im against g@y marriage..

..does that make me a bad person?..

i dont think so..

but before you all go "AHHHH HOMOPHOBE OMG OMG OMG!!!"..let me explain why..

first of all..theres a reason why marriage is between a man & a woman..if 2 dudes or 2 ladies can some how have a kid together..(& i dont mean any of this adoption BS)..then by all means..let them have the same benefits..but last i checked..it is impossible for g@y couples to reproduce.

Another thing..if you legalize g@y marriage..then that would open the door for all sorts of weird fetishes..it would only be a matter of time before people start raising crap about wanting to marry their farm animals..

who wants to debate me?

..does that make me a bad person?..

i dont think so..

but before you all go "AHHHH HOMOPHOBE OMG OMG OMG!!!"..let me explain why..

first of all..theres a reason why marriage is between a man & a woman..if 2 dudes or 2 ladies can some how have a kid together..(& i dont mean any of this adoption BS)..then by all means..let them have the same benefits..but last i checked..it is impossible for g@y couples to reproduce.

Another thing..if you legalize g@y marriage..then that would open the door for all sorts of weird fetishes..it would only be a matter of time before people start raising crap about wanting to marry their farm animals..

who wants to debate me?

SouthernPride10

Married couples don't have to have children...

/you fail.

Actually now a days G@y couples CAN Have Kids. Its called Artificial Insemenation.

But I bet your against that too ;)

you saying "i dont like gay marriage" and mix that eith your name "Southernpride" makes me not like you...Self_indulgence

gee..youre judging by my username instead of debating..hmm..ok

What if a man, or a woman, is sterile for whatever reason.

Should he/she not be allowed to marry?

marriage isnt about having children... :|Beaman

Its about getting a divorce and drinking yourself to sleep

Actually now a days G@y couples CAN Have Kids. Its called Artificial Insemenation.

But I bet your against that too ;)

nintenboy9128

i should have rephrased it..if they can have kids NATURALLY together without artificial insemenation..then let them have the same benefits..

Also another thing..dont pull the "why cant g@y couples be happy too?.."..its pure rubish & holds no ground whatsoever

[QUOTE="Self_indulgence"]you saying "i dont like gay marriage" and mix that eith your name "Southernpride" makes me not like you...SouthernPride10

gee..youre judging by my username instead of debating..hmm..ok

[QUOTE="nintenboy9128"]

Actually now a days G@y couples CAN Have Kids. Its called Artificial Insemenation.

But I bet your against that too ;)

SouthernPride10

i should have rephrased it..if they can have kids NATURALLY together without artificial insemenation..then let them have the same benefits..

Also another thing..dont pull the "why cant g@y couples be happy too?.."..its pure rubish & holds no ground whatsoever

...so in your opinion a straight brother and sister that can reproduce can get married to each other? I like your way of thinking8)SympathyForLdyV

incest is illegal too...

[QUOTE="nintenboy9128"]

Actually now a days G@y couples CAN Have Kids. Its called Artificial Insemenation.

But I bet your against that too ;)

SouthernPride10

i should have rephrased it..if they can have kids NATURALLY together without artificial insemenation..then let them have the same benefits..

Also another thing..dont pull the "why cant g@y couples be happy too?.."..its pure rubish & holds no ground whatsoever

You're still avoiding the fact that marriage is not about children.

[QUOTE="nintenboy9128"]

Actually now a days G@y couples CAN Have Kids. Its called Artificial Insemenation.

But I bet your against that too ;)

SouthernPride10

i should have rephrased it..if they can have kids NATURALLY together without artificial insemenation..then let them have the same benefits..

Also another thing..dont pull the "why cant g@y couples be happy too?.."..its pure rubish & holds no ground whatsoever

...so in your opinion a straight brother and sister that can reproduce can get married to each other? I like your way of thinking8)SympathyForLdyV

..does that make me a bad person?..

i dont think so..

but before you all go "AHHHH HOMOPHOBE OMG OMG OMG!!!"..let me explain why..

first of all..theres a reason why marriage is between a man & a woman..if 2 dudes or 2 ladies can some how have a kid together..(& i dont mean any of this adoption BS)..then by all means..let them have the same benefits..but last i checked..it is impossible for g@y couples to reproduce.

Another thing..if you legalize g@y marriage..then that would open the door for all sorts of weird fetishes..it would only be a matter of time before people start raising crap about wanting to marry their farm animals..

who wants to debate me?

SouthernPride10

1) Farm animals can't say "I do." Farm animals and cantaloupes cannot consent to marriage, while gay people can.

2) If the standard by which marriage should be allowed is whether or not the union can result in the creation of offspring by those two people, does that mean that you oppose heterosexual marriages in which one or both partners is sterile? As in, if my wife got in a car wreck and was severely injured and had to have her uterus removed, does that mean that she should never be allowed to marry ANYONE?

whoop dee do..i dont care what gay couples do in their spare time..they can go off & have a gay festival..i dont care.

Its the fact that youre trying to say something is right when the great majority of the world knows its morally wrong. Now dont get me wrong..Im not going to picket outside some gay couples house & protest..i simply dont care. The thing that pisses me off is when gay couple receive marriage benefits..when it comes down to it..it has to do with $$$. Why should they get the same benefits as a straight couplethat has 8 kids?

[QUOTE="SympathyForLdyV"]...so in your opinion a straight brother and sister that can reproduce can get married to each other? I like your way of thinking8)SouthernPride10

incest is illegal too...

Even if it is illegal why would you discrimnate them? They follow all of your guidlines for a marriage...

[QUOTE="SouthernPride10"]

..does that make me a bad person?..

i dont think so..

but before you all go "AHHHH HOMOPHOBE OMG OMG OMG!!!"..let me explain why..

first of all..theres a reason why marriage is between a man & a woman..if 2 dudes or 2 ladies can some how have a kid together..(& i dont mean any of this adoption BS)..then by all means..let them have the same benefits..but last i checked..it is impossible for g@y couples to reproduce.

Another thing..if you legalize g@y marriage..then that would open the door for all sorts of weird fetishes..it would only be a matter of time before people start raising crap about wanting to marry their farm animals..

who wants to debate me?

MrGeezer

1) Farm animals can't say "I do." Farm animals and cantaloupes cannot consent to marriage, while gay people can.

2) If the standard by which marriage should be allowed is whether or not the union can result in the creation of offspring by those two people, does that mean that you oppose heterosexual marriages in which one or both partners is sterile? As in, if my wife got in a car wreck and was severely injured and had to have her uterus removed, does that mean that she should never be allowed to marry ANYONE?

i would like to point out that you said your wife, cant marry anyone else :P

people of any gender and number can live together in any kind of relationship that makes 'em happy. the state should not recognize any kind of marriage, though. that's really just a religious or personal matter.giton

Exactly. I assumed the tax benefits for marriage were there to promote population growth. That's not really necessary anymore.

whoop dee do..i dont care what gay couples do in their spare time..they can go off & have a gay festival..i dont care.

Its the fact that youre trying to say something is right when the great majority of the world knows its morally wrong. Now dont get me wrong..Im not going to picket outside some gay couples house & protest..i simply dont care. The thing that pisses me off is when gay couple receive marriage benefits..when it comes down to it..it has to do with $$$. Why should they get the same benefits as a straight couplethat has 8 kids?

SouthernPride10

[QUOTE="SouthernPride10"]

[QUOTE="SympathyForLdyV"]...so in your opinion a straight brother and sister that can reproduce can get married to each other? I like your way of thinking8)SympathyForLdyV

incest is illegal too...

Even if it is illegal why would you discrimnate them? They follow all of your guidlines for a marriage...

geez..does the word "illegal" mean anything anymore?

last i checked..if you do something illegal in the US, you face criminal penalty under the Constitution

whoop dee do..i dont care what gay couples do in their spare time..they can go off & have a gay festival..i dont care.

Its the fact that youre trying to say something is right when the great majority of the world knows its morally wrong. Now dont get me wrong..Im not going to picket outside some gay couples house & protest..i simply dont care. The thing that pisses me off is when gay couple receive marriage benefits..when it comes down to it..it has to do with $$$. Why should they get the same benefits as a straight couplethat has 8 kids?

SouthernPride10

Ok tell me why they shouldn't. If you said these things to me IRL I'd seriously punch you in the face, and I'm not even gay

whoop dee do..i dont care what gay couples do in their spare time..they can go off & have a gay festival..i dont care.

Its the fact that youre trying to say something is right when the great majority of the world knows its morally wrong. Now dont get me wrong..Im not going to picket outside some gay couples house & protest..i simply dont care. The thing that pisses me off is when gay couple receive marriage benefits..when it comes down to it..it has to do with $$$. Why should they get the same benefits as a straight couplethat has 8 kids?

SouthernPride10

..does that make me a bad person?..

i dont think so..

but before you all go "AHHHH HOMOPHOBE OMG OMG OMG!!!"..let me explain why..

first of all..theres a reason why marriage is between a man & a woman..if 2 dudes or 2 ladies can some how have a kid together..(& i dont mean any of this adoption BS)..then by all means..let them have the same benefits..but last i checked..it is impossible for g@y couples to reproduce.

Another thing..if you legalize g@y marriage..then that would open the door for all sorts of weird fetishes..it would only be a matter of time before people start raising crap about wanting to marry their farm animals..

who wants to debate me?

SouthernPride10

farm animals can't provide consent for marriage

heterosexual couples do not always have kids

[QUOTE="SympathyForLdyV"][QUOTE="SouthernPride10"]

[QUOTE="SympathyForLdyV"]...so in your opinion a straight brother and sister that can reproduce can get married to each other? I like your way of thinking8)SouthernPride10

incest is illegal too...

Even if it is illegal why would you discrimnate them? They follow all of your guidlines for a marriage...

geez..does the word "illegal" mean anything anymore?

last i checked..if you do something illegal in the US, you face criminal penalty under the Constitution

Is it possible to get illegaly married? :?

I'm against Gay Marriage simply because it is not right!

A marriage is between a man and a women, Husband and wife. Thats what a marriage means, not have two of the same sexes, it would totally ruin the word marriage.

Another reason, Marriage, you want kids, you cant if you are a homosexual (you can adopt, but most want a kid of there own, same bloodline).

I agree with South Park, they should be called "Butt Buddies" \

first of all..theres a reason why marriage is between a man & a woman..if 2 dudes or 2 ladies can some how have a kid together..(& i dont mean any of this adoption BS)..then by all means..let them have the same benefits..but last i checked..it is impossible for g@y couples to reproduce.

Infertile couples can't have children either, guess they shouldn't be allowed to marry.

Another thing..if you legalize g@y marriage..then that would open the door for all sorts of weird fetishes..it would only be a matter of time before people start raising crap about wanting to marry their farm animals..

How can you go from letting two consenting same sex adults get married to letting people get married to an unconsenting goat?

SouthernPride10

I'm against Gay Marriage simply because it is not right!

A marriage is between a man and a women, Husband and wife. Thats what a marriage means, not have two of the same sexes, it would totally ruin the word marriage.

Another reason, Marriage, you want kids, you cant if you are a homosexual (you can adopt, but most want a kid of there own, same bloodline).

I agree with South Park, they should be called "Butt Buddies" \

CWEBB04z

Thank you!

someone agrees with me

I agree with South Park, they should be called "Butt Buddies" \

CWEBB04z

Wow, you totally missed the point of that south park episode. Are you too young to understand satire?

I'm against Gay Marriage simply because it is not right!

A marriage is between a man and a women, Husband and wife. Thats what a marriage means, not have two of the same sexes, it would totally ruin the word marriage.

Another reason, Marriage, you want kids, you cant if you are a homosexual (you can adopt, but most want a kid of there own, same bloodline).

I agree with South Park, they should be called "Butt Buddies" \

CWEBB04z

..does that make me a bad person?..

i dont think so..

but before you all go "AHHHH HOMOPHOBE OMG OMG OMG!!!"..let me explain why..

first of all..theres a reason why marriage is between a man & a woman..if 2 dudes or 2 ladies can some how have a kid together..(& i dont mean any of this adoption BS)..then by all means..let them have the same benefits..but last i checked..it is impossible for g@y couples to reproduce.

Another thing..if you legalize g@y marriage..then that would open the door for all sorts of weird fetishes..it would only be a matter of time before people start raising crap about wanting to marry their farm animals..

who wants to debate me?

SouthernPride10

Not a bad person. Just one who has a certain set of beliefs.

I just want to raise some ideas here:

-Why is the ability to have a child necessary? I know many married couples who don't have any, and a few un-married ones who do. I don't see much of a difference, other than potential religious based reasoning.

-Legalizing g@y marriage may provoke other various forms of marriage to ask for legality and respectability in the face of the law. Polygamy would likely pass, but your farm animal scenari wouldn't hold up. I mean, farm animals can't consent. There's an age of consent among humans in various areas of the world, and in the USA there are state-specific standards on that kind of stuff, so no minors would be married. So basically forms of marriage involving adults...not too bad.

-Artificial insemination is possible in this day and age, so gay/lesbian couples COULD have children, in a roundabout way.

-People would likely be wrong to call you a homophobe. You don't sound scared of g@y people in this post, nor do you seem to harbor some kind of hatred for them.

I personally think something like this: http://www.justice.gc.ca/en/news/nr/2005/doc_31376.html is what should happen, but that's just my beliefs.

I personally don't see what reasoning, other than religious, could seriously keep marriage from allowing same sex couples. Legally, I don't see what the hold-up is. Then again, I live in Canada, and not the USA, so I don't know everything that goes on down there(though I do read a fair amount of American news on politics and whatnot).

Really, I'm sure things will be fleshed out once I post this......yeah, probably.

I'm against Gay Marriage simply because it is not right!

A marriage is between a man and a women, Husband and wife. Thats what a marriage means, not have two of the same sexes, it would totally ruin the word marriage.

CWEBB04z

Also, Southern Pride and CWEB, you still have not adressed the fact that marriage is not about having children.the_leet_kid

uhh..yes it is..

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

I'm against Gay Marriage simply because it is not right!

A marriage is between a man and a women, Husband and wife. Thats what a marriage means, not have two of the same sexes, it would totally ruin the word marriage.

Another reason, Marriage, you want kids, you cant if you are a homosexual (you can adopt, but most want a kid of there own, same bloodline).

I agree with South Park, they should be called "Butt Buddies" \

SouthernPride10

Thank you!

someone agrees with me

actually he just copied exactly what you said, except without aimlessly talking about animals :|

[QUOTE="the_leet_kid"]Also, Southern Pride and CWEB, you still have not adressed the fact that marriage is not about having children.SouthernPride10

uhh..yes it is..

.......

..does that make me a bad person?..

i dont think so..

but before you all go "AHHHH HOMOPHOBE OMG OMG OMG!!!"..let me explain why..

first of all..theres a reason why marriage is between a man & a woman..if 2 dudes or 2 ladies can some how have a kid together..(& i dont mean any of this adoption BS)..then by all means..let them have the same benefits..but last i checked..it is impossible for g@y couples to reproduce.

Another thing..if you legalize g@y marriage..then that would open the door for all sorts of weird fetishes..it would only be a matter of time before people start raising crap about wanting to marry their farm animals..

who wants to debate me?

SouthernPride10

No, it doesn't make you a bad person. Homosexuality is a sin, always has been, and always will be. However, you should hate the sin and love the sinner, so as long as you don't judge someone on his sexuality, you're not a bad person.