Interesting take...

Now, before you get started, I am a big fan of the metal genre. But some of the stuff I've listened to in the course of searching for other bands to listen to, has been less than appealing; apalling really. Slamming on Drums, Screaming into Mics, wailing away madly on the guitar.

But here is a good take on a Death Metal song. I find it hilarious, and almost good at the same time. if he made an entire album of metal spoof songs, I'd buy it. Just for the lulz.

What do you mean? Trying to get into a new genre eh?Napster06

No, much of it is.... terrible. I know that I'm arguing about opinion, but I know that a lot of people feel the same way I do about some metal.

LMFAO THAT IS AWESOME!!!

Good example as to why I stick to melodeath rather than full blown death....

[QUOTE="Napster06"]What do you mean? Trying to get into a new genre eh?blooddemon666

No, much of it is.... terrible. I know that I'm arguing about opinion, but I know that a lot of people feel the same way I do about some metal.

True, only older metal bands seem to be more 'civilised'

True, only older metal bands seem to be more 'civilised'

Napster06

Not really, there's a lot of "civilised" metal that is being made today. its just this "extreme metal" that I'm bringing up. Its absolutely terrible, people call that stuff music?

[QUOTE="blooddemon666"]

[QUOTE="Napster06"]What do you mean? Trying to get into a new genre eh?Napster06

No, much of it is.... terrible. I know that I'm arguing about opinion, but I know that a lot of people feel the same way I do about some metal.

True, only older metal bands seem to be more 'civilised'

Not true, even melodeath can be civilized. Listen to Nightrage for example. It is hard to understand what they are saying, so heres the lyrics.

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True, only older metal bands seem to be more 'civilised'

blooddemon666

Not really, there's a lot of "civilised" metal that is being made today. its just this "extreme metal" that I'm bringing up. Its absolutely terrible, people call that stuff music?

I try to avoid extreme metal at all cost. Its like the prehistoric ages. People just bang and hit things

[QUOTE="Napster06"]

True, only older metal bands seem to be more 'civilised'

blooddemon666

Not really, there's a lot of "civilised" metal that is being made today. its just this "extreme metal" that I'm bringing up. Its absolutely terrible, people call that stuff music?

Hey remember Opeth is extreme metal. At least with Opeth when there is mention of murder it is for story purpose as their cd's tell a story throughout the cd.

and a good example of "Cookie Monster Vocals"blooddemon666

lol! nice post! thanks for the share!

[QUOTE="blooddemon666"][QUOTE="Napster06"]

True, only older metal bands seem to be more 'civilised'

Napster06

Not really, there's a lot of "civilised" metal that is being made today. its just this "extreme metal" that I'm bringing up. Its absolutely terrible, people call that stuff music?

I try to avoid extreme metal at all cost. Its like the prehistoric ages. People just bang and hit things

You need to listen to some Opeth. Only extreme metal I like, but boy do I LOVE Opeth. Listen to the song all the way through. You will be amazed at how thought out and well-written their music is. They are like a cross between extreme metal and ****cal music with the best of both worlds. Only band I listen to that has actual movements in their music, something which is almost exclusive to ****cal music.

Some extreme metal is good... Cerussite

some.

But as the rule states "90% of everything is crap"

It's unbelievable those are lyrics! It's as if some sick shocksite has been morphed into song lyrics.Salvy41

Tis why Cannibal Corpse has always been more of a punchline than a band.

Hey remember Opeth is extreme metal. At least with Opeth when there is mention of murder it is for story purpose as their cd's tell a story throughout the cd.

Thechaninator

I guess Opeth is at the extremely shallow end (more toward a progressive sound) of the puddle that is Extreme Metal.

One would have to have a more rigorous definition of extreme metal. I see thesebands as extrememetal. but thesebands aren't

what is porcupine tree? i enjoy them quite a bitinyourface_12

prog rock/metal I'd say. depends on which album you're listening to.

[QUOTE="inyourface_12"]what is porcupine tree? i enjoy them quite a bitblooddemon666

prog rock/metal I'd say. depends on which album you're listening to.

ehh/ way too many genres i prefer to just say, rock and metal lol

It's a funny take on that. I actually would prefer to listen to his version than a Death Metal version. Usually I can find something I like in every genre I've heard of (everything from mainstream Rock to 19th century Polka), with the exception being hard Metal. Metal is a genre that, unlike genres such as Jazz or Impressionism (defined by improvisation or atmosphere), is defined by dynamic, rather than other elements of composition, such as melody, rhythm or depiction of atmosphere. This dynamic being very loud, intense, and quite frankly, constant. Compositions with a constant dynamic can get boring quickly, but a whole genre? That idea has always seemed absurd to me.Agustin_Barrios

I've noticed that too. It seems like a lot of metal bands find one or two guitar riffs and base an entire song off that (I'm looking at you Trivium:x) That's not entirely bad but it does draw away from the music.

Then again, as I've stated before in this thread "90% of anything is crap"

It's a funny take on that. I actually would prefer to listen to his version than a Death Metal version. Usually I can find something I like in every genre I've heard of (everything from mainstream Rock to 19th century Polka), with the exception being hard Metal. Metal is a genre that, unlike genres such as Jazz or Impressionism (defined by improvisation or atmosphere), is defined by dynamic, rather than other elements of composition, such as melody, rhythm or depiction of atmosphere. This dynamic being very loud, intense, and quite frankly, constant. Compositions with a constant dynamic can get boring quickly, but a whole genre? That idea has always seemed absurd to me.Agustin_Barrios

Of course, bash and ridicule what you do not understand. Choga

Please enlighten me as to what there is to "understand" about extreme metal. I'm very curious.

[QUOTE="Agustin_Barrios"]It's a funny take on that. I actually would prefer to listen to his version than a Death Metal version. Usually I can find something I like in every genre I've heard of (everything from mainstream Rock to 19th century Polka), with the exception being hard Metal. Metal is a genre that, unlike genres such as Jazz or Impressionism (defined by improvisation or atmosphere), is defined by dynamic, rather than other elements of composition, such as melody, rhythm or depiction of atmosphere. This dynamic being very loud, intense, and quite frankly, constant. Compositions with a constant dynamic can get boring quickly, but a whole genre? That idea has always seemed absurd to me.Cerussite

Not exactly. Philosophically, metal and rock are very different.

[QUOTE="Cerussite"][QUOTE="Agustin_Barrios"]It's a funny take on that. I actually would prefer to listen to his version than a Death Metal version. Usually I can find something I like in every genre I've heard of (everything from mainstream Rock to 19th century Polka), with the exception being hard Metal. Metal is a genre that, unlike genres such as Jazz or Impressionism (defined by improvisation or atmosphere), is defined by dynamic, rather than other elements of composition, such as melody, rhythm or depiction of atmosphere. This dynamic being very loud, intense, and quite frankly, constant. Compositions with a constant dynamic can get boring quickly, but a whole genre? That idea has always seemed absurd to me.Choga

Not exactly. Philosophically, metal and rock are very different.

[QUOTE="Choga"]Of course, bash and ridicule what you do not understand. blooddemon666

Please enlighten me as to what there is to "understand" about extreme metal. I'm very curious.

@blooddemon666: I will admit there is some Metal which I could probably acquire a taste to. Maybe a select few songs by Buckethead.

@Cerussite: I say what I say because I personally believe if there were a musician who mainly played very sensitive material, with clean guitar sound,
no matter how similar his technique is to a Metal musician, he wouldn't be considered Metal.

Well Cannibal Corpse is not a good example at all...they are just generic imitation death metal. I agree that most of metal is crap, but death metal has a distinct philosophy. It is very morbid because people in modern western society think they will never die, and death is viewed as a taboo. Death metal is very indo-european in the sense that it values adventure, and the embrace of life as a whole (the good and bad), as opposed to the Judeo-Christian demonization of death and such.Choga

That's a nice philosophical view on death metal (which actually got its name from the "first band" of its kind, the aptly named Death.)

But that still doesn't excuse them from taking time and making their compositions more than slamming, wailing, and screaming.

@Cerussite: I say what I say because I personally believe if there were a musician who mainly played very sensitive material, with clean guitar sound,
no matter how similar his technique is to a Metal musician, he wouldn't be considered Metal.

Agustin_Barrios

[QUOTE="Choga"]
Well Cannibal Corpse is not a good example at all...they are just generic imitation death metal. I agree that most of metal is crap, but death metal has a distinct philosophy. It is very morbid because people in modern western society think they will never die, and death is viewed as a taboo. Death metal is very indo-european in the sense that it values adventure, and the embrace of life as a whole (the good and bad), as opposed to the Judeo-Christian demonization of death and such.blooddemon666

That's a nice philosophical view on death metal (which actually got its name from the "first band" of its kind, the aptly named Death.)

But that still doesn't excuse them from taking time and making their compositions more than slamming, wailing, and screaming.

Death is nothing more than an over-hyped, above-average band. I am talking about the likes of Immolation, Morbid Angel, Suffocation, Incantation, Morpheus (Descends), etc.

And it is common for people to judge metal by its aesthetics rather than the content. The "slamming, wailing, and screaming." are a part of the morbid atmosphere.

Death is nothing more than an over-hyped, above-average band. I am talking about the likes of Immolation, Morbid Angel, Suffocation, Incantation, Morpheus (Descends), etc.

And it is common for people to judge metal by its aesthetics rather than the content. The "slamming, wailing, and screaming." are a part of the morbid atmosphere.

Choga

A more morbid atmosphere, one would think, is a song like this

A more mellow atmosphere with powerful lyrics, a beautiful transition between sections.

This conveys more, anger, and hostility, not morbid

[QUOTE="Choga"]

Death is nothing more than an over-hyped, above-average band. I am talking about the likes of Immolation, Morbid Angel, Suffocation, Incantation, Morpheus (Descends), etc.

And it is common for people to judge metal by its aesthetics rather than the content. The "slamming, wailing, and screaming." are a part of the morbid atmosphere.

blooddemon666

A more morbid atmosphere, one would think, is a song like this

A more mellow atmosphere with powerful lyrics, a beautiful transition between sections.

This conveys more, anger, and hostility, not morbid

I wouldn't call Opeth morbid. They are more bleak than anything. They are also very mainstream, so their music is made to appeal to a larger audience.

This would be a good example of morbid. Intense blast beats, and you get the feeling that somebody is being mutilated, that death is somewhere close by.

I wouldn't call Opeth morbid. They are more bleak than anything. They are also very mainstream, so their music is made to appeal to a larger audience.

This would be a good example of morbid. Intense blast beats, and you get the feeling that somebody is being mutilated, that death is somewhere close by.

Choga

This Idea that because something is "mainstream," it is terrible, is quite annoying. Did you ever think, for one second, that they got popular because they were good? Opeth has changed their sound. I understand. But they have always had a progressive side to themselves, and they really let that show in the last few albums. They didn't change their sound so that they could attract more listeners, they changed because the members felt that that was the natural progression of the band.

I listened to it. Can't say I liked it. The vocals were atrocious. And anyone who wants to listen to the sound of "sombody [getting] mutilated" isn't someone I'd like to hang out with.

99% of anything that is mainstream is terrible, because it is made to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Now lets get this straight, mainstream != popular. You can be a popular band, and not be mainstream (Obituary).

It's fine if you don't like the music; I was just trying to explain its purpose.

[QUOTE="blooddemon666"][QUOTE="Choga"]

Death is nothing more than an over-hyped, above-average band. I am talking about the likes of Immolation, Morbid Angel, Suffocation, Incantation, Morpheus (Descends), etc.

And it is common for people to judge metal by its aesthetics rather than the content. The "slamming, wailing, and screaming." are a part of the morbid atmosphere.

Choga

A more morbid atmosphere, one would think, is a song like this

A more mellow atmosphere with powerful lyrics, a beautiful transition between sections.

This conveys more, anger, and hostility, not morbid

I wouldn't call Opeth morbid. They are more bleak than anything. They are also very mainstream, so their music is made to appeal to a larger audience.

This would be a good example of morbid. Intense blast beats, and you get the feeling that somebody is being mutilated, that death is somewhere close by.

I never heard of Opeth until I read some recommendations of them on this forum. How is that mainstream! I bet I could talk to everybody I know that listens to music and they will have no clue who they were. Maybe a couple who are really in to metal/rock but thats it. Mainstream is radio stars!

Look for music by Richard Cheese. He takes popular songs and puts a lounge music sound to them.Big_Bad_Sad

LMAO I remember laughing so hard when this song came on during Dawn of the Dead.

Good heavy music:

Tool, of course, but if you want something heavier, listen to Meshuggah. Brilliant musicians, and as you can see on the clip, they don't take themselves too serious. Or why not Dillinger Escape Plan? Refused? None of these bands can be labeled metal, though.

But when my revolution comes, labeling music will be forbidden.