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#1 deactivated-5a79221380856
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Hi! How are you? It's been awhile since I've posted a thread, but I have a few thoughts my amateur brain would like to share.

Leftists are great as silencing the opposition by pegging them as forceful, racist, sexist, homophobic, or merciless. The Democratic Party is known as the party of compassion, but what they really are is the party of force. They want to force their values on you by implementing government-funded health care, abortion, and welfare programs. This goes against what Jesus taught! A true compassionate person, on Jesus's terms, would provide for the poor because he wanted to, not through the use of force. Leftists are generous with other people's money! Jesus was not exceptionally bright (Love your enemy? Really?), but at least he wasn't a tyrant. Jesus said, "Give to Ceasar's what is Ceasar's, but give to God's what is God's." The Bible also says that when you care for the poor, you are loving God. Jesus did not believe in thievery. This is why Jesus wanted people to give from their own wallet, not have the government take from theirs and give to the poor. Obviously, when the government is doing it for you, they are taking away your liberty!

As for race and sex, it's leftists exploiting miniorities and women. Leftists believe that ethnic miniorities can't care for themselves, which is why they think they need assistance from the government. On the issue of sex, leftists love to encourage women to be promiscuious when sex is a deeply personal act. And if you conceive a child? Oh, that's okay, kill him! They don't care how open they are with their sexuality. But what's funny is that they think religion should be private! What is this? Bizarro land! Religion asks the deepest questions that any individual should have to come across in order to evaluate his life, but leftists want to silence these questions in the name of political correctness. Also, leftists don't really believe in the separation of church and state. They want the state to control the church. By the way, the strongest women are in the Tea Party (Are there any strong women on the Left? Joy Behar! Ha! What a joke!), and the Left hates strong women, which is why they hate Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann! I can't believe they ruthlessly attack Palin's family! Family values are in the tank!

As for homosexuality, well, leftists have a point. Conservatives are unfair to homosexuals in that they don't allow them to have the same benefits as heterosexuals if they desire a relationship with a member of the same sex. However, many people on the Democratic Party, self-described leftists, are against same-sex marriage, the President being one (although he could be lying about his opposition to same-sex marriage, this is not new!)! Also, same-sex marriage should be recognized on the basis of sex, not sexuality, because any heterosexual should be allowed to enter a marriage with a member of the same sex! Sexuality does not determine rights!

Also, leftists love to play like society's ending for doing things like returning spending to levels when President Obama was inaugurated. What? That's extreme? Also, they love calling opposition to them names and they want civility! This is madness!

So, what do you think? Have I struck a chord or am I borderline insane? (Don't answer that last question, because the PC police on this board may moderate you if you answer honestly, because they can't handle the truth!) (I am borderline insane by the way.)

Obviously, I'm talking in generalities because that's what I'm best at. If you have specifics that you would like to use to prove or disprove my point, feel free to do so, but you don't need my permission. May nature bless you and your offspring and may reason unite us all to think alike, but achieve much in many different ways. All men. :)

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#2 worlock77
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I thought you were an atheist, why do you care what Jesus taught?

Oh, and by the way, there are no government funded abortions. You should probably get your facts straight before b****ing about something.

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#3 DroidPhysX
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The Democratic Party had a total of 10 years in the White House in the past 31 years. They are very dominating indeed.
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As for race and sex, it's leftists exploiting miniorities and women. Leftists believe that ethnic miniorities can't care for themselves, which is why they think they need assistance from the government.

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You're not serious. :|
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#5 Barbariser
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You seem to be an intelligent person so I'll consider this to be an unfunny attempt at political satire.

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#7 jak275
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You made some good points, but still overall a bit insane.
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They want to force their values on you by implementing government-funded health care, abortion, and welfare programs. This goes against what Jesus taught!

stopped reading after this, any argument based on a flying spaghetti mi monster is invalid.

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#9 DroidPhysX
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I can't believe they ruthlessly attack Palin's family! Family values are in the tank!

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Well she did emphasize family values while Bristol Palin was getting hammered by her boyfriend. Underage, unwed pregnant daughter. Not exactly what Palin had in mind.

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[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"]

I can't believe they ruthlessly attack Palin's family! Family values are in the tank!

DroidPhysX

Well she did emphasizefamily values while her daughter was getting hammered by her boyfriend. Underage, unwed pregnant daughter. Not exactly what Palin had in mind.

:lol: He makes it sound like that Republicans have never done this before..

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#11 Serraph105
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You seem to be an intelligent person so I'll consider this to be an unfunny attempt at political satire.

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You know what? I think I will do the same.
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#12 Nickprovs
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This goes against what Jesus taught!

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AWWWWWWWW. Please spare me what with the religous points and the like.

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lol ok

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I'm right wing, still not sure if serious.

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#15 ShuLordLiuPei
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People don't see that this isn't serious? It ends with "All men." :|

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I don't really know what I just read.
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#17 charlesdarwin55
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People don't see that this isn't serious? It ends with "All men." :|

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And it consists of:

Hi! How are you? It's been awhile since I've posted a thread, but I have a few thoughts my amateur brain would like to share. Leftists are great as silencing the opposition by pegging them as forceful, racist, sexist, homophobic, or merciless. The Democratic Party is known as the party of compassion, but what they really are is the party of force. They want to force their values on you by implementing government-funded health care, abortion, and welfare programs. This goes against what Jesus taught! A true compassionate person, on Jesus's terms, would provide for the poor because he wanted to, not through the use of force. Leftists are generous with other people's money! Jesus was not exceptionally bright (Love your enemy? Really?), but at least he wasn't a tyrant. Jesus said, "Give to Ceasar's what is Ceasar's, but give to God's what is God's." The Bible also says that when you care for the poor, you are loving God. Jesus did not believe in thievery. This is why Jesus wanted people to give from their own wallet, not have the government take from theirs and give to the poor. Obviously, when the government is doing it for you, they are taking away your liberty! As for race and sex, it's leftists exploiting miniorities and women. Leftists believe that ethnic miniorities can't care for themselves, which is why they think they need assistance from the government. On the issue of sex, leftists love to encourage women to be promiscuious when sex is a deeply personal act. And if you conceive a child? Oh, that's okay, kill him! They don't care how open they are with their sexuality. But what's funny is that they think religion should be private! What is this? Bizarro land! Religion asks the deepest questions that any individual should have to come across in order to evaluate his life, but leftists want to silence these questions in the name of political correctness. Also, leftists don't really believe in the separation of church and state. They want the state to control the church. By the way, the strongest women are in the Tea Party (Are there any strong women on the Left? Joy Behar! Ha! What a joke!), and the Left hates strong women, which is why they hate Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann! I can't believe they ruthlessly attack Palin's family! Family values are in the tank! As for homosexuality, well, leftists have a point. Conservatives are unfair to homosexuals in that they don't allow them to have the same benefits as heterosexuals if they desire a relationship with a member of the same sex. However, many people on the Democratic Party, self-described leftists, are against same-sex marriage, the President being one (although he could be lying about his opposition to same-sex marriage, this is not new!)! Also, same-sex marriage should be recognized on the basis of sex, not sexuality, because any heterosexual should be allowed to enter a marriage with a member of the same sex! Sexuality does not determine rights! Also, leftists love to play like society's ending for doing things like returning spending to levels when President Obama was inaugurated. What? That's extreme? Also, they love calling opposition to them names and they want civility! This is madness! So, what do you think? Have I struck a chord or am I borderline insane? (Don't answer that last question, because the PC police on this board may moderate you if you answer honestly, because they can't handle the truth!) (I am borderline insane by the way.) Obviously, I'm talking in generalities because that's what I'm best at. If you have specifics that you would like to use to prove or disprove my point, feel free to do so, but you don't need my permission. May nature bless you and your offspring and may reason unite us all to think alike, but achieve much in many different ways. All men. :)

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*blinding wall of text*

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Good Lord, my eyes.

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You might well have some great points in there, but nobody's going to admit that because you've just managed, somehow, to piss off Christians, atheists, "leftists", mods and women. And I imagine you've probably just divided whoever's left. Weirdly enough, that could well make you OT's strongest uniting force. Congrats.
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#20 Harkat95
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TC, You'll like this abum:

Leftism by Leftfield

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#21 00-Riddick-00
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Heh.. Im pretty sure this was a troll. Since barely any of it makes sense.
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Hi! How are you? It's been awhile since I've posted a thread, but I have a few thoughts my amateur brain would like to share.

Leftists are great as silencing the opposition by pegging them as forceful, racist, sexist, homophobic, or merciless. The Democratic Party is known as the party of compassion, but what they really are is the party of force. They want to force their values on you by implementing government-funded health care, abortion, and welfare programs. This goes against what Jesus taught! A true compassionate person, on Jesus's terms, would provide for the poor because he wanted to, not through the use of force. Leftists are generous with other people's money! Jesus was not exceptionally bright (Love your enemy? Really?), but at least he wasn't a tyrant. Jesus said, "Give to Ceasar's what is Ceasar's, but give to God's what is God's." The Bible also says that when you care for the poor, you are loving God. Jesus did not believe in thievery. This is why Jesus wanted people to give from their own wallet, not have the government take from theirs and give to the poor. Obviously, when the government is doing it for you, they are taking away your liberty!

As for race and sex, it's leftists exploiting miniorities and women. Leftists believe that ethnic miniorities can't care for themselves, which is why they think they need assistance from the government. On the issue of sex, leftists love to encourage women to be promiscuious when sex is a deeply personal act. And if you conceive a child? Oh, that's okay, kill him! They don't care how open they are with their sexuality. But what's funny is that they think religion should be private! What is this? Bizarro land! Religion asks the deepest questions that any individual should have to come across in order to evaluate his life, but leftists want to silence these questions in the name of political correctness. Also, leftists don't really believe in the separation of church and state. They want the state to control the church. By the way, the strongest women are in the Tea Party (Are there any strong women on the Left? Joy Behar! Ha! What a joke!), and the Left hates strong women, which is why they hate Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann! I can't believe they ruthlessly attack Palin's family! Family values are in the tank!

As for homosexuality, well, leftists have a point. Conservatives are unfair to homosexuals in that they don't allow them to have the same benefits as heterosexuals if they desire a relationship with a member of the same sex. However, many people on the Democratic Party, self-described leftists, are against same-sex marriage, the President being one (although he could be lying about his opposition to same-sex marriage, this is not new!)! Also, same-sex marriage should be recognized on the basis of sex, not sexuality, because any heterosexual should be allowed to enter a marriage with a member of the same sex! Sexuality does not determine rights!

Also, leftists love to play like society's ending for doing things like returning spending to levels when President Obama was inaugurated. What? That's extreme? Also, they love calling opposition to them names and they want civility! This is madness!

So, what do you think? Have I struck a chord or am I borderline insane? (Don't answer that last question, because the PC police on this board may moderate you if you answer honestly, because they can't handle the truth!) (I am borderline insane by the way.)

Obviously, I'm talking in generalities because that's what I'm best at. If you have specifics that you would like to use to prove or disprove my point, feel free to do so, but you don't need my permission. May nature bless you and your offspring and may reason unite us all to think alike, but achieve much in many different ways. All men. :)

Genetic_Code

Stopped reading...

once you mix religion and politics. It's truly all over and no coming back...

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This goes against what Jesus taught!Genetic_Code
I stopped reading here. Obvious troll is obvious.
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#24 ShadowDeathX
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Accusing the Democratics of spreading their beliefs while arguing the point with your own religious beliefs. -.- Must be Uber Troll.

Last time I checked it was Republicans using government to impose their social beliefs upon us and taking away our freedoms. O well...

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Thanks, I needed a laugh. :lol:
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[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"]This goes against what Jesus taught!scorch-62
I stopped reading here. Obvious troll is obvious.

Liberals (whether Christian or not) love to say that what Jesus taught is compassion for the poor, which is true, but what liberals preach is the opposite of that. I only brought that up for that reason. I'm not being a troll. I am speaking genuinely in a light-hearted manner. You're only inferring my message as trollish for that reason. There is nothing wrong with mixing politics and religion by the way, since your views on life (what religion deals with) are ultimately going to effect your views on society (what politics deal with). The problem is when you interject your views on life on everyone else through society.
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You're talking in generalities because when you start talking in specifics it defeats your arguments. Case in point, liberals want to call people names, what names exactly? Right-wing pundits use words like pinhead all the time, words that are not objectively verifiable and are mant simply to bully. Olbermann and Schultz aside, because those two are hypocrites who for some reason decided to emulate such right-wing tactics, any "names" I've heard used on the left are merely descriptive terms.

Merciless may be debateable, but the rest I think are usually applied in an appropriate manner. Personally, I don't see how you can say homosexuals shouldn't have all the same rights as everyone else and still think you're not homophobic, but let's even do away with a simple stance on the issue. Those people aren't homophobic for the purposes of this discussion, but can you say the same about people who think that there should be some compulsory re-education school for homosexuals, or who think that schoolyard bulklying of homosexuals should be encouraged? THey're homophobic, there's no disputing that, and the conservative politicians and pundits of this country play into that hate for votes, I feel comfortable calling anyone who uses suchprejudices for electoral gain homophobic.

Racist is the one I think people dispute far more, and I think they're way off. Sure, race shouldn't be made an issue lackadasically, people shouldn't throw the term around anytime they disagree with someone. However, I think the trend in this country is going the opposite way, any time someone legitiamtely calls out someone else for being racist there's an extreme overreaction, as if any accusation of being a racist is completely unfounded. I think there are plenty of examples, however, of racist overtones with many prominent conservatives. Adnrew Breitbart is probably the best example I can think of, this man is a bona fide raciost and propagandist who has made it his personal mission to smear any and every liberal by any means possible and to try to recreate McCarthy-like hatred and suspicion against anyone on the political left. What happened to Shirley Sherrod was racist, period, and he ended up costing a woman her job because she happened to be a black liberal.

What most people try to argue against are the instances where they think it can be disputed, but how they think so is beyond me. Everyone knows the history of African-Americans being derisively protrayed as apes in this country, they were even considered a lesser species for a while. Given that, I don't know how anyone can think it's in good tastes to protray President Obama as an ape. Even if you still hold that it isn't racist, portraying him in a charicature that includes a lot of racial imagery such as wearing a grass skirt and other tribal garb definitely is racist. Furthermore, I think this birther issue is patently race-driven, no other president has come under this much scrutiny for something that has been disproven and debunked time and time again. Beyond that, the birther movement has now started accusing President Obama of being an affirmative action admission, and saying that he didn't earn his way through school, despite the fact that he graduated manga cum laude. If the birther issue itself isn't race-driven, then the turn it has taken most definitely is. Like the homophobic aspect, even if the issue itself isn't a matter of racism, the crowd it attracts and the willingness ofits ringleaders to play into racial prejudices turns the issue into one of racism.

Here we go again, it's government funded healthcare. One, no it's not. Government funded healthcare is what liberals pushed for before the debate started up, what we got after the debate was not by any stretch of the imagination government funded. What we got was a modified private healthcare industry where the overwhelming majority of health insurance is still going to be bought on the private market. Two, government funded healthcare is not forcing values on you, it's a cooperative venture. Healthcare itself is a cooperative venture, the people who don't use insurance very often pay for the people who do, and then when they need to use insurance more often they are paid for by the people who don't use it as often. Government funded healthcare is simply taking that same dynamic and moving it out of the for-profit realm so that corporations are not getting rich by actively DENYING healthcare to people who need it. That is why the left advocates for government run healthcare, because the point of the healthcare industry should be to provide healthcare, and when it's more profitable to deny people healthcare then the dynamic of the for-profit model in the industry has failed.

Of course looking at the government as an entity seperate from the people leads to the conclusion that taxation erodes liberty, however such an outlook is erroneous. Government is a mutually beneficial entity emanating from the people and given sovereignty by the social contract. Taxation is sued to facilitate programs that benefit memebers of all strata of society, and progressive taxation ensures that the burden is shared equally across all classes.

When do leftists encourage women to be promiscuous? I think it's more that if a woman wants to be promiscuous they celebrate it rather then villify her as society has done in the past. That's not ecnouraging promiscuity, that's simply being supportive of the lifestyle that an individual CHOOSES to live. Leftists are equally supportive of anyone's PERSONAL exposition of their faith, so long as they aren't conducting hate campaigns like that moron Fred Phelps. The left has never tried to silence religious opinions, and they don't want the state to control the church, I have no idea where you're getting that from. As for abortion, you can go around saying that liberals want to kill children when you can objectively prove that life begins at conception, until then enough with the propaganda.

How are we defining strong now? By idiocy in the face of evidence and facts? Joy Behar is an intelligent woman, the women who paved the way for morons like Palin and Bachmann were defined as strong because they were intelligent and not willing to be bullied into not expressing their intelligence. Women like Palin and Bachmann spit on everything those women did for them, they take all the progress women have made through hard work and dedication and act as if having a vagina should shield them from any criticism because anyone who says anything attacking their arguments is trying to disempower them as women. On top of that they crusade against women's rights at the same time, they say things like women should be submissive to their husbands, and they set the entire women's movement back more than fifty years. I don't define strong women as loud women, I define them as intelligent women, dedeicted women, women like Caroline Kennedy, Hillary Clinton, Gabriel Giffords, and Nancy Pelosi. I admire women that take the time to make intelligent arguments like Pelosi has done, as opposed to women who go out and consistently make idiots of themselves on TV like Palin. I admire women who worked hard to get a good education, as opposed to people who coasted through college on minimum requirements and decided to take up politics because they failed at everything else like Palin and Bahcmann. I admire women who don't feel like they have to live in their husband's shadow like Clinton, as opposed to a woman who constantly feels like she has to be openly submissive to a screwball idiot like Todd Palin (much as I dislike Caribou Barbie, even with the lowest opinion of her accomplishments, she has done far more with her life than that useless clod ever has). I admire women who don't feel dragged down because they don't fit into society's idealized vision of an attractive woman like Pelosi and Clinton, not people like Palin and Bachmann who actively use their sex appeal for political gain and then trot themselves out as empowering women. The left doesn't like strong women? THe left's women are intelligent, determined, hard-working, and empowered, the right's women are glorified college dropout models who couldn't form a cogent argument of their own if their life depended on it, I'd say the right doesn't like strong women.

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They want to force their values on you by implementing government-funded health care, abortion, and welfare programs. This goes against what Jesus taught!

stopped reading after this, any argument based on a flying spaghetti mi monster is invalid.

iloverikku11

Saying that an argument is invalid because it is based on religious principles is itself invalid. People's voting decisions and the policy positions of elected politicians are often grounded in religious principles. Because religious principles often guide the decisions of policy-makers, then religious arguments are, as a matter of fact, valid arguments if only for the simple fact that they carry weight with a great many people. So irrespective of the truthfulness of a religious principle, the fact that it carries weight with large numbers of people and with people who hold political power makes it valid. A valid argument need not be based in actual truth, since percieved truth functions just as well in the realm of political dialogue.

You're trying to conflate politics with science, and those are two very different beasts. Politics need not be scientific in the slightest bit to be effective. History should have taught you this by now.

The fact is that most of the world is not athiest. Athiests really do need to understand that theirs is a minoritarian position and that the rest of the world doesn't have to accept their position just because they think that it is "scientific".

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[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"]Liberals (whether Christian or not) love to say that what Jesus taught is compassion for the poor, which is true, but what liberals preach is the opposite of that. I only brought that up for that reason. I'm not being a troll. I am speaking genuinely in a light-hearted manner. You're only inferring my message as trollish for that reason.There is nothing wrong with mixing politics and religion by the way, since your views on life (what religion deals with) are ultimately going to effect your views on society (what politics deal with). The problem is when you interject your views on life on everyone else through society.

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Oh dear it honestly seems like you have no clue about politics..
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#31 GreySeal9
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Sarah Palin is a strong woman? :roll: Never has there been such a "victim" in American politics.

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#32 Espada12
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Haha nice one OP.

"Leftists are generous with other people's money!" Although you are being funny this part is pretty true :lol:

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Haha nice one OP.

"Leftists are generous with other people's money!" Although you are being funny this part is pretty true :lol:

Espada12

I stole that from Sean Hannity. Although I don't like him as a commentator, I love that comment in particular.

When do leftists encourage women to be promiscuous? I think it's more that if a woman wants to be promiscuous they celebrate it rather then villify her as society has done in the past. That's not ecnouraging promiscuity, that's simply being supportive of the life****that an individual CHOOSES to live. Leftists are equally supportive of anyone's PERSONAL exposition of their faith, so long as they aren't conducting hate campaigns like that moron Fred Phelps. The left has never tried to silence religious opinions, and they don't want the state to control the church, I have no idea where you're getting that from. As for abortion, you can go around saying that liberals want to kill children when you can objectively prove that life begins at conception, until then enough with the propaganda.

theone86

Theone, you raised some points, but I'll deal with this one in particular.

Why celebrate promiscuity though? It's nothing to be proud of. It's at risk at getting STIs and it ruins relationships. And why is it that the Left criticizes any women who wears a purity ring or the concept of purity rings in general if they want to celebrate all lifestyIe. I thought they didn't want to villify all women? Just the ones that I suppose that rebel against authority. By the way, I am not in favor of the purity ring. It's "holier-than-thou" and ironically anti-Christian since Jesus taught us to be humble, yet it's advocated by just Christians for the most part.

Also, I think the reason the birth certificate is such a controversy is not because President Obama is black, but because he has such a diverse background and it's easy for someone like him to be thought of as being in a foreign country as opposed to other Presidents.

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By the way, many conservatives like Sean Hannity criticize Fred Phelps. I read on Conservapedia that Phelps is a Democrat, but I can't trust anything Conservapedia says, but I've never heard any proof that Phelps is of any particular political persuasion. Also, the problem with abortion is that the government is using taxpayer money of the public, which the majority happen to be pro-life, in order to fund abortion. Hannity had some callers on his show call Planned Parenthood, which is funded, to see if they provided any women services besides abortion and they didn't. I left out the issue of whether an embryo is alive or not on the table, because that's not part of the discussion, but I am pro-life as you know and I think if you can't prove the embryo is or isn't alive, you should operate on the idea that he is, because he very well may be.

In the most elementary sense, an embryo is alive because it's animated matter and it's human because it's the offspring of humans.

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Can't tell if sarcastic.

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Theone, you raised some points, but I'll deal with this one in particular.

Why celebrate promiscuity though? It's nothing to be proud of. It's at risk at getting STIs and it ruins relationships. And why is it that the Left criticizes any women who wears a purity ring or the concept of purity rings in general if they want to celebrate all lifestyIe. I thought they didn't want to villify all women? Just the ones that I suppose that rebel against authority. By the way, I am not in favor of the purity ring. It's "holier-than-thou" and ironically anti-Christian since Jesus taught us to be humble, yet it's advocated by just Christians for the most part.

Also, I think the reason the birth certificate is such a controversy is not because President Obama is black, but because he has such a diverse background and it's easy for someone like him to be thought of as being in a foreign country as opposed to other Presidents.

Genetic_Code

I think its funny how you think everyone in the 'Left' does this. Not a good thing to generalize.

Here, let me try: Why does the right read the bible all day and hate the middle class?

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I think its funny how you think everyone in the 'Left' does this. Not a good thing to generalize.

Here, let me try: Why does the right read the bible all day and hate the middle class?

DroidPhysX
Okay, I see your point. Maybe I should criticize individuals, but I can't think of anyone in particular that criticizes people who wear purity rings other than some nameless people on a forum. I just wanted a debate I guessed and was debating against a common stereotype of the Left (which I think is generally true, but I have no surveys to prove that). I also think it's true that the people of the Right need to open up their Bibles and start reading it instead of pretending they believe in its words when they don't. Same goes for those on the Left that pretend to read their Bible as well.
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You're arguing for personal liberty one line and complaining about freedom to have abortions the next. That's all i have to say for now.
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[QUOTE="theone86"]

When do leftists encourage women to be promiscuous? I think it's more that if a woman wants to be promiscuous they celebrate it rather then villify her as society has done in the past. That's not ecnouraging promiscuity, that's simply being supportive of the life****that an individual CHOOSES to live. Leftists are equally supportive of anyone's PERSONAL exposition of their faith, so long as they aren't conducting hate campaigns like that moron Fred Phelps. The left has never tried to silence religious opinions, and they don't want the state to control the church, I have no idea where you're getting that from. As for abortion, you can go around saying that liberals want to kill children when you can objectively prove that life begins at conception, until then enough with the propaganda.

Genetic_Code

Theone, you raised some points, but I'll deal with this one in particular.

Why celebrate promiscuity though? It's nothing to be proud of. It's at risk at getting STIs and it ruins relationships. And why is it that the Left criticizes any women who wears a purity ring or the concept of purity rings in general if they want to celebrate all lifestyIe. I thought they didn't want to villify all women? Just the ones that I suppose that rebel against authority. By the way, I am not in favor of the purity ring. It's "holier-than-thou" and ironically anti-Christian since Jesus taught us to be humble, yet it's advocated by just Christians for the most part.

Also, I think the reason the birth certificate is such a controversy is not because President Obama is black, but because he has such a diverse background and it's easy for someone like him to be thought of as being in a foreign country as opposed to other Presidents.

Why isn't it something to be proud of? I think that there are certain situations where promiscuity is really more of a symptom of deeper emotional distress and in that situation it's nothing to be proud of, but I also think there are people who have casual sex because they like to express love physically, and I think that's something to be proud of, and so long as protection is used it's perfectly fine. As for it ruining relationships, that's completely anecdotal. I've been in two relationships where I didn't have sex and they both ended poorly, and I know plenty of people who have been in sexual relationships that lasted a long time. Besides, just because a relationship doesn't last forever doesn't mean it was ruined, sometimes a short, sexual relationship can be just as meaningful as a long lasting relationship where the couple waited.

As to the purity rings, I haven't really heard the left villify people who wear them. I think sometimes that this extreme advocacy of chastity gets criticized because it's so unnatural and the results can sometimes be so...strange. Like it or not, procreation is probably the only thing we can objectively say is wholly natural and universal, and whether they choose to act on them or not people have strong natural urges for procreation. Ignoring them can often lead to sexual repression, which manifests itself in different ways relating to beahvior, and I think if chastity is chastised it's more for the physio-phsychological effects exhibited by people who practice it rather than any desire to villify a lifestyle or interefere in someone's personal life.

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By the way, many conservatives like Sean Hannity criticize Fred Phelps. I read on Conservapedia that Phelps is a Democrat, but I can't trust anything Conservapedia says, but I've never heard any proof that Phelps is of any particular political persuasion. Also, the problem with abortion is that the government is using taxpayer money of the public, which the majority happen to be pro-life, in order to fund abortion. Hannity had some callers on his show call Planned Parenthood, which is funded, to see if they provided any women services besides abortion and they didn't. I left out the issue of whether an embryo is alive or not on the table, because that's not part of the discussion, but I am pro-life as you know and I think if you can't prove the embryo is or isn't alive, you should operate on the idea that he is, because he very well may be.

In the most elementary sense, an embryo is alive because it's animated matter and it's human because it's the offspring of humans.

Genetic_Code

Phelps ran as a Democrat in local elections back in the day, never won a primary. He supported Clinton and Gore in their first election because they said homosexuality wasn't natural, or that they didn't want to legalize gay marriage, or something like that. Gore flipped on that during 2000 and Phelps tried to run a smear campaing against him. Phelps isn't anything politically, he's a hateful propagandist who will latch on to any political movement that will suit his purposes.

ROFL, Sean Hannity. They do plenty besides aboritons, they provide vital health services like papsmears and breast exams to women. Abortion amounts to 3% of their total budget, and by law taxpayer money cannot go to that 3%.

Is sperm alive?

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Is sperm alive?

theone86

In its most elementary sense, it is. It isn't completely human though. It is only partially human because it only contains half of a human's DNA, so I think it's fitting to call that a "potential human being" than an embryo. It's like two sides of a house.

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I like how this is turning into an abortion arguement.

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I like how this is turning into an abortion arguement.

DroidPhysX

It's how these things play out, either turns into a abortion debate, or a religious one. often both :P

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"This goes against what Jesus taught"


sorry, stopped reading there.

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I'm right wing, still not sure if serious.

charlesdarwin55

This. I thought TC was somewhat center-right at one time, then it seemed as though he moved to the left. I'm not sure where he is politically now.

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I think its funny how you think everyone in the 'Left' does this. Not a good thing to generalize.

Here, let me try: Why does the right read the bible all day and hate the middle class?

DroidPhysX

To be fair the left hates the middle class to. Both parties pretty much hate the middle class.

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

I think its funny how you think everyone in the 'Left' does this. Not a good thing to generalize.

Here, let me try: Why does the right read the bible all day and hate the middle class?

Espada12

To be fair the left hates the middle class to. Both parties pretty much hate the middle class.

I would have to disagree. I once had a problem with the way a federal agency was treating me. I wrote a 6-page letter to the senior Republican on the House Armed Services committee, and he helped me - a lot. He chewed them out, in fact.

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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

I think its funny how you think everyone in the 'Left' does this. Not a good thing to generalize.

Here, let me try: Why does the right read the bible all day and hate the middle class?

topsemag55

To be fair the left hates the middle class to. Both parties pretty much hate the middle class.

I would have to disagree. I once had a problem with the way a federal agency was treating me. I wrote a 6-page letter to the senior Republican on the House Armed Services committee, and he helped me - a lot. He chewed them out, in fact.

I don't mean individually I mean in general. The right's policies don't really do anything too much to the middle class but doesn't really benefit them either. The left however just want to take money from whoever has it to give to the poor like robin hood. Both sides cater to two different extremes and none help the middle tbh.

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(I am borderline insane by the way.)

Obviously, I'm talking in generalities because that's what I'm best at.

Genetic_Code

It's nice to see a political thread so refreshingly honest.