In The Year 2040, Will Fallout Boy Be Considered Classic Rock?

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#51 Boogie_J
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[QUOTE="Boogie_J"]

delivery? instrumentation?

Samwel_X

So you are saying I could dress up in a hip way, play random notes on an instrument, and then just make silly noises over the mic and become a musical act that will be remembered for generations?

people's values/tastes change over time. Look at how the punk movement came to be. Punk isn't about complex chords and poetic lyrics. It's about FEELING, and EMOTION. Johnny Rotten wasn't exactly TS Elliot but aren't the pistols considered classic?

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#52 PsychoT4Prez
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A better question is do "Rock" fans actually listen to Fall Out Boy? I look at em as the emo pop fad. It's just a silly click thing that people go along with just to be in a crowd just like the wannabe thug scene. As soon as they drop a album that doesn't connect with the mix station listener they will fade away. Hopefully that will happen sooner rather than later.
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#53 jachichorro
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[QUOTE="Samwel_X"][QUOTE="Boogie_J"]

delivery? instrumentation?

Boogie_J

So you are saying I could dress up in a hip way, play random notes on an instrument, and then just make silly noises over the mic and become a musical act that will be remembered for generations?

people's values/tastes change over time. Look at how the punk movement came to be. Punk isn't about complex chords and poetic lyrics. It's about FEELING, and EMOTION. Johnny Rotten wasn't exactly TS Elliot but aren't the pistols considered classic?

Pistols suck, they couldn't even play their instruments right. Look at The Clash for a good punk band :P

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#54 Samwel_X
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people's values/tastes change over time. Look at how the punk movement came to be. Punk isn't about complex chords and poetic lyrics. It's about FEELING, and EMOTION. Johnny Rotten wasn't exactly TS Elliot but aren't the pistols considered classic?

Boogie_J

That said, the Sex Pistols could write songs.

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#55 Boogie_J
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[QUOTE="Boogie_J"]

people's values/tastes change over time. Look at how the punk movement came to be. Punk isn't about complex chords and poetic lyrics. It's about FEELING, and EMOTION. Johnny Rotten wasn't exactly TS Elliot but aren't the pistols considered classic?

Samwel_X

That said, the Sex Pistols could write songs.

No better than Green day, I would say

man, i'm on a ROLL

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#56 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Samwel_X"][QUOTE="Boogie_J"]

people's values/tastes change over time. Look at how the punk movement came to be. Punk isn't about complex chords and poetic lyrics. It's about FEELING, and EMOTION. Johnny Rotten wasn't exactly TS Elliot but aren't the pistols considered classic?

Boogie_J

That said, the Sex Pistols could write songs.

No better than Green day, I would say

man, i'm on a ROLL

Pistols songs meant something. They may not have been symphonic all stars but they had a message.

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#57 Boogie_J
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[QUOTE="Boogie_J"][QUOTE="Samwel_X"][QUOTE="Boogie_J"]

people's values/tastes change over time. Look at how the punk movement came to be. Punk isn't about complex chords and poetic lyrics. It's about FEELING, and EMOTION. Johnny Rotten wasn't exactly TS Elliot but aren't the pistols considered classic?

LJS9502_basic

That said, the Sex Pistols could write songs.

No better than Green day, I would say

man, i'm on a ROLL

Pistols songs meant something. They may not have been symphonic all stars but they had a message.

So does American Idiot and Bulovard of broken dreams

Teens connect with these songs today just like they did with the pisols back then

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#58 LJS9502_basic
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So does American Idiot and Bulovard of broken dreams

Teens connect with these songs today just like they did with the pisols back then

Boogie_J

Do they connect? Or do they just listen to the MTV bands du jour?

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#59 Samwel_X
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No better than Green day, I would say

Boogie_J

Well you compare taking the national anthem and turning it into what the Sex Pistols did, with American Idiot. It is a different level of thought.


I don't like the Sex Pistols much, but at least I can admit to their good ideas when it came to music.

And if you want to argue that they couldn't play instruments and that it was down to attitude, well their attitude was very different to that of Green Day. Timing was important for their attitude, conservative Britain had never seen anything like it. For example The Sex Pistols were notorious in the UK because they said the F-word on live TV, which at that time had never been heard on British TV, if a band did it now, nobody would be bothered. They then continued to do controversial things a long that vein that got them remembered.

What have Green Day done in that department to make them memorable?

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#60 f15srcool
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I despise Greenday.JJ4545

Even the older stuff?

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#61 Bauers-Twin
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why do people hate Green Day so much? There newer suff is unlistenable crap but their older stuff is good, particularly their first two albums.
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#62 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Boogie_J"]

No better than Green day, I would say

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Well you compare taking the national anthem and turning it into what the Sex Pistols did, with American Idiot. It is a different level of thought.


I don't like the Sex Pistols much, but at least I can admit to their good ideas when it came to music.

And if you want to argue that they couldn't play instruments and that it was down to attitude, well their attitude was very different to that of Green Day. Timing was important for their attitude, conservative Britain had never seen anything like it. For example The Sex Pistols were notorious in the UK because they said the F-word on live TV, which at that time had never been heard on British TV, if a band did it now, nobody would be bothered. They then continued to do controversial things a long that vein that got them remembered.

What have Green Day done in that department to make them memorable?

The Sex Pistols were also important for influencing bands. Green Day, MCR, and FOB will not do that.

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#63 Samwel_X
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why do people hate Green Day so much? There newer suff is unlistenable crap but their older stuff is good, particularly their first two albums.Bauers-Twin

In my posts I'm not getting at Green Day, it is just the example he gave. Insomniac is a decent album.Can't say I like the others.

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#64 Boogie_J
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[QUOTE="Samwel_X"][QUOTE="Boogie_J"]

No better than Green day, I would say

LJS9502_basic

Well you compare taking the national anthem and turning it into what the Sex Pistols did, with American Idiot. It is a different level of thought.


I don't like the Sex Pistols much, but at least I can admit to their good ideas when it came to music.

And if you want to argue that they couldn't play instruments and that it was down to attitude, well their attitude was very different to that of Green Day. Timing was important for their attitude, conservative Britain had never seen anything like it. For example The Sex Pistols were notorious in the UK because they said the F-word on live TV, which at that time had never been heard on British TV, if a band did it now, nobody would be bothered. They then continued to do controversial things a long that vein that got them remembered.

What have Green Day done in that department to make them memorable?

The Sex Pistols were also important for influencing bands. Green Day, MCR, and FOB will not do that.

time will tell..

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Older Green Day is quite good. But I hate crap like Fallout Boy and My Chemical Romance. Most music I listen to is quite unpopular with my friends (I'm 15 btw) and quite a lot of it they haven't even heard of. My favourite band right now is a small, relatively unheard of band called The Loved Ones. Look them up. They take pop-punk and make it more gritty and hardcore. I love it. It's just a shame bands like this never get the mainstream attention they deserve.
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While im not a big fan of Green Day, to put Fallout Boy in the same sentence as them is revolting. Green Day did a lot for alternative music/punk in the 90's. WTF has Fallout Boy done? Ooh, they made a music video for one of their crappy songs with monkeys!! Hooray!!
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#67 SolidSnake35
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No...but it will still be looked on as garbage.FleshTone
They're not looked on as garbage today so you can scrap that idea.
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[QUOTE="FleshTone"]No...but it will still be looked on as garbage.SolidSnake35
They're not looked on as garbage today so you can scrap that idea.

Yes, they are.

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[QUOTE="Bauers-Twin"]why do people hate Green Day so much? There newer suff is unlistenable crap but their older stuff is good, particularly their first two albums.Samwel_X

In my posts I'm not getting at Green Day, it is just the example he gave. Insomniac is a decent album.Can't say I like the others.

I'm no Green Day fan but Dookie and Kerplunk are pretty great, Insomniacand on is alright the fall of Green Day was when they made that song like "Time of Your Life" or something, it totally wasnt them.

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#70 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="FleshTone"]No...but it will still be looked on as garbage.stevenscott14

They're not looked on as garbage today so you can scrap that idea.

Yes, they are.

It depends who you ask. ^_^
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I'm no Green Day fan but Dookie and Kerplunk are pretty great, Insomniacand on is alright the fall of Green Day was when they made that song like "Time of Your Life" or something, it totally wasnt them.

Bauers-Twin

Green Day has some serviceable songs...nothing special but not worth changing the station. Though I can't say that about the other examples.

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#72 Video_Game_King
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I thought that one of the requirements of being classic was that it had/has to be good.
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#73 SolidSnake35
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I thought that one of the requirements of being classic was that it had/has to be good.Video_Game_King
No, they just need a following of fans who refuse to accept modern music. >_>
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Not the bands you listed ... I can't really think of many bands today that might be considered classic rock in the future ... maybe a band like Arctic Monkeys if they keep up their form.I dunno ...
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I say MUSE will be considered a classic in the future. Who's with me?
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I say MUSE will be considered a classic in the future. Who's with me?jachichorro

As much as I am indifferent to them , I reckon you may be right , yes.

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#77 Bauers-Twin
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[QUOTE="Bauers-Twin"]

I'm no Green Day fan but Dookie and Kerplunk are pretty great, Insomniacand on is alright the fall of Green Day was when they made that song like "Time of Your Life" or something, it totally wasnt them.

LJS9502_basic

Green Day has some serviceable songs...nothing special but not worth changing the station. Though I can't say that about the other examples.

I poretty much fully agree although i cnat say I'vwe never listened to MCr or Falloutboy, I was into that whole punk/emo/mtv/pop scene maybe like 4 or 5 years back when those bands werejust coming out. MCR is form my home state too so i used to like them, now i listen to better music.

Not the bands you listed ... I can't really think of many bands today that might be considered classic rock in the future ... maybe a band like Arctic Monkeys if they keep up their form.I dunno ...Whight_Knight

ARCTIC MONKS OWN!!

Glad someone has good music taste.

[QUOTE="jachichorro"]I say MUSE will be considered a classic in the future. Who's with me?Whight_Knight

As much as I am indifferent to them , I reckon you may be right , yes.

Well no one in the Us really knows of them. They are popular among alternative stations and internetters, they seem popular on this site. But my dad listens to "Philadelphias Rock Station" and on there the only Muse song i ever heard was Starlight which isnt even in their top 20 probably.

On alt.rock stations i useed to listen to i heard a few of their songs like Time is Running Out, Supermassive Black Hole, Knights of Cydonia. Thats the reason i listen to basically no radio anymore, they just didnt play enough of what i wnated to hear. Luckily I havent been listening to commercial radio for about 2 years, besides in someones car. Internet radio, band myspaces, etc. are much superior.

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I say MUSE will be considered a classic in the future. Who's with me?jachichorro

no, theyre terrible

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I nthe year 2040 we'll be able to listen to music telepathically! but no I don't think FAll Out Boy will be considered classic rock... Nirvana maybe... RHCP probably....
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#80 monetmelly
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I think so .I strongly feel that because in 2040 their aren't going be performing at big venues try parks and house of blues. FalloutBoy and Greenday head title of the concert would be "BACK IN CONCERT"
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[QUOTE="jachichorro"]I say MUSE will be considered a classic in the future. Who's with me?Boogie_J

no, theyre terrible

i dont get how people say that. Whats bad about them?

I think people just hate them cause so many forumers here love them.

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[QUOTE="jachichorro"]I say MUSE will be considered a classic in the future. Who's with me?Boogie_J

no, theyre terrible

I thought "only time will tell"?

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[QUOTE="jachichorro"]I say MUSE will be considered a classic in the future. Who's with me?Boogie_J

no, theyre terrible

Muse is not terrible.

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I nthe year 2040 we'll be able to listen to music telepathically! but no I don't think FAll Out Boy will be considered classic rock... Nirvana maybe... RHCP probably....gorilazandgames

Nirvana ... they'll be consider classic a good bit before 2040 I think.

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Maybe technical death metal will be considered as classic rock.rom11

:lol: oh how i wish it were true. i'd love it if i turned on the radio 30 years from now, and heard Slit Your Guts by Cryptopsy :P

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[QUOTE="gorilazandgames"]I nthe year 2040 we'll be able to listen to music telepathically! but no I don't think FAll Out Boy will be considered classic rock... Nirvana maybe... RHCP probably....Whight_Knight

Nirvana ... they'll be consider classic a good bit before 2040 I think.

I get the feeling they're very close to being classic now, if they're not already. 80s music is considered classic (rock at least) so I'd hazard a guess it'd be within the next generation.

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isn't kurt in the rock & roll hall of fame?

nirvana is classic NOW, regardless!

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#88 Whight_Knight
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[QUOTE="Whight_Knight"]

[QUOTE="gorilazandgames"]I nthe year 2040 we'll be able to listen to music telepathically! but no I don't think FAll Out Boy will be considered classic rock... Nirvana maybe... RHCP probably....AirGuitarist87

Nirvana ... they'll be consider classic a good bit before 2040 I think.

I get the feeling they're very close to being classic now, if they're not already. 80s music is considered classic (rock at least) so I'd hazard a guess it'd be within the next generation.

Yeah , I'd give them another 10 years or so ..

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nope. Frat Rock....end of story
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[QUOTE="Boogie_J"]

[QUOTE="jachichorro"]I say MUSE will be considered a classic in the future. Who's with me?LJS9502_basic

no, theyre terrible

Muse is not terrible.

You seemed to have made a typo. They are indeed terrible.

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fall out boy could never be classic, much less "good".
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[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="Whight_Knight"]

[QUOTE="gorilazandgames"]I nthe year 2040 we'll be able to listen to music telepathically! but no I don't think FAll Out Boy will be considered classic rock... Nirvana maybe... RHCP probably....Whight_Knight

Nirvana ... they'll be consider classic a good bit before 2040 I think.

I get the feeling they're very close to being classic now, if they're not already. 80s music is considered classic (rock at least) so I'd hazard a guess it'd be within the next generation.

Yeah , I'd give them another 10 years or so ..

sweet! Now if only we could perfect human cloning and then find Kurt's remains.... :P
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sweet! Now if only we could perfect human cloning and then find Kurt's remains.... :P
gorilazandgames

If only ... I wonder what he'd say about todays stuff.

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#94 EMOEVOLUTION
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No. They will not be. Classic Rock will always be from the 60'70's.
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#95 LJS9502_basic
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No. They will not be. Classic Rock will always be from the 60'70's.EMOEVOLUTION

Some cIassic rock stations play 80's now. CIassic merely means older music. As a genre it's worthless.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Boogie_J"]

[QUOTE="jachichorro"]I say MUSE will be considered a classic in the future. Who's with me?clash76-grunger

no, theyre terrible

Muse is not terrible.

You seemed to have made a typo. They are indeed terrible.

whats peoples gripe with Muse?

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Only if they consider The Who and Led Zeppelin as "Ancient Rock"
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I hope they become known as "those crappy bands that killed the emo label".
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#99 Video_Game_King
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[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]I thought that one of the requirements of being classic was that it had/has to be good.SolidSnake35
No, they just need a following of fans who refuse to accept modern music. >_>

I don't accept modern music (I like Tom Sawyer and just about anything FF6), but I can admit that FOB sucks. Hell, even the acronym FOB sucks. Sounds like an insult you use to describe a rich, preppie, trust fund billionare.