a super awesome party!! Seriously though, i'm sick and tired of these religious crazies invading my life with the excuse that they're trying to save me.
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#60 huladog123
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[QUOTE="huladog123"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]

[QUOTE="huladog123"]Sin is humanity's fauly. God gave Adam and Eve a choice to obey him, or to disobey. They chose to disobey, which is why we have sickness, pain, death, disasters, and sin whihc includes raping,s murderings, drug use etc. If you're gonna blame it on God for all the bad things happening in the world, then I guess you would've rather have had God NOT create the universe and you, so that you COULDN'T have the CHOICE to accept his WONDERFUL GIFT OF ETERNAL PERFECT LIFE IN HEAVEN?!yoshi-lnex

Choice is in direct contradiction with the idea of an all knowing god, meaning if either one exists, the other does not.

If all events are pre-determined, choice is merely an illusion, because an all knowing god would know every event that would come after his creation, meaning god would have intended adam and eve to disobey going by basic logic.

And if you're a Christian, and Islam is the correct religion, you go to hell. :wink: So it's not quite as simple as just choosing to worship or not.

would you rather follow Islam than Christianity? I don't see any christians blowing themselves up for their "false" god adn at the same time injuring adn killing innocent people.

Red Herring.

How does that make the False god in Islam any more real than the False god in Christianity?

Because Islam's god is just the moon, which is a satellite orbiting our planet, and the one true God is offering us life. Islam was started by Muhammad who was in the presencse of a demon. Demons aren't gods. They are the esact opposite.
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="huladog123"]I know that I have witnessed to all of you guys here who have read what I have said, and never once did I lose my faith in God, no matter what you said to me. When you're standing before God at heaven's gates and he says, "Depart from me, for I never knew you" adn the next moment you're in hell suffering for eternity, then it isn't my problem, no, it's yours. You'll all be sorry one day, and maybe then you'll think about what I've told you, and maybe then you'll be sorry for wasting your life on sin, satan, and rejecting God. Goodbye.huladog123

Maybe before you die you should look up basic logic and reasoning as well as philosophy....

Logic and philosophy made by man is nothing compared to God, who is infinitely greater. No thanks, I'd rather escape hell, go to heaven with God and my family than believe lies. Lies lies lies. That's all you guys want to bleive, because you think it's better, because its 'easier". But you have no hope, so why do you belive lies?

Dude you need to shut up already, everyone can see how much of a fanatic you are.

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[QUOTE="anterocide"]

[QUOTE="huladog123"]I know that I have witnessed to all of you guys here who have read what I have said, and never once did I lose my faith in God, no matter what you said to me. When you're standing before God at heaven's gates and he says, "Depart from me, for I never knew you" adn the next moment you're in hell suffering for eternity, then it isn't my problem, no, it's yours. You'll all be sorry one day, and maybe then you'll think about what I've told you, and maybe then you'll be sorry for wasting your life on sin, satan, and rejecting God. Goodbye.huladog123

I'm sure that when suffering in hell we'll be recalling the one chance we were offered at redemption in forums on a gaming website, because well I can't think of anything more important or relevant in my life which may have led up to my suffering for eternity.

Just give it a rest, no one's opinion or beliefs will be changed by all this bickering, ranting and whathaveyou. on either side

I feel really sad about all of you, knowing that you'll all be i hell on day, and that your life didn't matter at all since you rejected God. I feel really sad for you, but I am not ashamed of preaching God' word

ok fine, don't expect to do anything more than get people ticked and make yourself sadder and sadder.

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#63 huladog123
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all of you guys are completely lost. i dont believe what I believe just becasue I've been raised up through childhood by it. I believe it because it it the truth, and I know it for a fact because it's exactly what GOD himself says in the Bible, which was started by God himself at the very beginning of time, which by the way wasn't that long ago. Only about 6000 years according to the genealogies all the way down to the first humans created no the 6th day of creation by God.
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[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="huladog123"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]

[QUOTE="huladog123"]Sin is humanity's fauly. God gave Adam and Eve a choice to obey him, or to disobey. They chose to disobey, which is why we have sickness, pain, death, disasters, and sin whihc includes raping,s murderings, drug use etc. If you're gonna blame it on God for all the bad things happening in the world, then I guess you would've rather have had God NOT create the universe and you, so that you COULDN'T have the CHOICE to accept his WONDERFUL GIFT OF ETERNAL PERFECT LIFE IN HEAVEN?!huladog123

Choice is in direct contradiction with the idea of an all knowing god, meaning if either one exists, the other does not.

If all events are pre-determined, choice is merely an illusion, because an all knowing god would know every event that would come after his creation, meaning god would have intended adam and eve to disobey going by basic logic.

And if you're a Christian, and Islam is the correct religion, you go to hell. :wink: So it's not quite as simple as just choosing to worship or not.

would you rather follow Islam than Christianity? I don't see any christians blowing themselves up for their "false" god adn at the same time injuring adn killing innocent people.

Red Herring.

How does that make the False god in Islam any more real than the False god in Christianity?

Because Islam's god is just the moon, which is a satellite orbiting our planet, and the one true God is offering us life. Islam was started by Muhammad who was in the presencse of a demon. Demons aren't gods. They are the esact opposite.

Not only is this just a red herring, but you have some major misconceptions about Islam.

Wheredid you get the idea that they worship the moon? Allah is a shapeless, all powerfull being. A being that if you do not worship you will go to hell. :)

Mohammad spoke to an angel sent by god to deliver important information to humans (Koran)

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This is why Christians have such a negative reputation.

I'm hell bound anyway, by virtue of not believing in heaven or hell. Besides, at least I'd be going wherever you weren't going to be , so it couldn't be all bad.

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all of you guys are completely lost. i dont believe what I believe just becasue I've been raised up through childhood by it. I believe it because it it the truth, and I know it for a fact because it's exactly what GOD himself says in the Bible, which was started by God himself at the very beginning of time, which by the way wasn't that long ago. Only about 6000 years according to the genealogies all the way down to the first humans created no the 6th day of creation by God.huladog123
I didn't mean to insult your belief system or your personal reasons for accepting what you have been taught. For all I know, you could have been raised in a non-religious home and converted to Christianity later in life. I was actually referring to my own experiences when I talked about the difficulty of surrendering a set of beliefs instilled since childhood.
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And you stare at me in your Jesus Christ pose
Arms held out like you've been carrying a load
And you swear to me you don't want to be my slave
But you're staring at me like I need to be saved

In your Jesus Christ pose
Arms held out
In your Jesus Christ pose

Thorns and shroud like it's the coming of the Lord
And I swear to you that I would never feed you pain
But you're staring at me like I'm driving the nails

In your Jesus Christ pose
And you stare at me
In your Jesus Christ pose

Arms held out like it's the coming of the Lord
And would it pay you more to walk on water
Than to wear a crown of thorns
It wouldn't pain me more to bury you rich
Than to bury you poor
In your Jesus Christ pose

-Soundgarden "Jesus Christ Pose"

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[QUOTE="huladog123"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="huladog123"]I know that I have witnessed to all of you guys here who have read what I have said, and never once did I lose my faith in God, no matter what you said to me. When you're standing before God at heaven's gates and he says, "Depart from me, for I never knew you" adn the next moment you're in hell suffering for eternity, then it isn't my problem, no, it's yours. You'll all be sorry one day, and maybe then you'll think about what I've told you, and maybe then you'll be sorry for wasting your life on sin, satan, and rejecting God. Goodbye.tzar3

Maybe before you die you should look up basic logic and reasoning as well as philosophy....

Logic and philosophy made by man is nothing compared to God, who is infinitely greater. No thanks, I'd rather escape hell, go to heaven with God and my family than believe lies. Lies lies lies. That's all you guys want to bleive, because you think it's better, because its 'easier". But you have no hope, so why do you belive lies?

Dude you need to shut up already, everyone can see how much of a fanatic you are.

I refuse to be silent. I stand for God and his Word, and nothing can ever take that away from me. Nothing in the universe can take his love away from. God loves you too. He loves you even if you do nothing but sin, because he made you and he wants you to be in heaven with him. Even if you lead a great life, everyone sins at some point, eevryone. And that separates them from God unless thye repent and ask for forgiveness, which by doing that you are showing God you have faith in Him.
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Who would choose hell? :|sonicare
i agree.
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[QUOTE="huladog123"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="huladog123"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]

[QUOTE="huladog123"]Sin is humanity's fauly. God gave Adam and Eve a choice to obey him, or to disobey. They chose to disobey, which is why we have sickness, pain, death, disasters, and sin whihc includes raping,s murderings, drug use etc. If you're gonna blame it on God for all the bad things happening in the world, then I guess you would've rather have had God NOT create the universe and you, so that you COULDN'T have the CHOICE to accept his WONDERFUL GIFT OF ETERNAL PERFECT LIFE IN HEAVEN?!yoshi-lnex

Choice is in direct contradiction with the idea of an all knowing god, meaning if either one exists, the other does not.

If all events are pre-determined, choice is merely an illusion, because an all knowing god would know every event that would come after his creation, meaning god would have intended adam and eve to disobey going by basic logic.

And if you're a Christian, and Islam is the correct religion, you go to hell. :wink: So it's not quite as simple as just choosing to worship or not.

would you rather follow Islam than Christianity? I don't see any christians blowing themselves up for their "false" god adn at the same time injuring adn killing innocent people.

Red Herring.

How does that make the False god in Islam any more real than the False god in Christianity?

Because Islam's god is just the moon, which is a satellite orbiting our planet, and the one true God is offering us life. Islam was started by Muhammad who was in the presencse of a demon. Demons aren't gods. They are the esact opposite.

Not only is this just a red herring, but you have some major misconceptions about Islam.

Wheredid you get the idea that they worship the moon? Allah is a shapeless, all powerfull being. A being that if you do not worship you will go to hell. :)

Mohammad spoke to an angel sent by god to deliver important information to humans (Koran)

And so it says in the Bible, "Satan and demons can appear as beautiful angels to men," but real angels won't accept worship when you give it to them.
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[QUOTE="huladog123"]all of you guys are completely lost. i dont believe what I believe just becasue I've been raised up through childhood by it. I believe it because it it the truth, and I know it for a fact because it's exactly what GOD himself says in the Bible, which was started by God himself at the very beginning of time, which by the way wasn't that long ago. Only about 6000 years according to the genealogies all the way down to the first humans created no the 6th day of creation by God.Elraptor
I didn't mean to insult your belief system or your personal reasons for accepting what you have been taught. For all I know, you could have been raised in a non-religious home and converted to Christianity later in life. I was actually referring to my own experiences when I talked about the difficulty of surrendering a set of beliefs instilled since childhood.

although that may be goo,d you still won't be saved unless you put your faith in the one true God.
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This is why Christians have such a negative reputation.

I'm hell bound anyway, by virtue of not believing in heaven or hell. Besides, at least I'd be going wherever you weren't going to be , so it couldn't be all bad.

Chevolutionary
can you prove to me that burning at 3000 degrees celcius is not "all that bad??"
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See the great irony in this is your entire belief system is flawed.. If you believe god is supreme and man is flawed then your entire beliefs are flawed.. BECAUSE MAN rewrote the bible thousands of times over, you were taught by man this religion, and god does NOT speak to you. TheBible has been rewritten uncountable amounts of times, regardless if the original was perfect and true it has been copied by a imperfect being, same goes for it being taught to you. So your pretty much disproving your self right off the bat. This is what I am talking about, LEARN fundamentals of logic because your not persuading any one here.. In fact your driving people away because your shown to be a blind fanatic..
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[QUOTE="huladog123"]all of you guys are completely lost. i dont believe what I believe just becasue I've been raised up through childhood by it. I believe it because it it the truth, and I know it for a fact because it's exactly what GOD himself says in the Bible, which was started by God himself at the very beginning of time, which by the way wasn't that long ago. Only about 6000 years according to the genealogies all the way down to the first humans created no the 6th day of creation by God.Elraptor
I didn't mean to insult your belief system or your personal reasons for accepting what you have been taught. For all I know, you could have been raised in a non-religious home and converted to Christianity later in life. I was actually referring to my own experiences when I talked about the difficulty of surrendering a set of beliefs instilled since childhood.



locutus ftw!
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I'm going into the ground. :D
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[QUOTE="Chevolutionary"]

This is why Christians have such a negative reputation.

I'm hell bound anyway, by virtue of not believing in heaven or hell. Besides, at least I'd be going wherever you weren't going to be , so it couldn't be all bad.

huladog123

can you prove to me that burning at 3000 degrees celcius is not "all that bad??"

You seem like quite a expert for some one who hasn't been to the places you talk about, and if it was 3000 degrees celcius you wouldn't feel it.. Your would instantly incinerated along with your nerves instantly dieing...

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all of you guys are completely lost. i dont believe what I believe just becasue I've been raised up through childhood by it. I believe it because it it the truthhuladog123
This argument doesn't make sence, why don't you just admit that your belief in god is an assumption. Muslims believe the Koran "because it's the truth" Jews follow the Torah "because it's the truth" kids believe in the easter bunny because they were raised to believe in it, and "because it's the truth" while in reality there is no solid bases for this thinking.

and I know it for a fact because it's exactly what GOD himself says in the Bible,huladog123
Circular logic. You are using the bible to prove the existance of god, and saying the bible is correct because god helped write it. I advise you to read up on logic.

Your "proof" basically goes like this god wrote the bible -> the bible is correct, implying -> wrote the bible -> the bible is correct, implying -> god wrote the bible -> the bible is correct, implying -> wrote the bible -> the bible is correct, implying -> ect.

Do you understand?

which was started by God himself at the very beginning of time, which by the way wasn't that long ago. Only about 6000 years according to the genealogies all the way down to the first humans created no the 6th day of creation by God. huladog123
Anybody with a basic understanding of genetics will tell you that this is flat out wrong, humans would not have been around long enough for such genetic diversity to arrise, and the amount of inbreeding by early humans would have killed humans off. The Earth has been proven to be 4.6 billion years so many times I don't know how people can continue to reject it. To imply that radiometric dating doesn't work is pure idiocy, it also implies that we also lack the knowledge to create, oh say, the atomic bomb, because the same physics are involved, it implys that we don't know how the machines using radiation is hospitals work, it implies that humans have a misunderstanding of the basic statistics involved in calculation. In reality, it's a very precise science, and it shows the Earth is about 4.6 billion years old.

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#79 tekmojo
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Looks like huladog has been sipping on a little too much holy water. At any rate, I'd rather make my own decisions in life. Very few people were educated in the beginnings of established religion. I would like to think that my opinion on a good life matters more to me than some ancient fables written down in a book by drunken monks. Ok I exaggerated a bit there but you get the point.
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#80 huladog123
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see, the reason why people believe in the stupid 4.6 billion years is because they don't want to belive in God. Scientists say that everything in the universe came from a tiny ball of matter. Ok, then where did that tiny ball of matter come from? even the vacuum of space itself is osmething.
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#81 yoshi-lnex
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[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="huladog123"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="huladog123"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]

[QUOTE="huladog123"]Sin is humanity's fauly. God gave Adam and Eve a choice to obey him, or to disobey. They chose to disobey, which is why we have sickness, pain, death, disasters, and sin whihc includes raping,s murderings, drug use etc. If you're gonna blame it on God for all the bad things happening in the world, then I guess you would've rather have had God NOT create the universe and you, so that you COULDN'T have the CHOICE to accept his WONDERFUL GIFT OF ETERNAL PERFECT LIFE IN HEAVEN?!huladog123

Choice is in direct contradiction with the idea of an all knowing god, meaning if either one exists, the other does not.

If all events are pre-determined, choice is merely an illusion, because an all knowing god would know every event that would come after his creation, meaning god would have intended adam and eve to disobey going by basic logic.

And if you're a Christian, and Islam is the correct religion, you go to hell. :wink: So it's not quite as simple as just choosing to worship or not.

would you rather follow Islam than Christianity? I don't see any christians blowing themselves up for their "false" god adn at the same time injuring adn killing innocent people.

Red Herring.

How does that make the False god in Islam any more real than the False god in Christianity?

Because Islam's god is just the moon, which is a satellite orbiting our planet, and the one true God is offering us life. Islam was started by Muhammad who was in the presencse of a demon. Demons aren't gods. They are the esact opposite.

Not only is this just a red herring, but you have some major misconceptions about Islam.

Wheredid you get the idea that they worship the moon? Allah is a shapeless, all powerfull being. A being that if you do not worship you will go to hell. :)

Mohammad spoke to an angel sent by god to deliver important information to humans (Koran)

And so it says in the Bible, "Satan and demons can appear as beautiful angels to men," but real angels won't accept worship when you give it to them.

The problem here is that you're assuming the bible to be true, if the Koran or neither is true, then your argument does work, and because you do not have evidence to support your claim, this argument is false.

and like I've said if Islam is correct, you go to hell.

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see, the reason why people believe in the stupid 4.6 billion years is because they don't want to belive in God. Scientists say that everything in the universe came from a tiny ball of matter. Ok, then where did that tiny ball of matter come from? even the vacuum of space itself is osmething.huladog123

Maybe you should READ about these scientific studies.. I know its a STRETCH for you because your one of the most insanely bias person alot of us have ever met..

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#83 XFull_MetalX
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Heaven. I am an angel.
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#84 huladog123
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Looks like huladog has been sipping on a little too much holy water. At any rate, I'd rather make my own decisions in life. Very few people were educated in the beginnings of established religion. I would like to think that my opinion on a good life matters more to me than some ancient fables written down in a book by drunken monks. Ok I exaggerated a bit there but you get the point.tekmojo
you can ONLY make your own decisions!! no one else cna make them for you. So why not make the decision of putting your faith in God today? and btw there is no such thing as "holy water" even if you were being sarcastic.
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#85 huladog123
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[QUOTE="huladog123"]see, the reason why people believe in the stupid 4.6 billion years is because they don't want to belive in God. Scientists say that everything in the universe came from a tiny ball of matter. Ok, then where did that tiny ball of matter come from? even the vacuum of space itself is osmething.sSubZerOo

Maybe you should READ about these scientific studies.. I know its a STRETCH for you because your one of the most insanely bias person alot of us have ever met..

if you and everyone else here is just going to reject God and what I'm telling you that he's offering, then why continue to argue adn come to this thread?
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see, the reason why people believe in the stupid 4.6 billion years is because they don't want to belive in God. Scientists say that everything in the universe came from a tiny ball of matter. Ok, then where did that tiny ball of matter come from? even the vacuum of space itself is osmething.huladog123
Actually, it's the radiometric dating system that has proven the Earth to have a certain age.

Honestly we don't know everthing about how the universe began, but we are getting closer all the time http://seedmagazine.com/news/2006/05/the_universe_before_it_began.phpand will eventually figure it out.

But rejecting evidence and substituting assumptions isn't the right direction here.

However, where did god come from?

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You say rejecting salvation is easy, but it's really not. With people like going around shoving your beliefs down our throats all the time, it's become something of a chore. Also, what exactly do you hope to accomplish here? Trying to convert people over the internet (much less on a gaming website) is very VERY lost cause.
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[QUOTE="tzar3"][QUOTE="huladog123"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="huladog123"]I know that I have witnessed to all of you guys here who have read what I have said, and never once did I lose my faith in God, no matter what you said to me. When you're standing before God at heaven's gates and he says, "Depart from me, for I never knew you" adn the next moment you're in hell suffering for eternity, then it isn't my problem, no, it's yours. You'll all be sorry one day, and maybe then you'll think about what I've told you, and maybe then you'll be sorry for wasting your life on sin, satan, and rejecting God. Goodbye.huladog123

Maybe before you die you should look up basic logic and reasoning as well as philosophy....

Logic and philosophy made by man is nothing compared to God, who is infinitely greater. No thanks, I'd rather escape hell, go to heaven with God and my family than believe lies. Lies lies lies. That's all you guys want to bleive, because you think it's better, because its 'easier". But you have no hope, so why do you belive lies?

Dude you need to shut up already, everyone can see how much of a fanatic you are.

I refuse to be silent. I stand for God and his Word, and nothing can ever take that away from me. Nothing in the universe can take his love away from. God loves you too. He loves you even if you do nothing but sin, because he made you and he wants you to be in heaven with him. Even if you lead a great life, everyone sins at some point, eevryone. And that separates them from God unless thye repent and ask for forgiveness, which by doing that you are showing God you have faith in Him.

Yeah yeah you nut, anything else?

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[QUOTE="tekmojo"]Looks like huladog has been sipping on a little too much holy water. At any rate, I'd rather make my own decisions in life. Very few people were educated in the beginnings of established religion. I would like to think that my opinion on a good life matters more to me than some ancient fables written down in a book by drunken monks. Ok I exaggerated a bit there but you get the point.huladog123
you can ONLY make your own decisions!! no one else cna make them for you. So why not make the decision of putting your faith in God today? and btw there is no such thing as "holy water" even if you were being sarcastic.

What decisions? Having a person pointing a gun at my head saying I have a choice, and if I pick the wrong one I die, isn't very good choice.. Your beliefs are the exact same thing.. If this were true god never gave us a choice, any rational person will avoid excruiating death.. Seriouslly this would be like our President of the United States controling the senate witha Saw machine gun, then claiming this is a free country.

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I would go to another planet in another universe.
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#92 yoshi-lnex
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[QUOTE="tekmojo"]Looks like huladog has been sipping on a little too much holy water. At any rate, I'd rather make my own decisions in life. Very few people were educated in the beginnings of established religion. I would like to think that my opinion on a good life matters more to me than some ancient fables written down in a book by drunken monks. Ok I exaggerated a bit there but you get the point.huladog123
you can ONLY make your own decisions!! no one else cna make them for you. So why not make the decision of putting your faith in God today? and btw there is no such thing as "holy water" even if you were being sarcastic.

If an all knowing god exists, all your decisions have already been made :wink:
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see, the reason why people believe in the stupid 4.6 billion years is because they don't want to belive in God. Scientists say that everything in the universe came from a tiny ball of matter. Ok, then where did that tiny ball of matter come from? even the vacuum of space itself is osmething.huladog123
Christians beleive god created everything, but then where did god come from? TIME PARADOX!
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="huladog123"]see, the reason why people believe in the stupid 4.6 billion years is because they don't want to belive in God. Scientists say that everything in the universe came from a tiny ball of matter. Ok, then where did that tiny ball of matter come from? even the vacuum of space itself is osmething.huladog123

Maybe you should READ about these scientific studies.. I know its a STRETCH for you because your one of the most insanely bias person alot of us have ever met..

if you and everyone else here is just going to reject God and what I'm telling you that he's offering, then why continue to argue adn come to this thread?



you know, i think you've got the wrong god.  i hear nothing but anger from you and I think in fact it is YOU who will be going to hell.
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God and his Word


How do you know its a he?
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Heaven. I am an angel.XFull_MetalX
Then what are you doing on GameSpot? :o
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="huladog123"]see, the reason why people believe in the stupid 4.6 billion years is because they don't want to belive in God. Scientists say that everything in the universe came from a tiny ball of matter. Ok, then where did that tiny ball of matter come from? even the vacuum of space itself is osmething.huladog123

Maybe you should READ about these scientific studies.. I know its a STRETCH for you because your one of the most insanely bias person alot of us have ever met..

if you and everyone else here is just going to reject God and what I'm telling you that he's offering, then why continue to argue adn come to this thread?

Because arguing is fun. And you're so easy to argue against.
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You say rejecting salvation is easy, but it's really not. With people like going around shoving your beliefs down our throats all the time, it's become something of a chore. Also, what exactly do you hope to accomplish here? Trying to convert people over the internet (much less on a gaming website) is very VERY lost cause.Bulldog19892

If the religion were perfect with no faults, no doubts, no logical pit falls.. There would be no need to have people who purposely spread it. Technology alone has shown that every country adopts something so beneficial to mankind constantly if economics does not get in the way.. Apparently this religion isn't that perfect after all..

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we have already figured out how the universe began. God is an actual being from a different "dimension" outside time and space. He's the one who created the universe and he says that on the sixth day of creation, he created the first man and woman. We date genealogies bakc to adam and eve and it's about 6000 years. So yeha, we know how old the universe is adn how it began.
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ask god to forgive you for your sins.