Intersectional Feminism: The Implosion of the 3rd Wave Feminist group

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#1  Edited By FireEmblem_Man
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Christina Hoff Summers, the Factual Feminist, is back with a new video discussing the origins of Internationalist and the dangers of how it can cause an implosion with the feminist movement in college campuses.

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#2 FireEmblem_Man
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No love for Christina Hoff Sommers? I guess her Videos do trigger a lot :P

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#3  Edited By iandizion713
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@FireEmblem_Man: So let me get this straight, i dont have to be male or female? I can be neither?

So basically, theyre saying Feminism doesnt work and they need Equalism. Thats what people been trying to tell them for ages.

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#4 judaspete
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Interesting video. I like how she doesn't attack intersectional feminism for being wrong necessarily, just points out the problems and divisions it tends to create within feminist groups.

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#5  Edited By foxhound_fox
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The part on "Victim Creep" pretty much sums up the entire victimization movement on the internet and in millennial society today.

Looking back on the last 6 years of my life since deciding to move away from becoming a university professor, and seeing where campus politics is/has heading/headed I am extremely grateful I made that decision... as a cisgendered white male especially.

I couldn't imagine myself putting up with the politics of NORMAL post-graduate work (I was told I would not be doing my own research until I got tenure, and would be working on whatever professor I was under's research) and now with this professional victim movement? I doubt I could handle teaching classes without being reprimanded for saying something someone found "offensive". And I was going into religious studies no less, an already sensitive topic for many.

Anyways, I'm quite glad I settled into a male-dominated field of work (truck driving) and don't have to deal with this bullshit drama on a professional level.

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#7 FireEmblem_Man
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@iandizion713: Looking at your sig, you seem to struggle understanding the point of the video and you aren't making any progress in contributing to the discussion! Why the fuq do you get the idea of the video discussing what sex you are?

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#8 FireEmblem_Man
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@magicalclick: Ummm what you're discussing is way off...

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#9  Edited By iandizion713
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@FireEmblem_Man: I thought they were talking the reason feminism is failing is cause people have their own identities. They want to break down these identities and unite them under one cause. They are struggling to get support. People are looking to support something more universal in todays world. Like Equalism. I think we will see the rise of Equalism and the fall of other social identities.

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@foxhound_fox said:

(truck driving)

thats basicly all I got from this topic ...

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#11 N64DD
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I didn't even watch the video and I can already tell it's worthless.

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I didn't even watch the video and I can already tell it's worthless.

You must not be familiar with the Factual Feminist.

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#13 N64DD
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@foxhound_fox said:
@n64dd said:

I didn't even watch the video and I can already tell it's worthless.

You must not be familiar with the Factual Feminist.

Thank god!

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@n64dd said:

Thank god!

If you were familiar you'd understand that she talks about the pitfalls of modern "feminism" and criticizes the movement for being, literally, anti-feminist, and anti-equality.

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#15 FireEmblem_Man
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@n64dd: She's a feminist with logic! And is always attacked by 3rd wave feminist and sjw's

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#16  Edited By N64DD
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@foxhound_fox said:
@n64dd said:

Thank god!

If you were familiar you'd understand that she talks about the pitfalls of modern "feminism" and criticizes the movement for being, literally, anti-feminist, and anti-equality.

Who?

@FireEmblem_Man no such thing as a feminist with logic.

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#17 foxhound_fox
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@n64dd said:

Who?

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#18 FireEmblem_Man
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@omotih: @iandizion713: Basically I'm getting the both of you are triggered because you cannot handle true logic? Mangina alert!

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@n64dd: Try watching it before you run your mouth.

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@FireEmblem_Man said:

@omotih: @iandizion713: Basically I'm getting the both of you are triggered because you cannot handle true logic? Mangina alert!

Are you 13?

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#21 FireEmblem_Man
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@n64dd: Maybe if you watch the video, you will become a believer?

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@FireEmblem_Man said:

@n64dd: Maybe if you watch the video, you will become a believer?

Nah. Life isn't one big liberal arts campus.

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#23 omotih
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@n64dd said:

I didn't even watch the video and I can already tell it's worthless.

I watched it, wow, it is useless ... look at that white male slave Girl in this Video ... like I said the u s is already an fascistic nationalistic society like nazi germany was, males are soldiers women are mothers, americans are gods all other nations are weak and disposable ...

the best part is she is only doing this for Money, or do you think she believes this bull crap, she hates women as much as the White males she admires like a father ... because she was told shes worthless her whole life long, so now she trys to get the attention of male (dads) by telling all other women how worthless they are too ...

thats really it, a victim telling victims to stop feeling like victims, so itself can feel like its no longer a victim but belongs to the group that victimized her ... you kick people in the mud and then you hate them for being muddy ...

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#24 N64DD
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@omotih said:
@n64dd said:

I didn't even watch the video and I can already tell it's worthless.

I watched it, wow, it is useless ... look at that white male slave Girl in this Video ... like I said the u s is already an fascistic nationalistic society like nazi germany was, males are soldiers women are mothers, americans are gods all other nations are weak and disposable ...

the best part is she is only doing this for Money, or do you think she believes this bull crap, she hates women as much as the White males she admires like a father ... because she was told shes worthless her whole life long, so now she trys to get the attention of male (dads) by telling all other women how worthless they are too ...

thats really it, a victim telling victims to stop feeling like victims, so itself can feel like its no longer a victim but belongs to the group that victimized her ... you kick people in the mud and then you hate them for being muddy ...

lol USA is like Nazi Germany? Somebody doesn't know history AT ALL.

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@omotih: How stupid do you sound? You didn't even watch the video at all and make up false assumptions! Cry more when you try to find a real job after college kid!

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#26  Edited By omotih
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we are talking about the present sweety

didnt knew how bad it really is unless I saw this Video ... its not like I am paying attention to most of the sh .it going down inide the Matrix

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#27 N64DD
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@omotih said:

we are talking about the present sweety

You lost everybody when you said the USA is like NAZI Germany.

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#28  Edited By omotih
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@FireEmblem_Man said:

@omotih: How stupid do you sound? You didn't even watch the video at all and make up false assumptions! Cry more when you try to find a real job after college kid!

ask me anything about this Video, you seem confused about what its really saying ...

it only sais, stop blaming the big white male, he is like god

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#29 omotih
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@n64dd said:
@omotih said:

we are talking about the present sweety

You lost everybody when you said the USA is like NAZI Germany.

whom ? russia is also like nazi germany, as well as whole europe is or ... the Kongo ... reality sucks, I told you

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#30  Edited By N64DD
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@omotih said:
@n64dd said:
@omotih said:

we are talking about the present sweety

You lost everybody when you said the USA is like NAZI Germany.

whom ? russia is also like nazi germany, as well as whole europe is or ... the Kongo ... reality sucks, I told you

I had family members die in the holocaust and have holocaust survivors. Whenever anything is bad or extreme in anyway you people compare it to Nazi Germany when they are nothing alike.

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#31  Edited By omotih
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the cool thing is, I am a dominant white male, so I can say and believe what ever I want, isnt that great ?

my grandpa was in the SS, so I know what I am talking about ...

blame me

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@omotih said:

the cool thing is, I am a dominant white male, so I can say and believe what ever I want, isnt that great ?

my grandpa was in the SS, so I know what I am talking about ...

blame me

lol grow up.

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@n64dd said:
@omotih said:

the cool thing is, I am a dominant white male, so I can say and believe what ever I want, isnt that great ?

my grandpa was in the SS, so I know what I am talking about ...

blame me

lol grow up.

just **** you

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@omotih said:
@n64dd said:
@omotih said:

the cool thing is, I am a dominant white male, so I can say and believe what ever I want, isnt that great ?

my grandpa was in the SS, so I know what I am talking about ...

blame me

lol grow up.

just **** you

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@foxhound_fox said:

The part on "Victim Creep" pretty much sums up the entire victimization movement on the internet and in millennial society today.

Looking back on the last 6 years of my life since deciding to move away from becoming a university professor, and seeing where campus politics is/has heading/headed I am extremely grateful I made that decision... as a cisgendered white male especially.

I couldn't imagine myself putting up with the politics of NORMAL post-graduate work (I was told I would not be doing my own research until I got tenure, and would be working on whatever professor I was under's research) and now with this professional victim movement? I doubt I could handle teaching classes without being reprimanded for saying something someone found "offensive". And I was going into religious studies no less, an already sensitive topic for many.

Anyways, I'm quite glad I settled into a male-dominated field of work (truck driving) and don't have to deal with this bullshit drama on a professional level.

What truck you drive?

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#36  Edited By foxhound_fox
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What truck you drive?

A 2004 Peterbilt 379 RH with a 2002 500hp CAT C-15 MBN single-turbo motor and Eaton Fuller 13-speed transmission.

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#37  Edited By mrbojangles25
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@n64dd said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:

@n64dd: Maybe if you watch the video, you will become a believer?

Nah. Life isn't one big liberal arts campus.

I don't think I've ever seen a better example of ignorance lol.

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@foxhound_fox: How much do you get paid, and also do you carry a shotgun?

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@foxhound_fox: How much do you get paid, and also do you carry a shotgun?

I get paid hourly, since I'm a regional/city driver. And no, I don't carry any firearms. Not only is this Canada, but I have no need to defend myself like I would if I drove in the US (violent muggings at truck stops are unfortunately common down there).

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#40 omotih
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talentless uneducated crap.haulers, backbone of our economy ... keep on trucking, you deserve no better

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#41 foxhound_fox
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@omotih said:

talentless uneducated crap.haulers, backbone of our economy ... keep on trucking, you deserve no better

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#42 mark1974
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@foxhound_fox: Nothing wrong with being a truck driver. All work is noble as they say. It's good that you are regional. That long haul over the road stuff seems brutal. I don't think I could do it. I work in heavy industry so I talk to truck drivers from time to time, hear some pretty crazy stories.

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@foxhound_fox said:
@themajormayor said:

What truck you drive?

A 2004 Peterbilt 379 RH with a 2002 500hp CAT C-15 MBN single-turbo motor and Eaton Fuller 13-speed transmission.

That's a cool truck man!

I'm a huge fan of truck simulators....dunno if you play them or not :D

Anyways, glad that you're enjoying your job.

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@omotih said:

talentless uneducated crap.haulers, backbone of our economy ... keep on trucking, you deserve no better

Since when ppl are defined by their job? How do you know if they deserve sth or not?

Srsly grow up.

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@omotih said:

talentless uneducated crap.haulers, backbone of our economy ... keep on trucking, you deserve no better

And what's your job? I doubt you'll get one after college! Life isn't a liberal arts college!

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@mjorh said:

That's a cool truck man!

I'm a huge fan of truck simulators....dunno if you play them or not :D

Anyways, glad that you're enjoying your job.

Haha, I do (mostly did) play a lot of ETS2 before getting into trucking. It certainly wasn't the inspiration (that I think came from early childhood as a subconscious motivation and playing with toy trucks plus the huge desire for me to learn how to drive anything and everything) but it contributed to it.

I can tell you though, ETS2 isn't very accurate to the real thing (it's like Gran Turismo or Forza Motorsport are to racing... accurate enough to give you a sense, but not a true "simulation"). There is a lot more to controlling the truck than just pushing the accelerator and brake when appropriate. It's about reading traffic and predicting what they'll do before they do it. It's about controlling your speed while decelerating to the point where you don't stop at a red light and can roll through when it goes green (it's a huge benefit to fuel economy not having to start out from first gear every time you stop).

On top of that, there is a WHOLE lot more work done outside the truck when you aren't driving it. Pre-trip inspections, load securement (for us flat bed drivers) and paperwork, paperwork, paperwork. Tons of things to consider while driving that most people don't even begin to fathom when they cut us off to make an exit instead of just slowing down, passing in behind and taking their exit normally.

And I LOVE my job. I hated running OTR (sleeping in the truck for 5-6 days a week) but got lucky last October and landed a regional position at the same company (I'm home every night and often do more physical work than driving in a day). It's one of those things I can see myself doing for the rest of my life and not having a care in the world about anything else (career-wise I mean). And in the end, it's truly why I'll always say to people they should work a job they are passionate about. Absolutely GUNG-HO about that they wake up in the morning, eager to start the day... and like me, get kind of needy on weekends to get back to work a little quicker on Monday. I couldn't imagine sitting at a desk. It just doesn't appeal to me at all.

I'm working on trying to get some video equipment together (like a GoPro or something) to film the drives I have. But here is an image of what, to me, is the best view in the whole world:

The only thing that could make it better is if I were driving a 379 EXHD with a 550hp 6NZ CAT C-15 with straight pipes. The Jake brakes on my truck are LOUD. The Jakes on something like that would be sensational.

@mark1974 said:

@foxhound_fox: Nothing wrong with being a truck driver. All work is noble as they say. It's good that you are regional. That long haul over the road stuff seems brutal. I don't think I could do it. I work in heavy industry so I talk to truck drivers from time to time, hear some pretty crazy stories.

Very few people in this world really appreciate what the trucking industry does for society. Without trucks running like they do, hospitals would shut down within a couple days. Grocery stores and gas stations in a week. Everything else within two weeks. Trucks feed the economy and keep it stocked with things to buy and make our lives better. Before I got into the industry, I had NO IDEA what it took to really be a driver on this level, and I worship the ground OTR drivers walk on (when they aren't driving). It takes a very special kind of person to do that work and it often means almost (realistically: essentially) no social life/family life.

Hell, most rural communities (at least here in Canada) would have to shut down their major industries within a few days if trucks stopped picking up the goods they shipped out. I visited pretty much every lumber mill in Northern Alberta and Saskatchewan in my time on the highway, and they pump out lumber at these places like no tomorrow. If you don't work at the school or retail businesses in these communities, you work at the lumber mill, and your entire existence depends on production and distribution. Trucks stop coming? Your life is over. There is no other work.

Anyways, I've definitely derailed this thread enough. Back to FEMINISM!

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@omotih said:

talentless uneducated crap.haulers, backbone of our economy ... keep on trucking, you deserve no better

What is your livelihood?

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#48 mjorh
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@foxhound_fox: Wow!

That's an interesting field of work and i'm so happy for you.

THAT picture! i love driving in a snowy setting :D

Actually, i didn't play that much ETS2 since i prefer American trucks (like the one you have :D) (played the hell outta games like 18 Wheels series) hence i'm gonna get the latest Installment in the series, American Truck Simulator! It has got pretty good reviews and will get updates just like ETS2, which SCS supported it so well.

Anyways, i wish you get the new desired truck and keep rocking!

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@foxhound_fox: How many women in Canada do you know that are truck drivers? Or how many women are in the field of logistics you know? I'm curious to know.

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@SOedipus said:
@omotih said:

talentless uneducated crap.haulers, backbone of our economy ... keep on trucking, you deserve no better

What is your livelihood?

its called Senior/Lead Artist/Designer, at least I am not sitting in a street begging for Money or hm, talk shit on the Internet to earn my catfood