India as a perminate member of the UNSC.(UN security council)

One thing Obama announced was his support for India becoming a member of the UN security council (aka the guys with UN power).

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It has support from both parties, and makes since.

India being a rising super power (already nuclear), worlds largest democracy, and growing industry

So what your opinion on this.

I thought you meant the United Nations Space Command.Immortal--

This belong inthe video gaming forum bro.

When I read this I "lol'ed" because I knew what it actually meant, but I knew that this was also Gamespot OT and the Halo fanatics would flock to this topic.

Aren't all the G4 nations(India, Germany, Japan, Brazil) trying to be permanent members?

they should as the have like 1/6 of the worlds people

No, I'd have Germany become a permanent member before India. I don't believe India is important enough in the grand scheme of global politics to be considered for the spot.hokies1313

India has the worlds largest population (and growing)

An exploding economy, that will likely follow China's success wave.(in 20 years could be in top 3 economy)

And a growing military presence (already a nuclear power)

It outclas ses Germany in importance significantly.

Though to be fair Germany does deserve the spot France has.

No, I'd have Germany become a permanent member before India. I don't believe India is important enough in the grand scheme of global politics to be considered for the spot.hokies1313

[QUOTE="hokies1313"]No, I'd have Germany become a permanent member before India. I don't believe India is important enough in the grand scheme of global politics to be considered for the spot.wstfld

Yeah, I don't see why they should be ignored.

I would agree with India become in a member of the security council. They are one of the most powerful nations both economically and militarily and already have nuclear weapons. Germany, Brazil and Japan should have a seat as well.

[QUOTE="hokies1313"]No, I'd have Germany become a permanent member before India. I don't believe India is important enough in the grand scheme of global politics to be considered for the spot.dercoo

India has the worlds largest population (and growing)

An exploding economy, that will likely follow China's success wave.(in 20 years could be in top 3 economy)

And a growing military presence (already a nuclear power)

It outclas ses Germany in importance significantly.

Though to be fair Germany does deserve the spot France has.

Germany will never be there simply because the rest of Europe doesn't trust them.

Frankly, I think it's ridiculous that there's a certain group of cherry-picked countries that get to be on the Security Council while others are left in the dust.

I was surprised to hear Obama voice his support for India becoming a permanent member. Wouldn't this just **** off Pakistan? And aren't we kinda depending on Pakistan for support in Afghanistan?

I don't think ANY country deserves a permanent position in the security council, its a stupid idea that gives certain countries power over other countries. Besides India is alraedy in an ongoing conflict/friction with Pakistan, they shouldn't get a permenant seat.

Well, someone's gotta keep watch over the Indian Ocean. Hmmm. Indian Ocean. :lol:

I don't see how we can suddenly let India in when Brazil, Germany, and Japan have all been asking for a while too. I think Brazil is the best choice of the people who want to be on the SC... also, if India became a member, wouldn't it completely alienate Pakistan? Mythomniac

[QUOTE="Mythomniac"]I don't see how we can suddenly let India in when Brazil, Germany, and Japan have all been asking for a while too. I think Brazil is the best choice of the people who want to be on the SC... also, if India became a member, wouldn't it completely alienate Pakistan? krazy-blazer

I don't see how we can suddenly let India in when Brazil, Germany, and Japan have all been asking for a while too. I think Brazil is the best choice of the people who want to be on the SC... also, if India became a member, wouldn't it completely alienate Pakistan? Mythomniac

India is the worlds largest democracy and 4th largest economy (likely soon to be 3rd).

I think they deserve the spot more than those 3 nations.

Heck, they are in a better state than China was when they were added.

India isn't ready to be a permanent member of the Security Council.

To be a permanent member you have to a leader in at least 2 categories:

1. Largest arms traffickers only. Responsible for supplying arms to most of the world's hotspots leading to at least 10,000 deaths and woundings and untold suffering.

2. Biggest bullies ever. Threaten anyone and everyone either directly or indirectly. Use your economic and military might interchangeably to obtain favourable terms on a global scale for anything and everything you want.

3. Direct Action Testing. Yessir, arming everyone else's dirty little wars is insufficient. Sometimes you need direct feedback, unsullied by 3rd party intermediaries. Invade thy neighbour. Or at least some too bit island somewhere and test out those systems. There's no substitue for first hand experience.

4. Killing spree. Invading, threatening, trafficking arms: it is not enough that you have done it. You have to be consistent. We need to see a spree over at least a few decades.

5. Holier than thou. Easier said then done. You need to look directly in the camera and either deny it, or take claim for it with wild eyed conviction that it is/was the right thing to do. Balancing this self serving rhetoric whilst maintaining some semblance of moral superiority for your actions is key.

6. Selective do nothing. That's right. When it isn't in your interest, it obviously doesn't exist. Related to the point above, this is a tricky balance of remembering to justify the last time you actually did something as being right, while differentiating the current situation as being microscopically different and thereby justifying doing nothing this time. If the problem takes cares of itself through genocide, even better.

As you can see, India is not quite ready yet. I suggest they invade Ceylon...err Sri Lanka and re-monopolize that tea trade. Or at least get into some more serious clashes with Pakistan over some worthless mountain passes. And they definately need to step up their arms exports. Ok sure, they are getting better at importing arms from the current security council members, but I wanna see more Indian arms out there in the world's trouble spots.

In short, they need to get their direct or indirect body count up there before they deserve a shot at a seat.

I was surprised to hear Obama voice his support for India becoming a permanent member. Wouldn't this just **** off Pakistan? And aren't we kinda depending on Pakistan for support in Afghanistan?

Oleg_Huzwog

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I was surprised to hear Obama voice his support for India becoming a permanent member. Wouldn't this just **** off Pakistan? And aren't we kinda depending on Pakistan for support in Afghanistan?

l4dak47

they will probably take britain's seat soon

i would love to meet some Indian Spartan soldiers. too bad :(silverwind23

I lol'ed hard :lol:

they will probably take britain's seat soon

gamedude2020

Wouldn't France go first.