[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"] I mean by all-loving, as in to love all of his creation (which he created directly), and therefore negating the possibility of him hating any one person. You dodge the question; What is love?
[QUOTE="D_Battery"][QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"] Nah, I'll think I'll elaborate on my point. As soon as you say God exists outside of logic, you effectively terminate any theological discussion, or rather philosophical discussion regarding God. For example: Debater A: God punished group X because he hates them. Debater B: But that's impossible, God is omnibenevolent. Debater A: But God transcends logic, so he can be both omnibenevolent and non-omnibenevolent simultaneously. You see where I'm going with this?xaos
I've never really understood this line of reasoning; If logic doesn't matter, how can you attribute anything to God then? If we say God is above logic, then I could say "God is not God" and you'd have no way of arguing against me. Wasn't that exactly his point? Lol, I swear that I written my other post before reading this.:lol:
[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"] I mean by all-loving, as in to love all of his creation (which he created directly), and therefore negating the possibility of him hating any one person.Vandalvideo
You dodge the question; What is love? Well agapaic love is defined as being an intense felling of care and affection to another person.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]The rest of the world doesn't follow the Hindu religion though....LJS9502_basic
You're trying to make the argument that everyone know what is "right" and what is "wrong." If everyone know what is "right" and "wrong," why do you have people who genuinely think it's okay to slaughter a cow and people who genuinely think it's wrong?
You know why Hindu's revere cows...don't you?
Yes, but I don't see why it's relevant. The point is that objective morality doesn't exist. Let me ask you if you think it's always wrong to lie?
You're trying to make the argument that everyone know what is "right" and what is "wrong." If everyone know what is "right" and "wrong," why do you have people who genuinely think it's okay to slaughter a cow and people who genuinely think it's wrong?
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You know why Hindu's revere cows...don't you?
Yes, but I don't see why it's relevant. The point is that objective morality doesn't exist. Let me ask you if you think it's alwayswrong to lie?
Of course it's relevant. It's part of their belief system.:|
[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"] Well agapaic love is defined as being an intense felling of care and affection to another person. And how do you know agapaic love is real love, and not merely human fault?
[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"] Well agapaic love is defined as being an intense felling of care and affection to another person.Vandalvideo
And how do you know agapaic love is real love, and not merely human fault? I'm not reading you; how can God having feelings of intense care and affection towards humans be an example of human fault?
[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"] I'm not reading you; how can God having feelings of intense care and affection towards humans be an example of human fault? Perhaps it is a human fault to ascribe care and affection as love.
[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"] I'm not reading you; how can God having feelings of intense care and affection towards humans be an example of human fault?Vandalvideo
Perhaps it is a human fault to ascribe care and affection as love. But that is what love is defined as... if you want we could have a discussion about the futility of ascribing man-made words to a 'perfect' entity. NB: Sorry, have to go now anyway...
[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"] But that is what love is defined as... if you want we could have a discussion about the futility of ascribing man-made words to a 'perfect' entity. NB: Sorry, have to go now anyway... That is what the modern english vernacular defines love as. Remember, these words, since their ancient Greek days, have been translated and re-translated time and time again. The word love we use now may merely be a mistranslation or a misapplication.
[QUOTE="aransom"]This is pretty much what my faith teaches, that we accept the bad in earthly life because earthly life is just a step to something better.
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"] I mean by all-loving, as in to love all of his creation (which he created directly), and therefore negating the possibility of him hating any one person. You dodge the question; What is love? I am appalled by the lack of Haddaway in response to your simple query
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