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#51 Twilight_King
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[QUOTE="supa_badman"][QUOTE="Wolls"] Well shouldnt we treat animals accordinly then. People should be punished harder than animals cos people can actually understand that there doing wrong. Animals very rearly attack people because they hate people, they do it because they feel scared and cornered.Wolls
For lack of a better word, animals are nothing in comparison to humans. Human life is much more valuable than something you can usually pick up at a store for a couple of bucks. Although, animals can become attached, they can't grow and mature and do as much a human can. As well, you seem to forget the rabid animals, as is usually the case with animals being put down.

Well thats your opinion, peronally id be devistated if my dog died and consider her just as important as any other member of the family.

Yes I would be sad if my dog died as well, but I would save my family from a fire before I would save my dog. I am sensing that you would rather have your family die then have your dog die.

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#52 Rikardur
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[QUOTE="StudySession"]

What I really hate is when people get their dogs put down because its too old or they don't like it anymore and want a new one.

LZ71
I've had cats put down when they get too old.....why have the animal spend it's last few years suffering and in pain?

Why have your grandmother spend her last years suffering and in pain?
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#53 Lethalhazard
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Wow, I'm surprised this thread isn't being flamed. I've tried to debate similar arguments in the past on forum boards, and people invaded the topic talking about how they loved meat. Makes no sense... Anyway, I think it's a tad ridiculous to put an animal down because it attacked someone. The animal should just be relocated, it's not hard. Unless the animal has rabies :P.
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#54 supa_badman
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[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"]Wow, I'm surprised this thread isn't being flamed. I've tried to debate similar arguments in the past on forum boards, and people invaded the topic talking about how they loved meat. Makes no sense...

I'm sorry I was doing it wrong :cry:
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#55 ShuichiChamp24
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[QUOTE="Wolls"][QUOTE="supa_badman"] For lack of a better word, animals are nothing in comparison to humans. Human life is much more valuable than something you can usually pick up at a store for a couple of bucks. Although, animals can become attached, they can't grow and mature and do as much a human can. As well, you seem to forget the rabid animals, as is usually the case with animals being put down.enterawesome
Well thats your opinion, peronally id be devistated if my dog died and consider her just as important as any other member of the family.

Your mother or you dog. One dies, one survives. Who do you pick?

Is it a bad thing if I say my dog? :|

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#56 StudySession
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[QUOTE="LZ71"][QUOTE="StudySession"]

What I really hate is when people get their dogs put down because its too old or they don't like it anymore and want a new one.

Rikardur

I've had cats put down when they get too old.....why have the animal spend it's last few years suffering and in pain?

Why have your grandmother spend her last years suffering and in pain?

Perhaps we should be able to kill terminally ill people if they wish to die.

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#57 Got_to_go
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[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"]Wow, I'm surprised this thread isn't being flamed. I've tried to debate similar arguments in the past on forum boards, and people invaded the topic talking about how they loved meat. Makes no sense... Anyway, I think it's a tad ridiculous to put an animal down because it attacked someone. The animal should just be relocated, it's not hard. Unless the animal has rabies :P.

Is this better?
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#58 MgamerBD
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What I really hate is when people get their dogs put down because its too old or they don't like it anymore and want a new one.

StudySession
People do that :?. I only did that to my cat because it was suffering and me and my family felt bad. We had to put her out if her misery.
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#59 Brainkiller05
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I tried to spin my dog around in circles on the wooden floor and he growled at me... so I tried to spin him again and he went nuts, I still have a scar on my hand :P was my fault
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#60 Lethalhazard
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[QUOTE="Got_to_go"][QUOTE="Lethalhazard"]Wow, I'm surprised this thread isn't being flamed. I've tried to debate similar arguments in the past on forum boards, and people invaded the topic talking about how they loved meat. Makes no sense... Anyway, I think it's a tad ridiculous to put an animal down because it attacked someone. The animal should just be relocated, it's not hard. Unless the animal has rabies :P.

Is this better?

That's MAH boy!
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#61 StudySession
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I tried to spin my dog around in circles on the wooden floor and he growled at me... so I tried to spin him again and he went nuts, I still have a scar on my hand :P was my fault Brainkiller05

Haha I have done that too. Hilarious, but the dog was not too happy.

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#62 enterawesome
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[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="Wolls"] Well thats your opinion, peronally id be devistated if my dog died and consider her just as important as any other member of the family. ShuichiChamp24

Your mother or you dog. One dies, one survives. Who do you pick?

Is it a bad thing if I say my dog? :|

Well its pretty damn disturbing, and if so, I've lost more faith in humanity.
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#63 avatar_genius
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Survival of the fitest. ;)

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Pretty easy to say when you ARE the fittest.
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#64 mrbojangles25
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Lets say a dog bites a man on the street, the man might be ok but what if that dog then attacks a small child then there is a much higher risk of injury or what ever. In my eyes you cant take that kind of risk so the animal should be put down.

dan-rofl-copter

exactly.

it has nothing to do with ethics, morals, or even worth.

what is the issue, however, is an animals learning capacity. if a dog bites a person and there are no consequences, the dog will conclude that it is ok to bite people. The dog will bite another person.

While I admit that killing a smaller dog because it bit someone is a bit extreme, on larger dogs I cannot help but see this as a necessity. If a dog bites a person, there must be negative consequences for that dog. Not out of principle, but entirely out of practicality.

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#65 ProtestTheJOEL
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"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." (Genesis 1:26, in context) -that being said I dont believe in cruelty to animals in any way
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#66 Maqda7
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WHY DO PEOPLE THINK ANIMALS SHOULD BE AT THE SAME LEVEL AS US? Bloody hell people, we are clearly superior beings than animals and you should never ever compare interactions of animals with humans.
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#67 hamstergeddon
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Survival of the fitest. ;)

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that doesn't even make sense. You can't just toss around scientific phrases and expect to be regarded as "smart"
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#68 mrbojangles25
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WHY DO PEOPLE THINK ANIMALS SHOULD BE AT THE SAME LEVEL AS US? Bloody hell people, we are clearly superior beings than animals and you should never ever compare interactions of animals with humans. Maqda7

I agree. I cant help but view people that see animals as equal to humans as not being able to think rationally.

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#69 Cantius
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[QUOTE="cee1gee"]

getting sick of humans and how they think they are all kings and queens

and how they treat animals.....

i heard a few storys where dogs bit a person and they had to be put down..and im not even talking big dogs..medium size!

but guys like mike vick killed probably 100s of dogs and hes back in the nfl and the fans are probly still gonna love him

even a human doesnt get a death sentence when they kill someone (most of the time)

but animals 1 little bite and they are sentenced to death

it makes me sick.......

what do you think?

Yeah but, what are you going to do?
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#70 Rob-Belmont
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It's a sad prospect, but oh well.

Better them than us.

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#71 JPOBS
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thats what those dogs get for lagging behind in the evolutionary chain.
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#72 Setsa
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To be honest, the vast majority of the time it's the human's or owners fault, people are just too smug to admit to making an error on their behalf. It really is disgusting.
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#73 ajarbuckle
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It depends if it was a provoked or unprovoked attack in my opinion.
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#74 Theokhoth
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I think it's perfectly fine to kill a mindless animal if it shows itself to be a threat to people, who, unlike animals, are important.

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#75 Ragnarok1051
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Why are people putting the needs of animals before humans? Animals are just that animals. Humans are responsible for the luxuries you enjoy today. I'm not saying mistreat animals but you have to be realistic here. Humans are much bigger priorities than animals.

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#76 D3nnyCrane
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[QUOTE="Maqda7"]WHY DO PEOPLE THINK ANIMALS SHOULD BE AT THE SAME LEVEL AS US? Bloody hell people, we are clearly superior beings than animals and you should never ever compare interactions of animals with humans. mrbojangles25

I agree. I cant help but view people that see animals as equal to humans as not being able to think rationally.

I too share this rage. Unless PETA can find prepare a human better than Lone Star can prepare a rib-eye steak, humanity is always priority over animals.
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#77 muller39
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Humans are vile.

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#78 SolidSnake35
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I think it's perfectly fine to kill a mindless animal if it shows itself to be a threat to people, who, unlike animals, are important.

Theokhoth
Animals aren't mindless. Their life is as valuable to them as ours to us.
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#79 SolidSnake35
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WHY DO PEOPLE THINK ANIMALS SHOULD BE AT THE SAME LEVEL AS US? Bloody hell people, we are clearly superior beings than animals and you should never ever compare interactions of animals with humansMaqda7
If we're so superior why are we so lacking in compassion? The way we assert our dominance over other animals puts us right in the same league as them.
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#80 Teenaged
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Why are people putting the needs of animals before humans? Animals are just that animals. Humans are responsible for the luxuries you enjoy today. I'm not saying mistreat animals but you have to be realistic here. Humans are much bigger priorities than animals.

Ragnarok1051

I see.

So you are completely of no need of any animal product (milk, honey, meat etc) and to top that you are absolutely certain that animals can just disapear from the face of the earth and you would still survive.

:|

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#81 Guntrix7
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Pfft. Humans are so overrated. :roll:

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#82 Fandangle
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getting sick of humans and how they think they are all kings and queens

and how they treat animals.....

i heard a few storys where dogs bit a person and they had to be put down..and im not even talking big dogs..medium size!

but guys like mike vick killed probably 100s of dogs and hes back in the nfl and the fans are probly still gonna love him

even a human doesnt get a death sentence when they kill someone (most of the time)

but animals 1 little bite and they are sentenced to death

it makes me sick.......

what do you think?

cee1gee

I think you should blog it

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#83 Paladin_King
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I think that dogs do not equal humans, unfortunately. Death penalty for a dog is nowhere near the significance of a death penalty for a human. If you cannot understand this basic point, I'm sure you'll find these people great company
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#84 Doom_HellKnight
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If the human aggravates an animal, the animal will retaliate, so it's the little a-hole's fault for annoying it in the first place. If it's an unprovoked attack though, I can see where everyone in the thread is coming from. The chances are, the animal will attack again if it did so the first time.

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#85 nalhutta94
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What I really hate is when people get their dogs put down because its too old or they don't like it anymore and want a new one.

StudySession
Well, that's not usually the case. When the dogs get too old they can be in a lot of pain, that why they put them down, not because they're not new anymore.
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#86 ChaelaMcchubble
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I think dogs that bite are dangerous. They should be put down but so should bad people like Vick

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#87 viewtiful26
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It used to be worse. If you read "To Kill a Mockingbird", you'd see that the only cure for a dog with rabies was a rifle. :|
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#88 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

Why are people putting the needs of animals before humans? Animals are just that animals. Humans are responsible for the luxuries you enjoy today. I'm not saying mistreat animals but you have to be realistic here. Humans are much bigger priorities than animals.

Teenaged

I see.

So you are completely of no need of any animal product (milk, honey, meat etc) and to top that you are absolutely certain that animals can just disapear from the face of the earth and you would still survive.

:|

Of course we need some animals to survive. I'm saying though that we don't need to put animals on the same pedestal as humans.
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#89 LJS9502_basic
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Dogs are only put down when they show a pattern of attacks. Which means they are a danger.
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#90 avatar_genius
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Dogs are only put down when they show a pattern of attacks. Which means they are a danger.LJS9502_basic

Can the same be applied to a human?

and holy crap, you're almost at 80,000 posts :o

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#91 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Dogs are only put down when they show a pattern of attacks. Which means they are a danger.avatar_genius

Can the same be applied to a human?

Only in death penalty states.....

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#92 enterawesome
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[QUOTE="Maqda7"]WHY DO PEOPLE THINK ANIMALS SHOULD BE AT THE SAME LEVEL AS US? Bloody hell people, we are clearly superior beings than animals and you should never ever compare interactions of animals with humansSolidSnake35
If we're so superior why are we so lacking in compassion? The way we assert our dominance over other animals puts us right in the same league as them.

Animals do not have souls, nor any compassion themselves. Their goal is to survive. For humans, its broader than that. I for one, want to graduate from MIT. You might want to go out with Emma Watson. Obama aspires for change. We have feelings, animals don't. The only animal I've ever seen with real, genuine feelings, and perhaps even a soul, are dogs. Dogs are amazing, and are, in most cases, just as deserving of life as we are.
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#93 Mogotoo
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getting sick of humans and how they think they are all kings and queens..... and how they treat animals. Iheard a few storys where dogs bit a person and they had to be put down..and im not even talking big dogs..medium size!cee1gee

Just because a dog is small doesn't mean they're dangerous. I had a dog who got put down not too long ago. He wasn't that big, either. A Jack Russel/Border Collie.Over his life, he had snapped at strangers before, evenbitten me and my family.One evening, he bit the hand of a family friend of mine. The bite was so bad that the friend had to go to the hospital. I think things get bad when the hospital finds out about it. They gave my family a warning; one more bite like that, and the dog must be put down. My family realized that our dog was simply too dangerous.

but guys like mike vick killed probably 100s of dogs and hes back in the nfl and the fans are probly still gonna love himcee1gee

Can't argue here. Sure, some dogs are simply too dangerous to be around, but stuff like that truly is sickening.

even a human doesnt get a death sentence when they kill someone (most of the time) but animals 1 little bite and they are sentenced to deathcee1gee

Humans can talk to each other. We can teach each other things way easier than animals. Sure, humans kill, but they have moral values. When it comes to animals, it gets far more complicated. Dogs simply don't understand our ways completely. We can give vocal commands, but a dog is still willing to attack a human to defend its territory. It's all about primal instincts.

I fully suuport alternative methods when it comes to danerous animals, but sometimes, there's just too many people who get hurt because of an animal.

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[QUOTE="StudySession"]

What I really hate is when people get their dogs put down because its too old or they don't like it anymore and want a new one.

nalhutta94

Well, that's not usually the case. When the dogs get too old they can be in a lot of pain, that why they put them down, not because they're not new anymore.

It's also because paying thousands to cure them will be useless because they will usually die in a matter of months or years depending on their life expectancy. Humans however, can live for much longer.

I think that humans should be able to choose to die though, if they have a disease that has become too much for them to live for. Their friends and families are usually to selfish, wanting them to live for as long as possible. Dogs should consider themselves lucky.

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#95 cee1gee
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[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"]Wow, I'm surprised this thread isn't being flamed. I've tried to debate similar arguments in the past on forum boards, and people invaded the topic talking about how they loved meat. Makes no sense... Anyway, I think it's a tad ridiculous to put an animal down because it attacked someone. The animal should just be relocated, it's not hard. Unless the animal has rabies :P.Got_to_go
Is this better?

um...you eat dogs?

im talking about harming animals for no reason

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#96 Leejjohno
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I believe that animals should be given fair chance... interpret that how you will.

There are a few people I have wanted to 'put down'; I can tell you that for free.

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#97 chAzN93
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its wrong...but i feel like people are making a huge to do about this... there are alot of people that participate in these things...but everyone is throwing it all at vick...gotta feel bad for him
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#98 XvX_Fear_XvX
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yeah that does not seem fair but we are the most advanced animal there is soo we kinda have to take charge a bit. We put dogs down if they bite to save other people from being hurt. Were not doing it to kill the dog but to protect other pppl