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#101 svenus97
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[QUOTE="svenus97"][QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]

She's a crappy Piano player...

I know of Pianists, vocalists and songwriters who put that crap to absolute shame

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Dream theater ? Anyways, she is better than you will ever be :)

o.O We'll see about that

Well, judging by your lyrics thread, we won't have to see. Cause it will never happen.
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#102 DmadFearmonger
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[QUOTE="svenus97"][QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="svenus97"] Dream theater ? Anyways, she is better than you will ever be :)

o.O We'll see about that

Well, judging by your lyrics thread, we won't have to see. Cause it will never happen.

Get out of it mate.
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#103 Brutal_Elitegs
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Keyboard, same instrument but superior. I don't see your pointDmadFearmonger
There's this oneDmadFearmonger


That's a pretty solid argument for why a good piano is far superior to a keyboard/digital piano (and that one probably costs a bomb); you could not reproduce this on that instrument.

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#104 gameguy6700
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I find it hilarious how everyone, at least before this thread devolved into piano vs. keyboard, was talking about how if all of Gaga's songs were like this they would listen, without realizing that this is currently the top single from her new album. And then it became "well, that one is just pop garbage, this one is deeper" without realizing that the only difference between this version and the album one is that this one used only a piano. Funny how kids who complain about others having crap musical taste will eat up anything as artsy as long as it uses cIassical instruments.
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#105 svenus97
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[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="svenus97"][QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]o.O We'll see about that

Well, judging by your lyrics thread, we won't have to see. Cause it will never happen.

Get out of it mate.

Sure, keep living your fantasy.
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#106 DmadFearmonger
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[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]Keyboard, same instrument but superior. I don't see your pointBrutal_Elitegs

There's this oneDmadFearmonger


That's a pretty solid argument for why a good piano is far superior to a keyboard/digital piano (and that one probably costs a bomb); you could not reproduce this on that instrument.

You could reproduce that on just about any good Keyboard. Just put it on the Piano setting.

Just gonna point ot that the Piece has a really, really dull name

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#107 DmadFearmonger
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[QUOTE="svenus97"][QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="svenus97"] Well, judging by your lyrics thread, we won't have to see. Cause it will never happen.

Get out of it mate.

Sure, keep living your fantasy.

I will
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#108 BiancaDK
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thoroughly enjoyed that song, favourited it, so thanks for linking. (:

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#109 Brutal_Elitegs
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[QUOTE="Brutal_Elitegs"]

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"] [QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]There's this oneDmadFearmonger



That's a pretty solid argument for why a good piano is far superior to a keyboard/digital piano (and that one probably costs a bomb); you could not reproduce this on that instrument.

You could reproduce that on just about any good Keyboard. Just put it on the Piano setting.

Just gonna point ot that the Piece has a really, really dull name

The dynamics, the tonal colours, the subtleties to the music, can not be reproduced on a digital keyboard. You only have to look at the example you posted to see that; that sounds like it's digitally prerecorded sounds being played, because it is.

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#110 Candy-Star
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I find it hilarious how everyone, at least before this thread devolved into piano vs. keyboard, was talking about how if all of Gaga's songs were like this they would listen, without realizing that this is currently the top single from her new album. And then it became "well, that one is just pop garbage, this one is deeper" without realizing that the only difference between this version and the album one is that this one used only a piano. Funny how kids who complain about others having crap musical taste will eat up anything as artsy as long as it uses cIassical instruments.gameguy6700
Yeah I'll never get why people on this forum are so pretenious about music. Probably gamers that want to be seen as different from the masses as usual.
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#111 DmadFearmonger
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Haha, no. It's not.

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#112 MrsSolidSnake
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How does she play the piano with finger nails like that :|

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#113 tenaka2
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Haha, no. It's not.

DmadFearmonger

I really think you should listen to a wider range of music, your limiting yourself greatly.

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#114 DmadFearmonger
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[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]

Haha, no. It's not.

tenaka2

I really think you should listen to a wider range of music, your limiting yourself greatly.

I listen to plenty of different forms of music. What do you suggest I listen to?
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#115 Lto_thaG
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Edge of Glory was a boring song.

Although she looks hot in it.

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#116 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]

Haha, no. It's not.

DmadFearmonger

I really think you should listen to a wider range of music, your limiting yourself greatly.

I listen to plenty of different forms of music. What do you suggest I listen to?

If your into unusual vocals try Dead Can Dance, or just Lisa Gerrards solo stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wessHCA12gM&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=PL01ADFB2349C302B2

or this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJhVM930YXY&feature=related

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#117 Lonelynight
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He's brilliant no doubt. But he's not the worlds greatest DmadFearmonger
Same could be said about Jordan Rudess.
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#118 Lonelynight
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You could reproduce that on just about any good Keyboard.DmadFearmonger
That's it, I can't take you seriously anymore.
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#119 DmadFearmonger
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[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]He's brilliant no doubt. But he's not the worlds greatest Lonelynight
Same could be said about Jordan Rudess.

Even I said that about Jordan Rudess. He's only my favorite musically.
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#120 DmadFearmonger
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[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]You could reproduce that on just about any good Keyboard.Lonelynight
That's it, I can't take you seriously anymore.

What do you mean? Just put it on the Piano setting. Is there really that much of a difference?
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#121 DmadFearmonger
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[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

I really think you should listen to a wider range of music, your limiting yourself greatly.

tenaka2

I listen to plenty of different forms of music. What do you suggest I listen to?

If your into unusual vocals try Dead Can Dance, or just Lisa Gerrards solo stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wessHCA12gM&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=PL01ADFB2349C302B2

or this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJhVM930YXY&feature=related

Not bad, but nothing I find particularly interesting either
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#122 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]I listen to plenty of different forms of music. What do you suggest I listen to?DmadFearmonger

If your into unusual vocals try Dead Can Dance, or just Lisa Gerrards solo stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wessHCA12gM&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=PL01ADFB2349C302B2

or this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJhVM930YXY&feature=related

Not bad, but nothing I find particularly interesting either

At least you tried, its a start.

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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]You could reproduce that on just about any good Keyboard.DmadFearmonger
That's it, I can't take you seriously anymore.

What do you mean? Just put it on the Piano setting. Is there really that much of a difference?

yes... if they were, why would people still make acoustic pianos?
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#124 BiancaDK
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]You could reproduce that on just about any good Keyboard.DmadFearmonger
That's it, I can't take you seriously anymore.

What do you mean? Just put it on the Piano setting. Is there really that much of a difference?

there really is a world of difference, not being elitist here, but there is

not sure of why you cannot hear it

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#125 Brutal_Elitegs
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]You could reproduce that on just about any good Keyboard.DmadFearmonger
That's it, I can't take you seriously anymore.

What do you mean? Just put it on the Piano setting. Is there really that much of a difference?

Massive. It might not translate well on a Youtube video, but the difference is there. There's a reason those Steinways go for over $100,000.

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#126 DmadFearmonger
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"] That's it, I can't take you seriously anymore.

What do you mean? Just put it on the Piano setting. Is there really that much of a difference?

yes... if they were, why would people still make acoustic pianos?

Good point. But I'm pretty sure there are Keyboards that have Piano settings that sound identical to a good ol' Grand Piano
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#127 tenaka2
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there really is a world of difference, not being elitist here, but there is

not sure of why you cannot hear it

BiancaDK

It is called dysmusia.

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#128 mrmusicman247
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]What do you mean? Just put it on the Piano setting. Is there really that much of a difference?DmadFearmonger
yes... if they were, why would people still make acoustic pianos?

Good point. But I'm pretty sure there are Keyboards that have Piano settings that sound identical to a good ol' Grand Piano

It's not the same. I've been playing piano since I was 7. There is a very noticeable difference.
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#129 CaptainBeer
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A Piano is a Piano.

A Keyboard is just a thing that shouldn't exist.

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#130 Lonelynight
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But I'm pretty sure there are Keyboards that have Piano settings that sound identical to a good ol' Grand PianoDmadFearmonger
If doubt that there are any electric pianos that can imitate a good grand piano...
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#131 yokofox33
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She's a fantastic singer, but she also knows her GaGa persona will sell albums. Like people have said, a nice voice isn't good enough these days.

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#132 DmadFearmonger
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[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]But I'm pretty sure there are Keyboards that have Piano settings that sound identical to a good ol' Grand PianoLonelynight
If doubt that there are any electric pianos that can imitate a good grand piano...

Maybe really expensive ones
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#133 MasonLovak
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Of course she is talented, but I still wouldn't listen to her music.
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#134 -Shooter-
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A lot better than what I can do..

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#135 DaBlastaMasta
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She's so awesome.

brb, listening to Born this Way.

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#136 megagene
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]What do you mean? Just put it on the Piano setting. Is there really that much of a difference?DmadFearmonger
yes... if they were, why would people still make acoustic pianos?

Good point. But I'm pretty sure there are Keyboards that have Piano settings that sound identical to a good ol' Grand Piano

There are not. Even the best most expensive keyboard cannot capture the tone and subtle nuances of a real piano. To say that it can, is frankly, outrageous.
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#137 Wolls
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Always thought she was talented and I have massive respect for her and what she does. I hear she spends pretty much every penny she actually earns on her stage performances so in reality she isnt actually making that much money from her singing. Even so, that doesnt mean I have to like all of her songs and agree with everything she does
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#138 DrWin
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Lady gaga lol... You can know how to sing amazing like the noobs at American Idol, you can know how to play an instrument really well, and you can still be a talentless muscisian with no soul. Anyone that sings cliché MTV bubblegum mainstream trash gets no credit from me. Lady Gaga is the definition of that.

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#139 mrmusicman247
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Lady gaga lol... You can know how to sing amazing like the noobs at American Idol, you can know how to play an instrument really well, and you can still be a talentless muscisian with no soul. Anyone that sings cliché MTV bubblegum mainstream trash gets no credit from me. Lady Gaga is the definition of that.

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Being a talentless musician is an oxymoron. Not everyone can play an instrument well and that, in turn, makes it a talent. Now, a musician who is able to create their own sound, in my opinion, has soul. When you turn on the radio and you hear her songs, you know immediately it's her. Sure it might be mainstream, but people seem to think everything mainstream is a bad thing. That only good music comes from people you've never heard of. That's not true at all.
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#140 DrWin
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[QUOTE="DrWin"]

Lady gaga lol... You can know how to sing amazing like the noobs at American Idol, you can know how to play an instrument really well, and you can still be a talentless muscisian with no soul. Anyone that sings cliché MTV bubblegum mainstream trash gets no credit from me. Lady Gaga is the definition of that.

mrmusicman247
Being a talentless musician is an oxymoron. Not everyone can play an instrument well and that, in turn, makes it a talent. Now, a musician who is able to create their own sound, in my opinion, has soul. When you turn on the radio and you hear her songs, you know immediately it's her. Sure it might be mainstream, but people seem to think everything mainstream is a bad thing. That only good music comes from people you've never heard of. That's not true at all.

It's more skill and not talent. These pop stars have some skill in their vocals and intrument playing. But they have next to no talent. Real music isn't about cliché lyrics with redundant simplistic generic music structures and catchy chorus's. It's about making music an art forum, expressing something deep, timeless. Lady Gaga and all these pop stars are fads singing about fads or pointless random lyrics. Everything is so chessy. They only get famous because they have decent voices and have catchy mainstream songs. In 10 years when you listen back on Lady Gaga it'll sound sooo bad and soo last decade. But when you listen to real musicians like Jeff Buckley their music is forever. It's simply the real deal.
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#141 BuryMe
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[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="Mega-Mustaine"]

What? This specific version? Or that autotune-ridden version that all the kiddies eat up?

Mega-Mustaine

there's no autotune...it's just a faster beat

I hope you're kidding... Lady Gaga most definitely uses autotune. The fact that she's a very prominent figure for using it doesn't help your arguement.

She does ise autotune for some songs, but I didn't notice anything in the album version of Edge of Glory.

In fact, I haven't heard all of born this way yet, but I think most songs don't use it for the for any main vocals.

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#142 BuryMe
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[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"] yes... if they were, why would people still make acoustic pianos?megagene
Good point. But I'm pretty sure there are Keyboards that have Piano settings that sound identical to a good ol' Grand Piano

There are not. Even the best most expensive keyboard cannot capture the tone and subtle nuances of a real piano. To say that it can, is frankly, outrageous.

Yes.

There's a difference between recreating the pitch and the note, which a keyboard can do, and recreating the overall sound of the insrument

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She is awesome, her new album is one of the best albums I have ever heard.
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#144 parkurtommo
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I thought it would be ke$ha...

It is anyways :x

I think lady gaga has a great voice but need to stop acting so gay :x

How can a woman be a gay man? I don't know, she just is...

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#145 PerfectCircles
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I love the live performances of Edge of Glory. It's one of my favorite songs of hers.
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[QUOTE="UCF_Knight"]Surprised she hasn't quit her job at the post office yet, since you know.. she's still a male lady. JustPlainLucas
Bad Meets Evil. Love it.

shes a women... 100%.. I know..

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#147 Apocalypse33
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[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="Mega-Mustaine"]

Sadly, this is true. However, if Gaga made more music like this, I would might actually start listening to her stuff. I mean, the only thing bad about this song is the lyrics, really.

Of course, like you said, this kind of music does not sell. Anyone who's been alive for 10+ years should realize this.

Bloodseeker23

this is her single right now lol

And is that really obama on your sig? I think thats very awesome hahaha

lol no it's not, it's baracka flocka flame

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#148 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="meconate"]Pfft! I could hear the autotune straight away! [spoiler] I'm joking! :P [/spoiler]

You better be!:evil:
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#149 Michael0134567
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Edge of Glory was a boring song.

Although she looks hot in it.

Lto_thaG

Disagree and then agree :P.

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#150 Michael0134567
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She's a fantastic singer, but she also knows her GaGa persona will sell albums. Like people have said, a nice voice isn't good enough these days.

yokofox33

Which is kinda unfortunate.