[QUOTE="SpartanNapoleon"][QUOTE="guynamedbilly"] Just because a large number of people of a particular color are the main offenders of a law, doesn't mean that law was instated specifically to keep them down.The laws you mentioned about a black man voting or owning property were racist because the laws only kept down all people who were not white europeans. The laws regarding immigration are not race specific and would be the same for all people including white europeans, africans, hispanics, etc.
Just because you perceive the people enforcing a law might be racist(as in giving preferential treatment to an illegal white Canadian instead of an illegal Mexican for example) does not mean that the law is racist. The law is in fact, not racist but nationalistic, as all laws regarding international relations are...
In your support, this topic went off course and I caught the tail end of the diversion. I agree that the media will be racist, sexist, or otherwise if they can improve their ratings and profits. Freedom of speech isn't likely to be revoked to that degree any time soon though.
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Tell me how many raids there is on White Illegals? How many times do cops go around and arrests Whites hanging out by home depot for not having their papers at hand? This is racism. No question about it. It is racism when laws are made to target a particular group of people. Why is it illegal to give water to an illegal immigrant? Its because its better for a person to die of thirst crossing the dessert than to come to this country. Notice that there are no desserts between Canada and US. And why do you say that color has anything to do with crime? There are other reason's just because people are born of different races does not mean that they have a criminal mentality. I also studied that issue and race has nothing to do with it. Poverty does. Actually, there's some pretty nasty land around the manitoba/US border, on hwy 59, if I remember correctly. Not a very nice place. There aren't many raids on white illegals because there aren't all that many, especially in concentrated areas. It may be racial profiling by approaching a group and asking for their papers, but illegal immigration is commonplace, and it is an issue in American society. I would feel insulted, but at the same time, if I had worked hard to get legally immigrated into the country, I would make a point to differentiate myself. I'd make sure I could hash out basic sentences in English, to better communicate. I'd have proper ID on me at all times...heck, even as a white, Canadian citizen, I ALWAYS have full ID on me at all times. Just in case I need it. What really needs to happen is a denouncing of illegal immigrants from a prominent Mexican-American group. Support their rights as human beings as should be done anyways, but don't support them politically. Maybe I just see things differently because of my "white entitlement", and I suppose a case could be made for that, but in my eyes, if you live in a country respect it. There's a guy I used to go to high-school with who exploits loopholes in the welfare system and lives off it, jobless. Then there's the owner of a string of convenience stores in my town, who immigrated from Sri Lanka and worked his butt off and is a model citizen in the community. The "immigrant from Sri Lanka" is more Canadian than the high-school jerk who exploits the system, who is only a Canadian in writing. People who exploit the country they live in aren't respecting that county and thus aren't worthy of the benefits it bestows. People who work hard, are there legally, and attempt to be good citizens are worthy of those benefits and have respected the country, earning the respect of the country in return. Illegal immigrants are not in the country legally, and no matter the financial outcome, are exploiting the system. There are many white Mexicans and it has become a common miscomception that Mexicans only have brown skin. The part where I come from is populated mainly with only white Mexicans. The state of Jalisco is like that. And many people from the town that I come from have emigrated here in many cases illegaly. So much so that I have meet up with them here in the US. So there is a huge white population that is illegal here in the US but because of their color they go unnoticed. For example a family member whose parents did not fix his papers like they did for the rest of his family came here illegaly. He was stopped many times by the police for speeding but he was never asked for papers. In constrast other non white people that I know have been constantly asked for papers. Of course this is personal experience but it does seem to fit reality. It has been shown in many studies contribute tremendesly to the country. It can be estimated that for every 11 dollars they pay in taxes they only use 1 in social services. And the contributions to social security is also immense since they can never get any money invested into to. So no they are not exploiting the system. Maybe a few percentage but illegals are less likely to exploit the system than legal residents. Which also makes sense.
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