immortality exists, no really

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#1 linkin_guy109
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immortality has often been something which many people would love to be able to have, atleast at some point in their life, if not for themselves then to save someone close to ones self, and basically everyone has come to the consensus that its impossible

not so fast though, scientists have found an animal which basically is immortal, it doesnt age, and if you cut it limbs off they will regrow

the creature in question is called a sea anemone, ive never heard of this creature before today but hearing about this creature has really made me realize how much potential science has in this world

and of course link for proof http://io9.com/5851145/what-makes-sea-anemones-immortal

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#2 tenaka2
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immortality has often been something which many people would love to be able to have, atleast at some point in their life, if not for themselves then to save someone close to ones self, and basically everyone has come to the consensus that its impossible

not so fast though, scientists have found an animal which basically is immortal, it doesnt age, and if you cut it limbs off they will regrow

the creature in question is called a sea anemone, ive never heard of this creature before today but hearing about this creature has really made me realize how much potential science has in this world

and of course link for proof http://io9.com/5851145/what-makes-sea-anemones-immortal

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You never heard of a sea anemone?

I take it you never saw finding Nemo?

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[QUOTE="linkin_guy109"]

immortality has often been something which many people would love to be able to have, atleast at some point in their life, if not for themselves then to save someone close to ones self, and basically everyone has come to the consensus that its impossible

not so fast though, scientists have found an animal which basically is immortal, it doesnt age, and if you cut it limbs off they will regrow

the creature in question is called a sea anemone, ive never heard of this creature before today but hearing about this creature has really made me realize how much potential science has in this world

and of course link for proof http://io9.com/5851145/what-makes-sea-anemones-immortal

That is some very interesting information about their nervous system mixed with some TERRIBLY innacurate and misleading information about their reproducing, and longevity. It's true that they can live for centuries (I belive one in NZ was found to be ~300 years old), but it's not the same as immortality. In many ways, the anemone that exists now is the offspring of the original... sort of like an in situ reproduction and expansion rather than a single organism aging.
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#4 Wasdie  Moderator
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Actually some jellyfish are the same way. There are estimations that some schools of jellyfish are far older than humans.

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#5 Frame_Dragger
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Actually some jellyfish are the same way. There are estimations that some schools of jellyfish are far older than humans.

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Very much the same mechanism too, and they're not really ONE organism. It's more like a mobile co-op, in which the total package acts as a kind of life-support system for the parts that make the whole. Saying they're not long-lived would be incorrect, but saying that they are is kind of off too. In a very real way it would be like saying that a large patch of lichen is immortal. The overall thing is long-lived, but the individual fungi and bacteria that form it are in many ways part of the whole, living average life-spans.

It's probably best to think of Jellies and Anemones as encysted colonies of specialized cells, in which each cell line represents an organism. The COLONY is extremely long-lived, but it's not analogues to a single organism doing the same.
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#6 Jackc8
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We had one of those in an aquarium and it died. Our kids can kill anything :lol:

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#7 IcyToasters
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Actually some jellyfish are the same way. There are estimations that some schools of jellyfish are far older than humans.

Wasdie


Weren't there buttloads of threads about immortal jellyfish a few months back? ;D

You never heard of a sea anemone?

I take it you never saw finding Nemo?

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A sea anememon
A sea amemenee
A sea anemenee

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#8 lowkey254
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Good stuff. I would quote the actual article and not i09 as I don't see them/that site as a credible source.

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#9 MushroomWig
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Can I inject it's DNA into my body and I'll be immortal too?
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#10 tenaka2
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Can I inject it's DNA into my body and I'll be immortal too?MushroomWig

You would grow tenticles.

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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"]Can I inject it's DNA into my body and I'll be immortal too?tenaka2

You would grow tenticles.

So I'll be popular in Japan?
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="MushroomWig"]Can I inject it's DNA into my body and I'll be immortal too?MushroomWig

You would grow tenticles.

So I'll be popular in Japan?

Yes.
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="MushroomWig"]Can I inject it's DNA into my body and I'll be immortal too?MushroomWig

You would grow tenticles.

So I'll be popular in Japan?

Very...
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#14 therancors
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Like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turritopsis_nutricula

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/01/090130-immortal-jellyfish-swarm.html

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#15 parkurtommo
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no really?

really, no.

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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="MushroomWig"]Can I inject it's DNA into my body and I'll be immortal too?MushroomWig

You would grow tenticles.

So I'll be popular in Japan?

Hahahahahahahahahahah... okay that one got me, thanks.
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Actually some jellyfish are the same way. There are estimations that some schools of jellyfish are far older than humans.

Wasdie

thats a very valid point

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#18 Zhuobi
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hmm, in a sense, yes. But the implications are limited. To gain something, something must be given. I'm not sure that humans could ever obtain immortality without ceasing to be human. How many people would want to give up their best qualities to live forever? To take on a form that is unrecognizable, would be for many people, hell.
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#19 Branmuffin316
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inb4chucknorris is immortal

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#20 MushroomWig
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I'm pretty sure Chuck Norris is immortal. ;)
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#21 notsoawesome
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We had one of those in an aquarium and it died. Our kids can kill anything :lol:

Jackc8

So much for immortality. :lol:

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#22 Evil_Saluki
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Immortal except for if you kill it.

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Immortality would be horrible to endure if humans and other more developed species were able to be long lived. Although the body wouldn't die, the mind would from living for so long. Already been writing that out for well over a decade with my character of Reina Beaumont and her struggle to find any joy to living for longer than she ever intended to.
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#24 Lucianu
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Why don't you ask Chuck Norris, there's a pretty big chance he know something.

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an article on a TIME magazine I got had the idea of immortal humans in it, they found you can totally reverse aging if you fool around with the strands on the end of DNA (Aging is caused by them getting shorter as you live your life, when they cant get any shorter you die)

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They say if you drink sea turtle blood with loch ness tears you will become immortal.

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#27 Frame_Dragger
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an article on a TIME magazine I got had the idea of immortal humans in it, they found you can totally reverse aging if you fool around with the strands on the end of DNA (Aging is caused by them getting shorter as you live your life, when they cant get any shorter you die)

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You're thinking of Telomeres... and it's not that simple. It's a factor in aging and when a cell line ungergoes apoptosis, but oxidative stress and other factors exist as well. Still... there are people who take Telomerease inhibitors... they still die.
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#28 ShadowMoses900
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That is quite interesting, I think there are some other animals like this like the Jelly Fish ect...

I don't think humans should live forever though....

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[QUOTE="Jackc8"]

We had one of those in an aquarium and it died. Our kids can kill anything :lol:

notsoawesome

So much for immortality. :lol:

Immortality doesn't mean invincibility.
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i am imortal. when i sneeze,all body functions stop working achoo achoo achoo i died three times. imortality, problem? trollface.jpg
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[QUOTE="notsoawesome"]

[QUOTE="Jackc8"]

We had one of those in an aquarium and it died. Our kids can kill anything :lol:

Diophage

So much for immortality. :lol:

Immortality doesn't mean invincibility.

Exactly. Immortality is always misunderstood in that way, just because something or someone might have a long life span doesn't mean that they are invinicible nor a God or whatever, immortality can still mean death, it just takes longer to happen.

If a human, for example, was suddenly immortal and all they had was a fast healing rate then it wouldn't mean that they can't die, they still can, it just takes a little more while inside they are dying in regards of their soul and mental health.

The body itself doesn't have to die for the person to die, brain death can be a lot worse since the body can be kept going with life support but there would be nothing in terms of a soul, a personality, there would just be a shell that's devoid of anything that could be considered a person.

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#32 metallica_fan42
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Cool, but those things don't really do anything when they're alive.
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#33 Scr00I
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and books will make me immortally well, read