In The Future, If They Made Microchipping Mandatory, Would You Resist?

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#51 Pikdum
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I'd join the resistance.

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#52 svenus97
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Well, if it was mandatory, by the deffinition of the word, you would have to do it.

[spoiler] Someone had to say it [/spoiler]

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#53 horgen  Moderator
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I would resist before it become mandatory...
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#54 Am_Confucius
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Depends on the reasons for it.

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#55 Tylendal
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If the technology was already available, I'm sure I'd be half cyborg by the time they actually made something like that mandatory.
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#56 IcyToasters
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Well, if it was mandatory, by the deffinition of the word, you would have to do it.

*spoiler* Someone had to say it */spoiler*

svenus97


I assume we're assuming "mandatory" as in the government "requires" people to do it, not "mandatory" as in "the space squids now present on Earth will lay eggs in you if you don't protect yourself with this chip"...
I would resist before it become mandatory... horgen123

and I suppose thiss

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#58 CRS98
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It depends, will it give me superpowers?
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#59 Fightingfan
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I'd be the next Jim Jones or Charlies Manson.
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#60 Sunfyre7896
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F*** NO. That's just another way for people to track every movement you make. The funny thing is it could be a reality. They would force people to get them because all of your money would be on it and cash would no longer exist and all they'd have to say is 'Patriot Act.' "Terrorists only use cash. Our job as the government is to stop them before they strike. This heralds a new era and makes your life more simple. All your information and money all in one place. Helping to control yo, ahem, build a brighter tomorrow." . . . Yeah. Shove it up your cornhole.

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#61 MrGeezer
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F*** NO. That's just another way for people to track every movement you make. The funny thing is it could be a reality. They would force people to get them because all of your money would be on it and cash would no longer exist and all they'd have to say is 'Patriot Act.' "Terrorists only use cash. Our job as the government is to stop them before they strike. This heralds a new era and makes your life more simple. All your information and money all in one place. Helping to control yo, ahem, build a brighter tomorrow." . . . Yeah. Shove it up your cornhole.

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As far as I'm aware, it's possible to use cell phones to track you (pretty much everywhere, seeing as how most people don't seem to go anywhere without their cell phones). People generally seem to be okay with that. Or at least, okay enough to actually keep using cell phones out of convenience.
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#62 Sunfyre7896
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[QUOTE="Sunfyre7896"]

F*** NO. That's just another way for people to track every movement you make. The funny thing is it could be a reality. They would force people to get them because all of your money would be on it and cash would no longer exist and all they'd have to say is 'Patriot Act.' "Terrorists only use cash. Our job as the government is to stop them before they strike. This heralds a new era and makes your life more simple. All your information and money all in one place. Helping to control yo, ahem, build a brighter tomorrow." . . . Yeah. Shove it up your cornhole.

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As far as I'm aware, it's possible to use cell phones to track you (pretty much everywhere, seeing as how most people don't seem to go anywhere without their cell phones). People generally seem to be okay with that. Or at least, okay enough to actually keep using cell phones out of convenience.

But there's a difference between possibly tracking your movements if the need arises because they lock on to you and you also have to have your phone on and on you and a machine that automatically tracks every place you go, every move you make, every dollar you spend, who you've interacted with and when, etc. It's WAYYYY more in depth and WAYYY more an invasion of privacy. They'll find a way though.
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#63 inoperativeRS
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Depends... I would not like to have one inserted for the sole purpose of giving authorities the ability to track my position at any time, but I wouldn't mind doing it for work (if there is a good reason) and if it is a consequence of for example modifying parts of my body with technology I would be willing to pay that price.
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#64 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="Sunfyre7896"] But there's a difference between possibly tracking your movements if the need arises because they lock on to you and you also have to have your phone on and on you and a machine that automatically tracks every place you go, every move you make, every dollar you spend, who you've interacted with and when, etc. It's WAYYYY more in depth and WAYYY more an invasion of privacy. They'll find a way though.

Why would you assume that our hypothetical microchip would indeed be installed for the PURPOSE of tracking your movements? I mean, you don't assume that the purpose of a cell phone is to track your movements, do you? Out of all the possible reasons to get a microchip imbedded under your skin, I'm pretty sure that there are other reasons besides "tracking our movements". Therefore, there's nothing inherently stopping the use of a microchip which either lacks the capability to track movements, or only tracks movement once that capability is enabled (like with cell phones).
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#65 xdude85
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Resist or Serve.
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#66 soulless4now
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Heck yes, I'll resist. I'd dont want no microchip inside my wrist. It'll be like having a stalker.

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#67 coolbeans90
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Yes, resorting to violent resistance if required.

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#68 MrGeezer
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And one little thing...the idea that getting these microchip implants is "mandatory". Mandatory? What does that even mean? Like...what;ll happen if you DO resist? Does that mean that you'll go to prison or something? If so, doesn't that sort of trump the POTENTIAL possibility that the microchips MIGHT be used to track your every movement? After all, if you end up going to prison for non-compliance, then doesn't that sort of make your every movement more subject to observation and scrutiny than just agreeing to get the microchip implant in the first place? We've never even specificied what these hypothetical microchips actually DO.
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And one little thing...the idea that getting these microchip implants is "mandatory". Mandatory? What does that even mean? Like...what;ll happen if you DO resist? Does that mean that you'll go to prison or something? If so, doesn't that sort of trump the POTENTIAL possibility that the microchips MIGHT be used to track your every movement? After all, if you end up going to prison for non-compliance, then doesn't that sort of make your every movement more subject to observation and scrutiny than just agreeing to get the microchip implant in the first place? We've never even specificied what these hypothetical microchips actually DO. MrGeezer

What the heck are you talking about? There are things that we are unaware of. For instance, this so called "War on Terror". There is not war on terror, its just an excuse to implement anyone law that will make the already powerful more powerful. Do me a big favor and read up on Aaron Russo. He goes into detail about this microchipping and how his good friend, forgot his name but one of the Rockefellers, explains to him how these chips will be implemented soon.

Lets say they retro actively created a law that requires you to pay more taxes. Well guess what instead of asking or waiting for you to pay them, they'll just convienietly take it out of your microchip.

I'm so excited about this

/Sarcasm

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#70 UprootedDreamer
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I would resist it.
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#71 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]And one little thing...the idea that getting these microchip implants is "mandatory". Mandatory? What does that even mean? Like...what;ll happen if you DO resist? Does that mean that you'll go to prison or something? If so, doesn't that sort of trump the POTENTIAL possibility that the microchips MIGHT be used to track your every movement? After all, if you end up going to prison for non-compliance, then doesn't that sort of make your every movement more subject to observation and scrutiny than just agreeing to get the microchip implant in the first place? We've never even specificied what these hypothetical microchips actually DO. Heroldp813

What the heck are you talking about? There are things that we are unaware of. For instance, this so called "War on Terror". There is not war on terror, its just an excuse to implement anyone law that will make the already powerful more powerful. Do me a big favor and read up on Aaron Russo. He goes into detail about this microchipping and how his good friend, forgot his name but one of the Rockefellers, explains to him how these chips will be implemented soon.

Lets say they retro actively created a law that requires you to pay more taxes. Well guess what instead of asking or waiting for you to pay them, they'll just convienietly take it out of your microchip.

I'm so excited about this

/Sarcasm

That's like saying that they'll try to reduce the popultion by using cell phones as a means for giving everyone cancer. It'd be to to fill them up with radioactive materials, so that anyone who buys one gets brain cancer within a few years. Except...that's NOT possible since cell phones AREN'T filled with highly radiactive materials. In other words, you can't say "microchipping will lead to this" simply because someone could HYPOTHETICALLY create a microchip which is capable of it. You'd have to talk about the ACTUAL microchip being proposed/used, and then determine if THAT microchip is capable of doing whatever. Seeing as how there NO mandatory microchips, it's pretty hard to validate any wild conspiracy theories about them.
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#72 omus101
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Of course i'd resist. Knowing that the government would know exactly where I am isn't cool, however there could be some good uses for it. Missing people, stolen children, etc.

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only if im allowed to to beat the stuffing out of someone first.. somebody important and i despise.. then and only then would i get tagged like an animal. heck let me put em six feet under and ill come to you!

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If people knew about it then it would never happen, the government would have to secretly implant them. What kind of fool would go along with something like that anyway?
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#75 ionusX
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If people knew about it then it would never happen, the government would have to secretly implant them. What kind of fool would go along with something like that anyway?MushroomWig
folks who dont mind getting physically violated (unconstituionally at that) at airports

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#76 Communist_Soul
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I really don't care go ahead if it makes things easier; doubt they would implant in the person anyways most likely it would be in a card.

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#77 deactivated-58df4522915cb
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since its against my religion (that whole "mark of the beast" thing) i obviously wouldnt

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#78 Communist_Soul
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since its against my religion (that whole "mark of the beast" thing) i obviously wouldnt

Neo-ganon

Wait there is some religion out there that says explicitly says you can't have a microchip embedded in you?

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Rage against the machine.
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#80 mrbojangles25
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yes I would resist. The technology does not bug me so much, but forcing people to do it is horrible imo. Then again, a tech like that is just waiting to be abused.

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#81 hartsickdiscipl
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I wouldn't allow it. I would resist by any means available to me.

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#82 deactivated-597bb01c846a2
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There's no way something like that would pass without being physically forced. And with physical force, comes retaliation.
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[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]

since its against my religion (that whole "mark of the beast" thing) i obviously wouldnt

Communist_Soul

Wait there is some religion out there that says explicitly says you can't have a microchip embedded in you?

yeah. in christianity theres a sign for the end times were they will "mark" you on either your right hand or forehead, and the only way you can buy things (like food) is if you are marked. So if these chips become our currency, and the only way to buy something is if your "marked" with a chip in your right hand (or forehead), then its the mark of the beast and we are in the end times. The mark is supposed to be a sign of your loyalty to the devil/antichrist since he would control the currency and would therefore control you

the mark could be anything by the way, it could be a chip, a tattoo, a barcode, ect.

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[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]

since its against my religion (that whole "mark of the beast" thing) i obviously wouldnt

Communist_Soul

Wait there is some religion out there that says explicitly says you can't have a microchip embedded in you?

At the end ofRevelations they state something along these lines.

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Hell yeh - having a chip to open the house / car and pay for stuff would be mega :D
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#86 Communist_Soul
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[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]

since its against my religion (that whole "mark of the beast" thing) i obviously wouldnt

Neo-ganon

Wait there is some religion out there that says explicitly says you can't have a microchip embedded in you?

yeah. in christianity theres a sign for the end times were they will "mark" you on either your right hand or forehead, and the only way you can buy things (like food) is if you are marked. So if these chips become our currency, and the only way to buy something is if your "marked" with a chip in your right hand (or forehead), then its the mark of the beast and we are in the end times. The mark is supposed to be a sign of your loyalty to the devil/antichrist since he would control the currency and would therefore control you

the mark could be anything by the way, it could be a chip, a tattoo, a barcode, ect.

Sounds like uh you really strenching the meaning of the verse. I now honestly hope this comes to be see a bunch of Christians freak out about end times.

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#87 lensflare15
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I wouldn't do it. I hope most people would be smart enough to fight back.

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[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]

[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

Wait there is some religion out there that says explicitly says you can't have a microchip embedded in you?

Communist_Soul

yeah. in christianity theres a sign for the end times were they will "mark" you on either your right hand or forehead, and the only way you can buy things (like food) is if you are marked. So if these chips become our currency, and the only way to buy something is if your "marked" with a chip in your right hand (or forehead), then its the mark of the beast and we are in the end times. The mark is supposed to be a sign of your loyalty to the devil/antichrist since he would control the currency and would therefore control you

the mark could be anything by the way, it could be a chip, a tattoo, a barcode, ect.

Sounds like uh you really strenching the meaning of the verse. I now honestly hope this comes to be see a bunch of Christians freak out about end times.

i try to just look at the basics of it actually. In the bible, they say that without the mark on your hand/forehead you cant buy things. In the case with these chips, you cant buy anything without them on your hand/forehead (assuming they get to the point of taking over ALL currency)

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#89 Jacobistheman
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I honestly feel like having a microchip is awsome idea. I don't see what is wrong with having a chip that has your information on it that can be used in cases of emergency.

I would never support it if it was manditory though.

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#90 MrGeezer
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Of course i'd resist. Knowing that the government would know exactly where I am isn't cool, however there could be some good uses for it. Missing people, stolen children, etc.

omus101
Suppose that the penalty for resisting is to be sent to prison. Wouldn't the government know exactly where you are anyway? Just saying...if you'd resist a MANDATORY microchip implant because you don't want the governemt to know where you are, then don't we sort of need to define what counts as "resistance", and don't we need to determine what'll actually happen if you don't comply with the mandate?
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#91 MushroomWig
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Hell yeh - having a chip to open the house / car and pay for stuff would be mega :Dtofu-lion91
Oh yeah, mega awesome until thieves figure a way of hacking the chips and start ripping them out of people.