I'd join the resistance.
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Well, if it was mandatory, by the deffinition of the word, you would have to do it.
*spoiler* Someone had to say it */spoiler*
svenus97
I would resist before it become mandatory... horgen123
F*** NO. That's just another way for people to track every movement you make. The funny thing is it could be a reality. They would force people to get them because all of your money would be on it and cash would no longer exist and all they'd have to say is 'Patriot Act.' "Terrorists only use cash. Our job as the government is to stop them before they strike. This heralds a new era and makes your life more simple. All your information and money all in one place. Helping to control yo, ahem, build a brighter tomorrow." . . . Yeah. Shove it up your cornhole.
As far as I'm aware, it's possible to use cell phones to track you (pretty much everywhere, seeing as how most people don't seem to go anywhere without their cell phones). People generally seem to be okay with that. Or at least, okay enough to actually keep using cell phones out of convenience.F*** NO. That's just another way for people to track every movement you make. The funny thing is it could be a reality. They would force people to get them because all of your money would be on it and cash would no longer exist and all they'd have to say is 'Patriot Act.' "Terrorists only use cash. Our job as the government is to stop them before they strike. This heralds a new era and makes your life more simple. All your information and money all in one place. Helping to control yo, ahem, build a brighter tomorrow." . . . Yeah. Shove it up your cornhole.
Sunfyre7896
[QUOTE="Sunfyre7896"]As far as I'm aware, it's possible to use cell phones to track you (pretty much everywhere, seeing as how most people don't seem to go anywhere without their cell phones). People generally seem to be okay with that. Or at least, okay enough to actually keep using cell phones out of convenience. But there's a difference between possibly tracking your movements if the need arises because they lock on to you and you also have to have your phone on and on you and a machine that automatically tracks every place you go, every move you make, every dollar you spend, who you've interacted with and when, etc. It's WAYYYY more in depth and WAYYY more an invasion of privacy. They'll find a way though.F*** NO. That's just another way for people to track every movement you make. The funny thing is it could be a reality. They would force people to get them because all of your money would be on it and cash would no longer exist and all they'd have to say is 'Patriot Act.' "Terrorists only use cash. Our job as the government is to stop them before they strike. This heralds a new era and makes your life more simple. All your information and money all in one place. Helping to control yo, ahem, build a brighter tomorrow." . . . Yeah. Shove it up your cornhole.
MrGeezer
And one little thing...the idea that getting these microchip implants is "mandatory". Mandatory? What does that even mean? Like...what;ll happen if you DO resist? Does that mean that you'll go to prison or something? If so, doesn't that sort of trump the POTENTIAL possibility that the microchips MIGHT be used to track your every movement? After all, if you end up going to prison for non-compliance, then doesn't that sort of make your every movement more subject to observation and scrutiny than just agreeing to get the microchip implant in the first place? We've never even specificied what these hypothetical microchips actually DO. MrGeezer
What the heck are you talking about? There are things that we are unaware of. For instance, this so called "War on Terror". There is not war on terror, its just an excuse to implement anyone law that will make the already powerful more powerful. Do me a big favor and read up on Aaron Russo. He goes into detail about this microchipping and how his good friend, forgot his name but one of the Rockefellers, explains to him how these chips will be implemented soon.
Lets say they retro actively created a law that requires you to pay more taxes. Well guess what instead of asking or waiting for you to pay them, they'll just convienietly take it out of your microchip.
I'm so excited about this
/Sarcasm
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]And one little thing...the idea that getting these microchip implants is "mandatory". Mandatory? What does that even mean? Like...what;ll happen if you DO resist? Does that mean that you'll go to prison or something? If so, doesn't that sort of trump the POTENTIAL possibility that the microchips MIGHT be used to track your every movement? After all, if you end up going to prison for non-compliance, then doesn't that sort of make your every movement more subject to observation and scrutiny than just agreeing to get the microchip implant in the first place? We've never even specificied what these hypothetical microchips actually DO. Heroldp813
What the heck are you talking about? There are things that we are unaware of. For instance, this so called "War on Terror". There is not war on terror, its just an excuse to implement anyone law that will make the already powerful more powerful. Do me a big favor and read up on Aaron Russo. He goes into detail about this microchipping and how his good friend, forgot his name but one of the Rockefellers, explains to him how these chips will be implemented soon.
Lets say they retro actively created a law that requires you to pay more taxes. Well guess what instead of asking or waiting for you to pay them, they'll just convienietly take it out of your microchip.
I'm so excited about this
/Sarcasm
That's like saying that they'll try to reduce the popultion by using cell phones as a means for giving everyone cancer. It'd be to to fill them up with radioactive materials, so that anyone who buys one gets brain cancer within a few years. Except...that's NOT possible since cell phones AREN'T filled with highly radiactive materials. In other words, you can't say "microchipping will lead to this" simply because someone could HYPOTHETICALLY create a microchip which is capable of it. You'd have to talk about the ACTUAL microchip being proposed/used, and then determine if THAT microchip is capable of doing whatever. Seeing as how there NO mandatory microchips, it's pretty hard to validate any wild conspiracy theories about them.If people knew about it then it would never happen, the government would have to secretly implant them. What kind of fool would go along with something like that anyway?MushroomWigfolks who dont mind getting physically violated (unconstituionally at that) at airports
I really don't care go ahead if it makes things easier; doubt they would implant in the person anyways most likely it would be in a card.
since its against my religion (that whole "mark of the beast" thing) i obviously wouldnt
Neo-ganon
Wait there is some religion out there that says explicitly says you can't have a microchip embedded in you?
yes I would resist. The technology does not bug me so much, but forcing people to do it is horrible imo. Then again, a tech like that is just waiting to be abused.
[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]
since its against my religion (that whole "mark of the beast" thing) i obviously wouldnt
Communist_Soul
Wait there is some religion out there that says explicitly says you can't have a microchip embedded in you?
yeah. in christianity theres a sign for the end times were they will "mark" you on either your right hand or forehead, and the only way you can buy things (like food) is if you are marked. So if these chips become our currency, and the only way to buy something is if your "marked" with a chip in your right hand (or forehead), then its the mark of the beast and we are in the end times. The mark is supposed to be a sign of your loyalty to the devil/antichrist since he would control the currency and would therefore control you
the mark could be anything by the way, it could be a chip, a tattoo, a barcode, ect.
[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]
since its against my religion (that whole "mark of the beast" thing) i obviously wouldnt
Communist_Soul
Wait there is some religion out there that says explicitly says you can't have a microchip embedded in you?
At the end ofRevelations they state something along these lines.
[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]
[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]
since its against my religion (that whole "mark of the beast" thing) i obviously wouldnt
Neo-ganon
Wait there is some religion out there that says explicitly says you can't have a microchip embedded in you?
yeah. in christianity theres a sign for the end times were they will "mark" you on either your right hand or forehead, and the only way you can buy things (like food) is if you are marked. So if these chips become our currency, and the only way to buy something is if your "marked" with a chip in your right hand (or forehead), then its the mark of the beast and we are in the end times. The mark is supposed to be a sign of your loyalty to the devil/antichrist since he would control the currency and would therefore control you
the mark could be anything by the way, it could be a chip, a tattoo, a barcode, ect.
Sounds like uh you really strenching the meaning of the verse. I now honestly hope this comes to be see a bunch of Christians freak out about end times.
[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]
[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]
Wait there is some religion out there that says explicitly says you can't have a microchip embedded in you?
Communist_Soul
yeah. in christianity theres a sign for the end times were they will "mark" you on either your right hand or forehead, and the only way you can buy things (like food) is if you are marked. So if these chips become our currency, and the only way to buy something is if your "marked" with a chip in your right hand (or forehead), then its the mark of the beast and we are in the end times. The mark is supposed to be a sign of your loyalty to the devil/antichrist since he would control the currency and would therefore control you
the mark could be anything by the way, it could be a chip, a tattoo, a barcode, ect.
Sounds like uh you really strenching the meaning of the verse. I now honestly hope this comes to be see a bunch of Christians freak out about end times.
i try to just look at the basics of it actually. In the bible, they say that without the mark on your hand/forehead you cant buy things. In the case with these chips, you cant buy anything without them on your hand/forehead (assuming they get to the point of taking over ALL currency)
I honestly feel like having a microchip is awsome idea. I don't see what is wrong with having a chip that has your information on it that can be used in cases of emergency.
I would never support it if it was manditory though.
Suppose that the penalty for resisting is to be sent to prison. Wouldn't the government know exactly where you are anyway? Just saying...if you'd resist a MANDATORY microchip implant because you don't want the governemt to know where you are, then don't we sort of need to define what counts as "resistance", and don't we need to determine what'll actually happen if you don't comply with the mandate?Of course i'd resist. Knowing that the government would know exactly where I am isn't cool, however there could be some good uses for it. Missing people, stolen children, etc.
omus101
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