Influences deteriorate people

it seems like everyone surrounding me lives according to others. some people are very dependent of friends. they would never leave the comfort zone they have created with their friends. and everyone stays on facebook. wen i go out and eat all i hear from the surrounding tables is pointless drama people have between each other.

then others have tattoos and piercings for impressing others. only people that like to dance are those who want to impress others.u gotta be evil to be funny, there's no such thing as a good joke. all humor is dirty violent or singles people out. the purpose of impressing and entertaining others is for social acceptance.

all men and women i know are looking for an inimate relationship. its all from the common misperception that love can only be between two individuals. that happiness comes from another person giving it to another.

it'sinterestinghow people are all about friends and share a single belief. ppl expect u to act the same way. then they look at me and question me! im the one outside looking in not the other way around. i get questions like; whats wrong with you? why don't you get on facebook? why do u act this way and not that way? then im categorized as being crazy.

if people weren't influenced by others we wouldn't have war. with what army? it just wouldn't happen if people didn't depend on human ideology. we have created this world where we have to agree with someone else to be valid. if u don't agree with evolution than you have to be catholic. see what im saying. its never about individual ideas, its all about supporting someone else's idea. people support the idea they are influenced to agree with.

I agree
but i stilll like my friends

Do you have friends? Do you hang out with and do similar things with these friends? Do you dress in any way similarly to the people you hang out with?

It's kind of unavoidable. While I do tend to try to dress differently or go against the tide, I know deep down that there are going to be others that dress like me by reason of practicality. It's not that I'm a conformist, I just that fashion was never something I really cared about. I may think people that wear certain clothing are douchebags, but it really doesn't bother me all that much anymore. If they wanna wear a $30 fifty-cent hat around and look like an absolute tool, let them.

As for drama, if you want to be involved in anybody of the opposite sex (or the same sex), it's probably just going to be an entry hazard. Not all relationships are perfect or will last forever and thus people are going to talk about that with their friends and significant others. Drama can only be present when there is human conflicts of interest. Which are common and a part of a lot of people's lives. The times when people just kept their mouths shut and didn't talk about relationship issues is over. That doesn't work anymore. To improve your situation, communication is going to be a key to success. Whether or not that conversation is absolutely paramount isn't the point. The idea is simply to get another view on a topic of human discussion.

If people weren't influenced by others we'd still be roaming around grasslands picking up nuts and berries.

Unless you are willing and able to live entirely by yourself, its unrealistic to expect yourself to not be influence by other people. I think what is more important is to develop a sense of who you are, the ability to know a good influence from bad, and to decide what is a good influence to accept.

TC you might have overemphasis the prevalence of the bad influence in your live and underestimated the importance of the good influence, for the good influence is a valuable way to improve yourself as well

If people were not influenced by others, modern society as it were today would most likely not exsist for the worst, and I believe humans wouldn't have advanced as far as we have when it comes to technology or our understanding of the world and each other.

it seems like everyone surrounding me lives according to others. some people are very dependent of friends. they would never leave the comfort zone they have created with their friends. and everyone stays on facebook. wen i go out and eat all i hear from the surrounding tables is pointless drama people have between each other.

then others have tattoos and piercings for impressing others. only people that like to dance are those who want to impress others.u gotta be evil to be funny, there's no such thing as a good joke. all humor is dirty violent or singles people out. the purpose of impressing and entertaining others is for social acceptance.

all men and women i know are looking for an inimate relationship. its all from the common misperception that love can only be between two individuals. that happiness comes from another person giving it to another.

it'sinterestinghow people are all about friends and share a single belief. ppl expect u to act the same way. then they look at me and question me! im the one outside looking in not the other way around. i get questions like; whats wrong with you? why don't you get on facebook? why do u act this way and not that way? then im categorized as being crazy.

if people weren't influenced by others we wouldn't have war. with what army? it just wouldn't happen if people didn't depend on human ideology. we have created this world where we have to agree with someone else to be valid. if u don't agree with evolution than you have to be catholic. see what im saying. its never about individual ideas, its all about supporting someone else's idea. people support the idea they are influenced to agree with.

playmynutz

If people are giving you **** for being different, then what's it to you? I mean, it's not like you want to IMPRESS them or anything. You're certainly so open-minded and enlightened that you don't WANT to be held to normal standars of conformity among society. It's not as if you ultimately want to FIT IN as well.

In which case...what the hell do you care if people call you crazy? Are you dependant upon their approval? You're complaining about how they're treating you, but doesn't that sort of in a way invalidate your entire point about they're weak for basing their actions on social acceptance?

It's like...you could collect human skeletons or marry an inflatable Sailor Moon doll. If people notice you doing weird-ass stuff, and then you respond with some rant about how they're just weak-minded people looking to impress others, then that seems a bit hypocritical. If YOU weren't looking to impress others, then why would you care if if they form a negative opinion about you due to your behavior and beliefs?

Being influenced by others is what keeps society intact. If one was not influenced by others, there would be no companionship, no love, no cooperation, and no civilization. If you choose not to murder another because you don't want to hurt that person or his or her loved ones, then you have been influenced by that person. If you visit your spouse in the hospital because you want to make her happy, then you have been influenced by her. If you strive to produce a good product because you want customer satisfaction, then you have been influenced by all of them. If we were not influenced by others, we would be murderous, selfish savages. As with anything, there can be too much of a good thing, but to say that it's bad to be influenced by other people is absurd. There's a word for people who are literally not influenced by anyone else. That word is "sociopath".

Life would be incredibly boring and pointless without the influence of others.

it seems like everyone surrounding me lives according to others. some people are very dependent of friends. they would never leave the comfort zone they have created with their friends. and everyone stays on facebook. wen i go out and eat all i hear from the surrounding tables is pointless drama people have between each other.

then others have tattoos and piercings for impressing others. only people that like to dance are those who want to impress others.u gotta be evil to be funny, there's no such thing as a good joke. all humor is dirty violent or singles people out. the purpose of impressing and entertaining others is for social acceptance.

all men and women i know are looking for an inimate relationship. its all from the common misperception that love can only be between two individuals. that happiness comes from another person giving it to another.

it'sinterestinghow people are all about friends and share a single belief. ppl expect u to act the same way. then they look at me and question me! im the one outside looking in not the other way around. i get questions like; whats wrong with you? why don't you get on facebook? why do u act this way and not that way? then im categorized as being crazy.

if people weren't influenced by others we wouldn't have war. with what army? it just wouldn't happen if people didn't depend on human ideology. we have created this world where we have to agree with someone else to be valid. if u don't agree with evolution than you have to be catholic. see what im saying. its never about individual ideas, its all about supporting someone else's idea. people support the idea they are influenced to agree with.

playmynutz

Another thing, since my edit features aren't working...,

1) You talk about people leaving the comfort zone they've created with their friends. Well, they should leave their comfort zone in order to do WHAT, exactly? In order to be nonconformist? Did you ever consider that maybe people tend to form social groups that reinforce their own ideals? If your social interactions are working out for you, and then you go against that just to get out of your comfort zone (which could easily be interpretted as "just to be different", then isn't that just a real-life version of "trolling"? Heck, if interacting with those mindless sheep isn't workinbg out for you, then what's stopping YOU from stepping out of YOUR confort zone and trying to fit in with them?

2) "only people that like to dance are those who want to impress others".

You could say that about ANYTHING.

See...what you're doing here is that you're essentially claiming that they're all just faking their love of dancing in order to be accepted. But...WHY would dancing result in social acceptance if no one genuinely likes it? I mean, they might be stupid for liking it, but I think you first have to accept that they genuinely DO like it. The only reason why dancing DOES impress anyone is because people genuinely DO like it. If no one REALLY liked it, then doing it wouldn't impress people. The same way that most people aren't impressed when you poop in a urinal just for the fun of it.

3) And if people weren't influenced by others, then our species wouldn't exist. We are by nature social animals. Because it is DAMN hard for people to survive while being completely and utterly independent. People don't follow trends and try to fit in just for the hell of it. People are like that because it's a good ****ing idea. If you're going against the mainstream, and it's working so badly for you that you have to complain about other people not accepting your nonconformist ways, then at that point isn't it at least conceivable that YOU shoul be the one to adapt?

I was nonconformist too until everybody started doing it. Theokhoth

only people that like to dance are those who want to impress others.

playmynutz

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]I was nonconformist too until everybody started doing it. PannicAtack

Not everyone gets tattoos and piercings to impress. Some people make a hobby out of it almost, kind of like collecting.
Some people dance to have fun.
Your statement about humor makes no sense.

Saying all men and women you know are looking for an intimate relationship is a bit odd. Of course they are, whether it be physically, or emotionally intimate, thats usually what people desire.

I really doubt anyone genuinely thinks of you as crazy because you wont use facebook =V moreso they probably see you as stubborn if they bug you about it a lot.

You arent forced to have any beliefs.

People often support others ideas, not simply because they are following said person, but because their beliefs follow the same lines.
An example would be that I think kittens are ****ing adorable. Many people think this, its not because someone told us to do so, or that we saw someone else adore a kitten and so we decided we liked them, its just something that happens.