If you're born blind and deaf...

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#51 Dr_Yeezy_3000
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[QUOTE="Dr_Yeezy_3000"]

[QUOTE="CammiTac"]

Yes, again,I know. :P

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then why are you bringing up your friend who was not born blind and deaf and is still not completely blind and deaf and saying how he is one of the smartest people you met? hes irrelevant in this context

The person that I referred to as the smartest person I know, WAS born completely blind and deaf. I was just saying that a lot of deafblind individuals weren't born deafblind, but rather became deafblind later in life. And that some people considered deafblind actually have a little bit of residual hearing or sight left.

Sorry, I sometimes am not the best at written word and can be confusing.

cmon, no way is he anywhere close to the smartest person youve met if he was born completely deaf and blind, how can you even have an actual conversation with him? do you have to print up something in brail and then how does he communicate to you?

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#52 Dr_Yeezy_3000
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how would someone communicate if they were born blind and deaf? they couldnt even learn brail because theyre deaf and no one can teach them

i couldnt imagine living like that id probably commit suicide for real

Candy-Star

Someone obviously didn't read a very important book during high school

what book?

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#53 Dr_Yeezy_3000
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I don't think a deaf/blind person would be limited to understanding most things, even emotions.

Learning a touch-sign word for something would be no different to a deaf person learning a signed word. Once they understood the concept that everything they could feel - and thus 'see' or be aware of - had it's own seperate name then they'd be away.

And they would be able to feel their own tears when they were sad and their smile when they laughed and feel them on others too and so connect the idea of emotions and such. The only different would be that they would rely on touch as their main sense rather than sight or sound.

I think their life would definitely be somewhat limited, but not completely void of understanding, interaction or communication with others.

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they will be severly limited, for instance how could you teach them what irony is, or any type of science concepts? or even stuff like what an idiot is and what smart means

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#54 CammiTac
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[QUOTE="CammiTac"]

[QUOTE="Dr_Yeezy_3000"]then why are you bringing up your friend who was not born blind and deaf and is still not completely blind and deaf and saying how he is one of the smartest people you met? hes irrelevant in this context

Dr_Yeezy_3000

The person that I referred to as the smartest person I know, WAS born completely blind and deaf. I was just saying that a lot of deafblind individuals weren't born deafblind, but rather became deafblind later in life. And that some people considered deafblind actually have a little bit of residual hearing or sight left.

Sorry, I sometimes am not the best at written word and can be confusing.

cmon, no way is he anywhere close to the smartest person youve met if he was born completely deaf and blind, how can you even have an actual conversation with him? do you have to print up something in brail and then how does he communicate to you?


Tactile signing. Like I've already mentioned. And on instant chat on the computer (You probably don't know that they make braille displays and keyboards, which I think are quite cool). And he really is extremely smart. I'm not really sure why all of this is so hard for you to believe.

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#55 Former_Slacker
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You don't. Humans are naturally programmed to learn language but it can only be done through a certain age period which is sometime in your earlier years. If you're unable to do this, then you end up mentally disabled.

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#56 k2theswiss
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shoot me...
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#57 CammiTac
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You don't. Humans are naturally programmed to learn language but it can only be done through a certain age period which is sometime in your earlier years. If you're unable to do this, then you end up mentally disabled.

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But does thinking require language? That's something I'm actually really interested in.

And again, a deafblind individual can acquire language, it just isn't necessarily spoken.

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#58 Ghost_702
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If you were blind and deaf would you even want to live? What purpose would you serve?
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#59 CammiTac
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If you were blind and deaf would you even want to live? What purpose would you serve?Ghost_702

shoot me... k2theswiss

that sounds terrible would you be allowed to put that person down? i mean they arnt even living almost

akdiuuuryttt


You guys are sure a happy group. :P

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#60 Former_Slacker
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[QUOTE="Former_Slacker"]

You don't. Humans are naturally programmed to learn language but it can only be done through a certain age period which is sometime in your earlier years. If you're unable to do this, then you end up mentally disabled.

CammiTac

But does thinking require language? That's something I'm actually really interested in.

And again, a deafblind individual can acquire language, it just isn't necessarily spoken.

Yes, I'm no psychologist but I assume so.

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#61 Socijalisticka
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If you were blind and deaf would you even want to live? What purpose would you serve?Ghost_702
Being born blind & deaf isn't the same as becoming blind & deaf.
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#62 wis3boi
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...you ARE aware that hellen keller could write and talk, right? Blind and deaf from 19months, she could fully communicate with others as she learned how to.

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#63 Meat_Wad_Fan
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I've also wondered how the thinking process works in a deaf and blind person's mind. When I think it's usually an internal conversation, so I wonder how they picture sign language in their mind as they think, very interesting.

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#64 JasonDarksavior
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This is actually a pretty horrifying thread. Forever you will be in your own world if you are BOTH blind and death.
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#65 XileLord
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What if you were born blind, deaf and without any hands/feet or fingers or sense of smell?

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#66 Street_Runnaz
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No idea...
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#67 unrealtron
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I´d think with my toe.

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#68 wis3boi
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What if you were born blind, deaf and without any hands/feet or fingers or sense of smell?

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